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* The sound of Faragewilliamwright
+- Re: The sound of FarageJeff Gaines
+* Re: The sound of FarageWoody
|+* Re: The sound of FarageWilf
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||| |`* Re: The sound of FarageMark Carver
||| | `* [OT] Re: The sound of FarageSn!pe
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||| |         +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageWilf
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||| |                     |`- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
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||| |                       +* Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJim Lesurf
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||| |                       | `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJim Lesurf
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||| |                       | `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
||| |                       `- Re: [OT] Re: The sound of FarageR. Mark Clayton
||| `* Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
|||  `* Re: The sound of FarageWilf
|||   +* Re: The sound of Faragewilliamwright
|||   |+* Re: The sound of FarageJava Jive
|||   |`- Re: The sound of FarageMB
|||   `- Re: The sound of FarageJNugent
||`- Re: The sound of FarageR. Mark Clayton
|`* Re: The sound of Faragewilliamwright
+* Re: The sound of FarageBrian Gregory
`- Re: The sound of FarageR. Mark Clayton

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From: wrightsa...@f2s.com (williamwright)
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Subject: The sound of Farage
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 by: williamwright - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 00:48 UTC

Farage on GB News. The sounds from all the remote interviews was fine,
but from the studio it was terrible. It was badly out of sync, there was
distortion on peaks, no top, too much bottom, and an odd room resonance.
At the start of Part 2, for just a few seconds there was good sound, in
sync, but with the bad sound on top of it and louder, and a second or so
behind.
Bill

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From: jgaines_...@yahoo.co.uk (Jeff Gaines)
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Subject: Re: The sound of Farage
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 by: Jeff Gaines - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 08:35 UTC

On 08/03/2022 in message <j8nnf0Fs76aU1@mid.individual.net> williamwright
wrote:

>no top, too much bottom

We've all had girl friends like that :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
I take full responsibility for what happened - that is why the person that
was responsible went immediately.
(Gordon Brown, April 2009)

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From: harroga...@ntlworld.com (Woody)
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 by: Woody - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 09:45 UTC

On Tue 08/03/2022 00:48, williamwright wrote:
> Farage on GB News. The sounds from all the remote interviews was fine,
> but from the studio it was terrible. It was badly out of sync, there was
> distortion on peaks, no top, too much bottom, and an odd room resonance.
> At the start of Part 2, for just a few seconds there was good sound, in
> sync, but with the bad sound on top of it and louder, and a second or so
> behind.

He said right at the beginning that for reasons he would not go into he
was broadcasting from Spain yesterday evening. I guess they would have
use Zoom or something similar to save cost?

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 by: Wilf - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:38 UTC

On 08/03/2022 at 09:45, Woody wrote:
> On Tue 08/03/2022 00:48, williamwright wrote:
>> Farage on GB News. The sounds from all the remote interviews was fine,
>> but from the studio it was terrible. It was badly out of sync, there was
>> distortion on peaks, no top, too much bottom, and an odd room resonance.
>> At the start of Part 2, for just a few seconds there was good sound, in
>> sync, but with the bad sound on top of it and louder, and a second or so
>> behind.
>
>
>
> He said right at the beginning that for reasons he would not go into he
> was broadcasting from Spain yesterday evening. I guess they would have
> use Zoom or something similar to save cost?

Ugh. How can he be in Europe! Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
none of his business.

--
Wilf

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 by: Richard Tobin - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:42 UTC

In article <t07bnu$s8o$1@dont-email.me>, Wilf <wilf@postingx.uk> wrote:
>Ugh. How can he be in Europe! Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
>none of his business.

Or for tax reasons perhaps.

-- Richard

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 by: MB - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:52 UTC

On 08/03/2022 10:38, Wilf wrote:
> Ugh. How can he be in Europe! Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
> none of his business.

Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?

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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 12:28 UTC

On 08/03/2022 10:52, MB wrote:
>
> On 08/03/2022 10:38, Wilf wrote:
>>
>> Ugh.  How can he be in Europe!  Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
>> none of his business.

+1

> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?

Yes, when you've built your political career on lying about how awful it
is, despite it being where your ancestors came from.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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 by: Wilf - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:00 UTC

On 08/03/2022 at 10:52, MB wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 10:38, Wilf wrote:
>> Ugh. How can he be in Europe! Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
>> none of his business.
>
> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>

No, but he always claimed what an awful disgusting place it was.

--
Wilf

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 by: Wilf - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:00 UTC

On 08/03/2022 at 12:28, Java Jive wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 10:52, MB wrote:
>>
>> On 08/03/2022 10:38, Wilf wrote:
>>>
>>> Ugh.  How can he be in Europe!  Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
>>> none of his business.
>
> +1
>
>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>
> Yes, when you've built your political career on lying about how awful it
> is, despite it being where your ancestors came from.
>

+1

--
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 by: Andy Burns - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:12 UTC

Wilf wrote:

> MB wrote:
>
>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>
> No, but he always claimed what an awful disgusting place it was.

I don't remember him disparaging European countries or people, only the EU
institutions ...

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 by: Wilf - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:24 UTC

On 08/03/2022 at 14:12, Andy Burns wrote:
> Wilf wrote:
>
>> MB wrote:
>>
>>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>>
>> No, but he always claimed what an awful disgusting place it was.
>
> I don't remember him disparaging European countries or people, only the EU
> institutions ...

Whatever.

--
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 by: Robin - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:26 UTC

On 08/03/2022 12:28, Java Jive wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 10:52, MB wrote:
>>
>> On 08/03/2022 10:38, Wilf wrote:
>>>
>>> Ugh.  How can he be in Europe!  Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
>>> none of his business.
>
> +1
>
>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>
> Yes, when you've built your political career on lying about how awful it
> is, despite it being where your ancestors came from.
>

It's public knowledge that 2 of his great-great-grandparents came from
Germany but what's your source for the rest of his ancestry?

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

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 by: Mark Carver - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 15:10 UTC

On 08/03/2022 14:12, Andy Burns wrote:
> Wilf wrote:
>
>> MB wrote:
>>
>>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>>
>> No, but he always claimed what an awful disgusting place it was.
>
> I don't remember him disparaging European countries or people, only
> the EU institutions ...

You beat me to it, that's my recollection too,

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 by: Sn!pe - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 15:24 UTC

Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 08/03/2022 14:12, Andy Burns wrote:
> > Wilf wrote:
> >
> >> MB wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
> >>
> >> No, but he always claimed what an awful disgusting place it was.
> >
> > I don't remember him disparaging European countries or people, only
> > the EU institutions ...
>
> You beat me to it, that's my recollection too,

Exactly so. I belong to England, which is part of Great Britain,
which is part of Europe which contains the European nations.

None of that implies that I in any way owe allegiance to the
~political construct~ that is the undemocratic, unelected,
administered by patronage, unaccountable to its "subjects"
European Union. Oh dear me no, not at all.

tagged [OT]

--
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My pet rock Gordon just is.

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 by: MB - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 16:28 UTC

On 08/03/2022 15:24, Sn!pe wrote:
> Exactly so. I belong to England, which is part of Great Britain,
> which is part of Europe which contains the European nations.
>
> None of that implies that I in any way owe allegiance to the
> ~political construct~ that is the undemocratic, unelected,
> administered by patronage, unaccountable to its "subjects"
> European Union. Oh dear me no, not at all.

Many of the Europhiles have difficult distinguishing the EU from Europe
and often seem to think the terms are interchangeable.

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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 17:12 UTC

On 08/03/2022 14:26, Robin wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 12:28, Java Jive wrote:
>> On 08/03/2022 10:52, MB wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2022 10:38, Wilf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ugh.  How can he be in Europe!  Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
>>>> none of his business.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>>
>> Yes, when you've built your political career on lying about how awful
>> it is, despite it being where your ancestors came from.
>
> It's public knowledge that 2 of his great-great-grandparents came from
> Germany but what's your source for the rest of his ancestry?

Doubtless you can read Wikipedia as well as me. His is clearly not an
English name, and has been suggested to be French Huguenot in origin,
but even if it's just the two great-great-grandparents, that still makes
his lying about Europe somewhat hypocritical, don't you think?

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 17:23 UTC

On 08/03/2022 16:28, MB wrote:
>
> On 08/03/2022 15:24, Sn!pe wrote:
>>
>> Exactly so.  I belong to England, which is part of Great Britain,
>> which is part of Europe which contains the European nations.
>>
>> None of that implies that I in any way owe allegiance to the
>> ~political construct~ that is the undemocratic, unelected,
>> administered by patronage, unaccountable to its "subjects"
>> European Union.  Oh dear me no, not at all.

None of that implies that you have the right to repeat the above lies
about the EU yet again. Do yourself a favour, and learn how the EU
really works. It is as democratic, probably more so, than any
government in the UK.

This is how the EU actually works, either read and understand it, or, if
you can't be arsed, stop speaking out of your arse about things that you
can't be arsed to understand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_the_European_Parliament

> Many of the Europhiles have difficult distinguishing the EU from Europe
> and often seem to think the terms are interchangeable.

All Europhobes have difficulty in understanding the difference between
truth and lies.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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 by: williamwright - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 17:32 UTC

On 08/03/2022 09:45, Woody wrote:
> He said right at the beginning that for reasons he would not go into he
> was broadcasting from Spain yesterday evening. I guess they would have
> use Zoom or something similar to save cost?

Oh, I didn't hear that. It did sound as if they had a mike picking up
the sound from a crap telly!

Bill

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 by: R. Mark Clayton - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 18:26 UTC

On Tuesday, 8 March 2022 at 10:38:56 UTC, Wilf wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 at 09:45, Woody wrote:
> > On Tue 08/03/2022 00:48, williamwright wrote:
> >> Farage on GB News. The sounds from all the remote interviews was fine,
> >> but from the studio it was terrible. It was badly out of sync, there was
> >> distortion on peaks, no top, too much bottom, and an odd room resonance.
> >> At the start of Part 2, for just a few seconds there was good sound, in
> >> sync, but with the bad sound on top of it and louder, and a second or so
> >> behind.
> >
> >
> >
> > He said right at the beginning that for reasons he would not go into he
> > was broadcasting from Spain yesterday evening. I guess they would have
> > use Zoom or something similar to save cost?
> Ugh. How can he be in Europe! Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
> none of his business.
>
> --
> Wilf

He could have been in Gibraltar, not actually in Spain (yet), but in the Iberian peninsular.

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 by: Indy Jess John - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 20:52 UTC

On 08/03/2022 17:12, Java Jive wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 14:26, Robin wrote:
>> On 08/03/2022 12:28, Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 08/03/2022 10:52, MB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/03/2022 10:38, Wilf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ugh. How can he be in Europe! Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
>>>>> none of his business.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>>>
>>> Yes, when you've built your political career on lying about how awful
>>> it is, despite it being where your ancestors came from.
>>
>> It's public knowledge that 2 of his great-great-grandparents came from
>> Germany but what's your source for the rest of his ancestry?
>
> Doubtless you can read Wikipedia as well as me. His is clearly not an
> English name, and has been suggested to be French Huguenot in origin,
> but even if it's just the two great-great-grandparents, that still makes
> his lying about Europe somewhat hypocritical, don't you think?
>
He didn't lie about Europe, because his beef was with the EU and not the
member states themselves.

Jim

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 by: Indy Jess John - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 20:59 UTC

On 08/03/2022 17:23, Java Jive wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 16:28, MB wrote:
>>
>> On 08/03/2022 15:24, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>
>>> Exactly so. I belong to England, which is part of Great Britain,
>>> which is part of Europe which contains the European nations.
>>>
>>> None of that implies that I in any way owe allegiance to the
>>> ~political construct~ that is the undemocratic, unelected,
>>> administered by patronage, unaccountable to its "subjects"
>>> European Union. Oh dear me no, not at all.
>
> None of that implies that you have the right to repeat the above lies
> about the EU yet again. Do yourself a favour, and learn how the EU
> really works. It is as democratic, probably more so, than any
> government in the UK.

The man in the street elects the MPs who form the Parliament from which
is drawn the UK Government. The UK Parliament can develop policy.

The Man in the street elects MEPs who form the European Parliament. The
European Parliament cannot develop policy, it can only discuss and vote
on policies presented to them by the European Commission.

Spot the difference?

Jim

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 by: Robin - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 20:59 UTC

On 08/03/2022 17:12, Java Jive wrote:
> On 08/03/2022 14:26, Robin wrote:
>> On 08/03/2022 12:28, Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 08/03/2022 10:52, MB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/03/2022 10:38, Wilf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ugh.  How can he be in Europe!  Except maybe to stir up trouble that's
>>>>> none of his business.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>> Do you now have to swear allegiance to the EU to visit "Europe"?
>>>
>>> Yes, when you've built your political career on lying about how awful
>>> it is, despite it being where your ancestors came from.
>>
>> It's public knowledge that 2 of his great-great-grandparents came from
>> Germany but what's your source for the rest of his ancestry?
>
> Doubtless you can read Wikipedia as well as me.  His is clearly not an
> English name, and has been suggested to be French Huguenot in origin,
> but even if it's just the two great-great-grandparents, that still makes
> his lying about Europe somewhat hypocritical, don't you think?

You made a a plain statement of fact as to his ancestors which you
cannot now back up.

The possible Huguenot origin of the name is irrelevant. It should be
obvious to the meanest intellect that a surname may be inherited from a
person who makes up a tiny fraction of his ancestry from 300 years ago.

And no, I don't agree that it's OK for you to lie about someone just
because you don't like his views. (Also, while I am no fan of his, like
others that I recall him slagging of EU institutions, leaders and
officials but not countries or peoples or the whole continent.)

But I do hate hypocrisy.

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 21:46 UTC

On 08/03/2022 20:52, Indy Jess John wrote:
>
> On 08/03/2022 17:12, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> Doubtless you can read Wikipedia as well as me.  His is clearly not an
>> English name, and has been suggested to be French Huguenot in origin,
>> but even if it's just the two great-great-grandparents, that still makes
>> his lying about Europe somewhat hypocritical, don't you think?
>
> He didn't lie about Europe, because his beef was with the EU and not the
> member states themselves.

The EU is part of Europe, so in lying about the EU, he is inevitably
lying about Europe as well.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 21:52 UTC

On 08/03/2022 20:59, Robin wrote:
>
> On 08/03/2022 17:12, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> Doubtless you can read Wikipedia as well as me.  His is clearly not an
>> English name, and has been suggested to be French Huguenot in origin,
>> but even if it's just the two great-great-grandparents, that still
>> makes his lying about Europe somewhat hypocritical, don't you think?
>
> You made a a plain statement of fact as to his ancestors which you
> cannot now back up.

Nonsense, you yourself have admitted them to exist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage#Ancestry_and_childhood

> The possible Huguenot origin of the name is irrelevant. It should be
> obvious to the meanest intellect that a surname may be inherited from a
> person who makes up a tiny fraction of his ancestry from 300 years ago.

A *minimum* of 2 x great great grandparents is 2 / 2^4 which is 1/8, not
a tiny fraction of his ancestry.

> And no, I don't agree that it's OK for you to lie about someone just
> because you don't like his views.

I didn't lie, as you yourself admitted up thread.

> (Also, while I am no fan of his, like
> others that I recall him slagging of EU institutions, leaders and
> officials but not countries or peoples or the whole continent.)

The EU is part of Europe, so in lying about the EU, he is inevitably
lying about Europe as well.

> But I do hate hypocrisy.

Don't look in a mirror then.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

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 by: Java Jive - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 21:59 UTC

On 08/03/2022 20:59, Indy Jess John wrote:
>
> On 08/03/2022 17:23, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 08/03/2022 16:28, MB wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2022 15:24, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> None of that implies that I in any way owe allegiance to the
>>>> ~political construct~ that is the undemocratic, unelected,
>>>> administered by patronage, unaccountable to its "subjects"
>>>> European Union.  Oh dear me no, not at all.
>>
>> None of that implies that you have the right to repeat the above lies
>> about the EU yet again.  Do yourself a favour, and learn how the EU
>> really works.  It is as democratic, probably more so, than any
>> government in the UK.
>
> The man in the street elects the MPs who form the Parliament from which
> is drawn the UK Government.  The UK Parliament can develop policy.
>
> The Man in the street elects MEPs who form the European Parliament. The
> European Parliament cannot develop policy, it can only discuss and vote
> on policies presented to them by the European Commission.

Nonsense, reread the links given, which I note that you've snipped. The
Commission is the EU's equivalent of our civil service, and as such it
is responsible for drafting legislation requested by the democratically
elected European Parliament, and by the European Council, which itself
is composed of the democratically elected leaders of member nations. If
this is somehow undemocratic, how come you're not complaining that our
civil service is not democratically elected?

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