‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
leader Viktor Orbán
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz

Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
Hungary is beyond me.

On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
> leader Viktor Orbán
> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>
>
> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
> Hungary is beyond me.

Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
they are being sold a pup.

Dechucka:

> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
> leader Viktor Orbán
> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-
letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>
> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
> Hungary is beyond me.

This is a very telling fact about Trump and Trumpists!
Trump has a totally ummasked admiration for crackpot real and wannabe
dictators (Putin and Kim Jong Un comes immediately to mind). I am
convinced he is very envious of what these strongmen are capable of
doing w/o any regard for pesky pro democracy advocates.
BTW 'Trucker" Carlson's visit to Hungary praising what Orban was able to
do smashing the opposition was just as disgusting, and very telling of
where MAGA-GOP Republicans stand politically today.

The consorted efforts by far right parties and governments conspiring
with each other and spreading far right authoritarian political agendas
globally is and increasingly will be a very serious problem for anyone
valuing democracy (obviously not just for leftists).

--
Ördög - 👹️ - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

Want to see a real Hell on Earth? Here I show you!

Just look no further than that never been great and now completely
dis-United States (and people) of America.
Thank the *Orange* man and its MAGA cultist followers for that.

This is their ideology of pure *evil*:
Capitalist neo-liberal/libertarian lies and alternate reality,
Lack of compassion for the already downtrodden,
Sociopathic greed & envy,
Endemic nepotistic and plutocratic corruption,
Vicious hunger for power and "born to rule mentality",
Xtian fundamentalism
Never ending misogyny & homophobia
Undeniable Anglo-Celtic racism and supremacy,
Unbridled hate for the underclasses,
Unrelenting vengeance seeking against political opponents...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com> wrote
> Dechucka wrote

>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>> leader Viktor Orbán
>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>> Hungary is beyond me.
>
>
> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the world
> slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and then
> moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the Soviet
> Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor, I asked
> him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me quite a
> few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes are a
> perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty repercussions
> if they didn't,

More of your mindless bullshit with the vast numbers
who burst into tears when Stalin bit the dust.

> but the yanks so often don't but go about merrily braying about how great
> the US is without ever recognising tha they are being sold a pup.

More of your mindless bullshit.

It was written by Fran:

> Dechucka
>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>> leader Viktor Orbán
>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-
letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>
>>
>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>> Hungary is beyond me.
>
>
> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
> they are being sold a pup.

Fran, why do you think I am so bloody disgusted with and allergic to
political propaganda, and why do I recognise it immediately. Anyone who
has grown up in a dictatorial regime, like I did had to learn the hard
way how to read between the lines of the supposed "news"!

Although, hard right creeps in this ng would never admit this but I am
not going soft on the devastating failures of countries under the
leadership of self proclaimed 'communist parties'!

Controlling the flow of information, restricting the free movement of
people, political meddling in the arts and sciences for instance were
quite inexcusable overreaches of the central power pursued by those
governments.

Sadly what I see is a strong advocacy by hard right political parties for
implementing the very same all over capitalist countries globally.

😵️

--
Ördög - 👹️ - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
wrote:

>On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>> leader Viktor Orbán
>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>
>>
>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>> Hungary is beyond me.
>
>
>Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>they are being sold a pup.
>
Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
Corruption wass endemic.
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money. #Sir Ronald Millar

All governments lie about some things, but Ordogs totalitarian
governments lie about everything.

On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Margaret Thatcher

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:59:04 GMT, *Ördög* <devil@your.service.org>
wrote:

>Dechucka:
>
>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>> leader Viktor Orbán
>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-
>letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>
>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>> Hungary is beyond me.
>
>This is a very telling fact about Trump and Trumpists!
>Trump has a totally ummasked admiration for crackpot real and wannabe
>dictators (Putin and Kim Jong Un comes immediately to mind). I am
>convinced he is very envious of what these strongmen are capable of
>doing w/o any regard for pesky pro democracy advocates.
>BTW 'Trucker" Carlson's visit to Hungary praising what Orban was able to
>do smashing the opposition was just as disgusting, and very telling of
>where MAGA-GOP Republicans stand politically today.
>
>The consorted efforts by far right parties and governments conspiring
>with each other and spreading far right authoritarian political agendas
>globally is and increasingly will be a very serious problem for anyone
>valuing democracy (obviously not just for leftists).
>
A armchair supposed communist craps again
Ordog you know there are famous and good Communists like a good friend
of mine.
<https://www.nzedge.com/legends/rewi-alley/>
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money. #Sir Ronald Millar

All governments lie about some things, but Ordogs totalitarian
governments lie about everything.

On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Margaret Thatcher

Petz

/ snip /
> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
> Corruption wass endemic.

Sorry to disappoint, Petz dear but back then in Hungary I have just
finished my primary and secondary education, I was not running anything.
Nor was I anywhere near wealthy, living with my divorced mother in two
tiny sublet rooms in Budapest struggling to make ends meet.

BTW care to point to any "corruption" committed by me, ever(your alt-
right hate and alcohol fumes induced hallucinations won't be accepted)?

Talking of endemic corruption, what do you think the Orban regime is?
Corruption is back to pre-WW2 levels. All decedents of those horrible
creeps who left the country with stolen fortunes right after the war are
now back in Hungary pushing politics into the domain of neo-fascism and
100% corruption.

--
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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ carzies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

On 1/09/2021 9:34 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:59:04 GMT, *Ördög* <devil@your.service.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dechucka:
>>
>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-
>> letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>
>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>
>> This is a very telling fact about Trump and Trumpists!
>> Trump has a totally ummasked admiration for crackpot real and wannabe
>> dictators (Putin and Kim Jong Un comes immediately to mind). I am
>> convinced he is very envious of what these strongmen are capable of
>> doing w/o any regard for pesky pro democracy advocates.
>> BTW 'Trucker" Carlson's visit to Hungary praising what Orban was able to
>> do smashing the opposition was just as disgusting, and very telling of
>> where MAGA-GOP Republicans stand politically today.
>>
>> The consorted efforts by far right parties and governments conspiring
>> with each other and spreading far right authoritarian political agendas
>> globally is and increasingly will be a very serious problem for anyone
>> valuing democracy (obviously not just for leftists).
>>
> A armchair supposed communist craps again

I'm not sure what your problem with what Ordog has posted is. In the
words of your hero "Please explain"

On 1/09/2021 8:59 am, *Ördög* wrote:
> Dechucka:
>
>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>> leader Viktor Orbán
>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-
> letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>
>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>> Hungary is beyond me.
>
> This is a very telling fact about Trump and Trumpists!
> Trump has a totally ummasked admiration for crackpot real and wannabe
> dictators (Putin and Kim Jong Un comes immediately to mind). I am
> convinced he is very envious of what these strongmen are capable of
> doing w/o any regard for pesky pro democracy advocates.

That imo i the crux of the matter. Trump in power was never happy with
the checks and balances within the US 'democracy'

> BTW 'Trucker" Carlson's visit to Hungary praising what Orban was able to
> do smashing the opposition was just as disgusting, and very telling of
> where MAGA-GOP Republicans stand politically today.
>
> The consorted efforts by far right parties and governments conspiring
> with each other and spreading far right authoritarian political agendas
> globally is and increasingly will be a very serious problem for anyone
> valuing democracy (obviously not just for leftists).
>
> --
> Ördög - 👹️ - The newsgroup Devil at your service.
>
> Want to see a real Hell on Earth? Here I show you!
>
> Just look no further than that never been great and now completely
> dis-United States (and people) of America.
> Thank the *Orange* man and its MAGA cultist followers for that.
>
> This is their ideology of pure *evil*:
> Capitalist neo-liberal/libertarian lies and alternate reality,
> Lack of compassion for the already downtrodden,
> Sociopathic greed & envy,
> Endemic nepotistic and plutocratic corruption,
> Vicious hunger for power and "born to rule mentality",
> Xtian fundamentalism
> Never ending misogyny & homophobia
> Undeniable Anglo-Celtic racism and supremacy,
> Unbridled hate for the underclasses,
> Unrelenting vengeance seeking against political opponents...
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>

On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>
>>>
>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>
>>
>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>> they are being sold a pup.
>>
> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
> Corruption wass endemic.

'Was' being the operative word. It is now run by a President who rules
by decree so try and get with the program.
Rule by the hard left or the hard right are equally evil to the rights
of the people

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 23:22:22 GMT, *Ördög* posted:-

> Controlling the flow of information, restricting the free movement of
> people, political meddling in the arts and sciences for instance were
> quite inexcusable overreaches of the central power pursued by those
> governments.

You have accurately, at last, described your beloved Communist regimes.

Thank you for your honesty. much appreciated.

Petz

> Ördög
>> Dechucka:
>>> Proud of you: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungarys
>>> authoritarian
>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-
gushing-
>>letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>
>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he
>>> rules by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic
>>> institution and checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is
>>> happening in Hungary is beyond me.
>>
>>This is a very telling fact about Trump and Trumpists!
>>Trump has a totally ummasked admiration for crackpot real and wannabe
>>dictators (Putin and Kim Jong Un comes immediately to mind). I am
>>convinced he is very envious of what these strongmen are capable of
>>doing w/o any regard for pesky pro democracy advocates.
>>BTW 'Trucker" Carlson's visit to Hungary praising what Orban was able to
>>do smashing the opposition was just as disgusting, and very telling of
>>where MAGA-GOP Republicans stand politically today.
>>
>>The consorted efforts by far right parties and governments conspiring
>>with each other and spreading far right authoritarian political agendas
>>globally is and increasingly will be a very serious problem for anyone
>>valuing democracy (obviously not just for leftists).
>>
> A armchair supposed communist craps again Ordog you know there are
> famous and good Communists like a good friend of mine.

Stop telling lies Petz dear again. I could imagine you having good neo-
Nazi friends any day, but "good" communist ones? That is in the domain of
phantasms.

BTW could you explain what do you mean by "good" communists as opposed to
"bad" ones.

May I suggest that you aren't capable of knowing who is a communist as
you obviously have no clue what communism is.

And also, please explain what do you have against my lovely armchair, why
do you hate it so passionately? Is there some secret rules I am unaware
of written by Marx or Lenin that forbids the use of armchairs by the
proletariat?

Obviously you haven't seen photos of Lenin's armchair!

🤑️

~~~
~~~
The blasting of Petz's idiotic plagiorised hate propaganda sig is as
follows:

> The problem with socialism is that you
> eventually run out of other people's money

Typical hard-right lie-bertarian propaganda slogan.
No one is spending "other people's money", so I can only conclude the
person saying this doesn't understand socialism. "Means of production,
distribution, and exchange" is the key phrase here. That doesn't mean
everyone's wealth is redistributed, Robin Hood style - it means that the
factories and corporations that provide goods and services to society are
publicly owned and regulated. This isn't too dissimilar from a public
stock exchange.
So I suppose if one's understanding of socialism is to spend other
people's money, then I suppose they're just doing it wrong.

> but Ordogs totalitarian governments

I might be the newsgroup devil, but I am certainly not so mighty as to
own any government, totalitarian or not. LOL!

~~

MOREOVER

> On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord.

oh, you mean your non-existent, invisible sky fairy???

> Eighteen eighty three Karl Marx made his most important contribution to
mankind..

Nope.
Wrong date.

"In late February 1848, the Manifesto was anonymously published by the
Workers' Educational Association (Kommunistischer Arbeiterbildungsverein)
at Bishopsgate in the City of London. Written in German, the 23-page
pamphlet was titled Manifest der kommunistischen Partei and had a dark-
green cover. It was reprinted three times and serialised in the Deutsche
Londoner Zeitung, a newspaper for German émigrés. On 4 March, one day
after the serialisation in the Zeitung began, Marx was expelled by
Belgian police. Two weeks later, around 20 March, a thousand copies of
the Manifesto reached Paris, and from there to Germany in early April. In
April–May the text was corrected for printing and punctuation mistakes;
Marx and Engels would use this 30-page version as the basis for future
editions of the Manifesto."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto>

Of course the Manifesto is just a tiny except of Marx's equally important
econopolitical analytical works on capitalism stretching over decades.

> He died
Yes, people tend to die, it's kind of an unavoidable fact of life.
However great people leave behind their legacy works which keep on
surviving depending on the values they represent for society.

What will be your legacy Petz dear? Alt-right hate and paranoia?
Discarded empty goon bags?
~~
AND LASTLY

> There is no difference between communism and socialism, ...

Shows how little you know about economics, politics and political
ideologies. So what the fuck are you actually doing in a political
newsgroup?

> ... except in th means of achieving the same ultimate end:
> communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote.
>
B U L L S H I T !
To a rational person I'd try to explain why what you posted was utter
rubbish, but in your case what'd be the point wasting my time and energy.

OK, OK, for sane readers (only) I still provide a couple of links:

<https://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism>

<https://byjus.com/free-ias-prep/difference-between-communism-capitalism-
and-socialism/>

>
> It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.
>

More B U L L S H I T accusations of the alt-right kind!

However what certain is:
The society you actually idolise and so badly wish for Petz dear is a
dystopian fascist theocratic nightmare, which offers nobody beyond a tiny
minority at the top of the food-chain any freedom, personal integrity,
hope and happiness.

< https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/
The_Handmaid%E2%80%99s_Tale_%E2%80%93_Der_Report_der_Magd>
~~

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Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ carzies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

On 1/09/2021 9:22 am, *Ördög* wrote:
> It was written by Fran:
>
>> Dechucka
>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-
> letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>
>>>
>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>
>>
>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>> they are being sold a pup.
>
> Fran, why do you think I am so bloody disgusted with and allergic to
> political propaganda, and why do I recognise it immediately.

Yep. I have Hungarian and Czech friends and I've been to both countries
and since the penny dropped a couple of decades ago about the
information being 'controlled, I've never had any need to wonder why you
or anyone would be anti-propaganda

Anyone who
> has grown up in a dictatorial regime, like I did had to learn the hard
> way how to read between the lines of the supposed "news"!
>
> Although, hard right creeps in this ng would never admit this but I am
> not going soft on the devastating failures of countries under the
> leadership of self proclaimed 'communist parties'!
>
> Controlling the flow of information, restricting the free movement of
> people, political meddling in the arts and sciences for instance were
> quite inexcusable overreaches of the central power pursued by those
> governments.

Capitalist countries do the same thing but use different methods eg we
might say we are 'free' to travel where and when we want (and we can to
a certain extent) but if we look at the ads we're fed it's pretty
obvious why we go to certain destination (Bali, Woolworths, Bunnings etc)
>
> Sadly what I see is a strong advocacy by hard right political parties for
> implementing the very same all over capitalist countries globally.

Too late. Amazon, Google, Youtube, Facebook already have us in their
clutches.
>
> 😵️
>

On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>
>>>
>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>
>>
>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>> they are being sold a pup.
>>
> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
> Corruption wass endemic.

It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:01 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
wrote:

>On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>>> they are being sold a pup.
>>>
>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>> Corruption wass endemic.
>
>It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>
One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)
<https://www.nzedge.com/legends/rewi-alley/>
The most travelled European in the Chinese interior and its ‘white
veteran’, associate of Mao and Che Guevara. Author of 66 books, always
with the aim of bringing about a greater understanding of his second
homeland and its people. The man who introduced ‘Gung Ho’ into the
Western idiom.
The remarkable story of a country boy from New Zealand who came to
witness a
--
Petzl
We know the Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying. Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

On 1/09/2021 12:18 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:01 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>>>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>>>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>>>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>>>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>>>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>>>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>>>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>>>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>>>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>>>> they are being sold a pup.
>>>>
>>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>>> Corruption wass endemic.
>>
>> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>>
> One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)

I saw in another post that you called him a 'good friend' of yours.

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:01 +1000, Fran posted:-

> > Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
> > Corruption wass endemic.
>
> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.

LOL that smart arse bitch Fran hasn't got a fucking clue, as usual.

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:19:55 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
wrote:

>On 1/09/2021 12:18 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:01 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>>>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>>>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>>>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>>>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>>>>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>>>>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>>>>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>>>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>>>>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>>>>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>>>>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>>>>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>>>>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>>>>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>>>>> they are being sold a pup.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>>>> Corruption wass endemic.
>>>
>>> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>>>
>> One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)
>
>I saw in another post that you called him a 'good friend' of yours.
>
Yes he was
--
Petzl
We know the Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying. Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

On 1/09/2021 12:18 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:01 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>>>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>>>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>>>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>>>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>>>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>>>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>>>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>>>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>>>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>>>> they are being sold a pup.
>>>>
>>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>>> Corruption wass endemic.
>>
>> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>>
> One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)

Why do you believe he was a good communist?

> <https://www.nzedge.com/legends/rewi-alley/>
> The most travelled European in the Chinese interior and its ‘white
> veteran’, associate of Mao and Che Guevara. Author of 66 books, always
> with the aim of bringing about a greater understanding of his second
> homeland and its people. The man who introduced ‘Gung Ho’ into the
> Western idiom.
> The remarkable story of a country boy from New Zealand who came to
> witness a
>

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 13:16:33 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 1/09/2021 12:18 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:01 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>>>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>>>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>>>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>>>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>>>>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>>>>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>>>>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>>>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>>>>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>>>>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>>>>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>>>>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>>>>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>>>>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>>>>> they are being sold a pup.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>>>> Corruption wass endemic.
>>>
>>> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>>>
>> One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)
>
>Why do you believe he was a good communist?
>
Read the article, he created employment, built industry and had thee
Chinese clothed an fed by being "Gung ho" work together, while he was
a Chinese Communist became a advisor to Mao.
>
>> <https://www.nzedge.com/legends/rewi-alley/>
>> The most travelled European in the Chinese interior and its ‘white
>> veteran’, associate of Mao and Che Guevara. Author of 66 books, always
>> with the aim of bringing about a greater understanding of his second
>> homeland and its people. The man who introduced ‘Gung Ho’ into the
>> Western idiom.
>> The remarkable story of a country boy from New Zealand who came to
>> witness a
>>
--
Petzl
We know the Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying. Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

Petz

> Dechucka
>> Petz
>>> Fran
>>>> Petz
>>>>> Fran
>>>>>> Dechucka wrote:
>>>>>>> Proud of you: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary's
>>>>>>> authoritarian leader Viktor Orbán
>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-
gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-
AANX3Jz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he
>>>>>>> rules by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic
>>>>>>> institution and checks and balances. How anybody could praise what
>>>>>>> is happening in Hungary is beyond me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>>>>>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union
>>>>>> and then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how
>>>>>> similar the Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up
>>>>>> from the floor,
>>>>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I
>>>>>> took me quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and
>>>>>> his acolytes are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that
>>>>>> there was a real difference between the two peoples in that the
>>>>>> Soviet people knew they were being sold a pup and had to comply
>>>>>> because of the nasty repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so
>>>>>> often don't but go about merrily braying about how great the US is
>>>>>> without ever recognising tha they are being sold a pup.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>>>>> Corruption wass endemic.
>>>>
>>>> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>>>>
>>> One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)
>>
>> Why do you believe he was a good communist?
>>
> Read the article, he created employment, built industry and had thee
> Chinese clothed an fed by being "Gung ho" work together, while he was a
> Chinese Communist became a advisor to Mao.
>>
>>> <https://www.nzedge.com/legends/rewi-alley/>
>>> The most travelled European in the Chinese interior and its ‘white
>>> veteran’, associate of Mao and Che Guevara. Author of 66 books,
always
>>> with the aim of bringing about a greater understanding of his second
>>> homeland and its people. The man who introduced ‘Gung Ho’ into the
>>> Western idiom.
>>> The remarkable story of a country boy from New Zealand who came to
>>> witness a

But what makes you think he was actually a *communist* of the good kind?
Who would be a communist of the bad one?
Mao's personal cult distortion of Marx's ideology, specially as it
culminated in the "cultural revolution" was anything but good.
And good people don't become the henchman of such dictators.

Yes, even Mao did some useful things for its country, specially bringing
it out of broken feudalism, and colonial rot, but hey, the rest was on
very shaky ideological grounds. BTW China does not even pretend to be
communist, rather it asserts to be "socialist with a special Chinese
characteristic", eh Petz dear?

You still have not proven you have the concept of communism in grip in
your head, nor have you proven you actually had anything to do with this
chap personally.
I'd just put this assertion into the same category as your little tank
and machine guns, that super duper espresso machine, the 12 men fire-
hose, the secret bat phone to ASIO, the white peacock, etc...etc...etc.

~~~
~~~
The trashing of Petz's idiotic hate propaganda sig is as follows:

> We ...

We??? i.e. your multiple personality disorder?
We??? i. e. the retarded alt-right Usenet propaganda brigade?

> ...know the Dumb3 are lying.

That Dumb3 --- Lions Farts Foster,
--- Mounting Magpies Johnny,
the LJH sock-puppeteer
--- Rod Speed
That follower --- Petz the designated village idiot of aus.politics

Yes, their bread and butter are constant lying!

" they know they are lying,"
" they know we know they are lying,"
" we know they know we know they are lying,"
" but they are still lying."

How true.
Alt-right nutjobs and conspiracy kooks always reject reality, rational
thinking and truth.
Anything that is pushed into the public domain from their repugnant cyber
hiding places is utter rubbish and pure repugnant hate filled far-right
propaganda.

You, Petz dear can whinge till the cows come home but that fascist
dystopian theocracy you are wishing for so badly ain't coming ... yet!

So tough cookie! Get used to it or just implode in self righteous Xtian
fundy fury and hate...but do bugger off at any rate.
This endless accusatory whinge of yours is getting so bloody
boooooooooooooooooooooring!
Let's face it Petz ... no regular reader here gives a shit anymore about
your regurgitated sigs.
~~

--
Ördög - 👹️ - your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark.......
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps, all of those Trump's deplorables:

- idiots like Petz and his bunch of home grown OZ carzies

- All LNP propaganda drones like assorted LJH family of
sock- and meat-puppets for instance that gutter trash quality
scumbag nymshifter creep Alvey, Mag00, Jonz, Rex Libris,
Henry Briggs, Louie braindeath, James somethin',
Birdies mounting Johnny,
plus all those stolen nyms, etc, etc, etc ...

- All septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A,
specially including Petz's current septic boyfriends.

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>

On 1/09/2021 12:49 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:19:55 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/09/2021 12:18 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:01 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>>>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>>>>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>>>>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>>>>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>>>>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>>>>>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>>>>>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>>>>>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>>>>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>>>>>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>>>>>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>>>>>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>>>>>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>>>>>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>>>>>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>>>>>> they are being sold a pup.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>>>>> Corruption wass endemic.
>>>>
>>>> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>>>>
>>> One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)
>>
>> I saw in another post that you called him a 'good friend' of yours.
>>
> Yes he was

So how many years did you live in China?

It was written by Fran:

> Petz
>> Fran
>>> Petz
>>>> Fran
>>>>> Petz
>>>>>> Fran
>>>>>>> Dechucka
>>>>>>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s
>>>>>>>> authoritarian leader Viktor Orbán
>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-
gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-
AANX3Jz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he
>>>>>>>> rules by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic
>>>>>>>> institution and checks and balances. How anybody could praise
>>>>>>>> what is happening in Hungary is beyond me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel
>>>>>>> the world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet
>>>>>>> Union and then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on
>>>>>>> how similar the Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my
>>>>>>> jaw up from the floor,
>>>>>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I
>>>>>>> took me quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and
>>>>>>> his acolytes are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that
>>>>>>> there was a real difference between the two peoples in that the
>>>>>>> Soviet people knew they were being sold a pup and had to comply
>>>>>>> because of the nasty repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks
>>>>>>> so often don't but go about merrily braying about how great the US
>>>>>>> is without ever recognising tha they are being sold a pup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>>>>>> Corruption wass endemic.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>>>>>
>>>> One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)
>>>
>>> I saw in another post that you called him a 'good friend' of yours.
>>>
>> Yes he was
>
> So how many years did you live in China?

According to his Goon-Bag fumes induced deliriums most likely for decades.
In reality, possibly..just possibly a few weeks as a
tourist...maybe...maybe NOT!

🤔️

--
Ördög - 👹️ - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 14:42:30 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
wrote:

>On 1/09/2021 12:49 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:19:55 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/09/2021 12:18 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:01 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/09/2021 9:28 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 08:55:43 +1000, Fran <f2r2a3@loonynutters.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/09/2021 8:36 am, Dechucka wrote:
>>>>>>>> ‘Proud of you’: Trump writes gushing letter to Hungary’s authoritarian
>>>>>>>> leader Viktor Orbán
>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/proud-of-you-trump-writes-gushing-letter-to-hungarys-authoritarian-leader-viktor-orb%c3%a1n/ar-AANX3Jz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Love how Orbán claimed that Hungary is freer than the USA when he rules
>>>>>>>> by decree and has scrapped many of Hungary's democratic institution and
>>>>>>>> checks and balances. How anybody could praise what is happening in
>>>>>>>> Hungary is beyond me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Decades ago, in a conversation with a couple who used to travel the
>>>>>>> world slowly (by pushbike) we'd been talking about the Soviet Union and
>>>>>>> then moved on to the US. The male partner commented on how similar the
>>>>>>> Soviet Union and the US were. After I picked my jaw up from the floor,
>>>>>>> I asked him why. His response was "Control of information." I took me
>>>>>>> quite a few years to join the dots, but I think Trump and his acolytes
>>>>>>> are a perfect example of that. However, I'd say that there was a real
>>>>>>> difference between the two peoples in that the Soviet people knew they
>>>>>>> were being sold a pup and had to comply because of the nasty
>>>>>>> repercussions if they didn't, but the yanks so often don't but go about
>>>>>>> merrily braying about how great the US is without ever recognising tha
>>>>>>> they are being sold a pup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, on top of that Hungary was run by corrupt dumb Ordog types
>>>>>> Corruption wass endemic.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a bit early in the day for you to be hallucinating.
>>>>>
>>>> One Communist bloke who was decent and clever (deceased)
>>>
>>> I saw in another post that you called him a 'good friend' of yours.
>>>
>> Yes he was
>
>So how many years did you live in China?
>
Been there but never lived there
Met him in the 1960's in NZ and often kept in contact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rewi_Alley
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they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying. Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn