On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>
>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>
> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>
....As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.

Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
standard tea, or some-at else? .

In article <20240422120640.d5b210fa4e1844f4593e2b9f@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 12:06:40 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:52:30 +0100
>"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> There was a time when
>> soda bottles, lemonade, cola, milk bottles etc had a deposit on them
>> reclaimable when returned to a retailer (who may or may not have sold
>> the original filled bottle.
>
> This scheme was *far* simpler than the current scheme with complex
>machines printing vouchers to be redeemed but probably wouldn't suit modern
>siops which are mostly horriblemarket style and scanner dependent.
>
There is one such scheme that seems to work for one product in some
horrible markets; Sodastream CO2 cylinders can be exchanged in some
horrible markets. You take your filled cylinder off the shelf and take
it and the empty cylinder to the checkout. The bar code on the packaging
of the fresh cylinder is scanned to charge and the bar code on the
empty cylinder for the refund.

Calor gas (other gases are available) can be exchanged at some petrol
stations and hardware stores on the same basis.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100, Soup wrote:

> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>
>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>
>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>
> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>
> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
> standard tea, or some-at else? .

I don't think you can beat the builders tea, although I get odd looks when
I pour the milk in the cup before the tea.

--
Simon

RLU: 222126

On 22/04/2024 12:49, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:

> Calor gas (other gases are available) can be exchanged at some petrol
> stations and hardware stores on the same basis.
>
When I get a full gas bottle, the seller checks the empty bottle has the
right name and is the correct size. That's it. Some places use a barcode
on a piece of paper near the till so they can put the transaction
through the till.

Officially, the bottles are rented off the gas supplier, and the hefty
initial payment is a deposit, which is returnable on paper, but the
return value very rapidly drops to the scrap metal value, even if you
keep the receipt.

I use Calor, but all the UK suppliers use the same system.

There are bottles available which can be refilled using Autogas at
filling station pumps, but those are an outright purchase.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100
Soup <cheez2011@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
> > On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
> >
> >> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
> >>
> > BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
> > enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
> >
> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.

Or even BS 6008:1980 tea.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

On 22/04/2024 at 13:03, Simon wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100, Soup wrote:
>
>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>
>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>
>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>
>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>
> I don't think you can beat the builders tea, although I get odd looks when
> I pour the milk in the cup before the tea.
>
>
>

If you make it in a teapot, that's the standard way, isn't it?
If you use bags (yetch!) then milk should go in after brewing and
removing the bag.

I read "somewhere" that teabags are now designed to brew for only about
30 seconds.
Here: Oscar Woolley, the co-founder of the award-winning SUKI Tea Makers

--
Chris Elvidge, England
MY SUSPENSION WAS NOT "MUTUAL"

In article <20240422130957.a928bfdb0857905ecefbb2ab@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 13:09:57 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100
>Soup <cheez2011@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>> > On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>> >
>> >> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>> >>
>> > BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>> > enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>> >
>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>
> Or even BS 6008:1980 tea.
>
Withdrawn: 18 Sep 2023

:(
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

Peter said:
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
> news:WcUKP1AQeUJmFAZV@salmiron.com:
>
>>
>> Which is why, yesterday morning, some God botherers left my front door
>> with a fleas in their ears. Also I was cooking my wife's breakfast
>> before she went to work. I did not need a lesson from the bible.
>
> I'm afraid I consider the door-to-door bible-thumpers as fair game. I talk
> to them reasonably and calmly, with logic rather than fervour, until they
> start edging off down the path looking for a way to escape with dignity.

Onceuponalongtimeago, I had a pair of JWs who tried to open the
conversation by asking did I know that Jupiter had seven suns orbiting
around it ? No, I said, and dragged them inside to drink tea and talk
astronomy. An hour or so later, we'd more or less compromised on
agreeing that the universe is indeed remarkable ...

I was bored, okay ?

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Soup said:
> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>
>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>
>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>
> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>
> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
> standard tea, or some-at else? .

Whatever you happen to fancy. Anna biscuit.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Simon said:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100, Soup wrote:
>
>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>
>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>
>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>
>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>
> I don't think you can beat the builders tea,

I could lend you a whisk ?

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 22/04/2024 13:03, Simon wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:48:48 +0100, Soup wrote:
>
>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>
>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>
>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>
>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>
> I don't think you can beat the builders tea, although I get odd looks when
> I pour the milk in the cup before the tea.

If it is a mug, or a pottery cup, then so you should.
It is only in china cups that the tea should go in first.
It is all to do with the different temperature coefficients.

The reason that MIF is associated with the 'working clarses' is that, by
definition, they are not expected to be using/affording china cups!

HTH

(Aint science brilliant!)

Chris

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:36:43 +0100
Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:

> If you make it in a teapot, that's the standard way, isn't it?

Then there's the way I encountered among students at Ripon and York
St Johns. They had a ginormous teapot which would periodically (several
times a day) have a handful of teabags thrown into it, a fill of boiling
water and a good stir. About once a week they'd empty it, scoop out all the
teabags and seed it with a few handfuls of teabags.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

On 15/04/2024 at 20:21, Sn!pe wrote:
> Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
>
>> In message <1qs2817.1u7cxipq7m5cnN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, Sn!pe
>> <snipeco.2@gmail.com> writes
>>> The Sn!pe's End Inn welcomes coach parties. If given sufficient notice
>>> we can arrange extra supplies: replenishment of BA crates in the chara'
>>> luggage space; curly sandwiches; Pickled On!ons; ditto Eggses; plain
>>> cripps with salt in blue paper twists; you name it, we can get it.
>>>
>>> The sets of darts have been counted.
>>>
>>
>> Is Ye Pubbe dog still doing unmentionable things to patron's legs ?
>>
>
> He kept snarling at strangers so he got shown the door. We
> can't have ill-behaved woofers putting off the paying punters.
>

A few old myths about beer revealed.

https://theconversation.com/five-things-our-research-uncovered-when-we-recreated-16th-century-beer-and-barrels-223599

--
Chris Elvidge, England
I WILL NOT STRUT AROUND LIKE I OWN THE PLACE

On 22/04/2024 10:36, Peter wrote:
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
> news:WcUKP1AQeUJmFAZV@salmiron.com:
>
>>
>> Which is why, yesterday morning, some God botherers left my front door
>> with a fleas in their ears. Also I was cooking my wife's breakfast
>> before she went to work. I did not need a lesson from the bible.
>
> I'm afraid I consider the door-to-door bible-thumpers as fair game. I talk
> to them reasonably and calmly, with logic rather than fervour, until they
> start edging off down the path looking for a way to escape with dignity.
>
My eldest son has a similar strategy.
After he had converted one or two to agnosticism, they started sending
them round in twos. He is currently winning 5:0 but still they keep
coming round.
They probably seem him as a challenge now - but he is barred from their
'meeting houses' or whatever...

Chris

Soup <cheez2011@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
> > On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
> >
> >> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
> >>
> > BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
> > enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
> >
> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>
> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>

This is my method, which is mine. The guiding principle being that for
a consistent result, one must have a consistent method. I like my tea.

Sn!pe's Standard Brew is two bags of Twining's Asssam in a pint mug
(don't forget to warm the mug); pour over very freshly boiled watter,
stir and steep for 'zackly six minutes. Squeeze the bags when
retrieving them. Add half a teaspoon of mild-flavoured hunny to
sweeten, stir clockwise vigorously but without slopping and add just
enough semi-skimmed cow juice into the centre of the vortex to turn
the colour just off-black.

When adding the watter it's very noticeable that properly hot watter
releases much more colour than watter that's not quite at boiling point.
This is a Clue.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:54:29 +0200
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> It turned out that 2 super models from Jehovas Witnesses

I strongly suspect it's apocryphal that one young woman disposed a
JW nuisance by answering the door sky clad with an altar and upside down
cross visible in the background and said "Welcome you must be the
sacrifices".

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

In article <20240422151505.8ef8d7caefbf1c599c89c173@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 15:15:05 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:36:43 +0100
>Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
>
>> If you make it in a teapot, that's the standard way, isn't it?
>
> Then there's the way I encountered among students at Ripon and York
>St Johns. They had a ginormous teapot which would periodically (several
>times a day) have a handful of teabags thrown into it, a fill of boiling
>water and a good stir. About once a week they'd empty it, scoop out all the
>teabags and seed it with a few handfuls of teabags.
>
Not in the factory I first worked. I worked in the office of the
engineering department of a chemicals company. In the middle of the
morning 'Doris' came round with her trolley with plates heaving with
buttered toast covered with tea towels and in the afternoon with
buttered scones. In the morning she served 'coffee' from a Toffee urn
and in the afternoon 'tea' from the same Toffee urn. It was real coffee
and real tea, if you were at the end of her run you got coffee grounds
or tea leaves in your mug.

The buttered toast was most welcome, I have never been a fan of scones
or drinks served from a Toffee urn.

'Doris' (I cannot remember her name after 60 years) was a real 'can I do
you now sir' character but with a South Lancashire accent.

Perhaps, that was the best year of my life.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 12:28:19 +0100, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

> You can almost hear the grass growing; I expect it'll be
> knee deep by tea time.

ITYM knee high.

--
The Internet is full of people who can't read and want to talk
about sandwiches - Noam Chomsky, Oct 2013

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:06:40 +0100
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:52:30 +0100
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
> > There was a time when
> > soda bottles, lemonade, cola, milk bottles etc had a deposit on them
> > reclaimable when returned to a retailer (who may or may not have sold
> > the original filled bottle.
>
> This scheme was *far* simpler than the current scheme with complex
> machines printing vouchers to be redeemed but probably wouldn't suit modern
> siops which are mostly horriblemarket style and scanner dependent.
>

The Germans Belgians and maybe more do it so much betterer; standard size
Beer bottles are returned, washed and reused many a time. Personally I
*like* seeing the scuffmarks where the bottles have been jangled many a
time.

fphssznexf

ah well

shyyznexf
better

xneyznek
?

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
news:20240422153659.5068d528dcfff540d94f0fd3@eircom.net:

> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:54:29 +0200
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> It turned out that 2 super models from Jehovas Witnesses
>
> I strongly suspect it's apocryphal that one young woman disposed a
> JW nuisance by answering the door sky clad with an altar and upside down
> cross visible in the background and said "Welcome you must be the
> sacrifices".

Ooh, I do so wish it weren't apocryphal.

--
Peter
-----

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
news:20240422151505.8ef8d7caefbf1c599c89c173@eircom.net:

> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:36:43 +0100
> Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
>
>> If you make it in a teapot, that's the standard way, isn't it?
>
> Then there's the way I encountered among students at Ripon and
> York
> St Johns. They had a ginormous teapot which would periodically
> (several times a day) have a handful of teabags thrown into it, a fill
> of boiling water and a good stir. About once a week they'd empty it,
> scoop out all the teabags and seed it with a few handfuls of teabags.
Simlar on the fisheries patrol boat I uster jbex on in the '70s, except
there were no teabags, just leaves. Cook made the tea first thing in the
morning and just topped it up all day.

--
Peter
-----

On 22-Apr-24 16:45, Julian Macassey wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 12:28:19 +0100, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You can almost hear the grass growing; I expect it'll be
>> knee deep by tea time.
>
> ITYM knee high.

When the ground is sodden, it really can be knee deep.

--
Sam Plusnet

In message <20240422153659.5068d528dcfff540d94f0fd3@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:54:29 +0200
>D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> It turned out that 2 super models from Jehovas Witnesses
>
> I strongly suspect it's apocryphal that one young woman disposed a
>JW nuisance by answering the door sky clad with an altar and upside down
>cross visible in the background and said "Welcome you must be the
>sacrifices".
>

The JW's called last week, as luck would have it, I was el swear at the
time. Had I been at home, it would have been just before lunch time, so
I could have used by non-conformist druid routine,

"Welcome we're non-conformist druids and you're just in time for lunch,
we eat non-believers."

Oh well, there's always next time.

I disunforget whether it was the JWs or the Mormons, but mother disposed
of them rapidly by suggesting that they come in and discuss it over a
cigarette and a glass of gin.

I did get stopped in the street once by a couple of Mormons, who asked
me if I knew anyone who wanted to talk about tbq. I pointed out the
church up the side road, and suggested that they try there.

Adrian
--
To Reply :
replace "bulleid" with "adrian" - all mail to bulleid is rejected
Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops
Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies.

On 22-Apr-24 13:25, John Williamson wrote:
> On 22/04/2024 12:49, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>
>> Calor gas (other gases are available) can be exchanged at some petrol
>> stations and hardware stores on the same basis.
>>
> When I get a full gas bottle, the seller checks the empty bottle has the
> right name and is the correct size. That's it. Some places use a barcode
> on a piece of paper near the till so they can put the transaction
> through the till.
>
> Officially, the bottles are rented off the gas supplier, and the hefty
> initial payment is a deposit, which is returnable on paper, but the
> return value very rapidly drops to the scrap metal value, even if you
> keep the receipt.
>
> I use Calor, but all the UK suppliers use the same system.
>
> There are bottles available which can be refilled using Autogas at
> filling station pumps, but those are an outright purchase.
>
I finally gave up on Calor for the caravan since I'd had such a hard
time finding refills for the last several years.
I now have a couple of Flogas Gaslight 5kg bottles which, combined,
weigh much the same as a full Calor 6kg bottle.

When the gas runs out halfway through cooking an evening meal on a rainy
night (it always is, somehow) I only have to swap bottles - not go
driving around looking for an open garage which actually has stock.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 22-Apr-24 15:38, Sn!pe wrote:
> Soup <cheez2011@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 21/04/2024 12:21, John Williamson wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2024 11:56, Simon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel I should go get a bottle of wine, or two first :-)
>>>>
>>> BA (4.5) is the usually preferred tipple, or builders' tea (Milk and
>>> enough sugar to let you stand the spoon up)
>>>
>> ...As opposed to NATO standard (coo an' two) milk and two sugars.
>>
>> Quick straw poll required (requires a more technical sheddi than I)on
>> the best ...<tipple>... to go with a PP - BA, builders tea, Nato
>> standard tea, or some-at else? .
>>
>
> This is my method, which is mine. The guiding principle being that for
> a consistent result, one must have a consistent method. I like my tea.
>
> Sn!pe's Standard Brew is two bags of Twining's Asssam in a pint mug
> (don't forget to warm the mug); pour over very freshly boiled watter,
> stir and steep for 'zackly six minutes. Squeeze the bags when
> retrieving them. Add half a teaspoon of mild-flavoured hunny to
> sweeten, stir clockwise vigorously but without slopping and add just
> enough semi-skimmed cow juice into the centre of the vortex to turn
> the colour just off-black.
>
> When adding the watter it's very noticeable that properly hot watter
> releases much more colour than watter that's not quite at boiling point.
> This is a Clue.
>
In one previous place of servitude, the canteen provided a boiling water
dispenser and plenty of tea bags, instant coffee, milk & sugar at
Sheddie price - help yourself.

A cow-orker would throw five or six tea bags into a mug and add hot
water. He'd wait 20 or 30 seconds, and then discard the teabags.
(He was left with half a mug of tea.)

--
Sam Plusnet