https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)

"I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
country and history will treat him accordingly.

Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to the nation
and we should all be grateful for his dedication."

On 27/08/2021 6:17 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
> https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)

it tis james

>
> "I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
> than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
> country and history will treat him accordingly.
>
> Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to the nation
> and we should all be grateful for his dedication."

For those who can't get Yhe AUS SKY commentator Richo can be seen
praising Howard here.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/i-have-enormous-respect-for-john-howard-richo/video/c53de29516d290d30602ed488edbac5b

What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag us
into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with dogs on
the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the 1950s, the
One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and losing his seat

The typical LNP troll diatribe after transmogrification into Mountain
Magpie

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PLONK as usual!

Pfff, it feels good!

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On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:17:44 -0000, Mountain Magpie
<Leuta@bluemountains.org> wrote:

>https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)
>
>"I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
>than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
>country and history will treat him accordingly.
>
>Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to the nation
>and we should all be grateful for his dedication."

LOL, well of course he would. Just another classic political hack.

Who in their right mind would consider Howard one of our better PMs?

In the past 60 years at least, it's a toss up between Howard and Scomo
who has been the worst PM. Only time will tell which one causes more
long term damage to Australia.

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Mountain Magpie wrote

>> https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)
>
> it tis james
>
>>
>> "I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
>> than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
>> country and history will treat him accordingly.
>>
>> Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to the nation
>> and we should all be grateful for his dedication."
>
> For those who can't get Yhe AUS SKY commentator Richo can be seen praising
> Howard here.
> https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/i-have-enormous-respect-for-john-howard-richo/video/c53de29516d290d30602ed488edbac5b
>
> What was Howard's legacy?

Decent stable govt for longer than anyone else other than Ming.

<reams of your mindless shit flushed where it belongs>

On 27/08/2021 7:44 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Mountain Magpie wrote
>
>>> https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)
>>
>> it tis james
>>
>>>
>>> "I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
>>> than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
>>> country and history will treat him accordingly.
>>>
>>> Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to the nation
>>> and we should all be grateful for his dedication."
>>
>> For those who can't get Yhe AUS SKY commentator Richo can be seen
>> praising Howard here.
>> https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/i-have-enormous-respect-for-john-howard-richo/video/c53de29516d290d30602ed488edbac5b
>>
>>
>> What was Howard's legacy?
>
> Decent stable govt for longer than anyone else other than Ming.

Certainly not decent, Lying to the Australian population to drag us into
a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with dogs on the
wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the 1950s, the One
Australia policy, .
China has got stable government so that isn't something to be proud of.

Howard led an amazingly decisive period in Australia's history. The good
thing he did economically was to push the GST but of course managed to
totally screw up the implemrnarion
>
> <reams of your mindless shit flushed where it belongs>
>
>

Sarah Tonen <hoar@moan.net> wrote
> Mountain Magpie <Leuta@bluemountains.org> wrote
>>https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)
>>
>>"I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
>>than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
>>country and history will treat him accordingly.
>>
>>Only a precious fewcould match Howard's contribution to the nation
>>and we should all be grateful for his dedication."
>
> LOL, well of course he would. Just another classic political hack.
>
> Who in their right mind would consider Howard one of our better PMs?

Who do you claim is ?
> In the past 60 years at least, it's a toss up between
> Howard and Scomo who has been the worst PM.

Mindlessly silly given McMahon, Forde, Rudd, Gillard.

> Only time will tell which one causes more long term damage to Australia.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:foydnR9CS8A5j7X8nZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
> On 27/08/2021 7:44 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Mountain Magpie wrote
>>
>>>> https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)
>>>
>>> it tis james
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
>>>> than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
>>>> country and history will treat him accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to the nation
>>>> and we should all be grateful for his dedication."
>>>
>>> For those who can't get Yhe AUS SKY commentator Richo can be seen
>>> praising Howard here.
>>> https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/i-have-enormous-respect-for-john-howard-richo/video/c53de29516d290d30602ed488edbac5b
>>>
>>> What was Howard's legacy?
>>
>> Decent stable govt for longer than anyone else other than Ming.
>
> Certainly not decent,

The voters clearly felt otherwise.

<reams of your mindless shit flushed where it belongs>

snip
>> Certainly not decent,
>
> The voters clearly felt otherwise.

They felt he was better than the other mob doesn't make him decent
>
> <reams of your mindless shit flushed where it belongs>

The facts about Howard's time as PM upset you obviously
>
>

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> Certainly not decent,
>> The voters clearly felt otherwise.

<reams of your mindless shit flushed where it belongs>

On 27/08/2021 8:55 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> Certainly not decent,
>
>>> The voters clearly felt otherwise.
>
> <reams of your mindless shit flushed where it belongs>
>
You've run-away early

On 27/08/2021 7:23 am, Dechucka wrote:

> What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag us
> into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with dogs on
> the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the 1950s, the
> One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and losing his seat

He also did the gun buyback so that was good. The think that gave me
the shits about him was that his time as PM was a time of great boom and
he did nothing at all in terms of infrastructure building as he was so
busy being a small target and keeping the populace "relaxed and
confortable" - still that all worked out in the end as all the money he
sat on allowed Oz to ride out the GFC. And, IMO, losing his seat was
also a good contribution.

On 27/08/2021 11:33 am, Fran wrote:
> On 27/08/2021 7:23 am, Dechucka wrote:
>
>> What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag
>> us into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with
>> dogs on the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the
>> 1950s, the One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and
>> losing his seat
>
> He also did the gun buyback so that was good.  The think that gave me
> the shits about him was that his time as PM was a time of great boom and
> he did nothing at all in terms of infrastructure building as he was so
> busy being a small target and keeping the populace "relaxed and
> confortable" - still that all worked out in the end as all the money he
> sat on allowed Oz to ride out the GFC.  And, IMO, losing his seat was
> also a good contribution.

OK the gun buy-back and INTERFET. Agree that he wasted the good times

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Certainly not decent,
>>>> The voters clearly felt otherwise.
<reams of your mindless shit flushed where it belongs>

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 08:38:31 +1000, Dechucka posted:-

> They felt he was better than the other mob doesn't make him decent

You and your latte sipping ilk may not think so, but obviously it
didn't trouble the voters.

On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 06:41:33 UTC+10, Mountain Magpie wrote:
> https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)
>
> "I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
> than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
> country and history will treat him accordingly.

Family values were getting crushed, and he did what he could to restore them.
> Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to the nation
> and we should all be grateful for his dedication."

On the other hand he cut down on research - meaning I lost my job - and made the nation stupid which was the opposite of what Keating wanted.
Poor chaps cannot even handle a mild virus like Covid.
Their modelling is a joke.

banerjee...@gmail.com <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Mountain Magpie wrote

>> https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)

>> "I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
>> than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
>> country and history will treat him accordingly.

> Family values were getting crushed,

Bullshit they were.

> and he did what he could to restore them.

Bullshit he did.

>> Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to
>> the nation and we should all be grateful for his dedication."

> On the other hand he cut down on research - meaning I lost my job

Because you were one of the useless researchers.

> - and made the nation stupid

Even sillier than you usually manage and that’s saying something.

> which was the opposite of what Keating wanted.
> Poor chaps cannot even handle a mild virus like Covid.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that’s saying something.

> Their modelling is a joke.

We'll see...

Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com> wrote in news:sg9fdj$e08$1@dont-email.me:

> On 27/08/2021 7:23 am, Dechucka wrote:
>
>> What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag
>> us into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with
>> dogs on the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the
>> 1950s, the One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and
>> losing his seat
>
> He also did the gun buyback so that was good. The think that gave me
> the shits about him was that his time as PM was a time of great boom
> and he did nothing at all in terms of infrastructure building as he
> was so busy being a small target and keeping the populace "relaxed and
> confortable" - still that all worked out in the end as all the money
> he sat on allowed Oz to ride out the GFC. And, IMO, losing his seat
> was also a good contribution.

And he grew great eye brows, Something to aspire too.

On 27/08/2021 2:19 pm, Wotawonderfulworld wrote:
> Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com> wrote in news:sg9fdj$e08$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 27/08/2021 7:23 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>
>>> What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag
>>> us into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with
>>> dogs on the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the
>>> 1950s, the One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and
>>> losing his seat
>>
>> He also did the gun buyback so that was good. The think that gave me
>> the shits about him was that his time as PM was a time of great boom
>> and he did nothing at all in terms of infrastructure building as he
>> was so busy being a small target and keeping the populace "relaxed and
>> confortable" - still that all worked out in the end as all the money
>> he sat on allowed Oz to ride out the GFC. And, IMO, losing his seat
>> was also a good contribution.
>
> And he grew great eye brows, Something to aspire too.
>
but had them chopped off at one stage in a make-over that he denied

On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 14:19:41 UTC+10, Wotawonderfulworld wrote:
> Fran <f2r...@loonynutters.com> wrote in news:sg9fdj$e08$1...@dont-email.me:
> > On 27/08/2021 7:23 am, Dechucka wrote:
> >
> >> What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag
> >> us into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with
> >> dogs on the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the
> >> 1950s, the One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and
> >> losing his seat
> >
> > He also did the gun buyback so that was good. The think that gave me
> > the shits about him was that his time as PM was a time of great boom
> > and he did nothing at all in terms of infrastructure building as he
> > was so busy being a small target and keeping the populace "relaxed and
> > confortable" - still that all worked out in the end as all the money
> > he sat on allowed Oz to ride out the GFC. And, IMO, losing his seat
> > was also a good contribution.
> And he grew great eye brows, Something to aspire too.
His greatest asset in politics, no doubt inspired confidence.

On 27/08/2021 2:19 pm, Wotawonderfulworld wrote:
> Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com> wrote in news:sg9fdj$e08$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 27/08/2021 7:23 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>
>>> What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag
>>> us into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with
>>> dogs on the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the
>>> 1950s, the One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and
>>> losing his seat
>>
>> He also did the gun buyback so that was good. The think that gave me
>> the shits about him was that his time as PM was a time of great boom
>> and he did nothing at all in terms of infrastructure building as he
>> was so busy being a small target and keeping the populace "relaxed and
>> confortable" - still that all worked out in the end as all the money
>> he sat on allowed Oz to ride out the GFC. And, IMO, losing his seat
>> was also a good contribution.
>
> And he grew great eye brows, Something to aspire too.

Ming's were better ;-P

Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com> wrote in news:sg9uso$nac$1@dont-email.me:

> On 27/08/2021 2:19 pm, Wotawonderfulworld wrote:
>> Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com> wrote in news:sg9fdj$e08$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 27/08/2021 7:23 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>
>>>> What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag
>>>> us into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with
>>>> dogs on the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the
>>>> 1950s, the One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and
>>>> losing his seat
>>>
>>> He also did the gun buyback so that was good. The think that gave me
>>> the shits about him was that his time as PM was a time of great boom
>>> and he did nothing at all in terms of infrastructure building as he
>>> was so busy being a small target and keeping the populace "relaxed and
>>> confortable" - still that all worked out in the end as all the money
>>> he sat on allowed Oz to ride out the GFC. And, IMO, losing his seat
>>> was also a good contribution.
>>
>> And he grew great eye brows, Something to aspire too.
>
> Ming's were better ;-P
>
>

Been training mibe since Sir R left office, Just can't quite get them to
hang over the glasses like they did.

On 27/08/2021 4:17 pm, Wotawonderfulworld wrote:
> Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com> wrote in news:sg9uso$nac$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 27/08/2021 2:19 pm, Wotawonderfulworld wrote:
>>> Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com> wrote in news:sg9fdj$e08$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 27/08/2021 7:23 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What was Howard's legacy? Lying to the Australian population to drag
>>>>> us into a war which further destabilised the ME, balaclava men with
>>>>> dogs on the wharves, trying to socially drag Australia back to the
>>>>> 1950s, the One Australia policy, INTERFET are what I remember. Oh and
>>>>> losing his seat
>>>>
>>>> He also did the gun buyback so that was good. The think that gave me
>>>> the shits about him was that his time as PM was a time of great boom
>>>> and he did nothing at all in terms of infrastructure building as he
>>>> was so busy being a small target and keeping the populace "relaxed and
>>>> confortable" - still that all worked out in the end as all the money
>>>> he sat on allowed Oz to ride out the GFC. And, IMO, losing his seat
>>>> was also a good contribution.
>>>
>>> And he grew great eye brows, Something to aspire too.
>>
>> Ming's were better ;-P
>>
>>
>
> Been training mibe since Sir R left office, Just can't quite get them to
> hang over the glasses like they did.

:-))

Sarah Tonen wrote on 27/8/21 7:42 am:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:17:44 -0000, Mountain Magpie
> <Leuta@bluemountains.org> wrote:
>
>> https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)
>>
>> "I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
>> than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
>> country and history will treat him accordingly.
>>
>> Only a precious fewcould match Howard’s contribution to the nation
>> and we should all be grateful for his dedication."
>
> LOL, well of course he would. Just another classic political hack.
>
> Who in their right mind would consider Howard one of our better PMs?
>
> In the past 60 years at least, it's a toss up between Howard and Scomo
> who has been the worst PM. Only time will tell which one causes more
> long term damage to Australia.
>
I'd want to throw Tony Abbott into that 'toss up'! Does anyone have a
three sided coin??
--
Daniel

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 08:28:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Sarah Tonen <hoar@moan.net> wrote
>> Mountain Magpie <Leuta@bluemountains.org> wrote
>
>>>https://is.gd/8fIV19 (might be paywalled?)
>>>
>>>"I have come to regard Howard as a much more substantial politician
>>>than I did in those days. He has made a huge contribution to this
>>>country and history will treat him accordingly.
>>>
>>>Only a precious fewcould match Howard's contribution to the nation
>>>and we should all be grateful for his dedication."
>>
>> LOL, well of course he would. Just another classic political hack.
>>
>> Who in their right mind would consider Howard one of our better PMs?
>
>Who do you claim is ?

Paul Keating.

>> In the past 60 years at least, it's a toss up between
>> Howard and Scomo who has been the worst PM.
>
>Mindlessly silly given McMahon, Forde, Rudd, Gillard.
>
>> Only time will tell which one causes more long term damage to Australia.
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

The autism is strong in you. 90 years later and still the same tired
old crap. Bye.