The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
preference:

https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/

The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:

* Birmingham
* Crewe
* Derby
* Doncaster
* Newcastle
* York

Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
Swindon didn't make the shortlist.

Mark

On Tue, 05 Jul 2022 10:32:59 +0100, Mark Goodge wrote:

> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
> preference:
>
> https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>
> The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>
> * Birmingham * Crewe * Derby * Doncaster * Newcastle * York
>
> Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.

Reported in MR recently that Derby is the clear favourite. It's already a
centre for many rail supply companies, and has the old Technical Centre
available for use. It's going to need a refurb, but that is far cheaper
than renting /buying/building another place. If the Tech Centre isnt
used, there are numerous sites available in the old Works ground of Pride
Park Ind. Est.
The City Councils offer of a rebuild of the Assembly Rooms complex, which
shut in 2015 after a fire on the roof, has been dismissed as costing too
much, little parking, too far from the station and having no advantage
over any of the other sites available.

On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
> preference:
>
> https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>
> The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>
> * Birmingham
> * Crewe
> * Derby
> * Doncaster
> * Newcastle
> * York
>
> Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>
> Mark

Or Eastleigh....

--
Colin

In message <ta3pco$t7j$1@dont-email.me>, at 11:50:01 on Wed, 6 Jul 2022,
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> remarked:
>On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>> preference:
>> https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/

>> The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>> * Birmingham
>> * Crewe
>> * Derby
>> * Doncaster
>> * Newcastle
>> * York

>> Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>
>Or Eastleigh....

Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.

Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
anyway.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <ta3pco$t7j$1@dont-email.me>, at 11:50:01 on Wed, 6 Jul 2022,
>ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> remarked:
>>On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>>> preference:
>>> https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>
>>> The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>>> * Birmingham
>>> * Crewe
>>> * Derby
>>> * Doncaster
>>> * Newcastle
>>> * York
>
>>> Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>>
>>Or Eastleigh....
>
>Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>
>Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>anyway.

They don't. It's purely advisory, and perhaps the real decision was already made before this poll started?

On Wed, 06 Jul 2022 12:50:37 +0100, Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <ta3pco$t7j$1@dont-email.me>, at 11:50:01 on Wed, 6 Jul 2022,
>>ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> remarked:
>>>On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>>>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>>>> preference:
>>>> https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>>
>>>> The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>>>> * Birmingham
>>>> * Crewe
>>>> * Derby
>>>> * Doncaster
>>>> * Newcastle
>>>> * York
>>
>>>> Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>>>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>>>
>>>Or Eastleigh....
>>
>>Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>
>>Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>>and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>>anyway.
>
>They don't. It's purely advisory, and perhaps the real decision was
>already made before this poll started?

I just think they should call the new HQ building, wherever they
decide it will be, Trainy McTrain Place.

Mark

In message <sd1bch1gu4ptij2f63ea2gshd10eiqlukn@4ax.com>, at 13:54:21 on
Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
remarked:
>On Wed, 06 Jul 2022 12:50:37 +0100, Recliner
><recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <ta3pco$t7j$1@dont-email.me>, at 11:50:01 on Wed, 6 Jul 2022,
>>>ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>>>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>>>>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>>>>> preference:
>>>>> https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>>>
>>>>> The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>>>>> * Birmingham
>>>>> * Crewe
>>>>> * Derby
>>>>> * Doncaster
>>>>> * Newcastle
>>>>> * York
>>>
>>>>> Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>>>>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>>>>
>>>>Or Eastleigh....
>>>
>>>Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>>baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>>
>>>Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>>>and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>>>anyway.
>>
>>They don't. It's purely advisory, and perhaps the real decision was
>>already made before this poll started?
>
>I just think they should call the new HQ building, wherever they
>decide it will be, Trainy McTrain Place.

Or Fatty McFatty Controller Place.

I think this deserves a follow-up public vote.
--
Roland Perry

On 06/07/2022 14:56, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <sd1bch1gu4ptij2f63ea2gshd10eiqlukn@4ax.com>, at 13:54:21 on
> Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> remarked:
>> On Wed, 06 Jul 2022 12:50:37 +0100, Recliner
>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <ta3pco$t7j$1@dont-email.me>, at 11:50:01 on Wed, 6 Jul
>>>> 2022,
>>>> ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>> On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>>>>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>>>>>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>>>>>> preference:
>>>>>>  https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>>>>
>>>>>>  The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>>>>>>    * Birmingham
>>>>>>   * Crewe
>>>>>>   * Derby
>>>>>>   * Doncaster
>>>>>>   * Newcastle
>>>>>>   * York
>>>>
>>>>>>  Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>>>>>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or Eastleigh....
>>>>
>>>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>>>
>>>> Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>>>> and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> They don't. It's purely advisory, and perhaps the real decision was
>>> already made before this poll started?
>>
>> I just think they should call the new HQ building, wherever they
>> decide it will be, Trainy McTrain Place.
>
> Or Fatty McFatty Controller Place.
>
> I think this deserves a follow-up public vote.

How about the Empire Building?

On 06/07/2022 15:21, Certes wrote:
> On 06/07/2022 14:56, Roland Perry wrote:
>> In message <sd1bch1gu4ptij2f63ea2gshd10eiqlukn@4ax.com>, at 13:54:21
>> on Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
>> remarked:
>>> On Wed, 06 Jul 2022 12:50:37 +0100, Recliner
>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In message <ta3pco$t7j$1@dont-email.me>, at 11:50:01 on Wed, 6 Jul
>>>>> 2022,
>>>>> ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>> On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>>>>>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>>>>>>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>>>>>>> preference:
>>>>>>>  https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>>>>>>>    * Birmingham
>>>>>>>   * Crewe
>>>>>>>   * Derby
>>>>>>>   * Doncaster
>>>>>>>   * Newcastle
>>>>>>>   * York
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>>>>>>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or Eastleigh....
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>>>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>>>>> and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>
>>>> They don't. It's purely advisory, and perhaps the real decision was
>>>> already made before this poll started?
>>>
>>> I just think they should call the new HQ building, wherever they
>>> decide it will be, Trainy McTrain Place.
>>
>> Or Fatty McFatty Controller Place.
>>
>> I think this deserves a follow-up public vote.
>
> How about the Empire Building?

Given the State the Empire is currently in, probably not a good idea.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

On 06/07/2022 12:50, Recliner wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:

>> Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>> and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>> anyway.
>
> They don't. It's purely advisory,

[resists temptation]

--
Arthur Figgis

In message <ta45pe$24d3$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:21:33 on Wed, 6 Jul
2022, Certes <none@nowhere.net> remarked:
>On 06/07/2022 14:56, Roland Perry wrote:
>> In message <sd1bch1gu4ptij2f63ea2gshd10eiqlukn@4ax.com>, at 13:54:21
>>on Wed, 6 Jul 2022, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
>>remarked:
>>> On Wed, 06 Jul 2022 12:50:37 +0100, Recliner
>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry
>>>><roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In message <ta3pco$t7j$1@dont-email.me>, at 11:50:01 on Wed, 6 Jul
>>>>>2022,
>>>>> ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>> On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>>>>>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>>>>>>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>>>>>>> preference:
>>>>>>>  https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>>>>>>>    * Birmingham
>>>>>>>   * Crewe
>>>>>>>   * Derby
>>>>>>>   * Doncaster
>>>>>>>   * Newcastle
>>>>>>>   * York
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>>>>>>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or Eastleigh....
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>>>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>>>>> and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>
>>>> They don't. It's purely advisory, and perhaps the real decision was
>>>> already made before this poll started?
>>>
>>> I just think they should call the new HQ building, wherever they
>>> decide it will be, Trainy McTrain Place.

>> Or Fatty McFatty Controller Place.

>> I think this deserves a follow-up public vote.
>
>How about the Empire Building?

Very good, given the NR empire will significantly increase.

Or maybe we'd need to call it "The maxed-out credit card".
--
Roland Perry

On 06/07/2022 12:34, Roland Perry wrote:
> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.

It is a non-binding poll so they do not have to pay any attention to it.

In message <ta4t75$4p02$1@dont-email.me>, at 22:01:25 on Wed, 6 Jul
2022, MB <MB@nospam.net> remarked:

>On 06/07/2022 12:34, Roland Perry wrote:

>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>
>It is a non-binding poll so they do not have to pay any attention to it.

The role of a poll is often more than to pay any serious attention to
the result. They can be to give the public the mistaken impression that
the organisation is "listening", rather than being dictatorial.

This particular poll, however, seems likely to piss off all the people
who voted for somewhere other than the final choice, especially if the
final choice is *not* the one which won the poll.
--
Roland Perry

MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 06/07/2022 12:34, Roland Perry wrote:
>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>
> It is a non-binding poll so they do not have to pay any attention to it.

That’s what they said about the EU referendum: “advisory”.

--
Jeremy Double

On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 07:24:40 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message <ta4t75$4p02$1@dont-email.me>, at 22:01:25 on Wed, 6 Jul
>2022, MB <MB@nospam.net> remarked:
>
>>On 06/07/2022 12:34, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>
>>It is a non-binding poll so they do not have to pay any attention to it.
>
>The role of a poll is often more than to pay any serious attention to
>the result. They can be to give the public the mistaken impression that
>the organisation is "listening", rather than being dictatorial.
>
>This particular poll, however, seems likely to piss off all the people
>who voted for somewhere other than the final choice, especially if the
>final choice is *not* the one which won the poll.

If they've got any sense, they won't announce the winner of the poll
per se. They'll just annunce the overall winner, in a statement that
says something like "After considering industry submissions and the
outcome of the public consultation, we have decided that the HQ of GBR
will be at....".

Mark

Arthur Figgis <afiggis@example.invalid> wrote:
> On 06/07/2022 12:50, Recliner wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>>> and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>>> anyway.
>>
>> They don't. It's purely advisory,
>
> [resists temptation]
>

Is the result going to be 48:52?

Anna Noyd-Dryver

Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
> Arthur Figgis <afiggis@example.invalid> wrote:
>> On 06/07/2022 12:50, Recliner wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:34:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Especially as it's inevitable there will be many disappointed voters,
>>>> and I don't suppose they have a commitment to choose the poll-winner
>>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> They don't. It's purely advisory,
>>
>> [resists temptation]
>>
>
> Is the result going to be 48:52?
>

With six cities to choose from, it's unlikely that any will get more than
30% of the vote. So, almost certainly, the most popular will actually not
be the choice of the majority who vote.

On 07/07/2022 09:02, Recliner wrote:
> With six cities to choose from, it's unlikely that any will get more than
> 30% of the vote. So, almost certainly, the most popular will actually not
> be the choice of the majority who vote.

I suspect the most import factors will be the number of people living
near each proposed site and campaigns in those area.

On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:50:01 +0100, ColinR
<rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:

>On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>> preference:
>>
>> https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>>
>> The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>>
>> * Birmingham
>> * Crewe
>> * Derby
>> * Doncaster
>> * Newcastle
>> * York
>>
>> Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>>
>> Mark
>
>Or Eastleigh....

........ Or anywhere at all in Scotland or Wales.

MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 07/07/2022 09:02, Recliner wrote:
>> With six cities to choose from, it's unlikely that any will get more than
>> 30% of the vote. So, almost certainly, the most popular will actually not
>> be the choice of the majority who vote.
>
> I suspect the most import factors will be the number of people living
> near each proposed site and campaigns in those area.
>

Yes, probably. But, of course, those factors have nothing to do with which
would actually be the best location for the HQ.

I wonder if they actually plan to move large numbers of NR and DfT staff
there, or will it just be a token HQ, with most staff staying where they
are? If the former, a lot of experienced people will choose not to go, as
already happened when NR moved to MK.

In message <ta64nu$av6p$2@dont-email.me>, at 08:15:58 on Thu, 7 Jul
2022, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>> On 07/07/2022 09:02, Recliner wrote:
>>> With six cities to choose from, it's unlikely that any will get more than
>>> 30% of the vote. So, almost certainly, the most popular will actually not
>>> be the choice of the majority who vote.
>>
>> I suspect the most import factors will be the number of people living
>> near each proposed site and campaigns in those area.
>
>Yes, probably. But, of course, those factors have nothing to do with which
>would actually be the best location for the HQ.
>
>I wonder if they actually plan to move large numbers of NR and DfT staff
>there, or will it just be a token HQ, with most staff staying where they
>are? If the former, a lot of experienced people will choose not to go, as
>already happened when NR moved to MK.

Or when the BBC moved a lot of their production from London to
Mediocrity.
--
Roland Perry

In message <a14dchhrgpg8po7ph33h5j2rjhsvjqeq0j@4ax.com>, at 08:51:39 on
Thu, 7 Jul 2022, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
remarked:
>On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 07:24:40 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <ta4t75$4p02$1@dont-email.me>, at 22:01:25 on Wed, 6 Jul
>>2022, MB <MB@nospam.net> remarked:
>>
>>>On 06/07/2022 12:34, Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>>
>>>It is a non-binding poll so they do not have to pay any attention to it.
>>
>>The role of a poll is often more than to pay any serious attention to
>>the result. They can be to give the public the mistaken impression that
>>the organisation is "listening", rather than being dictatorial.
>>
>>This particular poll, however, seems likely to piss off all the people
>>who voted for somewhere other than the final choice, especially if the
>>final choice is *not* the one which won the poll.
>
>If they've got any sense, they won't announce the winner of the poll
>per se. They'll just annunce the overall winner, in a statement that
>says something like "After considering industry submissions and the
>outcome of the public consultation, we have decided that the HQ of GBR
>will be at....".

They've shown a lack of sense by having the poll at all. In any event,
wouldn't someone be able to FOI the numbers?
--
Roland Perry

In message <m75dcht963sjhfeeehbrri543ib0cc2145@4ax.com>, at 09:11:28 on
Thu, 7 Jul 2022, John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> remarked:
>On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:50:01 +0100, ColinR
><rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On 05/07/2022 10:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>> The quest to find an HQ for Great British Railways has now reached a
>>> shortlist of six, with the general public invited to vote on their
>>> preference:
>>>
>>> https://gbrtt.co.uk/hq-competition-public-vote/
>>>
>>> The shortlisted cities are, in alphabetical order:
>>>
>>> * Birmingham
>>> * Crewe
>>> * Derby
>>> * Doncaster
>>> * Newcastle
>>> * York
>>>
>>> Railfans of a certain ilk will no doubt be spitting feathers that
>>> Swindon didn't make the shortlist.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
>>Or Eastleigh....
>
>....... Or anywhere at all in Scotland or Wales.

Scotland would be rather odd, considering Scotrail is separately
governed from Holyrood. And Wales almost as much from Cardiff.

If the objective is to have something near the "centre of gravity" of
the railway system, I hate to say it but Milton Keynes isn't that far
off.
--
Roland Perry

On 07/07/2022 08:51, Mark Goodge wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 07:24:40 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> In message <ta4t75$4p02$1@dont-email.me>, at 22:01:25 on Wed, 6 Jul
>> 2022, MB <MB@nospam.net> remarked:
>>
>>> On 06/07/2022 12:34, Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>>
>>> It is a non-binding poll so they do not have to pay any attention to it.
>>
>> The role of a poll is often more than to pay any serious attention to
>> the result. They can be to give the public the mistaken impression that
>> the organisation is "listening", rather than being dictatorial.
>>
>> This particular poll, however, seems likely to piss off all the people
>> who voted for somewhere other than the final choice, especially if the
>> final choice is *not* the one which won the poll.
>
> If they've got any sense, they won't announce the winner of the poll
> per se. They'll just annunce the overall winner, in a statement that
> says something like "After considering industry submissions and the
> outcome of the public consultation, we have decided that the HQ of GBR
> will be at....".
>

Kigali

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

On 07/07/2022 09:25, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <a14dchhrgpg8po7ph33h5j2rjhsvjqeq0j@4ax.com>, at 08:51:39 on
> Thu, 7 Jul 2022, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> remarked:
>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 07:24:40 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <ta4t75$4p02$1@dont-email.me>, at 22:01:25 on Wed, 6 Jul
>>> 2022, MB <MB@nospam.net> remarked:
>>>
>>>> On 06/07/2022 12:34, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Given the complex decisions required to pick a national HQ site, I'm
>>>>> baffled they think that a nostalgia poll by the public has any role.
>>>>
>>>> It is a non-binding poll so they do not have to pay any attention to
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> The role of a poll is often more than to pay any serious attention to
>>> the result. They can be to give the public the mistaken impression that
>>> the organisation is "listening", rather than being dictatorial.
>>>
>>> This particular poll, however, seems likely to piss off all the people
>>> who voted for somewhere other than the final choice, especially if the
>>> final choice is *not* the one which won the poll.
>>
>> If they've got any sense, they won't announce the winner of the poll
>> per se. They'll just annunce the overall winner, in a statement that
>> says something like "After considering industry submissions and the
>> outcome of the public consultation, we have decided that the HQ of GBR
>> will be at....".
>
> They've shown a lack of sense by having the poll at all. In any event,
> wouldn't someone be able to FOI the numbers?

Apart from people like us, is anybody going to care?

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Graeme Wall
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