In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>> Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
>>>> the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
>>> I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
>>> https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
>>>
>>>> pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
>>> I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
>>> btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
>>> functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
>>> historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
>> People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
>> with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
>> selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
>> that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
>> get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
>> Plus the rust is real too.
>>
>> Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
>> _case_ advertised for $110:
>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
>>
>> From a seller who recently sold a 486 with Win95 installed for $549:
>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
>>
>> They even got $299 for a 286 in a boring little office-PC case:
>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
>
> very interesting. thanks for that. I will see what I have I can sell!
> the biggest problem with such large items is the packing and shipping.
>
> this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
> https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
> carriers, then you just pick the one you want

Thanks for that link, it points out some cheaper courier options
that I wasn't aware of, although I'm a bit skeptical about the
reality of them picking up from my location the next day. Courier
deliveries often take a couple of weeks after arriving at the
nearest major town, before they brave the journey out into the
unknown.

I'd probably send them by Aus Post since they should come under the
parcel weight limit. It's the tendency of things like RAM to get
dislodged from knocks that makes me concerned. If moving a PC
carelessly from room to room can do it, I can only imagine what
happens bouncing around in a truck (and trust me, a lot of bouncing
around goes on in courier trucks for sure!).

>> Well it seems the more I procrastinate the more they're worth,
>
> it seems if you keep anything long enough it becomes worth something to
> collectors

Unfortunately not, as I found out while selling a deceased
relative's military book collection a while ago. Plenty of first
editions, hundreds touching or over 100 years old, but if nobody's
interested in the subject anymore then it doesn't matter much.
Still, three collectable ones (not the oldest) turned out to be
worth around $600 total alone, and with a lot of work I managed to
sell and give away the rest to homes other than the tip before the
house had to be cleared. The biggest surprise was that very few
book sellers were interested, but some individuals were keen.

>> but
>> like old cars it's all a matter of how much they rust away while I
>> wait!
>
> fortunately I can store items without that problem.

Actually it looks like I did move most of the old ones inside a
while ago when I first thought about selling some. That explains
why I don't have any room. :)

>> Also this is posted, as usual, from a Pentium 1 beige box PC in a
>> case that looks somewhat similar to your 386 one. Booted into
>> Linux (an old version, but it is able to boot into a current
>> Linux distro Live CD), but also with Win98 installed on a second
>> HDD (used mainly to run software for old parallel port and ISA
>> electronics-related hardware devices).
>
> this is the PC I currently use .. https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg

I suspect it's way more powerful than you theoretically need, but
Windows always finds ways to swallow up resources so it's the price
you pay with that.

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In aus.computers Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote:
> On 7/12/2023 7:36 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> From a seller who recently sold a 486 with Win95 installed for $549:
>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
>>
>> They even got $299 for a 286 in a boring little office-PC case:
>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
>
> Much cheaper at the local op shop if you're into that sort of thing.

I look around op-shops often and actually I'd say the era of
finding such old PCs there is long gone. In fact even the ones that
do take electronics rarely seem to have PCs of any description.
Computer accessories are often there though. It might depend on
what they choose to accept, I knew one Salvos that used to keep all
that stuff out the back but later switched to just throwing it away
immediately (with rare exceptions).

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On 5/12/2023 4:50 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 28/11/2023 7:51 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 28/11/2023 6:33 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 4:14 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was one of
>>>>>>>>>> the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm not too
>>>>>>>>> bad with pipes :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his in
>>>>>>> their back yard to play in tho
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is my 'play pen' .. https://auslink.info/pics/shed1.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (part of it)
>>>>>
>>>>> Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised and
>>>>> neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you're certainly in that category yourself
>>>>
>>>
>>> and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
>>>
>>> https://auslink.info/pics/study.jpg
>>>GB
>> An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
>
> just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis for
> your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you cannot know what
> is in those towers, but can only guess. one should not judge a book by
> it's cover, as the saying goes.

Well those mini towers theoretically could have an I9, 64GB of DDR4, and
a few TB of SSDs, but it would be like putting new wine in old bottles
and you'd have a major cooling problem.

Anyway, it's not just the PCs, I haven't seen a combined VHS/DVD player
in years, the printer look like an op shop job, the amp could be
anything from the 70s on etc.

> or do you consider something to be
> vintage if it doesn't look like it came off the USS Enterprise, complete
> with flashing neon lights and self levitation properties?

Flashing lights on a PC are just for wankers, when we ordered the new PC
for the museums 737 simulator, I knocked back the case the was
originally specified because it had wanker lights all over it.

It would appear that you haven't heard that neon light have been
replaced by LEDs for some time now.

> curios minds would like to know...
>
"curios minds" curios being the possessive of curio defined in the
Merriam Webster dictionary as an unusual or bizarre person.

One thing about your pictures is that you used to post under the 'nym of
Felix Unger, a fictional rather effeminate man with OCD. Don't know
about effeminate, but the pictures certainly look as if you have a case
of OCD.

Keithr0 wrote:
> On 5/12/2023 4:50 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 28/11/2023 7:51 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 6:33 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 4:14 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was one
>>>>>>>>>>> of the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm not
>>>>>>>>>> too bad with pipes :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his in
>>>>>>>> their back yard to play in tho
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is my 'play pen' .. https://auslink.info/pics/shed1.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (part of it)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised and
>>>>>> neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you're certainly in that category yourself
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
>>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/study.jpg
>>>> GB
>>> An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
>>
>> just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis for
>> your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you cannot know
>> what is in those towers, but can only guess. one should not judge a
>> book by it's cover, as the saying goes.
>
> Well those mini towers theoretically could have an I9, 64GB of DDR4,
> and a few TB of SSDs, but it would be like putting new wine in old
> bottles and you'd have a major cooling problem.
>
> Anyway, it's not just the PCs, I haven't seen a combined VHS/DVD
> player in years,

used for transferring analogue media to digital

> the printer look like an op shop job,

nup. bought new about 12 months ago HP DeskJet 2721e

> the amp could be anything from the 70s on etc.

nup. HDMI surround sound Yamaha HTR 2067

but I'm sure whatever equipment you have is vastly superior, you being a
vastly superior person and all. (according to you, of course)

>
>> or do you consider something to be
>> vintage if it doesn't look like it came off the USS Enterprise,
>> complete with flashing neon lights and self levitation properties?
>
> Flashing lights on a PC are just for wankers,

well you would know what wankers require..

> when we ordered the new PC for the museums 737 simulator, I knocked
> back the case the was originally specified because it had wanker
> lights all over it.
>
> It would appear that you haven't heard that neon light have been
> replaced by LEDs for some time now.
>
>> curios minds would like to know...
>>
> "curios minds" curios being the possessive of curio defined in the
> Merriam Webster dictionary as an unusual or bizarre person.

typo. left out the U but u knew that

>
> One thing about your pictures is that you used to post under the 'nym
> of Felix Unger, a fictional rather effeminate man with OCD. Don't know
> about effeminate, but the pictures certainly look as if you have a
> case of OCD.

at least I can find what I want to when I want to

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On 7/12/2023 7:41 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 5/12/2023 4:50 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 28/11/2023 7:51 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 6:33 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 4:14 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was one
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>> too bad with pipes :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his in
>>>>>>>>> their back yard to play in tho
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this is my 'play pen' .. https://auslink.info/pics/shed1.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (part of it)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised and
>>>>>>> neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you're certainly in that category yourself
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/study.jpg
>>>>> GB
>>>> An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
>>>
>>> just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis for
>>> your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you cannot know
>>> what is in those towers, but can only guess. one should not judge a
>>> book by it's cover, as the saying goes.
>>
>> Well those mini towers theoretically could have an I9, 64GB of DDR4,
>> and a few TB of SSDs, but it would be like putting new wine in old
>> bottles and you'd have a major cooling problem.

Tower cases are cheap enough these days. If you were going to do a build
the nature of the one Keith is suggesting, you would buy an
*appropriate* case, an appropriate PSU and an appropriate cooling
system. You can buy a 4 TB SSD quite cheaply now so his point there is moot.
>>
>> Anyway, it's not just the PCs, I haven't seen a combined VHS/DVD
>> player in years,
>
> used for transferring analogue media to digital

Still functional. Well, that shot him down in flames!
>
>> the printer look like an op shop job,
>
> nup. bought new about 12 months ago HP DeskJet 2721e

Well, that shot him down in flames!
>
>> the amp could be anything from the 70s on etc.
>
> nup. HDMI surround sound Yamaha HTR 2067

Well, that shot him down in flames!
>
> but I'm sure whatever equipment you have is vastly superior, you being a
> vastly superior person and all. (according to you, of course)
>
>>
>>> or do you consider something to be
>>> vintage if it doesn't look like it came off the USS Enterprise,
>>> complete with flashing neon lights and self levitation properties?
>>
>> Flashing lights on a PC are just for wankers,
>
> well you would know what wankers require..

With the last case I purchased, a year or two back in fact, I
deliberately eschewed Keith's wanker lights. I even didn't use the LED
fans I obtained in a SH computer recently purchased. No shortage of
plain black fans in my boxes of goodies. Hey, the case didn't even have
a *window* in it so *internal* wanker lights could be seen. Let me tell
you, it's hard to purchase a plain Jane case these days - must be a lot
of people like Keith around.
>
>> when we ordered the new PC for the museums 737 simulator, I knocked
>> back the case the was originally specified because it had wanker
>> lights all over it.
>>
>> It would appear that you haven't heard that neon light have been
>> replaced by LEDs for some time now.

Neon, LED - wanker lights are wanker lights!
>>
>>> curios minds would like to know...
>>>
>> "curios minds" curios being the possessive of curio defined in the
>> Merriam Webster dictionary as an unusual or bizarre person.
>
> typo. left out the U but u knew that
>
>>
>> One thing about your pictures is that you used to post under the 'nym
>> of Felix Unger, a fictional rather effeminate man with OCD. Don't know
>> about effeminate, but the pictures certainly look as if you have a
>> case of OCD.
>
> at least I can find what I want to when I want to
>
No different to my wife. Not something I'd be particularly concerned
about Felix.

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Thu, 07 Dec 2023 12:41:35 +1100, Computer Nerd Kev
<not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

> In aus.computers Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote:
>> On 7/12/2023 7:36 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> From a seller who recently sold a 486 with Win95 installed for $549:
>>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
>>>
>>> They even got $299 for a 286 in a boring little office-PC case:
>>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
>>
>> Much cheaper at the local op shop if you're into that sort of thing.
>
> I look around op-shops often and actually I'd say the era of
> finding such old PCs there is long gone. In fact even the ones that
> do take electronics rarely seem to have PCs of any description.
> Computer accessories are often there though. It might depend on
> what they choose to accept, I knew one Salvos that used to keep all
> that stuff out the back but later switched to just throwing it away
> immediately (with rare exceptions).

Never seen anyone buy a used PC at a garage sale. Used laptops do sell.

Xeno wrote:
> On 7/12/2023 7:41 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2023 4:50 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 28/11/2023 7:51 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 6:33 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/11/2023 4:14 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>>> too bad with pipes :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his in
>>>>>>>>>> their back yard to play in tho
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this is my 'play pen' .. https://auslink.info/pics/shed1.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (part of it)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised
>>>>>>>> and neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my
>>>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you're certainly in that category yourself
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/study.jpg
>>>>>> GB
>>>>> An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
>>>>
>>>> just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis
>>>> for your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you cannot
>>>> know what is in those towers, but can only guess. one should not
>>>> judge a book by it's cover, as the saying goes.
>>>
>>> Well those mini towers theoretically could have an I9, 64GB of DDR4,
>>> and a few TB of SSDs, but it would be like putting new wine in old
>>> bottles and you'd have a major cooling problem.
>
> Tower cases are cheap enough these days. If you were going to do a
> build the nature of the one Keith is suggesting, you would buy an
> *appropriate* case, an appropriate PSU and an appropriate cooling
> system. You can buy a 4 TB SSD quite cheaply now so his point there is
> moot.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it's not just the PCs, I haven't seen a combined VHS/DVD
>>> player in years,
>>
>> used for transferring analogue media to digital
>
> Still functional. Well, that shot him down in flames!

:)

>>
>>> the printer look like an op shop job,
>>
>> nup. bought new about 12 months ago HP DeskJet 2721e
>
> Well, that shot him down in flames!

:)

>>
>>> the amp could be anything from the 70s on etc.
>>
>> nup. HDMI surround sound Yamaha HTR 2067
>
> Well, that shot him down in flames!

well and truly burnt to a crisp!

>>
>> but I'm sure whatever equipment you have is vastly superior, you
>> being a vastly superior person and all. (according to you, of course)
>>
>>>
>>>> or do you consider something to be
>>>> vintage if it doesn't look like it came off the USS Enterprise,
>>>> complete with flashing neon lights and self levitation properties?
>>>
>>> Flashing lights on a PC are just for wankers,
>>
>> well you would know what wankers require..
>
> With the last case I purchased, a year or two back in fact, I
> deliberately eschewed Keith's wanker lights. I even didn't use the LED
> fans I obtained in a SH computer recently purchased. No shortage of
> plain black fans in my boxes of goodies. Hey, the case didn't even
> have a *window* in it so *internal* wanker lights could be seen. Let
> me tell you, it's hard to purchase a plain Jane case these days - must
> be a lot of people like Keith around.
>>
>>> when we ordered the new PC for the museums 737 simulator, I knocked
>>> back the case the was originally specified because it had wanker
>>> lights all over it.
>>>
>>> It would appear that you haven't heard that neon light have been
>>> replaced by LEDs for some time now.
>
> Neon, LED - wanker lights are wanker lights!
>>>
>>>> curios minds would like to know...
>>>>
>>> "curios minds" curios being the possessive of curio defined in the
>>> Merriam Webster dictionary as an unusual or bizarre person.
>>
>> typo. left out the U but u knew that
>>
>>>
>>> One thing about your pictures is that you used to post under the
>>> 'nym of Felix Unger, a fictional rather effeminate man with OCD.
>>> Don't know about effeminate, but the pictures certainly look as if
>>> you have a case of OCD.
>>
>> at least I can find what I want to when I want to
>>
> No different to my wife. Not something I'd be particularly concerned
> about Felix.
>
>

--
Have a nice day!..

Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>> Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>> Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
>>>>> the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
>>>> I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
>>>> https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
>>>>
>>>>> pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
>>>> I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
>>>> btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
>>>> functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
>>>> historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
>>> People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
>>> with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
>>> selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
>>> that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
>>> get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
>>> Plus the rust is real too.
>>>
>>> Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
>>> _case_ advertised for $110:
>>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
>>>
>>> From a seller who recently sold a 486 with Win95 installed for $549:
>>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
>>>
>>> They even got $299 for a 286 in a boring little office-PC case:
>>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
>> very interesting. thanks for that. I will see what I have I can sell!
>> the biggest problem with such large items is the packing and shipping.
>>
>> this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
>> https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
>> carriers, then you just pick the one you want
> Thanks for that link, it points out some cheaper courier options
> that I wasn't aware of, although I'm a bit skeptical about the
> reality of them picking up from my location the next day. Courier
> deliveries often take a couple of weeks after arriving at the
> nearest major town, before they brave the journey out into the
> unknown.

never had a problem with them. pick up same day or next and delivery
usually three or four days

>
> I'd probably send them by Aus Post since they should come under the
> parcel weight limit.

they have a generous weight limit, but a length limit of 1 metre, so you
need to be aware of that

> It's the tendency of things like RAM to get
> dislodged from knocks that makes me concerned. If moving a PC
> carelessly from room to room can do it,

had to imagine that happening since RAM locks in it's slots with clips
each end

> I can only imagine what
> happens bouncing around in a truck (and trust me, a lot of bouncing
> around goes on in courier trucks for sure!).

you need to pack them with spongy foam or crumpled up newspaper, etc.,
so they can move within the packing box to absorb some impact force

>
>>> Well it seems the more I procrastinate the more they're worth,
>> it seems if you keep anything long enough it becomes worth something to
>> collectors
> Unfortunately not, as I found out while selling a deceased
> relative's military book collection a while ago. Plenty of first
> editions, hundreds touching or over 100 years old, but if nobody's
> interested in the subject anymore then it doesn't matter much.
> Still, three collectable ones (not the oldest) turned out to be
> worth around $600 total alone, and with a lot of work I managed to
> sell and give away the rest to homes other than the tip before the
> house had to be cleared. The biggest surprise was that very few
> book sellers were interested, but some individuals were keen.
>
>>> but
>>> like old cars it's all a matter of how much they rust away while I
>>> wait!
>> fortunately I can store items without that problem.
> Actually it looks like I did move most of the old ones inside a
> while ago when I first thought about selling some. That explains
> why I don't have any room. :)
>
>>> Also this is posted, as usual, from a Pentium 1 beige box PC in a
>>> case that looks somewhat similar to your 386 one. Booted into
>>> Linux (an old version, but it is able to boot into a current
>>> Linux distro Live CD), but also with Win98 installed on a second
>>> HDD (used mainly to run software for old parallel port and ISA
>>> electronics-related hardware devices).
>> this is the PC I currently use .. https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
> I suspect it's way more powerful than you theoretically need, but
> Windows always finds ways to swallow up resources so it's the price
> you pay with that.
>

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Have a nice day!..

In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>> this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
>>> https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
>>> carriers, then you just pick the one you want
>> Thanks for that link, it points out some cheaper courier options
>> that I wasn't aware of, although I'm a bit skeptical about the
>> reality of them picking up from my location the next day. Courier
>> deliveries often take a couple of weeks after arriving at the
>> nearest major town, before they brave the journey out into the
>> unknown.
>
> never had a problem with them. pick up same day or next and delivery
> usually three or four days

All the courier companies sub-contract with the same local courier
company which is willing to deliver to me, but only when it suits
them. Except for many overseas companies (eg. DHL) that just send
with Aus Post once the parcel gets to Australia.

>> It's the tendency of things like RAM to get
>> dislodged from knocks that makes me concerned. If moving a PC
>> carelessly from room to room can do it,
>
> had to imagine that happening since RAM locks in it's slots with clips
> each end

Presumably the RAM slot designer thought so too, but in practice
there's still some wiggle-room when clipped in which allows them to
come out of the slot contacts enough to stop working. Same thing
with expansion cards (PCI, etc.) even though they're usally screwed
in at the panel.

It's the first thing to check if a desktop PC has been moved and
won't boot thereafter. I guess for posting them I could just put a
disclaimer in the Ebay listing explaining that buyers should be
prepared to do that if the received computer doesn't boot.

>> I can only imagine what
>> happens bouncing around in a truck (and trust me, a lot of bouncing
>> around goes on in courier trucks for sure!).
>
> you need to pack them with spongy foam or crumpled up newspaper, etc.,
> so they can move within the packing box to absorb some impact force

Sure but I've seen that it doesn't take using them as a football to
cause the trouble, it would be too hard to avoid any shaking about
inside.

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Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>> Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> In aus.computers Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>> this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
>>>> https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
>>>> carriers, then you just pick the one you want
>>> Thanks for that link, it points out some cheaper courier options
>>> that I wasn't aware of, although I'm a bit skeptical about the
>>> reality of them picking up from my location the next day. Courier
>>> deliveries often take a couple of weeks after arriving at the
>>> nearest major town, before they brave the journey out into the
>>> unknown.
>> never had a problem with them. pick up same day or next and delivery
>> usually three or four days
> All the courier companies sub-contract with the same local courier
> company which is willing to deliver to me, but only when it suits
> them. Except for many overseas companies (eg. DHL) that just send
> with Aus Post once the parcel gets to Australia.
>
>>> It's the tendency of things like RAM to get
>>> dislodged from knocks that makes me concerned. If moving a PC
>>> carelessly from room to room can do it,
>> had to imagine that happening since RAM locks in it's slots with clips
>> each end
> Presumably the RAM slot designer thought so too, but in practice
> there's still some wiggle-room when clipped in which allows them to
> come out of the slot contacts enough to stop working. Same thing
> with expansion cards (PCI, etc.) even though they're usally screwed
> in at the panel.
>
> It's the first thing to check if a desktop PC has been moved and
> won't boot thereafter. I guess for posting them I could just put a
> disclaimer in the Ebay listing explaining that buyers should be
> prepared to do that if the received computer doesn't boot.
>
>>> I can only imagine what
>>> happens bouncing around in a truck (and trust me, a lot of bouncing
>>> around goes on in courier trucks for sure!).
>> you need to pack them with spongy foam or crumpled up newspaper, etc.,
>> so they can move within the packing box to absorb some impact force
> Sure but I've seen that it doesn't take using them as a football to
> cause the trouble, it would be too hard to avoid any shaking about
> inside.
>

I guess all you can do is put a disclaimer on the eBay add as you suggest

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Clocky wrote:
> On 5/12/2023 8:34 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 5/12/2023 8:31 am, Archer wrote:
>>>>> Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/12/2023 4:18 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/12/2023 12:34 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/12/2023 11:03 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/12/2023 1:33 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don't get too cocky, things are known about you.Your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address is known"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a veiled threat that some action will be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it? I don't see it as such.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't see a lot of things normal ppl do..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me give you a red hot tip for free here Felix: You
>>>>>>>>>>>> ain't "normal" :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what's not normal is someone who blatantly lies about seeing
>>>>>>>>>>> me drive past their house, then later thanks me for posting
>>>>>>>>>>> a photo because it helps to know me better
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is not normal is people making wildly exaggerated claims
>>>>>>>>>> about their capabilities. Like 3 apprenticeships for instance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> normal behavior for dishonest ppl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You would be an expert on that subject.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so you're saying I'm dishonest. please tell me why and give
>>>>>>> examples. btw and fyi I'm not dishonest, but maybe you are,
>>>>>>> since you're mates with the most dishonest person here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one you keep changing your nym to avoid killfiles,
>>>>>
>>>>> lol!
>>>>> Yeah, that certainly overshadows all the whopping great lies that
>>>>> YLM has coughed up.
>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe that isn't "dishonest" but it certainly deceptive so fuck
>>>>>> off back where you belong.
>>>>>
>>>>> lol #2
>>>>>
>>>>> So if "deceptive" equals "fuck off" in your world Deryl, what does
>>>>> "dishonest" equate to? Atm it looks like dinner at Fraudsters place.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>> Opining that being a raging hypocrite must be mandatory to join
>>>>> the Enablers.
>>>>>
>>>> For sure the *Enablers* are full on hypocrites!
>>>>
>>>
>>> isn't there something else we could discuss besides noddy and his
>>> cronies?
>>>
>>
>> how about the Great Climate Change Hoax ..
>> https://auslink.info/video/aj_climate.mp4
>>
>
> Jones is a far right cash for comment stooge and has been totally
> discredited for spreading misinformation.
>
> Climate change is real and not a hoax and even most of the original
> deniers have now accepted it's real after looking at the evidence.
> That we can slow it with EV's and wind farms is certainly open to
> debate though...
>
>

https://auslink.info/video/gw.mp4

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