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MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0749 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "A sinner is not a
believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin. No sinner is sinless in any
way.

In spiritual places, stop declaring and claiming you have no sin.

If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not
born again and can't see the Kingdom of God."

MAXIMUS <GLADIATOR@COLOSSEUM.ROME> @ 1041 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "A
sinner is a believer in God because by definition sin is transgression of
DIVINE LAW."

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1324 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "So, you are
innocent?

I find that hard to believe."

DOLF @ 1358 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "You are doing well, the devils also
believe and tremble: "BLESSED IS THE MAN TO WHOM THE LORD WILL NOT IMPUTE
*SIN*-G266." [Romans 4:8]

#453 = #451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY + #2 - FULL CIRCLE (FULL CIRCLE) as
[#1, #40, #1, #100, #300, #10, #1] = hamartía (G266): {UMBRA: #453 % #41 =
#2} 1) equivalent to 264; 1a) to be without a share in; 1b) to miss the
mark; 1c) to err, be mistaken; 1d) to miss or wander from the path of
uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong; 1e) to wander from the law of
God, violate God's law, sin; 2) that which is done wrong, sin, an offence,
*A* *VIOLATION* *OF* *THE* *DIVINE* *LAW* *IN* *THOUGHT* *OR* *IN* *ACT*;
3) collectively, the complex or aggregate of sins committed either by a
single person or by many;

BUT WILT THOU KNOW, O VAIN MAN, THAT FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD? FOR AS
THE BODY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT IS DEAD, SO FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD ALSO."
[James 2:19-20, 26]

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1450 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "That is the man
who loves God with all their heart, soul, and mind.

Are you that man, Dolf?"

DOLF @ 1512 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "The use of the spelling stagnum as
a form of stannum (“tin”) is unattested before Pliny (23-79 CE). Tin has an
Atomic Number 50 and symbol Sn."

MICHAEL CHRIST <MICHAELMCLEAN2021@OUTLOOK.COM> @ 1610 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY
2024: "So, you are able to answer the question?"

DOLF @ 1657 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "We've proven our gospel is true and
yours is not as false.

The only thing saving you is ignorance since you cannot read beyond one
line and realise your reputation is for all eternity stained.

I'm going to now include your email address so that we may at the time of
our closing, take to you court for public slander."

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1755 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "Just look at
you carry on about a simple question, and try to obscure yourself with
nonsense!

If you can't even stand up in front of me, what hope is your religion got
of standing before God?"

DOLF @ 1809 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "It ought to be self apparent from
the IMAGO DEI evidence provided to you for over 20 years that my justified
and sanctified relationship with GOD is established upon a different
hypostasis than yours, by which cause you slander.

Ignorance is no excuse before the law."

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1826 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "You can't keep
the law, Buddy.

If you don't even know that, what hope have you got?

Now, have a real man go... Or are you going to run away by trying to
obscure yourself in gibberish and feigned abuse again?"

DOLF @ 1847 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "The notion is HYPOSTASIS and since
you are unacquainted with such (ie. YOUR GOD / CHRIST IS ESTABLISHED UPON A
DIFFERENT HYPOSTASIS), I have included the broad definition:

PHILOSOPHY: an underlying reality or substance, as opposed to attributes or
to that which lacks substance.

THEOLOGY: (in Trinitarian doctrine) each of the three persons of the
Trinity, as contrasted with the unity of the Godhead and the single person
of Christ, as contrasted with his dual human and divine nature.

Try again and try not to use a straw man... but do you first need a formal
caution about your #68 - RIGHTS in conformity with the law or are you going
to plead mental incompetence within any legal action?"

TED [SAM THE MAN] <TED.STREET@GMAIL.COM> @ 0815 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024:
"Is it okay if I email you, MX?"

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0816 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "So, in terms of
logic, just plain reality (non-emotional), I understand fully why you would
turn your back on the asshole sinner Xtian religionist Pharisees, the
pretenders of righteousness with bibles in their hands, but why did you
turn your back on God?

I will respect your answer, as I am sure you know by now, but can you or do
you have an answer?"

DOLF @ 0850 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "So you have no answer over
reasonable meta logic concerns that your BIPARTITE #1080 - HETEROS NUMBER
HYPOSTASIS which has a #540 - JUPITER PRINCIPLE (#666) as artifice that is
unrelated to the COGITA stratum as TRIPARTITE NUMBER notion of the
GODHEAD?"

TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0854 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "At first it was
because I finally came to realize that [YOUR] God gives every indication of
being a despicable prick. But I've also long understood that there isn't
much we can say about [YOUR] God because we're so infinitesimally
insignificant in comparison. So I can't be an atheist. But I also soon
understood that [YOUR STOICHEION AIR 💨, FIRE 🔥 , WATER 💧 OF THE KOSMOS]
YAHWEH was just made up." ([...] - inclusions mine @ 0910 HOURS)

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0917 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Well, as far as
I am concerned, atheists don't exist anyway, but I do use the term in a
contemporary sense. I am saying that I could use the word "gay" to mean
what it really means, but I go along with the consensus meaning as the
means of relating to people in the place where they are.

Y'know, when in Rome."

TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0854 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "And that [YOUR EARTH
🌍 BORN] Jesus was just a fellow who got himself ['N'AILED] a long time
ago." ([...] - inclusions mine @ 0910 HOURS)

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0917 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Okay. It is
tempting to go on but I'll leave it there."

DOLF @ 0730 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "The problem of YANG / YIN
INTERCOURSE (eg: ANKH as our comments above convey) is a question of #365 -
LUO SHU (SKY FATHER) / #364 - CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY (EARTH MOTHER)
DEPENDENCY by western philosophy and like the cat 🐈‍⬛ chasing a meandering
light, have no idea that the CHANGES RUG OF CONSCIOUS REALITY can be pulled
out from underneath them at any time.

We have therefore no need for your divination of luck 🍀"

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1027 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "[Sure]. And I
don't have to be abused by your perverted keyboard cowboyism."

TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0938 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Thanks man. I'm Sam."

DOLF @ 1052 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "That's very Roman Catholic TIN MAN
as is your cock and bull gospel."

A revision of this document may be obtained from the following URL:

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Gnosis%20Ex%20Machina%20Moral%20Code.pdf>

Revision Date: 15 February 2024

Ted <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 15/02/2024 9:26 am, Ted wrote:
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/02/2024 8:54 am, Ted wrote:
>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/02/2024 3:30 am, Ted wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/02/2024 4:02 am, Jack Sovalot wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2024 6:47 am, Jack Sovalot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2024 6:18 am, Jaye Elke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 05:02:12 +1100, Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, all of Christendom concedes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that all their congregants remain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuing sinners, so why not have gay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What difference does it make? Isn't it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abuse to allow a straight sinner to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistreat a gay sinner?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a difference between one continuing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinner who sins and another continuing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinner who sins?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, hypocrisy and bigotry is alive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and well in sinner Christianity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So then, does God accept the gay lifestyle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Jesus was gay, and God Himself reveals
>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocacy of homosexuality in the OT. Read Keith
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpe's The Gay Gospels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at that book recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is pure crap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All it does is channel personal sexual preference
>>>>>>>>>>>> by massaging words and meanings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Typical of sinner Christianity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know of anybody who takes that book
>>>>>>>>>>> seriously.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Except me. :-).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We disagree on many things about it, but it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> seem to matter with you. And the reason might
>>>>>>>>>> surprise you. It is because you are the closest thing
>>>>>>>>>> to a pure atheist here. Whereas, people like Holman,
>>>>>>>>>> JWS, Dawny Poo, Mycock, Tim, and even Kevrob and
>>>>>>>>>> others are mere pretenders and are not atheists at
>>>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice of you to say, MX, thanks, although I don't really
>>>>>>>>> consider myself to be an atheist (despite Christopher
>>>>>>>>> Lee's insistence that I was).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't agree with Lee if my ass was on fire, except in
>>>>>>>> this instance. Being an unbeliever (AKA an atheist) has
>>>>>>>> nothing to do with words, terminology, or even thoughts;
>>>>>>>> it is a heart decision to reject Him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, what bothers God a hell of a lot more is a
>>>>>>>> person who likes to try and sit in a middle ground (e.g.,
>>>>>>>> lukewarm). All these pretend atheists sit in the middle
>>>>>>>> ground. Take someone like Bertrand Russell. When he was
>>>>>>>> asked if he found out when he died that there was a God,
>>>>>>>> what would he say to Him? "There wasn't enough proof."
>>>>>>>> Therefore, he's entertaining the option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Middle ground, in other words. As with Hitchens (dead),
>>>>>>>> Dawkins, etc., Sam Harris is a little more far left than
>>>>>>>> them but still the same. By the way, even Erhman is
>>>>>>>> middle ground.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, Timmy the faggot is definitely middle ground. :-).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are not middle ground, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks MX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>> of the things I like about you is that I agree with
>>>>>>>>> most of your sig (from a Christian perspective). And
>>>>>>>>> I'd never before met any other Christian whose thoughts
>>>>>>>>> were so similar to mine back when I was a christer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why didn't you go on then, because God would have taken
>>>>>>>> you through and out of the religion shit, like me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What stopped you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am intrigued because I often wonder why people do not
>>>>>>>> choose God? Most people think that if they reject God
>>>>>>>> that it makes Him angry; it does not. He gave people a
>>>>>>>> choice, and what, if they do not choose Him He stamps
>>>>>>>> around like a spoilt schoolboy that doesn't get His way?
>>>>>>>> No, a free choice is a free choice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course God isn't a petty little shit who gets pist at
>>>>>>> people who don't believe in him. But somehow, that's what
>>>>>>> they seem to think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hence...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rev_3:16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither
>>>>>>>> cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is why the Lord Jesus was so pissed off with the
>>>>>>>> Pharisees (lukewarm), but the prostitutes and the tax
>>>>>>>> collectors, well, He ate and drank with them and probably
>>>>>>>> had a scotch or two.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guess where the sinner Christians sit. :-).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. As it was 2000 years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks MX.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, in terms of logic, just plain reality (non-emotional), I
>>>>>> understand fully why you would turn your back on the asshole
>>>>>> sinner Xtian religionist Pharisees, the pretenders of
>>>>>> righteousness with bibles in their hands, but why did you turn
>>>>>> your back on God?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will respect your answer, as I am sure you know by now, but
>>>>>> can you or do you have an answer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At first it was because I finally came to realize that God gives
>>>>> every indication of being a despicable prick. But I've also long
>>>>> understood that there isn't much we can say about God because
>>>>> we're so infinitesimally insignificant in comparison. So I
>>>>> can't be an atheist.
>>>>
>>>> Well, as far as I am concerned, atheists don't exist anyway, but
>>>> I do use the term in a contemporary sense. I am saying that I
>>>> could use the word "gay" to mean what it really means, but I go
>>>> along with the consensus meaning as the means of relating to
>>>> people in the place where they are.
>>>>
>>>> Y'know, when in Rome.
>>>>
>>>>> But I also soon undersood that Yahweh was just made up. And that
>>>>> Jesus was just a fellow who got himself killed a long time ago.
>>>>
>>>> Okay. It is tempting to go on but I'll leave it there.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it okay if I email you?
>>
>
>> Sure.
>
>
>
> Thanks man. I'm Sam.
>


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dolf wrote:
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0749 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "A sinner is not a
> believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin. No sinner is sinless in any
> way.
>
> In spiritual places, stop declaring and claiming you have no sin.
>
> If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not
> born again and can't see the Kingdom of God."
>
> MAXIMUS <GLADIATOR@COLOSSEUM.ROME> @ 1041 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "A
> sinner is a believer in God because by definition sin is transgression of
> DIVINE LAW."
>
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1324 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "So, you are
> innocent?
>
> I find that hard to believe."
>
> DOLF @ 1358 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "You are doing well, the devils also
> believe and tremble: "BLESSED IS THE MAN TO WHOM THE LORD WILL NOT IMPUTE
> *SIN*-G266." [Romans 4:8]
>
> #453 = #451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY + #2 - FULL CIRCLE (FULL CIRCLE) as
> [#1, #40, #1, #100, #300, #10, #1] = hamartía (G266): {UMBRA: #453 % #41 =
> #2} 1) equivalent to 264; 1a) to be without a share in; 1b) to miss the
> mark; 1c) to err, be mistaken; 1d) to miss or wander from the path of
> uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong; 1e) to wander from the law of
> God, violate God's law, sin; 2) that which is done wrong, sin, an offence,
> *A* *VIOLATION* *OF* *THE* *DIVINE* *LAW* *IN* *THOUGHT* *OR* *IN* *ACT*;
> 3) collectively, the complex or aggregate of sins committed either by a
> single person or by many;
>
> BUT WILT THOU KNOW, O VAIN MAN, THAT FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD? FOR AS
> THE BODY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT IS DEAD, SO FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD ALSO."
> [James 2:19-20, 26]
>
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1450 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "That is the man
> who loves God with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>
> Are you that man, Dolf?"
>
> DOLF @ 1512 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "The use of the spelling stagnum as
> a form of stannum (“tin”) is unattested before Pliny (23-79 CE). Tin has an
> Atomic Number 50 and symbol Sn."
>
> MICHAEL CHRIST <MICHAELMCLEAN2021@OUTLOOK.COM> @ 1610 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY
> 2024: "So, you are able to answer the question?"
>
> DOLF @ 1657 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "We've proven our gospel is true and
> yours is not as false.
>
> The only thing saving you is ignorance since you cannot read beyond one
> line and realise your reputation is for all eternity stained.
>
> I'm going to now include your email address so that we may at the time of
> our closing, take to you court for public slander."
>
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1755 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "Just look at
> you carry on about a simple question, and try to obscure yourself with
> nonsense!
>
> If you can't even stand up in front of me, what hope is your religion got
> of standing before God?"
>
> DOLF @ 1809 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "It ought to be self apparent from
> the IMAGO DEI evidence provided to you for over 20 years that my justified
> and sanctified relationship with GOD is established upon a different
> hypostasis than yours, by which cause you slander.
>
> Ignorance is no excuse before the law."
>
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1826 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "You can't keep
> the law, Buddy.
>
> If you don't even know that, what hope have you got?
>
> Now, have a real man go... Or are you going to run away by trying to
> obscure yourself in gibberish and feigned abuse again?"
>
> DOLF @ 1847 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "The notion is HYPOSTASIS and since
> you are unacquainted with such (ie. YOUR GOD / CHRIST IS ESTABLISHED UPON A
> DIFFERENT HYPOSTASIS), I have included the broad definition:
>
> PHILOSOPHY: an underlying reality or substance, as opposed to attributes or
> to that which lacks substance.
>
> THEOLOGY: (in Trinitarian doctrine) each of the three persons of the
> Trinity, as contrasted with the unity of the Godhead and the single person
> of Christ, as contrasted with his dual human and divine nature.
>
> Try again and try not to use a straw man... but do you first need a formal
> caution about your #68 - RIGHTS in conformity with the law or are you going
> to plead mental incompetence within any legal action?"
>
> TED [SAM THE MAN] <TED.STREET@GMAIL.COM> @ 0815 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024:
> "Is it okay if I email you, MX?"
>
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0816 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "So, in terms of
> logic, just plain reality (non-emotional), I understand fully why you would
> turn your back on the asshole sinner Xtian religionist Pharisees, the
> pretenders of righteousness with bibles in their hands, but why did you
> turn your back on God?
>
> I will respect your answer, as I am sure you know by now, but can you or do
> you have an answer?"
>
> DOLF @ 0850 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "So you have no answer over
> reasonable meta logic concerns that your BIPARTITE #1080 - HETEROS NUMBER
> HYPOSTASIS which has a #540 - JUPITER PRINCIPLE (#666) as artifice that is
> unrelated to the COGITA stratum as TRIPARTITE NUMBER notion of the
> GODHEAD?"
>
> TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0854 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "At first it was
> because I finally came to realize that [YOUR] God gives every indication of
> being a despicable prick. But I've also long understood that there isn't
> much we can say about [YOUR] God because we're so infinitesimally
> insignificant in comparison. So I can't be an atheist. But I also soon
> understood that [YOUR STOICHEION AIR 💨, FIRE 🔥 , WATER 💧 OF THE KOSMOS]
> YAHWEH was just made up." ([...] - inclusions mine @ 0910 HOURS)
>
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0917 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Well, as far as
> I am concerned, atheists don't exist anyway, but I do use the term in a
> contemporary sense. I am saying that I could use the word "gay" to mean
> what it really means, but I go along with the consensus meaning as the
> means of relating to people in the place where they are.
>
> Y'know, when in Rome."
>
> TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0854 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "And that [YOUR EARTH
> 🌍 BORN] Jesus was just a fellow who got himself ['N'AILED] a long time
> ago." ([...] - inclusions mine @ 0910 HOURS)
>
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0917 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Okay. It is
> tempting to go on but I'll leave it there."
>
> DOLF @ 0730 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "The problem of YANG / YIN
> INTERCOURSE (eg: ANKH as our comments above convey) is a question of #365 -
> LUO SHU (SKY FATHER) / #364 - CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY (EARTH MOTHER)
> DEPENDENCY by western philosophy and like the cat 🐈‍⬛ chasing a meandering
> light, have no idea that the CHANGES RUG OF CONSCIOUS REALITY can be pulled
> out from underneath them at any time.
>
> We have therefore no need for your divination of luck 🍀"
>
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1027 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "[Sure]. And I
> don't have to be abused by your perverted keyboard cowboyism."
>
> TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0938 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Thanks man. I'm Sam."
>
> DOLF @ 1052 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "That's very Roman Catholic TIN MAN
> as is your cock and bull gospel."
>
> A revision of this document may be obtained from the following URL:
>
> <http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Gnosis%20Ex%20Machina%20Moral%20Code.pdf>
>
>
> Revision Date: 15 February 2024
>
> Ted <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/02/2024 9:26 am, Ted wrote:
>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/02/2024 8:54 am, Ted wrote:
>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15/02/2024 3:30 am, Ted wrote:
>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13/02/2024 4:02 am, Jack Sovalot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2024 6:47 am, Jack Sovalot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2024 6:18 am, Jaye Elke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 05:02:12 +1100, Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, all of Christendom concedes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that all their congregants remain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuing sinners, so why not have gay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What difference does it make? Isn't it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abuse to allow a straight sinner to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistreat a gay sinner?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a difference between one continuing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinner who sins and another continuing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinner who sins?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, hypocrisy and bigotry is alive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and well in sinner Christianity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So then, does God accept the gay lifestyle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Jesus was gay, and God Himself reveals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocacy of homosexuality in the OT. Read Keith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpe's The Gay Gospels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at that book recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is pure crap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All it does is channel personal sexual preference
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by massaging words and meanings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Typical of sinner Christianity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know of anybody who takes that book
>>>>>>>>>>>> seriously.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Except me. :-).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We disagree on many things about it, but it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> seem to matter with you. And the reason might
>>>>>>>>>>> surprise you. It is because you are the closest thing
>>>>>>>>>>> to a pure atheist here. Whereas, people like Holman,
>>>>>>>>>>> JWS, Dawny Poo, Mycock, Tim, and even Kevrob and
>>>>>>>>>>> others are mere pretenders and are not atheists at
>>>>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nice of you to say, MX, thanks, although I don't really
>>>>>>>>>> consider myself to be an atheist (despite Christopher
>>>>>>>>>> Lee's insistence that I was).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't agree with Lee if my ass was on fire, except in
>>>>>>>>> this instance. Being an unbeliever (AKA an atheist) has
>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with words, terminology, or even thoughts;
>>>>>>>>> it is a heart decision to reject Him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, what bothers God a hell of a lot more is a
>>>>>>>>> person who likes to try and sit in a middle ground (e.g.,
>>>>>>>>> lukewarm). All these pretend atheists sit in the middle
>>>>>>>>> ground. Take someone like Bertrand Russell. When he was
>>>>>>>>> asked if he found out when he died that there was a God,
>>>>>>>>> what would he say to Him? "There wasn't enough proof."
>>>>>>>>> Therefore, he's entertaining the option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Middle ground, in other words. As with Hitchens (dead),
>>>>>>>>> Dawkins, etc., Sam Harris is a little more far left than
>>>>>>>>> them but still the same. By the way, even Erhman is
>>>>>>>>> middle ground.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, Timmy the faggot is definitely middle ground. :-).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are not middle ground, though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks MX.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>>> of the things I like about you is that I agree with
>>>>>>>>>> most of your sig (from a Christian perspective). And
>>>>>>>>>> I'd never before met any other Christian whose thoughts
>>>>>>>>>> were so similar to mine back when I was a christer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why didn't you go on then, because God would have taken
>>>>>>>>> you through and out of the religion shit, like me?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What stopped you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am intrigued because I often wonder why people do not
>>>>>>>>> choose God? Most people think that if they reject God
>>>>>>>>> that it makes Him angry; it does not. He gave people a
>>>>>>>>> choice, and what, if they do not choose Him He stamps
>>>>>>>>> around like a spoilt schoolboy that doesn't get His way?
>>>>>>>>> No, a free choice is a free choice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course God isn't a petty little shit who gets pist at
>>>>>>>> people who don't believe in him. But somehow, that's what
>>>>>>>> they seem to think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hence...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rev_3:16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither
>>>>>>>>> cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is why the Lord Jesus was so pissed off with the
>>>>>>>>> Pharisees (lukewarm), but the prostitutes and the tax
>>>>>>>>> collectors, well, He ate and drank with them and probably
>>>>>>>>> had a scotch or two.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Guess where the sinner Christians sit. :-).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. As it was 2000 years ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks MX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, in terms of logic, just plain reality (non-emotional), I
>>>>>>> understand fully why you would turn your back on the asshole
>>>>>>> sinner Xtian religionist Pharisees, the pretenders of
>>>>>>> righteousness with bibles in their hands, but why did you turn
>>>>>>> your back on God?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will respect your answer, as I am sure you know by now, but
>>>>>>> can you or do you have an answer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At first it was because I finally came to realize that God gives
>>>>>> every indication of being a despicable prick. But I've also long
>>>>>> understood that there isn't much we can say about God because
>>>>>> we're so infinitesimally insignificant in comparison. So I
>>>>>> can't be an atheist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, as far as I am concerned, atheists don't exist anyway, but
>>>>> I do use the term in a contemporary sense. I am saying that I
>>>>> could use the word "gay" to mean what it really means, but I go
>>>>> along with the consensus meaning as the means of relating to
>>>>> people in the place where they are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Y'know, when in Rome.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But I also soon undersood that Yahweh was just made up. And that
>>>>>> Jesus was just a fellow who got himself killed a long time ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay. It is tempting to go on but I'll leave it there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Christ
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it okay if I email you?
>>>
>>
>>> Sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks man. I'm Sam.
>>
>
>
>


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dolf wrote:
> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0749 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "A sinner is not a
> believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin. No sinner is sinless in any
> way.
>
> In spiritual places, stop declaring and claiming you have no sin.
>
> If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not
> born again and can't see the Kingdom of God."
>

As an atheist, Ash Wednesday service is the only one I like "from dust
we came and to dust we return". Plus getting ash on the forehead seemed
a pretty cool ritual as a kid.

Pentecostals don't do Ash Wednesday, that is why they suck.

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MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1323 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Obviously, that
is a no. [bù xíng (不行): BE OUT OF THE QUESTION; NOT BE CAPABLE]

Thus, you[r] phallus worship is directly attributed to your illegal abuse
of those who are not in your religion of *EJACULATORY* *UTTERING* *OF*
*TINNY* *SOUNDING* *DECIBELS*. Amen."

DOLF @ 1647 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: “LORD, EVEN THE DEVILS ARE SUBJECT
UNTO US THROUGH THY NAME.” [Luke 10:17]

As guardian angel and prince of Rome, #131 = *SAMAEL* (HEBREW: סַמָּאֵל:
VENOM / POISON OF GOD) as TETRA [#1 - *FASCISM* *IS* *A* *RETURN* *TO*
*THE* *ANCIENT* *TRADITIONS* *OF* *ROME*, #5 - *STATE* *IS* *ROME’S*
*GREATEST* *POLITICAL* *INVENTION*, #32 - *MY* *NAME* *IS* *LEGION* … Mark
5:9-13; Luke 8:30-33; Matthew 8:28-33] is the archenemy of Israel as a
figure who is the *ACCUSER* or adversary (SATAN in the Book of Job),
seducer, and Destroying angel (in the Book of Exodus). By the beginning of
Jewish culture in Europe, #131 = *SAMAEL* had been established as a
REPRESENTATIVE OF CHRISTIANITY (#297 / #371), due to his identification
with Rome.

#87 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#2, #20, #5, #50, #10] /
#93 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#2, #20, #5, #50, #10, #6] /
    #96 - NOUMENON RESONANCE FOR 15 FEBRUARY 2024 as [#6, #20, #5, #50,
#10, #5] /
#693 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#6, #2, #20, #5, #50, #10, #600] =
kôhên (H3548): {UMBRA: #75 % #41 = #34} 1) *PRIEST*, *PRINCIPAL* *OFFICER*
*OR* *CHIEF* *RULER*; 1a) priest-king (Melchizedek, Messiah); 1b) pagan
priests; 1c) priests of Jehovah; 1d) Levitical priests; 1e) Zadokite
priests; 1f) Aaronic priests; 1g) *THE* *HIGH* *PRIEST*;

YOUTUBE: "THE POPE'S EXORCIST - OFFICIAL TRAILER (14 APRIL 2023)"

<https://youtu.be/qzqDqeDyt2U?feature=shared&t=53s>

THE POPE: “THERE IS A CASE THAT NEEDS YOUR ATTENTION.”

PAWN (*PION*): "BRING ME THE PRIEST"

THE #298 – *RAVEN*: "THE VATICAN (ie. the film is a Jesuit production)
COVERED IT UP

WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY"

PAWN (*PION*): "YOU'VE BEEN PLAYED

YOU TOOK THE *BAIT*..."

#1226 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#6, #30, #300, #70, #10, #200, #10,
#600] /
#970 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#300, #70, #200, #400] = sâʻîyr
(H8163): {UMBRA: #580 % #41 = #6} 1) hairy; 2) he-goat, buck; 2a) as
sacrificial animal; 2b) *SATYR*, *MAY* *REFER* *TO* *A* *DEMON* *POSSESSED*
*GOAT* *LIKE* *THE* *SWINE* *OF* *GADARA* (Mt. 8:30-32);

#1003 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #274 as [#40, #50, #8, #40, #5, #10, #800,
#50] = mnēmeîon (G3419): {UMBRA: #273 % #41 = #27} 1) any visible object
for preserving or recalling the memory of any person or thing; 1a) *A*
*MEMORIAL*, *MONUMENT*, *SPECIFICALLY*, *A* *SEPULCHRAL* *MONUMENT*; 2) a
sepulchre, a tomb;

#355 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#5, #70, #80, #200] = ʻâphâr (H6083):
{UMBRA: #350 % #41 = #22} 1) dry earth, dust, powder, *ASHES*, earth,
ground, mortar, rubbish; 1a) dry or loose earth; 1b) *DEBRIS*; 1c) mortar;
1d) ore;

The poison here is related to the fishbone (鯁) as BLUNT / UNYIELDING SPEECH
which is stuck in the throat as to whether this relates to the unique 4 day
aggregation within the JEWISH #72 - SACRED NAME SCHEMA as the CATEGORICAL
IMPERATIVE #PE - MOUTH / #80 - LABOURING (CH'IN) and a SYSTEMATIC SYMPTOM
(ie. baited on a hook) underpinning the BIPARTITE NUMBER / COURSE OF NATURE
as its incursion upon the GODHEAD that is anchored to TETRA #81 - SOLSTICE
MIDNIGHT 21 DECEMBER 104 BCE (103 BCE if no #0 CE year) which is
nonetheless consistent with the Chinese expression: gǔ gěng zài hóu (骨鯁在喉):
FISH BONE STUCK IN ONE'S THROAT FIGURATIVELY: TO FEEL OBLIGED TO SPEAK OUT
CANDIDLY WHAT IS ON ONE'S MIND...

Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote:
> dolf wrote:
>> MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0749 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "A sinner is not a
>> believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin. No sinner is sinless in any
>> way.
>>
>> In spiritual places, stop declaring and claiming you have no sin.
>>
>> If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not
>> born again and can't see the Kingdom of God."
>>
>
> As an atheist, Ash Wednesday service is the only one I like "from dust
> we came and to dust we return". Plus getting ash on the forehead seemed
> a pretty cool ritual as a kid.
>
> Pentecostals don't do Ash Wednesday, that is why they suck.
>

MICHAEL NYLAN (BERKELEY.EDU) @ 0418 HOURS ON 12 FEBRUARY 2024: "Sorry, I,
too, participated in Sept. 11.

Your aggressiveness does not mean that I need to continue the
conversation."

YOUTUBE: "EYE OF THE NEEDLE (SIA)"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kg0EdD7tzE>

"AND YOU'RE LOCKED INSIDE MY HEART
AND YOUR MELODY'S AN ART
AND I WON'T LET THE TERROR IN
I'M STEALING TIME THROUGH THE EYE (#6000 [146,097 days] % 22 = 13 SEPTEMBER
2001) OF THE NEEDLE"

<http://www.grapple369.com/Savvy/?male:223&feme:157&ontic:157&deme:249&lexicon:H3826,H6030,H4172,H2166,H5869>

{@4: Sup: 33 - CLOSENESS: MI (#223); Ego: 6 - CONTRARIETY: LI (#157 - I AM
NOT ONE OF PRATING TONGUE {%17} / I HAVE NO STRONG DESIRE EXCEPT FOR MY OWN
PROPERTY {%41})}

ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #157

DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #249

DOLF @ 0859 HOURS ON 12 FEBRUARY 2024: "As you'd know: "TIME IS WHAT CANNOT
BE OVERCOME" since it has DOMINION over every person.

    #295 - NOUMENON RESONANCE FOR 11 FEBRUARY 2024 as [#20, #200, #60, #10,
#5] = korçêʼ (H3764): {UMBRA: #281 % #41 = #35} 1) *THRONE*, royal chair;

But I can both TIME / NOUMENON RESONANCE as MIND / SOUL with the whole kit
and caboodle.

Do understand that I am writing from a different time zone for a particular
audience who culturally have a disregard for women and therefore you ought
not to convey any contempt and neither am I interested in original sin
discourse upon empathy as a product of a Catholic institutional eduction."

In case you were wondering such feasibility of a temporal heuristic with
noumenon referencing (ie. irrespective of any temporal relativity as axis
mundi) was our work in progress and calibration point #0 - WEDNESDAY 20
MARCH 1996 / NEW MOON 21 MARCH 1996 + 5 x #364 + #182 = 12 SEPTEMBER 2001
response to the World Trade Centre Terrorist Event.

#1091 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #281 as [#80, #1, #100, #1, #3, #5, #50, #800,
#40, #1, #10] = paragínomai (G3854): {UMBRA: #366 % #41 = #38} 1) to be
present, to come near, approach; 2) *TO* *COME* *FORTH*, *MAKE* *ONE'S*
*PUBLIC* *APPEARANCE*;

YOUTUBE: "9/11: AS EVENTS UNFOLD" (Uploaded: 11 SEPTEMBER 2018)

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEogeIIOJzU>

#1010 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #281 as [#30, #40, #300, #40, #200, #400] =
mishmereth (H4931): {UMBRA: #980 % #41 = #37} 1) *GUARD*, *CHARGE*,
*FUNCTION*, *OBLIGATION*, *SERVICE*, *WATCH*; 1a) guard, watch, house of
detention or confinement; 1b) keeping, preserving; 1c) charge, injunction;
1d) office, function (ceremonial);

#1091 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #281 as [#20, #100, #1, #300, #70, #400, #200]
= krátos (G2904): {UMBRA: #691 % #41 = #35} 1) force, strength; 2) power,
might: mighty with great power; 2a) a mighty deed, a work of power; 3)
*DOMINION*;

PHONE CALL @ 0947 HRS ON 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 GIVES GRAPPLE (354, 281)@[11,
28, 59, 38, 9, 48, 31, 56, 1] PROTOTYPE

<http://www.grapple369.com/Savvy/?date:2001.9.11&time:9.47&heuristic>

@9: Sup: 38 - FULLNESS: SHENG (#354); Ego: 1 - CENTRE: CHUNG (#281)}

TELOS TOTAL: #281 as [#30, #200, #1, #10, #40] = râʼâh (H7200): {UMBRA:
#206 % #41 = #1} 1) to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to see; 1a2) to see, perceive; 1a3) to see, have vision; 1a4)
to look at, see, regard, look after, see after, learn about, observe,
watch, look upon, look out, find out; 1a5) to see, observe, consider, look
at, give attention to, discern, distinguish; 1a6) to look at, gaze at; 1b)
(Niphal); 1b1) to appear, present oneself; 1b2) to be seen; 1b3) to be
visible; 1c) (Pual) to be seen; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to cause to see, show;
1d2) to cause to look intently at, behold, cause to gaze at; 1e) (Hophal);
1e1) to be caused to see, be shown; 1e2) to be exhibited to; 1f) (Hithpael)
*TO* *LOOK* *AT* *EACH* *OTHER*, *FACE*;

ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #186

DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #487

PHONE CALL: "HI *BABY* I'M... *BABY* YOU HAVE TO *LISTEN* TO ME...
CAREFULLY, I'M ON A PLANE THAT'S BEEN HIJACKED. I'M ON THE PLANE, I'M
*CALLING* FROM THE PLANE. I WANNA *TELL* YOU THAT I *LOVE* YOU. PLEASE
*TELL* MY *CHILDREN* THAT I *LOVE* THEM VERY MUCH, AND I'M SO *SORRY*
*BABE*. I *HOPE* TO BE ABLE TO *SEE* *YOUR* *FACE* AGAIN *BABY*. I *LOVE*
YOU *BABY*. I *LOVE* YOU. GOODBYE."

#287 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #186 as [#2, #70, #200, #10, #5] /
#327 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #186 as [#2, #70, #200, #10, #5, #40] = ʻîyr
(H5892): {UMBRA: #280 % #41 = #34} 1) excitement, anguish; 1a) of *TERROR*;
2) city, town (a place of waking, guarded); 2a) city, town;

#686 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #281 as [#5, #50, #1, #50, #300, #10, #70,
#200] = enantíos (G1727): {UMBRA: #686 % #41 = #30} 1) over against,
opposite; 1a) of place, opposite, contrary (of the wind); 2) metaphor; 2a)
*OPPOSED* *AS* *AN* *ADVERSARY*, *HOSTILE*, *ANTAGONISTIC* *IN* *FEELING*
*OR* *ACT*; 2b) an opponent;


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TIM [SECRET BUSINESS] <cyfur12345@gmail.com> @ 0622 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY
2024: “So now it's private reach arounds for the christers, eh tugger
teddy."

DOLF @ 0756 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "Yesterday by email @ 1146 HOURS ON
15 FEBRUARY 2024 I advised several agencies that I had "on VALENTINE'S DAY
/ ASH WEDNESDAY before sunset observed a shrink wrapped / vacuum sealed
packaging of PORK SPARE RIBS (approximately 500+ grams) with use by date 26
FEBRUARY 2024 secreted wthin the ROSE GARDEN area of the BOER WAR MEMORIAL.

Within the entrance area on the concrete I observed a charcoal object about
2cm in size and a scuff mark. Both items were removed and the MEAT was
placed in the nearest BIN.

We note a habitual ROMAN CATHOLIC ecclesiastical ritual connection:

-- EASTER 3 / 11 APRIL 2015 - KNIGHTS TEMPLAR RENEWAL ---> ANKH UNION (on
MARRIAGE and EUCHARIST see explanation concerning subordinate HYPOSTASIS)

-- BOER WAR MEMORIAL INFIDELITY 8 / 10 JUNE 2017 ---> PENTECOST

-- ROSES TRIBUTE @ WOMAN / CHILD SAINT PATRICK'S DAY 17 MARCH 2017
UNVEILING --> ROSARY

As you duly note these #324 - ACTORS AS AGENT PROVOCATEURS are seemingly
(from mirrored dialog content) deploying some media impetus (noting the
POPE'S EXORCIST as a JESUIT production was released less that 12 months on
14 APRIL 2023) as an economy for which the Catholic Church has a modus
operandi in using human suffering for religious / political opportunism
which was most evident in the circumstance:

-- A *STATUE* erected upon 30 OCTOBER 2013 to MONSIGNOR HUGH O'FLAHERTY
being a person of IRISH heritage with VATICAN CITY-STATE *EX* *JURE*
citizenship unwilling to sell his soul to the DEVIL accompanying HACKNEYED
TROPES which are usually the providence of our JINGOISTIC ATLANTIS ANZAC
PHANTASM HERITAGE: "THE NAME OF THIS #213 / #233 - *GREAT* AND GOOD MAN IS
LARGELY FORGOTTEN IN HIS NATIVE IRELAND."

-- SAINT PATRICK'S DAY 17 MARCH 2017 unveiling of the MARY MAGDALENE (ie.
IRISH CATHOLIC #298 - WASHER #449 - WOMAN WITH NAKED CHILD) #808 -
*GENOCIDE* STATUE both a TROJAN / BESIEGEMENT IN ADVANCING AN IRISH
CATHOLIC REPUBLICAN ACTIVIST (IRA) CAUSE ("HIJACKING THE WORLD WAR ONE
CENTENNIAL / EVASION OF PARADIGM EQUIVALENCE TO GERMAN NAZISM") OF SEDITION

-- Against the historical JEWISH PRECEDENT #298 - *HEBREW* (H5680) #449 -
*MIDWIVES* (H3205) ATTENDING UPON ISSUE FROM THE #808 - *WOMB* (H7356)
HAVING ADVERSE REPERCUSSIONS UPON #44 - *MALE* *OFFSPRING* (H3206) as then
impetus for EXODUS

Such clandestine activities suggests the use of a metaschema as a
morphological imposition upon the sōmatikōs (G4985): *BODILY* or
*CORPORALITY* of another.

"When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry
places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into
my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.

Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than
himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man
is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked
generation." [Matthew 12:43-45]

Either the POPE must give an explanation as public accountability or live
with the consequence of what is an institutional stigma which is an
appalling and a discomforting distraction before the EASTER PASSION.

Hence the "Chickens have come home to roost" for these SHYSTERS such a
MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST who is feigning a sincerity of dialog as public
excoriation.

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Gnosis%20Ex%20Machina%20Moral%20Code.pdf>

Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2024-02-14 5:26 p.m., Ted wrote:
>
>>
>> Is it okay if I email you?
>
>
>

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DOLF @ 0756 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "Yesterday by email @ 1146 HOURS ON
15 FEBRUARY 2024 I advised several agencies that I had "on VALENTINE'S DAY
/ ASH WEDNESDAY before sunset observed a shrink wrapped / vacuum sealed
packaging of PORK SPARE RIBS (approximately 500+ grams) with use by date 26
FEBRUARY 2024 secreted within the ROSE GARDEN area of the BOER WAR
MEMORIAL.

Within the entrance area on the concrete I observed a charcoal object about
2cm in size and a scuff mark. Both items were removed and the MEAT was
placed in the nearest BIN.

We note a habitual ROMAN CATHOLIC ecclesiastical ritual connection:

-- EASTER 3 / 11 APRIL 2015 - KNIGHTS TEMPLAR RENEWAL ---> *ANKH* *UNION*
(on *MARRIAGE* and *EUCHARIST* see explanation concerning subordinate
HYPOSTASIS)

-- BOER WAR MEMORIAL INFIDELITY 8 / 10 JUNE 2017 ---> *PENTECOST*

-- SUPERFLUOUS ROSES GARDEN TRIBUTE @ WOMAN / CHILD SAINT PATRICK'S DAY 17
MARCH 2017 STATUE UNVEILING --> *ROSARY*

As you duly note these #324 - ACTORS AS AGENT PROVOCATEURS are seemingly
(as is apparent from the mirrored dialog content) deploying some media
impetus (noting the POPE'S EXORCIST as a JESUIT production was released
less that 12 months on 14 APRIL 2023) as an economy for which the CATHOLIC
CHURCH has a modus operandi in using human suffering for its religious /
political opportunism which was most evident in the circumstance:

-- A *STATUE* erected upon 30 OCTOBER 2013 to MONSIGNOR HUGH O'FLAHERTY
being a person of IRISH heritage with VATICAN CITY-STATE *EX* *JURE*
citizenship unwilling to sell his soul to the DEVIL accompanying HACKNEYED
TROPES which are usually the providence of our JINGOISTIC ATLANTIS ANZAC
PHANTASM HERITAGE: "THE NAME OF THIS #213 / #233 - *GREAT* AND GOOD MAN IS
LARGELY FORGOTTEN IN HIS NATIVE IRELAND."

-- SAINT PATRICK'S DAY 17 MARCH 2017 unveiling of the MARY MAGDALENE (ie.
IRISH CATHOLIC #298 - WASHER #449 - WOMAN WITH NAKED CHILD) #808 -
*GENOCIDE* STATUE both a TROJAN / BESIEGEMENT IN ADVANCING AN IRISH
CATHOLIC REPUBLICAN ACTIVIST (IRA) CAUSE ("HIJACKING THE WORLD WAR ONE
CENTENNIAL / EVASION OF PARADIGM EQUIVALENCE TO GERMAN NAZISM") OF
SEDITION.

-- AGAINST THE HISTORICAL JEWISH PRECEDENT #298 - *HEBREW* (H5680) #449 -
*MIDWIVES* (H3205) ATTENDING UPON ISSUE FROM THE #808 - *WOMB* (H7356)
HAVING ADVERSE REPERCUSSIONS UPON #44 - *MALE* *OFFSPRING* (H3206) as then
impetus for EXODUS

Such clandestine INTERNET / SOCIAL MEDIA activities suggests the use of a
metaschema as a morphological imposition upon the sōmatikōs (G4985):
*BODILY* or *CORPORALITY* of another.

"WHEN THE UNCLEAN SPIRIT IS GONE OUT OF A MAN, HE WALKETH THROUGH DRY
PLACES, SEEKING REST, AND FINDETH NONE. THEN HE SAITH, I WILL RETURN INTO
MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT; AND WHEN HE IS COME, HE FINDETH IT EMPTY,
SWEPT, AND GARNISHED.

YOUTUBE: "VINCENT PRICE PERFORMS THE THRILLER RAP LIVE 1987"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpEfX1IKEak&t=21s>

THEN GOETH HE, AND TAKETH WITH HIMSELF SEVEN OTHER SPIRITS MORE WICKED THAN
HIMSELF, AND THEY ENTER IN AND DWELL THERE: AND THE LAST STATE OF THAT MAN
IS WORSE THAN THE FIRST. EVEN SO SHALL IT BE ALSO UNTO THIS WICKED
GENERATION." [Matthew 12:43-45]

Either the POPE must give an explanation as a public accountability or live
with the consequence of what is an institutional stigma which is an
appalling and a discomforting distraction before the EASTER PASSION.

Hence the "CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST" for these SHYSTERS such a
MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST who is feigning a sincerity of dialog as action of
public excoriation."

>
> Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-02-14 5:26 p.m., Ted wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is it okay if I email you?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

--

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Ozix

> As an atheist, Ash Wednesday service is the only one I like "from dust
> we came and to dust we return". Plus getting ash on the forehead seemed
> a pretty cool ritual as a kid.
>
> Pentecostals don't do Ash Wednesday, that is why they suck.

All that is fine....BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
rational people nor any impressionable young minds.

Also, please, pretty please!
Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.

If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.
If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
you find relevant.
BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.
In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
part of us atheists.

--
Ördög
The on duty Newsgroup Devil

Re: Gay Priests, Pastors, Reverends, Ministers, why not?

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 by: dolf - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:19 UTC

Is that SLANDER: "insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
responding to its mental excrements" from the HUNGARIAN COMMUNIST (as an
unaccountable Nazism with aversion to religious values) who doesn't adhere
to the SAPIENT SOVEREIGN / SACRED FIRST PRINCIPLES of QUEEN VICTORIA'S
LETTERS PATENT 29 October 1900 that have been given assent by the people in
being requisite for a civil and just society?

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Letters%20Patent%20Variance%20Simple.pdf>

And therefore has no right of entitlement to remain in this country and
nothing ought to prevent you from departing--the legal precedent ENGLISH
BILL OF RIGHTS (1689) grants use entitlement to use force to confront your
unlawful decadent life.

Ördög <ordog@your.service.biz> wrote:
> Ozix
>
>> As an atheist, Ash Wednesday service is the only one I like "from dust
>> we came and to dust we return". Plus getting ash on the forehead seemed
>> a pretty cool ritual as a kid.
>>
>> Pentecostals don't do Ash Wednesday, that is why they suck.
>
> All that is fine....BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
> about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
> rational people nor any impressionable young minds.
>
> Also, please, pretty please!
> Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
> responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.
>
> If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
> discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
> posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.
> If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
> you find relevant.
> BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
> idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
> fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.
> In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
> feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
> religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
> part of us atheists.
>

--

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Re: Gay Priests, Pastors, Reverends, Ministers, why not?

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 by: dolf - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:27 UTC

ÖRDÖG <ORDOG@PURGATORY.HELL.BIZ> @ 0845 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "All
that is fine.... BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
rational people nor any impressionable young minds.

Also, please, pretty please!

Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.

If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.

If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
you find relevant.

BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.

In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
part of us atheists."

DOLF @ 0919 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "Is that RACIAL ANTI-DUTCH,
ANTI-SEMITIC SLANDER: "INSANE SPAMMING AND NEWSGROUP FLOODING TROLL BY
RESPONDING TO ITS MENTAL EXCREMENTS" from the HUNGARIAN COMMUNIST (as an
unaccountable Nazism with an aversion to religious values) who doesn't
adhere to the SAPIENT SOVEREIGN / SACRED FIRST PRINCIPLES of QUEEN
VICTORIA'S LETTERS PATENT 29 OCTOBER 1900 that have been given assent by
the people in being requisite for a civil and just society?

FOR FURTHER SEE: "DEVISING THE IDEA TEMPLATE TO QUEEN VICTORIA'S LETTERS
PATENT AND HYPOTHESIS ON ONTIC VARIANCE"

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Letters%20Patent%20Variance%20Simple.pdf>

And therefore has no right of entitlement to remain within this country
and nothing ought to prevent you from departing--the legal precedent as
ENGLISH BILL OF RIGHTS (1689) grants us an entitlement to use force to
confront your unlawful decadent life."

A revision of this document may be obtained from the following URL:

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Gnosis%20Ex%20Machina%20Moral%20Code.pdf>

Revision Date: 16 February 2024

Ördög <ordog@your.service.biz> wrote:
> Ozix
>
>> As an atheist, Ash Wednesday service is the only one I like "from dust
>> we came and to dust we return". Plus getting ash on the forehead seemed
>> a pretty cool ritual as a kid.
>>
>> Pentecostals don't do Ash Wednesday, that is why they suck.
>
> All that is fine....BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
> about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
> rational people nor any impressionable young minds.
>
> Also, please, pretty please!
> Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
> responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.
>
> If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
> discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
> posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.
> If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
> you find relevant.
> BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
> idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
> fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.
> In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
> feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
> religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
> part of us atheists.
>

--

Check out our SAVVY module prototype that facilitates a movable / resizable
DIALOG and complex dropdown MENU interface deploying the third party d3
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Re: Gay Priests, Pastors, Reverends, Ministers, why not?

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 by: Ördög - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:32 UTC

THIS MATTER WILL BE SHORTLY FILED WITH LAWYERS

ÖRDÖG <ORDOG@PURGATORY.HELL.BIZ> @ 0845 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "All
that is fine.... BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
rational people nor any impressionable young minds.

Also, please, pretty please!

Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.

If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.

If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
you find relevant.

BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.

In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
part of us atheists."

DOLF @ 0919 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "Is that RACIAL ANTI-DUTCH,
ANTI-SEMITIC SLANDER: "INSANE SPAMMING AND NEWSGROUP FLOODING TROLL BY
RESPONDING TO ITS MENTAL EXCREMENTS" from the HUNGARIAN COMMUNIST (as an
unaccountable Nazism with an aversion to religious values) who doesn't
adhere to the SAPIENT SOVEREIGN / SACRED FIRST PRINCIPLES of QUEEN
VICTORIA'S LETTERS PATENT 29 OCTOBER 1900 that have been given assent by
the people in being requisite for a civil and just society?

FOR FURTHER SEE: "DEVISING THE IDEA TEMPLATE TO QUEEN VICTORIA'S LETTERS
PATENT AND HYPOTHESIS ON ONTIC VARIANCE"

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Letters%20Patent%20Variance%20Simple.pdf>

And therefore has no right of entitlement to remain within this country
and nothing ought to prevent you from departing--the legal precedent as
ENGLISH BILL OF RIGHTS (1689) grants us an entitlement to use force to
confront your unlawful decadent life."

A revision of this document may be obtained from the following URL:

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Gnosis%20Ex%20Machina%20Moral%20Code.pdf>

Revision Date: 16 February 2024

Ördög <ordog@your.service.biz> wrote:
> Ozix
>
>> As an atheist, Ash Wednesday service is the only one I like "from dust
>> we came and to dust we return". Plus getting ash on the forehead seemed
>> a pretty cool ritual as a kid.
>>
>> Pentecostals don't do Ash Wednesday, that is why they suck.
>
> All that is fine....BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
> about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
> rational people nor any impressionable young minds.
>
> Also, please, pretty please!
> Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
> responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.
>
> If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
> discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
> posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.
> If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
> you find relevant.
> BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
> idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
> fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.
> In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
> feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
> religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
> part of us atheists.
>

--

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 by: Ördög - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 23:04 UTC

WARNING!

The troll is at it again faking nyms while cross-posting furiously!
PLEASE IGNORE!

Just look at its posting headers which is full of hints showing clearly
that I was not the poster of this crap.
If appropriate you could filter its excretions with these entries with
the 'contains' attribute:

Message-ID: @mid.individual.net
X-Mailer: Mozilla Thunderbird
X-Trace: Individual.net

Or just use your filters by newsgroup selection!

Easy-fix doing wonders for your maintaining your mental integrity!
:-)

--
Ördög
The on duty Newsgroup Devil

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 by: Ördög - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 23:08 UTC

THIS MATTER WILL BE SHORTLY FILED WITH LAWYERS

ÖRDÖG <ORDOG@PURGATORY.HELL.BIZ> @ 0845 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "All
that is fine.... BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
rational people nor any impressionable young minds.

Also, please, pretty please!

Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.

If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.

If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
you find relevant.

BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.

In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
part of us atheists."

DOLF @ 0919 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "Is that RACIAL ANTI-DUTCH,
ANTI-SEMITIC SLANDER: "INSANE SPAMMING AND NEWSGROUP FLOODING TROLL BY
RESPONDING TO ITS MENTAL EXCREMENTS" from the HUNGARIAN COMMUNIST (as an
unaccountable Nazism with an aversion to religious values) who doesn't
adhere to the SAPIENT SOVEREIGN / SACRED FIRST PRINCIPLES of QUEEN
VICTORIA'S LETTERS PATENT 29 OCTOBER 1900 that have been given assent by
the people in being requisite for a civil and just society?

FOR FURTHER SEE: "DEVISING THE IDEA TEMPLATE TO QUEEN VICTORIA'S LETTERS
PATENT AND HYPOTHESIS ON ONTIC VARIANCE"

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Letters%20Patent%20Variance%20Simple.pdf>

And therefore has no right of entitlement to remain within this country
and nothing ought to prevent you from departing--the legal precedent as
ENGLISH BILL OF RIGHTS (1689) grants us an entitlement to use force to
confront your unlawful decadent life."

A revision of this document may be obtained from the following URL:

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Gnosis%20Ex%20Machina%20Moral%20Code.pdf>

Revision Date: 16 February 2024

Ördög <ordog@your.service.biz> wrote:
> Ozix
>
>> As an atheist, Ash Wednesday service is the only one I like "from dust
>> we came and to dust we return". Plus getting ash on the forehead seemed
>> a pretty cool ritual as a kid.
>>
>> Pentecostals don't do Ash Wednesday, that is why they suck.
>
> All that is fine....BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
> about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
> rational people nor any impressionable young minds.
>
> Also, please, pretty please!
> Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
> responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.
>
> If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
> discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
> posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.
> If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
> you find relevant.
> BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
> idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
> fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.
> In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
> feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
> religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
> part of us atheists.
>

"AND THE TONGUE IS A FIRE, A WORLD OF INIQUITY: SO IS THE TONGUE AMONG
OUR MEMBERS, THAT IT DEFILETH THE WHOLE BODY, AND SETTETH ON FIRE THE
COURSE OF NATURE; AND IT IS SET ON FIRE OF HELL. FOR EVERY KIND OF
BEASTS, AND OF BIRDS, AND OF SERPENTS, AND OF THINGS IN THE SEA, IS
TAMED, AND HATH BEEN TAMED OF MANKIND:

#32 - 𝌥衆 = #483
COGITO: [#54, #77, #61, #71, #11] as #32 - LEGION (CHUANG)

[#54 {@1: Sup: 54 - UNITY: K'UN (#54); Ego: 54 - UNITY: K'UN (#54)}
#77 {@2: Sup: 50 - VASTNESS / WASTING: T'ANG (#104 - I COMMIT NO FRAUD
{%7}); Ego: 77 - COMPLIANCE: HSUN (#131)}
#61 {@3: Sup: 30 - BOLD RESOLUTION: YI (#134 - MALE DEME IS UNNAMED
{%34}); Ego: 61 - EMBELLISHMENT: SHIH (#192 - I AM NOT SWOLLEN WITH
PRIDE {%39})}
#71 {@4: Sup: 20 - ADVANCE: CHIN (#154); Ego: 71 - STOPPAGE: CHIH (#263)}
#11] {@5: Sup: 31 - PACKING: CHUANG (#185 - I AM NOT BOISTEROUS IN
BEHAVIOUR {%25}); Ego: 11 - DIVERGENCE: CH'A (#274)}

<http://www.grapple369.com/Savvy/?male:185&feme:274&ontic:481&deme:134&idea:274>

TELOS TOTAL: #274 as [#1, #200, #5, #2, #5, #10, #1, #50] = asébeia
(G763): {UMBRA: #224 % #41 = #19} 1) *WANT* *OF* *REVERENCE* *TOWARDS*
*GOD*, *IMPIETY*, *UNGODLINESS*;

ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #481

DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134

#841 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #274 as [#5, #50, #80, #300, #6, #400] =
nephesh (H5315): {UMBRA: #430 % #41 = #20} 1) *SOUL*, *SELF*, *LIFE*,
creature, person, appetite, *MIND*, *LIVING* *BEING*, *DESIRE*,
*EMOTION*, *PASSION*; 1a) that which breathes, the breathing substance
or being, soul, the inner being of man; 1b) living being; 1c) living
being (with life in the blood); 1d) *THE* *MAN* *HIMSELF*, *SELF*,
*PERSON* *OR* *INDIVIDUAL*; 1e) seat of the appetites; 1f) seat of
emotions and passions; 1g) *ACTIVITY* *OF* *MIND*; 1g1) dubious; 1h)
*ACTIVITY* *OF* *THE* *WILL*; 1h1) dubious; 1i) *ACTIVITY* *OF* *THE*
*CHARACTER*; 1i1) dubious;

#246 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #481 as [#40, #200, #1, #5] = murʼâh
(H4760): {UMBRA: #246 % #41 = #41} 1) crop or *CRAW* (of a bird),
*ALIMENTARY* *CANAL* (of a bird);

#265 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#10, #100, #30, #70, #50, #5] =
qâlaʻ (H7049): {UMBRA: #200 % #41 = #36} 1) to sling, *HURL* *FORTH*;
1a) (Qal); 1a1) to sling; 1a2) slinger (participle); 1b) (Piel) to
sling; 2) (Qal) to carve;

#471 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#1, #20, #30, #400, #20] = ʼâkal
(H398): {UMBRA: #51 % #41 = #10} 1) to eat, devour, burn up, feed; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) *TO* *EAT* (*HUMAN* *SUBJECT*); 1a2) to eat, devour (of
beasts and birds); 1a3) *TO* *DEVOUR*, *CONSUME* (*OF* *FIRE*); 1a4) to
devour, slay (of sword); 1a5) to devour, consume, destroy (inanimate
subjects - ie, pestilence, drought); 1a6) to devour (of oppression); 1b)
(Niphal); 1b1) to be eaten (by men); 1b2) to be devoured, consumed (of
fire); 1b3) to be wasted, destroyed (of flesh); 1c) (Pual); 1c1) to
cause to eat, feed with; 1c2) to cause to devour; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to
feed; 1d2) to cause to eat; 1e) (Piel); 1e1) consume;

#143 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#8, #50, #80, #5] = chănuphâh
(H2613): {UMBRA: #143 % #41 = #20} 1) *PROFANENESS*, *POLLUTION*,
*HYPOCRISY*, *GODLESSNESS*;

#626 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#500, #70, #50, #5, #1] /
#835 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#500, #70, #50, #5, #10, #200] =
phoneús (G5406): {UMBRA: #1225 % #41 = #36} 1) a *MURDERER*, a homicide;

#458 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#8, #40, #400, #10] = chêmâh
(H2534): {UMBRA: #53 % #41 = #12} 1) heat, rage, hot displeasure,
indignation, anger, wrath, poison, bottles; 1a) heat; 1a1) fever; 1a2)
*VENOM*, *POISON* (fig.); 1b) *BURNING* *ANGER*, *RAGE*;

BUT THE TONGUE CAN NO MAN TAME; IT IS AN UNRULY EVIL, FULL OF DEADLY
*POISON*-G2447:.

#280 as [#10, #70, #200] = iós (G2447): {UMBRA: #280 % #41 = #34} 1)
poison (of animals); 1a) poison of asps is under their lips,; 1b)
*SPOKEN* *OF* *MEN* *GIVEN* *TO* *REVILING* *AND* *CALUMNIATING* *AND*
*THEREBY* *INJURING* *OTHERS*; 2) rust;

THEREWITH BLESS WE GOD, EVEN THE FATHER; AND THEREWITH CURSE WE MEN,
WHICH ARE MADE AFTER THE SIMILITUDE OF GOD. OUT OF THE SAME MOUTH
PROCEEDETH BLESSING AND CURSING. MY BRETHREN, THESE THINGS OUGHT NOT SO
TO BE. DOTH A FOUNTAIN SEND FORTH AT THE SAME PLACE SWEET WATER AND
BITTER?" [James 3:6-11]

#87 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#2, #20, #5, #50, #10] /
#93 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#2, #20, #5, #50, #10, #6] /
    #96 - NOUMENON RESONANCE FOR 15 FEBRUARY 2024 as [#6, #20, #5, #50,
#10, #5] /
#693 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#6, #2, #20, #5, #50, #10, #600] =
kôhên (H3548): {UMBRA: #75 % #41 = #34} 1) *PRIEST*, *PRINCIPAL*
*OFFICER* *OR* *CHIEF* *RULER*; 1a) priest-king (Melchizedek, Messiah);
1b) pagan priests; 1c) priests of Jehovah; 1d) Levitical priests; 1e)
Zadokite priests; 1f) Aaronic priests; 1g) *THE* *HIGH* *PRIEST*;

YOUTUBE: "THE POPE'S EXORCIST - OFFICIAL TRAILER (14 APRIL 2023)"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzqDqeDyt2U&t=53s>

THE POPE: “THERE IS A CASE THAT NEEDS YOUR ATTENTION.”

PAWN (*PION*): "BRING ME THE *PRIEST*"

PRIEST: "I'M HERE TO *HELP* JULIA {downy; soft and tender *HAIR*}"

PAWN (*PION*): "*RUN*, *RUN*"


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 by: dolf - Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:26 UTC

THIS MATTER WILL BE SHORTLY FILED WITH LAWYERS

NOTE TO THE READER ON THE HYPOCRISY OF THIS POSTER'S SLANDER GIVEN THE
RELIGIOUS IDENTITY OF ÖRDÖG: (Ürdüng in Old Hungarian) is a
shape-shifting, demonic creature from Hungarian mythology and early
Hungarian paganism who controls the dark and evil forces of the world.
After Christianization, it was identified with the devil as SATAN. It is
often said in Hungarian mythology that God (Isten in Hungarian) had help
from Ördög when creating the world.'

Ördög is often thought to look somewhat like a satyr or faun, a humanoid
with the upper torso of a human male and lower portions of a goat;
usually pitch-black, with cloven hooves, ram-like horns, a long tail
ending in a blade; and he carries a pitchfork. He can also be
distinguished by his overly large phallus.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ördög>

ÖRDÖG <ORDOG@PURGATORY.HELL.BIZ> @ 0845 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "All
that is fine.... BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
rational people nor any impressionable young minds.

Also, please, pretty please!

Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.

If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.

If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
you find relevant.

BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.

In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
part of us atheists."

DOLF @ 0919 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "Is that RACIAL ANTI-DUTCH,
ANTI-SEMITIC SLANDER: "INSANE SPAMMING AND NEWSGROUP FLOODING TROLL BY
RESPONDING TO ITS MENTAL EXCREMENTS" from the HUNGARIAN COMMUNIST (as an
unaccountable Nazism with an aversion to religious values) who doesn't
adhere to the SAPIENT SOVEREIGN / SACRED FIRST PRINCIPLES of QUEEN
VICTORIA'S LETTERS PATENT 29 OCTOBER 1900 that have been given assent by
the people in being requisite for a civil and just society?

FOR FURTHER SEE: "DEVISING THE IDEA TEMPLATE TO QUEEN VICTORIA'S LETTERS
PATENT AND HYPOTHESIS ON ONTIC VARIANCE"

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Letters%20Patent%20Variance%20Simple.pdf>

And therefore has no right of entitlement to remain within this country
and nothing ought to prevent you from departing--the legal precedent as
ENGLISH BILL OF RIGHTS (1689) grants us an entitlement to use force to
confront your unlawful decadent life."

A revision of this document may be obtained from the following URL:

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Gnosis%20Ex%20Machina%20Moral%20Code.pdf>

Revision Date: 16 February 2024

Ördög <ordog@your.service.biz> wrote:
> Ozix
>
>> As an atheist, Ash Wednesday service is the only one I like "from dust
>> we came and to dust we return". Plus getting ash on the forehead seemed
>> a pretty cool ritual as a kid.
>>
>> Pentecostals don't do Ash Wednesday, that is why they suck.
>
> All that is fine....BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
> about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
> rational people nor any impressionable young minds.
>
> Also, please, pretty please!
> Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
> responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.
>
> If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
> discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
> posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.
> If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
> you find relevant.
> BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
> idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
> fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.
> In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
> feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
> religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
> part of us atheists.
>

"AND THE TONGUE IS A FIRE, A WORLD OF INIQUITY: SO IS THE TONGUE AMONG
OUR MEMBERS, THAT IT DEFILETH THE WHOLE BODY, AND SETTETH ON FIRE THE
COURSE OF NATURE; AND IT IS SET ON FIRE OF HELL. FOR EVERY KIND OF
BEASTS, AND OF BIRDS, AND OF SERPENTS, AND OF THINGS IN THE SEA, IS
TAMED, AND HATH BEEN TAMED OF MANKIND:

#32 - 𝌥衆 = #483
COGITO: [#54, #77, #61, #71, #11] as #32 - LEGION (CHUANG)

[#54 {@1: Sup: 54 - UNITY: K'UN (#54); Ego: 54 - UNITY: K'UN (#54)}
#77 {@2: Sup: 50 - VASTNESS / WASTING: T'ANG (#104 - I COMMIT NO FRAUD
{%7}); Ego: 77 - COMPLIANCE: HSUN (#131)}
#61 {@3: Sup: 30 - BOLD RESOLUTION: YI (#134 - MALE DEME IS UNNAMED
{%34}); Ego: 61 - EMBELLISHMENT: SHIH (#192 - I AM NOT SWOLLEN WITH
PRIDE {%39})}
#71 {@4: Sup: 20 - ADVANCE: CHIN (#154); Ego: 71 - STOPPAGE: CHIH (#263)}
#11] {@5: Sup: 31 - PACKING: CHUANG (#185 - I AM NOT BOISTEROUS IN
BEHAVIOUR {%25}); Ego: 11 - DIVERGENCE: CH'A (#274)}

<http://www.grapple369.com/Savvy/?male:185&feme:274&ontic:481&deme:134&idea:274>

TELOS TOTAL: #274 as [#1, #200, #5, #2, #5, #10, #1, #50] = asébeia
(G763): {UMBRA: #224 % #41 = #19} 1) *WANT* *OF* *REVERENCE* *TOWARDS*
*GOD*, *IMPIETY*, *UNGODLINESS*;

ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #481

DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134

#841 - FEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #274 as [#5, #50, #80, #300, #6, #400] =
nephesh (H5315): {UMBRA: #430 % #41 = #20} 1) *SOUL*, *SELF*, *LIFE*,
creature, person, appetite, *MIND*, *LIVING* *BEING*, *DESIRE*,
*EMOTION*, *PASSION*; 1a) that which breathes, the breathing substance
or being, soul, the inner being of man; 1b) living being; 1c) living
being (with life in the blood); 1d) *THE* *MAN* *HIMSELF*, *SELF*,
*PERSON* *OR* *INDIVIDUAL*; 1e) seat of the appetites; 1f) seat of
emotions and passions; 1g) *ACTIVITY* *OF* *MIND*; 1g1) dubious; 1h)
*ACTIVITY* *OF* *THE* *WILL*; 1h1) dubious; 1i) *ACTIVITY* *OF* *THE*
*CHARACTER*; 1i1) dubious;

#246 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #481 as [#40, #200, #1, #5] = murʼâh
(H4760): {UMBRA: #246 % #41 = #41} 1) crop or *CRAW* (of a bird),
*ALIMENTARY* *CANAL* (of a bird);

#265 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#10, #100, #30, #70, #50, #5] =
qâlaʻ (H7049): {UMBRA: #200 % #41 = #36} 1) to sling, *HURL* *FORTH*;
1a) (Qal); 1a1) to sling; 1a2) slinger (participle); 1b) (Piel) to
sling; 2) (Qal) to carve;

#471 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#1, #20, #30, #400, #20] = ʼâkal
(H398): {UMBRA: #51 % #41 = #10} 1) to eat, devour, burn up, feed; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) *TO* *EAT* (*HUMAN* *SUBJECT*); 1a2) to eat, devour (of
beasts and birds); 1a3) *TO* *DEVOUR*, *CONSUME* (*OF* *FIRE*); 1a4) to
devour, slay (of sword); 1a5) to devour, consume, destroy (inanimate
subjects - ie, pestilence, drought); 1a6) to devour (of oppression); 1b)
(Niphal); 1b1) to be eaten (by men); 1b2) to be devoured, consumed (of
fire); 1b3) to be wasted, destroyed (of flesh); 1c) (Pual); 1c1) to
cause to eat, feed with; 1c2) to cause to devour; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to
feed; 1d2) to cause to eat; 1e) (Piel); 1e1) consume;

#143 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #185 as [#8, #50, #80, #5] = chănuphâh
(H2613): {UMBRA: #143 % #41 = #20} 1) *PROFANENESS*, *POLLUTION*,
*HYPOCRISY*, *GODLESSNESS*;

#626 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#500, #70, #50, #5, #1] /
#835 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#500, #70, #50, #5, #10, #200] =
phoneús (G5406): {UMBRA: #1225 % #41 = #36} 1) a *MURDERER*, a homicide;

#458 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#8, #40, #400, #10] = chêmâh
(H2534): {UMBRA: #53 % #41 = #12} 1) heat, rage, hot displeasure,
indignation, anger, wrath, poison, bottles; 1a) heat; 1a1) fever; 1a2)
*VENOM*, *POISON* (fig.); 1b) *BURNING* *ANGER*, *RAGE*;

BUT THE TONGUE CAN NO MAN TAME; IT IS AN UNRULY EVIL, FULL OF DEADLY
*POISON*-G2447:.

#280 as [#10, #70, #200] = iós (G2447): {UMBRA: #280 % #41 = #34} 1)
poison (of animals); 1a) poison of asps is under their lips,; 1b)
*SPOKEN* *OF* *MEN* *GIVEN* *TO* *REVILING* *AND* *CALUMNIATING* *AND*
*THEREBY* *INJURING* *OTHERS*; 2) rust;

THEREWITH BLESS WE GOD, EVEN THE FATHER; AND THEREWITH CURSE WE MEN,
WHICH ARE MADE AFTER THE SIMILITUDE OF GOD. OUT OF THE SAME MOUTH
PROCEEDETH BLESSING AND CURSING. MY BRETHREN, THESE THINGS OUGHT NOT SO
TO BE. DOTH A FOUNTAIN SEND FORTH AT THE SAME PLACE SWEET WATER AND
BITTER?" [James 3:6-11]

#87 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#2, #20, #5, #50, #10] /
#93 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#2, #20, #5, #50, #10, #6] /
    #96 - NOUMENON RESONANCE FOR 15 FEBRUARY 2024 as [#6, #20, #5, #50,
#10, #5] /
#693 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#6, #2, #20, #5, #50, #10, #600] =
kôhên (H3548): {UMBRA: #75 % #41 = #34} 1) *PRIEST*, *PRINCIPAL*
*OFFICER* *OR* *CHIEF* *RULER*; 1a) priest-king (Melchizedek, Messiah);
1b) pagan priests; 1c) priests of Jehovah; 1d) Levitical priests; 1e)
Zadokite priests; 1f) Aaronic priests; 1g) *THE* *HIGH* *PRIEST*;


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It’s certainly self apparent to those called by the GOSPEL: “LET NO MAN
DECEIVE YOU BY ANY MEANS: FOR THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT THERE COME
A FALLING AWAY FIRST, AND THAT MAN OF SIN BE REVEALED, THE SON OF
PERDITION; WHO OPPOSETH AND EXALTETH HIMSELF ABOVE ALL THAT IS CALLED
GOD, OR THAT IS WORSHIPPED; SO THAT HE AS GOD SITTETH IN THE TEMPLE OF
GOD, SHEWING HIMSELF THAT HE IS GOD.

REMEMBER YE NOT, THAT, WHEN I WAS YET WITH YOU, I TOLD YOU THESE THINGS?
AND NOW YE KNOW WHAT WITHHOLDETH THAT HE MIGHT BE REVEALED IN HIS TIME.

FOR THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY DOTH ALREADY WORK: ONLY HE WHO NOW LETTETH
WILL LET, UNTIL HE BE TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY. AND THEN SHALL THAT WICKED
BE REVEALED, WHOM THE LORD SHALL CONSUME WITH THE SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH,
AND SHALL DESTROY WITH THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING: EVEN HIM, WHOSE
COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN WITH ALL POWER AND SIGNS AND LYING
WONDERS, AND WITH ALL DECEIVABLENESS OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS IN THEM THAT
PERISH; BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, THAT THEY MIGHT
BE SAVED.

AND FOR THIS CAUSE GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD
BELIEVE A LIE: THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH,
BUT HAD PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.” [2 Thessalonians 2:3-12]

#134 - DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #134 as [#2, #6, #60, #60, #6] = bûwç
(H947): {UMBRA: #68 % #41 = #27} 1) to tread down, reject, trample down;
1a) (Qal); 1a1) to tread down, *TRAMPLE* (*OF* *WARRIORS*); 1a2) of
rejection (fig.); 1b) (Polel); 1b1) to tread down (in bad sense); 1b2)
*TO* *DESECRATE*; 1c) (Hithpolel); 1c1) to tread; 1c2) to kick out; i)
of infants' blind movements; ii) of Jerusalem (fig.); 1c3) (Hophal) to
be trodden down;

YOUTUBE: "THE WARRIORS 'COME OUT TO PLAY'"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UEmYGp5VxY>

In some Gnostic cosmologies, #131 = *SAMAEL'S* role as source of evil
became identified with the DEMIURGE, the creator of the material world.
Although probably both accounts originate from the same source, the
Gnostic development differs from the Jewish development of #131 =
*SAMAEL*. <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael>

TIM [SECRET BUSINESS] <CYFUR12345@GMAIL.COM> @ 0622 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY
2024: “So now it's private reach arounds for the CHRISTERS, eh tugger
teddy [SAM THE MAN]."

DOLF @ 0756 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "Yesterday by email @ 1146 HOURS
ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024 I advised several agencies that I had "on
VALENTINE'S DAY / ASH WEDNESDAY before sunset observed a shrink wrapped
/ vacuum sealed packaging of PORK SPARE RIBS (approximately 500+ grams)
with use by date 26 FEBRUARY 2024 secreted within the ROSE GARDEN area
of the BOER WAR MEMORIAL.

Within the entrance area on the concrete I observed a charcoal object
about 2cm in size and a scuff mark. Both items were removed and the
MEAT was placed in the nearest BIN.

We note a habitual ROMAN CATHOLIC ecclesiastical ritual connection:

-- EASTER 3 / 11 APRIL 2015 - KNIGHTS TEMPLAR RENEWAL ---> *ANKH*
*UNION* (on *MARRIAGE* and *EUCHARIST* see explanation concerning
subordinate HYPOSTASIS)

-- BOER WAR MEMORIAL INFIDELITY 8 / 10 JUNE 2017 ---> *PENTECOST*

-- SUPERFLUOUS ROSES IN GARDEN TRIBUTE @ WOMAN / NAKED CHILD SAINT
PATRICK'S DAY 17 MARCH 2017 STATUE UNVEILING --> *ROSARY*

As you duly note these #324 - ACTORS AS AGENT PROVOCATEURS are seemingly
(as is apparent from the mirrored dialog content) deploying some media
impetus (noting that the POPE'S EXORCIST as a JESUIT movie production
was released less than 12 months ago on 14 APRIL 2023) as an economy for
which the CATHOLIC CHURCH has a modus operandi in using human suffering
for its religious / political opportunism and the LEGAL FRATERNITY /
JUDICIAL MAFIA ensures justice delayed is justice denied which was most
evident in the circumstance:

-- A *STATUE* erected upon 30 OCTOBER 2013 to MONSIGNOR HUGH O'FLAHERTY
being a person of IRISH heritage with VATICAN CITY-STATE *EX* *JURE*
citizenship unwilling to sell his soul to the DEVIL accompanying
HACKNEYED TROPES which are usually the providence of our JINGOISTIC
ATLANTIS ANZAC PHANTASM HERITAGE: "THE NAME OF THIS #213 / #233 -
*GREAT* AND GOOD MAN IS LARGELY FORGOTTEN IN HIS NATIVE IRELAND."

-- SAINT PATRICK'S DAY 17 MARCH 2017 unveiling of the MARY MAGDALENE
(ie. IRISH CATHOLIC #298 - WASHER #449 - WOMAN WITH NAKED CHILD) #808 -
*GENOCIDE* STATUE both a TROJAN / BESIEGEMENT IN ADVANCING AN IRISH
CATHOLIC REPUBLICAN ACTIVIST (IRA) CAUSE ("HIJACKING THE WORLD WAR ONE
CENTENNIAL / EVASION OF PARADIGM EQUIVALENCE TO GERMAN NAZISM") OF SEDITION.

-- AGAINST THE HISTORICAL JEWISH PRECEDENT #298 - *HEBREW* (H5680) #449
- *MIDWIVES* (H3205) ATTENDING UPON ISSUE FROM THE #808 - *WOMB* (H7356)
HAVING ADVERSE REPERCUSSIONS UPON #44 - *MALE* *OFFSPRING* (H3206) as
then impetus for EXODUS.

Such clandestine INTERNET / SOCIAL MEDIA activities suggests the use of
a metaschema as a morphological imposition upon the sōmatikōs (G4985):
*BODILY* or *CORPORALITY* of another.

"WHEN THE UNCLEAN SPIRIT IS GONE OUT OF A MAN, HE WALKETH THROUGH DRY
PLACES, SEEKING REST, AND FINDETH NONE. THEN HE SAITH, I WILL RETURN
INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT; AND WHEN HE IS COME, HE FINDETH IT
EMPTY, SWEPT, AND GARNISHED.

YOUTUBE: "VINCENT PRICE PERFORMS THE THRILLER RAP LIVE 1987"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpEfX1IKEak&t=21s>

<https://x.com/france24_en/status/1758477105447247993>

FRANCE24 (@BreakingF24) @ 2231 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2023: "Russian
opposition leader Alexei Navalny has died, prison authorities say..."

THEN GOETH HE, AND TAKETH WITH HIMSELF SEVEN OTHER SPIRITS MORE WICKED
THAN HIMSELF, AND THEY ENTER IN AND DWELL THERE: AND THE LAST STATE OF
THAT MAN IS WORSE THAN THE FIRST. EVEN SO SHALL IT BE ALSO UNTO THIS
WICKED GENERATION." [Matthew 12:43-45]

Either the POPE must give an explanation as a public accountability or
live with the consequence of what is an institutional stigma which is an
appalling and a discomforting distraction before the EASTER PASSION.

Hence the "CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST" for these SHYSTERS such a
MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST who is feigning a sincerity of dialog as an
indulgent anathema action promulgating public excoriation."

ÖRDÖG <ORDOG@PURGATORY.HELL.BIZ> @ 0845 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "All
that is fine.... BUT! As an atheist myself, I just do not care at all
about any religious rituals just as long as they do not effect sane and
rational people nor any impressionable young minds.

Also, please, pretty please!

Stop encouraging that insane spamming and newsgroup flooding troll by
responding to its mental excrements. Nothing good has ever come of it.

If you find a topic based of some rubbish posts worthy for some sane
discussions then start your own thread leaving out the insane original
posts/posters. And please avoid cross-posting it to other newsgroups.

If you must, then post the same topic individually to each newsgroups
you find relevant.

BTW posting atheist views to religious newsgroups have never been a good
idea...You only get any response from there from fully nut-job
fundamentalists, the likes of our Petz!.

In the mean while, you might actually end up hurting the fragile
feelings of some of the harmless practitioners of that particular
religious faith, which I find a very counter-productive practice on the
part of us atheists."

DOLF @ 0919 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024: "Is that RACIAL ANTI-DUTCH,
ANTI-SEMITIC SLANDER: "INSANE SPAMMING AND NEWSGROUP FLOODING TROLL BY
RESPONDING TO ITS MENTAL EXCREMENTS" from the HUNGARIAN COMMUNIST (as an
unaccountable Nazism with an aversion to religious values) who doesn't
adhere to the SAPIENT SOVEREIGN / SACRED FIRST PRINCIPLES of QUEEN
VICTORIA'S LETTERS PATENT 29 OCTOBER 1900 that have been given assent by
the people in being requisite for a civil and just society?

FOR FURTHER SEE: "DEVISING THE IDEA TEMPLATE TO QUEEN VICTORIA'S LETTERS
PATENT AND HYPOTHESIS ON ONTIC VARIANCE"

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Letters%20Patent%20Variance%20Simple.pdf>

And therefore has no right of entitlement to remain within this country
and nothing ought to prevent you from departing--the legal precedent as
ENGLISH BILL OF RIGHTS (1689) grants us an entitlement to use force to
confront your unlawful decadent life."

ÖRDÖG <ORDOG@PURGATORY.HELL.BIZ> @ 1004 HOURS ON 16 FEBRUARY 2024:
"WARNING ... OBNOXIOUS TROLL AT WORK:

WARNING!

The *TROLL* is at it again faking nyms while cross-posting furiously!

PLEASE IGNORE!

Just look at its posting headers which is full of hints showing clearly
that I was not the poster of this crap.

If appropriate you could filter its *EXCRETIONS* with these entries with
the 'contains' attribute:

Message-ID: @mid.individual.net
X-Mailer: Mozilla Thunderbird
X-Trace: Individual.net

Or just use your filters by newsgroup selection!

Easy-fix doing wonders for your maintaining your *MENTAL* *INTEGRITY*!"


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