https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/bbc-one-hd-regional-roll-out-timeline

They are doing internet and cable platforms first because they are
easier, and leaving Freesat and Freeview until the end of 2022.

I wonder if it will happen on schedule. ITV did it ages ago. BBC One are
lagging badly behind: it's a shame that they couldn't even transmit
regional BBC One *SD* in the BBC One HD slot which would have allowed a
TV that was tuned to BBC One HD to show the local news *even if it were
in SD*.

On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:11:29 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/bbc-one-hd-regional-roll-out-timeline
>
>They are doing internet and cable platforms first because they are
>easier, and leaving Freesat and Freeview until the end of 2022.
>
>I wonder if it will happen on schedule. ITV did it ages ago. BBC One are
>lagging badly behind: it's a shame that they couldn't even transmit
>regional BBC One *SD* in the BBC One HD slot which would have allowed a
>TV that was tuned to BBC One HD to show the local news *even if it were
>in SD*.

Perhaps they've spent all their money on expensive presenters and
executives and have none left to spend on engineering expertise?

Rod.

In article <tkjtsghcdrnjurti3ml9c62e5ff6md3v6i@4ax.com>,
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> Perhaps they've spent all their money on expensive presenters and
> executives and have none left to spend on engineering expertise?

Yes indeed and don't forget that diversity woman on £250K for a 3 day
week. Exactly the same cancerous nonsense that drains the NHS.

With behaviour like that the BBC don't deserve respect or the telly
tax.

Bob.

In article <tkjtsghcdrnjurti3ml9c62e5ff6md3v6i@4ax.com>,
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:11:29 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> >https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/bbc-one-hd-regional-roll-out-timeline
> >
> >They are doing internet and cable platforms first because they are
> >easier, and leaving Freesat and Freeview until the end of 2022.
> >
> >I wonder if it will happen on schedule. ITV did it ages ago. BBC One are
> >lagging badly behind: it's a shame that they couldn't even transmit
> >regional BBC One *SD* in the BBC One HD slot which would have allowed a
> >TV that was tuned to BBC One HD to show the local news *even if it were
> >in SD*.

> Perhaps they've spent all their money on expensive presenters and
> executives and have none left to spend on engineering expertise?

> Rod.

Do remember that the BBC shut down its Enginering Directorate in the early
'90s. Engineering Information became part of "Libraries". (Well, it had
'information' in its name). Ad, ten transmitters were sold off.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 09:36:35 +0000, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:11:29 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/bbc-one-hd-regional-roll-out-timeline
>>
>>They are doing internet and cable platforms first because they are
>>easier, and leaving Freesat and Freeview until the end of 2022.
>>
>>I wonder if it will happen on schedule. ITV did it ages ago. BBC One are
>>lagging badly behind: it's a shame that they couldn't even transmit
>>regional BBC One *SD* in the BBC One HD slot which would have allowed a
>>TV that was tuned to BBC One HD to show the local news *even if it were
>>in SD*.
>
>Perhaps they've spent all their money on expensive presenters and
>executives and have none left to spend on engineering expertise?

Over Xmas BBC TV has turned into a classic film channel.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:16:18 +0000 (GMT), charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
wrote:

>In article <tkjtsghcdrnjurti3ml9c62e5ff6md3v6i@4ax.com>,
> Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:11:29 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> >https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/bbc-one-hd-regional-roll-out-timeline
>> >
>> >They are doing internet and cable platforms first because they are
>> >easier, and leaving Freesat and Freeview until the end of 2022.
>> >
>> >I wonder if it will happen on schedule. ITV did it ages ago. BBC One are
>> >lagging badly behind: it's a shame that they couldn't even transmit
>> >regional BBC One *SD* in the BBC One HD slot which would have allowed a
>> >TV that was tuned to BBC One HD to show the local news *even if it were
>> >in SD*.
>
>> Perhaps they've spent all their money on expensive presenters and
>> executives and have none left to spend on engineering expertise?
>
>> Rod.
>
>Do remember that the BBC shut down its Enginering Directorate in the early
>'90s. Engineering Information became part of "Libraries". (Well, it had
>'information' in its name). Ad, ten transmitters were sold off.

Does the BBC have both a Personnel Department and a Human Resources Department
like my former employer had?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

In article <qlstsg5908haq5smgtq9peu3at3rvi69ve@4ax.com>, Martin
<me@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:16:18 +0000 (GMT), charles
> <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> >In article <tkjtsghcdrnjurti3ml9c62e5ff6md3v6i@4ax.com>, Roderick
> > Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:11:29 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/bbc-one-hd-regional-roll-out-timeline
> >> >
> >> >They are doing internet and cable platforms first because they are
> >> >easier, and leaving Freesat and Freeview until the end of 2022.
> >> >
> >> >I wonder if it will happen on schedule. ITV did it ages ago. BBC One
> >> >are lagging badly behind: it's a shame that they couldn't even
> >> >transmit regional BBC One *SD* in the BBC One HD slot which would
> >> >have allowed a TV that was tuned to BBC One HD to show the local
> >> >news *even if it were in SD*.
> >
> >> Perhaps they've spent all their money on expensive presenters and
> >> executives and have none left to spend on engineering expertise?
> >
> >> Rod.
> >
> >Do remember that the BBC shut down its Enginering Directorate in the
> >early '90s. Engineering Information became part of "Libraries". (Well,
> >it had 'information' in its name). Ad, the transmitters were sold off.

> Does the BBC have both a Personnel Department and a Human Resources
> Department like my former employer had?

It still had a Personnel Department when I left.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

I was going to say they made a big mistake when they stopped having an
engineering arm and contracted out,Who knows what innovations they could hav
been licensing out to other broadcasters by now if they had retained it.
As for expensive presenters. I don't really care about the presenter, as
long as they are competent to do the job asked of them. If all broadcasters
took that stance then the wages paid for the talking heads would drop
anyhow.

After all many people these days seem to be freelance and work for many
broadcasters and make adverts as well as voice over training films or
whatever. Brian

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"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:tkjtsghcdrnjurti3ml9c62e5ff6md3v6i@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:11:29 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/bbc-one-hd-regional-roll-out-timeline
>>
>>They are doing internet and cable platforms first because they are
>>easier, and leaving Freesat and Freeview until the end of 2022.
>>
>>I wonder if it will happen on schedule. ITV did it ages ago. BBC One are
>>lagging badly behind: it's a shame that they couldn't even transmit
>>regional BBC One *SD* in the BBC One HD slot which would have allowed a
>>TV that was tuned to BBC One HD to show the local news *even if it were
>>in SD*.
>
> Perhaps they've spent all their money on expensive presenters and
> executives and have none left to spend on engineering expertise?
>
> Rod.

On 31/12/2021 12:10, Martin wrote:

> Does the BBC have both a Personnel Department and a Human Resources Department
> like my former employer had?

It does at the BBC in Birmingham, the Mailbox, which is pretty much all
it does there. A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill, which
is now a school of dentistry.

--
Lew

On Fri 31/12/2021 16:57, lew wrote:
> On 31/12/2021 12:10, Martin wrote:
>
>> Does the BBC have both a Personnel Department and a Human Resources
>> Department
>> like my former employer had?
>
> It does at the BBC in Birmingham, the Mailbox, which is pretty much all
> it does there. A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill, which
> is now a school of dentistry.
>

Don't you mean a School of Dentistry where Pebble Mill used to be? ISTR
they demolished it decades ago?

In article <sqncpf$5ik$1@dont-email.me>,
lew <lew@none.org> wrote:
> On 31/12/2021 12:10, Martin wrote:

> > Does the BBC have both a Personnel Department and a Human Resources Department
> > like my former employer had?

> It does at the BBC in Birmingham, the Mailbox, which is pretty much all
> it does there.

And - The Archers

> A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill, which is now a school
> of dentistry.

So, I doubt if any of my original installation work is there now,

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 31/12/2021 16:59, Woody wrote:

>>> Does the BBC have both a Personnel Department and a Human Resources
>>> Department
>>> like my former employer had?
>>
>> It does at the BBC in Birmingham, the Mailbox, which is pretty much
>> all it does there. A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill,
>> which is now a school of dentistry.
>>
>
> Don't you mean a School of Dentistry where Pebble Mill used to be? ISTR
> they demolished it decades ago?

That area of Birmingham was, and still is, known as Pebble Mill. The BBC
building was demolished a few years ago and the new building was opened
last year.

https://pebblemillbirmingham.co.uk/

--
Lew

On 31/12/2021 17:15, charles wrote:
>
>> A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill, which is now a school
>> of dentistry.
> So, I doubt if any of my original installation work is there now,
>
It's amazing to think the facility only lasted 33 years (1971 to 2004)

I had a job interview there. They did my hearing test in the studio used
for The Archers

In article <sqndva$e86$1@dont-email.me>,
lew <lew@none.org> wrote:
> On 31/12/2021 16:59, Woody wrote:

> >>> Does the BBC have both a Personnel Department and a Human Resources
> >>> Department
> >>> like my former employer had?
> >>
> >> It does at the BBC in Birmingham, the Mailbox, which is pretty much
> >> all it does there. A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill,
> >> which is now a school of dentistry.
> >>
> >
> > Don't you mean a School of Dentistry where Pebble Mill used to be? ISTR
> > they demolished it decades ago?

> That area of Birmingham was, and still is, known as Pebble Mill. The BBC
> building was demolished a few years ago and the new building was opened
> last year.

> https://pebblemillbirmingham.co.uk/

ISTR that theBBC built its studion across the main road from the Zoo.
Seemed appropriate ;-)

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article <j38teaFs18bU2@mid.individual.net>,
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 31/12/2021 17:15, charles wrote:
> >
> >> A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill, which is now a school
> >> of dentistry.
> > So, I doubt if any of my original installation work is there now,
> >
> It's amazing to think the facility only lasted 33 years (1971 to 2004)

> I had a job interview there. They did my hearing test in the studio used
> for The Archers

Peggy Wooley aka June Broxham lives just down the road from here.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 31/12/2021 18:18, charles wrote:
> In article <j38teaFs18bU2@mid.individual.net>,
> Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 31/12/2021 17:15, charles wrote:
>>>> A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill, which is now a school
>>>> of dentistry.
>>> So, I doubt if any of my original installation work is there now,
>>>
>> It's amazing to think the facility only lasted 33 years (1971 to 2004)
>> I had a job interview there. They did my hearing test in the studio used
>> for The Archers
> Peggy Wooley aka June Broxham lives just down the road from here.
>
KT24 is the Beverley Hills of the UK

On 31/12/2021 17:17, lew wrote:
> On 31/12/2021 16:59, Woody wrote:
>
>>>> Does the BBC have both a Personnel Department and a Human Resources
>>>> Department
>>>> like my former employer had?
>>>
>>> It does at the BBC in Birmingham, the Mailbox, which is pretty much
>>> all it does there. A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill,
>>> which is now a school of dentistry.
>>>
>>
>> Don't you mean a School of Dentistry where Pebble Mill used to be?
>> ISTR they demolished it decades ago?
>
> That area of Birmingham was, and still is, known as Pebble Mill. The BBC
> building was demolished a few years ago and the new building was opened
> last year.
>
> https://pebblemillbirmingham.co.uk/
>
>
Why would you mill pebbles?

Bill

On 31/12/2021 18:40, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 31/12/2021 18:18, charles wrote:
>> In article <j38teaFs18bU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>     Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 31/12/2021 17:15, charles wrote:
>>>>> A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill, which is now a
>>>>> school
>>>>> of dentistry.
>>>> So, I doubt if any of my original installation work is there now,
>>>>
>>> It's amazing to think the facility only lasted 33 years (1971 to 2004)
>>> I had a job interview there. They did my hearing test in the studio used
>>> for The Archers
>> Peggy Wooley aka June Broxham lives just down the road from here.
>>
> KT24 is the Beverley Hills of the UK

I know for a fact that Charles Hope has a gold plated pool surrounded by
platinum statuettes of Aphrodite in his back yard.

Bill

On 31/12/2021 12:07, Martin wrote:
> Over Xmas BBC TV has turned into a classic film channel.

As always there were the classics but also plenty more to watch.

On 31/12/2021 12:31, charles wrote:
> It still had a Personnel Department when I left.

They seem to change name regularly. I think before we were sold off it
had been Human Resources and Human Capital I think but we always made a
point of calling it Personnel because they hated that name!

On 31/12/2021 12:57, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> I was going to say they made a big mistake when they stopped having an
> engineering arm and contracted out,Who knows what innovations they could hav
> been licensing out to other broadcasters by now if they had retained it.
> As for expensive presenters. I don't really care about the presenter, as
> long as they are competent to do the job asked of them. If all broadcasters
> took that stance then the wages paid for the talking heads would drop
> anyhow.
>
> After all many people these days seem to be freelance and work for many
> broadcasters and make adverts as well as voice over training films or
> whatever. Brian

I thought the original post was from someone at the Daily Mail. They
pay the going because commercial channels probably pay their tea lady
more than the senior BBC executives and of course the Daily Mail editor
gets far more. Though it is easier for them hid salaries because they
are not subject to the FOIA like thhe.

Always thought that no media should be allowed to use the FOIA unless
they agree to also to be covered by it.

In article <sqnqk1$rad$2@dont-email.me>,
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 31/12/2021 12:31, charles wrote:
> > It still had a Personnel Department when I left.

> They seem to change name regularly. I think before we were sold off it
> had been Human Resources and Human Capital I think but we always made a
> point of calling it Personnel because they hated that name!

But there is a differece: Personnel dealt with people. Human Resources just
looks at bodies to fill jobs

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

"MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:sqnqk1$rad$2@dont-email.me...
> On 31/12/2021 12:31, charles wrote:
>> It still had a Personnel Department when I left.
>
> They seem to change name regularly. I think before we were sold off it had
> been Human Resources and Human Capital I think but we always made a point
> of calling it Personnel because they hated that name!

Someone else with the same mindset as me: the more someone wants me to use a
new name for something where I perceive the change to have been pointless,
the more I want to use the old name as much as possible. ;-)

Starburst <-> Opal Fruits
Snickers <-> Marathon
Jif <-> Cif
Daim Bar <-> Dime Bar
Royal Mail <-> Consignia <-> Royal Mail
[Oil of] Olay <-> Oil of Ulay

Human Resources <-> Personnel
CEO <-> MD
Information Services <-> Library
Colleague <-> Assistant (*)

And I've studiously avoided all my life any use of management bullshit such
as OpEx, RatEx, blue-sky thinking, let's run it up the flagpole, thinking
outside the box - unless it's as a piss-take.

(*) As in the signs in shops, clearly intended for customers, which say "If
you cannot find what you are looking for, ask a colleague". No, (from the
customer's perspective) they are an assistant. They are only colleagues of
other people who work in the shop, which is not who the signs are directed
at. If I can't find something in a shop, WTF should I want to ask someone
*I* work with (ie *my* colleague)?

In article <j396lgFtojoU1@mid.individual.net>, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
> On 31/12/2021 18:40, Mark Carver wrote:
> > On 31/12/2021 18:18, charles wrote:
> >> In article <j38teaFs18bU2@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver
> >> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>> On 31/12/2021 17:15, charles wrote:
> >>>>> A sad decline from the glory days of Pebble Mill, which is now a
> >>>>> school of dentistry.
> >>>> So, I doubt if any of my original installation work is there now,
> >>>>
> >>> It's amazing to think the facility only lasted 33 years (1971 to
> >>> 2004) I had a job interview there. They did my hearing test in the
> >>> studio used for The Archers
> >> Peggy Wooley aka June Broxham lives just down the road from here.
> >>
> > KT24 is the Beverley Hills of the UK

> I know for a fact that Charles Hope has a gold plated pool surrounded by
> platinum statuettes of Aphrodite in his back yard.

Facts can be very misleading. A primrose has just come out for New Year,
though

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:32:57 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>Colleague <-> Assistant (*)
[...]
>(*) As in the signs in shops, clearly intended for customers, which say "If
>you cannot find what you are looking for, ask a colleague". No, (from the
>customer's perspective) they are an assistant. They are only colleagues of
>other people who work in the shop, which is not who the signs are directed
>at.

Also -

Flight Assistant <-> Air Hostess.

I've always thought that one a particularly sensible verbal
adjustment, and not just because I can't imagine what the old term for
a male one would have been ("Air Host" doesn't sound right at all).
Flight Assistants are the people who assist you during a flight, so it
makes perfect sense.

Rod.