On 21/09/2021 10:49 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 06:17:36 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 20/09/2021 9:00 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>>>> BOOHOO
>>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go hide
>>>> in a fricking cave.
>>>
>>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which was in
>>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>>
>>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>
>> From serious illness or death you are mostly protected it. None of the
>> vaccines stop 100% stop you catching and spreading it. Hence we
>> shouldn't open till everybody has had a chance of vaccination
>>
> Apparently not protected enough to not be treated like a leper!
>

It's the un-vaccinated who are being treated as lepers, you expression

On 21/09/2021 10:37 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>> I am fully vaccinated and totally support vaccination and the
>>>>>>>> current restrictions. On the other hand I am totally opposed to
>>>>>>>> the mandating of vaccination for workplaces (with some
>>>>>>>> exceptions) and the mandating of vaccination to enter businesses
>>>>>>>> as it is discrimination against those who can't get vaccinated
>>>>>>>> for medical reasons
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is trivially handled by allowing them to do what the
>>>>>>> vaccinated can do.
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if "the unvaccinated" can do exactly what "the vaccinated" can
>>>>>> do, why bother getting vaccinated??
>>>>>
>>>>> That was a comment about those who can't get vaccinated for medical
>>>>> reasons
>>>
>>>> So you will be shut out
>>>
>>> Nope, because nowhere I shop will be stupid enough to ban the
>>> unvaccinated.
>
>> Is that all you leave your hoarder house for?
>
> Nope, but none of what I leave the house for will be stupid enough to
> ban the unvaccinated.

What do you leave your hoarder house for?

On 21/09/2021 11:11 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Daniel65 wrote
>>>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>
>>>>> BOOHOO
>>>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go hide
>>>>> in a fricking cave.
>>>>
>>>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which
>>>> was in
>>>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>>>
>>>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>>>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>>
>>> From serious illness or death you are mostly protected it. None of the
>>> vaccines stop 100% stop you catching and spreading it. Hence we
>>> shouldn't open till everybody has had a chance of vaccination
>>>
>> Apparently not protected enough to not be treated like a leper!
>
> Yep, Singapore with over 80% fully vaccinated now is getting
> as bad a result as Sydney now.
>
> And New Zealand with nowhere even remotely like
> that is doing vastly better than Victoria and NSW.
>
> The vaccination is being vastly overrated but
> does help a lot with severe disease and death.

The other option is to remain like you, gollum like in your hoarder house.

On 21/09/2021 10:47 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 21:00:46 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>>> BOOHOO
>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go hide
>>> in a fricking cave.
>>
>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which was in
>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>
>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>
> Turns out the AZ is superior to Pfizer.
> No booster yet needed
> But smells a bit as you stated the suspicion or reality
> "So, if "the unvaccinated" can do exactly what "the vaccinated" can
> do, why bother getting vaccinated??"

To give yourself the best chance of not getting severely ill or dying
from COVID and to reduce the chance of spreading the joy

Of course with 90% fully vaccinated in NSW by October up from the
current 50.1% eligible vaccinated we should be better off. Oh wait that
was pez telling the group that so is bullshit

> Exactally, there needs to be a simple covid vaccinated passport not
> the A4 certificate you have to download or get Centrelink to post you
> the offical one (Green paper with forge proof text?).
> Or are we being had again?
>

On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 11:11:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>Daniel65 wrote
>>>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>
>>>>> BOOHOO
>>>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go hide
>>>>> in a fricking cave.
>>>>
>>>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which was in
>>>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>>>
>>>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>>>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>>
>>> From serious illness or death you are mostly protected it. None of the
>>>vaccines stop 100% stop you catching and spreading it. Hence we
>>>shouldn't open till everybody has had a chance of vaccination
>>>
>> Apparently not protected enough to not be treated like a leper!
>
>Yep, Singapore with over 80% fully vaccinated now is getting
>as bad a result as Sydney now.
>
>And New Zealand with nowhere even remotely like
>that is doing vastly better than Victoria and NSW.
>
>The vaccination is being vastly overrated but
>does help a lot with severe disease and death.
>
Perhaps Clive Palmer has a point?
https://youtu.be/pDkNHmCYPw4
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 12:08:40 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 21/09/2021 11:11 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> Daniel65 wrote
>>>>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>>
>>>>>> BOOHOO
>>>>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>>>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>>>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go hide
>>>>>> in a fricking cave.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which
>>>>> was in
>>>>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>>>>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>>>
>>>> From serious illness or death you are mostly protected it. None of the
>>>> vaccines stop 100% stop you catching and spreading it. Hence we
>>>> shouldn't open till everybody has had a chance of vaccination
>>>>
>>> Apparently not protected enough to not be treated like a leper!
>>
>> Yep, Singapore with over 80% fully vaccinated now is getting
>> as bad a result as Sydney now.
>>
>> And New Zealand with nowhere even remotely like
>> that is doing vastly better than Victoria and NSW.
>>
>> The vaccination is being vastly overrated but
>> does help a lot with severe disease and death.
>
>The other option is to remain like you, gollum like in your hoarder house.
>
Everyone and my neighbours are double vaxed but still have to remain
in lockdown?
Listen to Clive Palmer without having a aneurysm
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 11:50:25 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 21/09/2021 10:49 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 06:17:36 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/09/2021 9:00 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>>>>> BOOHOO
>>>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go hide
>>>>> in a fricking cave.
>>>>
>>>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which was in
>>>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>>>
>>>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>>>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>>
>>> From serious illness or death you are mostly protected it. None of the
>>> vaccines stop 100% stop you catching and spreading it. Hence we
>>> shouldn't open till everybody has had a chance of vaccination
>>>
>> Apparently not protected enough to not be treated like a leper!
>>
>
>It's the un-vaccinated who are being treated as lepers, you expression
>
Rubbish makes no difference.
Put off the car service for a year now its over my 5 Klm area!
Going to get it done anyway everyone is double vaccinated
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

snip

>>> The vaccination is being vastly overrated but
>>> does help a lot with severe disease and death.
>>
>> The other option is to remain like you, gollum like in your hoarder house.
>>
> Everyone and my neighbours are double vaxed but still have to remain
> in lockdown?

Yes, Campbelltown is only 55.1% vaccinated for the over 15s lagging well
behind my LGA. However as you claim NSW will be 90% vaccinated by Oct
you will be off your park bench soon

> Listen to Clive Palmer without having a aneurysm

You meant the dude that purchased 32,900,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine?
>

On 21/09/2021 1:04 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 11:50:25 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 21/09/2021 10:49 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 06:17:36 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/09/2021 9:00 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>>>>>> BOOHOO
>>>>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>>>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>>>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go hide
>>>>>> in a fricking cave.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which was in
>>>>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>>>>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>>>
>>>> From serious illness or death you are mostly protected it. None of the
>>>> vaccines stop 100% stop you catching and spreading it. Hence we
>>>> shouldn't open till everybody has had a chance of vaccination
>>>>
>>> Apparently not protected enough to not be treated like a leper!
>>>
>>
>> It's the un-vaccinated who are being treated as lepers, you expression
>>
> Rubbish makes no difference.
> Put off the car service for a year now its over my 5 Klm area!
> Going to get it done anyway everyone is double vaccinated

Thanks for the heads up as you have previously claimed to be to blind to
drive.

55.1% 15+ vaccinated in Shitboxville

snip

>>> The vaccination is being vastly overrated but
>>> does help a lot with severe disease and death.
>>
>> The other option is to remain like you, gollum like in your hoarder house.
>>
> Everyone and my neighbours are double vaxed but still have to remain
> in lockdown?

Yes, Campbelltown is only 55.1% vaccinated for the over 15s lagging well
behind my LGA. However as you claim NSW will be 90% vaccinated by Oct
you will be off your park bench soon

> Listen to Clive Palmer without having a aneurysm

You meant the dude that purchased 32,900,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine?
>

snip

>>> The vaccination is being vastly overrated but
>>> does help a lot with severe disease and death.
>>
>> The other option is to remain like you, gollum like in your hoarder house.
>>
> Everyone and my neighbours are double vaxed but still have to remain
> in lockdown?

Yes, Campbelltown is only 55.1% vaccinated for the over 15s lagging well
behind my LGA. However as you claim NSW will be 90% vaccinated by Oct
you will be off your park bench soon

> Listen to Clive Palmer without having a aneurysm

You meant the dude that purchased 32,900,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine?
>

On 20/09/2021 8:37 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Peter Jason wrote on 14/9/21 9:54 am:
>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:53:55 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am fully vaccinated and totally support vaccination and the current
>>> restrictions.
>> Hear! Hear!
>>
>>> On the other hand I am totally opposed to the mandating of
>>> vaccination for workplaces (with some exceptions) and the mandating of
>>> vaccination to enter businesses as it is discrimination against those
>>> who can't get vaccinated for medical reasons or who won't for religious,
>>> crazed personal beliefs etc.
>>
>> Nonsense. Why not have it the other way where wakos and geeks carry ID
>> to the fact, giving businesses the option to exclude them?
>
> How are you going to enforce this??
>
> If a Shop owner asks a customer if the customer is vaccinated and the
> customer replies "Yeah, sure, double dosed with pfisher, me!!", how
> would the Shop owner be able to prove otherwise??
>
> "Show me your immunisation card."   "Nope, I'm fully vaxed so I don't
> have one!"
>
> Sure that's gunna work!

Young people who look really young are asked to show ID if they try to
buy from bottle shops (or drink in a pub) so I can't see a problem with
being asked to show proof of being double dosed.

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am fully vaccinated and totally support vaccination and the
>>>>>>>>> current restrictions. On the other hand I am totally opposed to
>>>>>>>>> the mandating of vaccination for workplaces (with some exceptions)
>>>>>>>>> and the mandating of vaccination to enter businesses as it is
>>>>>>>>> discrimination against those who can't get vaccinated for medical
>>>>>>>>> reasons
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is trivially handled by allowing them to do what the
>>>>>>>> vaccinated can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, if "the unvaccinated" can do exactly what "the vaccinated" can
>>>>>>> do, why bother getting vaccinated??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was a comment about those who can't get vaccinated for medical
>>>>>> reasons
>>>>
>>>>> So you will be shut out
>>>>
>>>> Nope, because nowhere I shop will be stupid enough to ban the
>>>> unvaccinated.
>>
>>> Is that all you leave your hoarder house for?
>>
>> Nope, but none of what I leave the house for will be stupid enough to ban
>> the unvaccinated.
>
> What do you leave your hoarder house for?

Whatever I feel like doing and it isn't a hoarder house either, you tax
parasite.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>Daniel65 wrote
>>>>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>>
>>>>>> BOOHOO
>>>>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>>>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>>>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go
>>>>>> hide
>>>>>> in a fricking cave.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which was
>>>>> in
>>>>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>>>>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>>>
>>>> From serious illness or death you are mostly protected it. None of the
>>>>vaccines stop 100% stop you catching and spreading it. Hence we
>>>>shouldn't open till everybody has had a chance of vaccination
>>>>
>>> Apparently not protected enough to not be treated like a leper!
>>
>>Yep, Singapore with over 80% fully vaccinated now is getting
>>as bad a result as Sydney now.
>>
>>And New Zealand with nowhere even remotely like
>>that is doing vastly better than Victoria and NSW.
>>
>>The vaccination is being vastly overrated but
>>does help a lot with severe disease and death.

> Perhaps Clive Palmer has a point?
> https://youtu.be/pDkNHmCYPw4

Nope, he never does. Just another mindless conspiracy theory.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Daniel65 wrote
>>>>>> Miss Prendergast wrote on 14/9/21 10:33 pm:
>>>
>>>>>>> BOOHOO
>>>>>>> The company for which I work requires field staff to have tetanus
>>>>>>> injection. And that is not an infectious disease.
>>>>>>> For something like COVID Delta everybody should get it or else go
>>>>>>> hide
>>>>>>> in a fricking cave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which has me wondering .... I've been double dosed with AZ, which
>>>>>> was in
>>>>>> testing/production *BEFORE* Delta showed up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I really protected from CoViD Delta .... or, what's the latest
>>>>>> version, CoViD Mu??
>>>>>
>>>>> From serious illness or death you are mostly protected it. None of the
>>>>> vaccines stop 100% stop you catching and spreading it. Hence we
>>>>> shouldn't open till everybody has had a chance of vaccination
>>>>>
>>>> Apparently not protected enough to not be treated like a leper!
>>>
>>> Yep, Singapore with over 80% fully vaccinated now is getting
>>> as bad a result as Sydney now.
>>>
>>> And New Zealand with nowhere even remotely like
>>> that is doing vastly better than Victoria and NSW.
>>>
>>> The vaccination is being vastly overrated but
>>> does help a lot with severe disease and death.
>>
>>The other option is to remain like you, gollum like in your hoarder house.
>>
> Everyone and my neighbours are double vaxed but still have to remain
> in lockdown?

Because the whole of sydney isn't double vaxed.

> Listen to Clive Palmer without having a aneurysm

No thanks, that fool has never had a clue.

snip

>>> Nope, but none of what I leave the house for will be stupid enough to
>>> ban the unvaccinated.
>>
>> What do you leave your hoarder house for?
>
> Whatever I feel like doing and it isn't a hoarder house either, you tax
> parasite.

So you are not isolated (as you claimed you were) and won't get
vaccinated. Fair enough

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote

>>>> Nope, but none of what I leave the house for will
>>>> be stupid enough to ban the unvaccinated.
>>>
>>> What do you leave your hoarder house for?
>>
>> Whatever I feel like doing and it isn't a hoarder house either, you tax
>> parasite.
>
> So you are not isolated (as you claimed you were)

I never said that, you silly little pathological liar.

> and won't get vaccinated.

I never said that either, you silly little pathological liar.

Fran wrote on 21/9/21 1:47 pm:
> On 20/09/2021 8:37 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Peter Jason wrote on 14/9/21 9:54 am:
>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:53:55 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am fully vaccinated and totally support vaccination and the current
>>>> restrictions.
>>> Hear! Hear!
>>>
>>>> On the other hand I am totally opposed to the mandating of
>>>> vaccination for workplaces (with some exceptions) and the mandating of
>>>> vaccination to enter businesses as it is discrimination against those
>>>> who can't get vaccinated for medical reasons or who won't for
>>>> religious, crazed personal beliefs etc.
>>>
>>> Nonsense. Why not have it the other way where wakos and geeks carry ID
>>> to the fact, giving businesses the option to exclude them?
>>
>> How are you going to enforce this??
>>
>> If a Shop owner asks a customer if the customer is vaccinated and the
>> customer replies "Yeah, sure, double dosed with pfisher, me!!", how
>> would the Shop owner be able to prove otherwise??
>>
>> "Show me your immunisation card."   "Nope, I'm fully vaxed so I don't
>> have one!"
>>
>> Sure that's gunna work!
>
> Young people who look really young are asked to show ID if they try to
> buy from bottle shops (or drink in a pub) so I can't see a problem with
> being asked to show proof of being double dosed.
>
If you can't provide proof that you are old enough, you can't purchase
your booze! Fair enough.

If you can't provide proof that you are double dosed, that *MUST* mean
you *ARE* Double dosed! Doesn't make sense!

Apart from my not working out how I can show proof yet, I can't see a
problem with being required either!
--
Daniel

Rod Speed wrote on 21/9/21 4:12 am:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> I am fully vaccinated and totally support vaccination and the
>>>> current restrictions. On the other hand I am totally opposed to the
>>>> mandating of vaccination for workplaces (with some exceptions) and
>>>> the mandating of vaccination to enter businesses as it is
>>>> discrimination against those who can't get vaccinated for medical
>>>> reasons
>
>>> That is trivially handled by allowing them to do what the vaccinated
>>> can do.
>
>> So, if "the unvaccinated" can do exactly what "the vaccinated" can do,
>> why bother getting vaccinated??
>
> That was a comment about those who can't get vaccinated for medical reasons

Not a problem .... except they should be able to show that they are not
required to get vaccinated .... not just they haven't gotten vaccinated!
--
Daniel

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> I am fully vaccinated and totally support vaccination and the current
>>>>> restrictions. On the other hand I am totally opposed to the mandating
>>>>> of vaccination for workplaces (with some exceptions) and the mandating
>>>>> of vaccination to enter businesses as it is discrimination against
>>>>> those who can't get vaccinated for medical reasons
>>
>>>> That is trivially handled by allowing them to do what the vaccinated
>>>> can do.
>>
>>> So, if "the unvaccinated" can do exactly what "the vaccinated" can do,
>>> why bother getting vaccinated??
>>
>> That was a comment about those who can't get vaccinated for medical
>> reasons
>
> Not a problem .... except they should be able to show that they are not
> required to get vaccinated .... not just they haven't gotten vaccinated!

Yeah, that’s what I meant.

On 21/09/2021 7:26 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Fran wrote on 21/9/21 1:47 pm:
>> On 20/09/2021 8:37 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Peter Jason wrote on 14/9/21 9:54 am:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:53:55 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am fully vaccinated and totally support vaccination and the current
>>>>> restrictions.
>>>> Hear! Hear!
>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand I am totally opposed to the mandating of
>>>>> vaccination for workplaces (with some exceptions) and the mandating of
>>>>> vaccination to enter businesses as it is discrimination against those
>>>>> who can't get vaccinated for medical reasons or who won't for
>>>>> religious, crazed personal beliefs etc.
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense. Why not have it the other way where wakos and geeks carry ID
>>>> to the fact, giving businesses the option to exclude them?
>>>
>>> How are you going to enforce this??
>>>
>>> If a Shop owner asks a customer if the customer is vaccinated and the
>>> customer replies "Yeah, sure, double dosed with pfisher, me!!", how
>>> would the Shop owner be able to prove otherwise??
>>>
>>> "Show me your immunisation card."   "Nope, I'm fully vaxed so I don't
>>> have one!"
>>>
>>> Sure that's gunna work!
>>
>> Young people who look really young are asked to show ID if they try to
>> buy from bottle shops (or drink in a pub) so I can't see a problem
>> with being asked to show proof of being double dosed.
>>
> If you can't provide proof that you are old enough, you can't purchase
> your booze! Fair enough.
>
> If you can't provide proof that you are double dosed, that *MUST* mean
> you *ARE* Double dosed! Doesn't make sense!

Um, no! The opposite.
>
> Apart from my not working out how I can show proof yet, I can't see a
> problem with being required either!

Well you and I just need to get our piece of paper out of our computers
or from the govt.

Fran wrote on 22/9/21 9:50 am:
> On 21/09/2021 7:26 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Fran wrote on 21/9/21 1:47 pm:
>>> On 20/09/2021 8:37 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> Peter Jason wrote on 14/9/21 9:54 am:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:53:55 +1000, Dechucka
>>>>> <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am fully vaccinated and totally support vaccination and
>>>>>> the current restrictions.
>>>>> Hear! Hear!
>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand I am totally opposed to the mandating of
>>>>>> vaccination for workplaces (with some exceptions) and the
>>>>>> mandating of vaccination to enter businesses as it is
>>>>>> discrimination against those who can't get vaccinated for
>>>>>> medical reasons or who won't for religious, crazed
>>>>>> personal beliefs etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense. Why not have it the other way where wakos and
>>>>> geeks carry ID to the fact, giving businesses the option to
>>>>> exclude them?
>>>>
>>>> How are you going to enforce this??
>>>>
>>>> If a Shop owner asks a customer if the customer is vaccinated
>>>> and the customer replies "Yeah, sure, double dosed with
>>>> pfisher, me!!", how would the Shop owner be able to prove
>>>> otherwise??
>>>>
>>>> "Show me your immunisation card." "Nope, I'm fully vaxed so
>>>> I don't have one!"
>>>>
>>>> Sure that's gunna work!
>>>
>>> Young people who look really young are asked to show ID if they
>>> try to buy from bottle shops (or drink in a pub) so I can't see
>>> a problem with being asked to show proof of being double dosed.
>>>
>> If you can't provide proof that you are old enough, you can't
>> purchase your booze! Fair enough.
>>
>> If you can't provide proof that you are double dosed, that *MUST*
>> mean you *ARE* Double dosed! Doesn't make sense!
>
> Um, no! The opposite.

Sorry! Am I mis-reading or something?? Didn't Peter post ...

Quote
>>>>> Nonsense. Why not have it the other way where wakos and
>>>>> geeks carry ID to the fact, giving businesses the option to
>>>>> exclude them?
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Isn't that suggesting that if I'm not inoculated, I have to carry ID
indicating I'm not inoculated??

>> Apart from my not working out how I can show proof yet, I can't
>> see a problem with being required either!
>
> Well you and I just need to get our piece of paper out of our
> computers or from the govt.
>
But haven't you heard how these paper things are being forged?? Seems to
me, if I can go on-line and show proof, that works better.
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Daniel

Dechucka wrote on 16/9/21 10:41 am:
> On 16/09/2021 10:25 am, Petzl wrote:

<Snip>

>> It was these Harold Holt conspiracy stories that forced Victoria Labor
>> to make a statement!
>
> Harold Holt is dead his body was buried under the handball court at the
> Bondi Icebergs as revealed by one of Australia's leading historians. :-)
> Cite "The Day of the Gecko"

Bloody HELL. Holt must have been a champion swimmer, swimming from
Portsea, Vic, to Bondi, N.S.W.!!
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Daniel

Petzl wrote on 16/9/21 11:27 am:
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 11:22:26 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 16/09/2021 10:25 am, Petzl wrote:
>>
>> To be fair he is not mad enough to push the
>>>> Andrew's beaten up by Fox conspiracy afaik.
>>>
>>> But that was hilarious. Dan Andrews disappeared for a time and no
>>> explanation of where he went to or why he went?
>>
>> You do keep proving your moron status.
>> Andrews did disappear because, as everyone knows except you, he was
>> recovering from his fall
>>
> Turned out he was in Hawaii drinking "Mai tai cocktails" enjoying
> himself.
> https://ibb.co/89C4wZF
>>
Oh! Yeah! I'll believe Plaster-man is Dan Andrews! ..... *NOT* !!
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Daniel

SNIP

> Isn't that suggesting that if I'm not inoculated, I have to carry ID
> indicating I'm not inoculated??

Much easier, the unvaccinated will need to carry a bell to be rung every
15 seconds accompanied by the words "unclean, Kelly is a crank"