On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 16:53:32 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 19/04/2022 8:37 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> Max asks the Rodbot the bleeding obvious:
>> ===============================
>>>
>>>>>> need visas to show up here as crew on a cruise ship, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> They need visas to get on plane to Australia.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong with ship crew, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Why don't the ship crew need visas?
>>>
>> ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
>> Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa.
>> Arriving by air to take up a crew position on a ship docked here is
>> fraught with issues.
>> Rod is a 100%, fucking LIAR
>>
>
> At some point the crew have to board the ship.
>
> It could be any port they board at, since the ship is always at seas
> going from port to port.
>
> Therefore, crew will inevetably have to go to one of the cities where
> the ship has docked, in order to board.
>
> It's quite possible they will have to fly to this city if they don't
> live there.

And given that they are mostly Philipinos, they are unlikely to
live there given that most cruises dont bother to stop in the
philipines.

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>> >> >> Much cheaper to fly in crew when you actually need them or
>>>>>> recruit
>>>>>> >> >> some locals, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>>> >> > No that would be way more expensive
>>>>
>>>>>>>> More mindless bullshit given that the airline traffic is now
>>>>>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>>>> > Shame about needing visas and passports to fly into Australia.
>>>>
>>>>>> They need the passports to work on a cruise ship and don't
>>>>>> need visas to show up here as crew on a cruise ship, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> They need visas to get on plane to Australia.
>>>> Wrong with ship crew, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Why don't the ship crew need visas?
>> Essentially because that would be too much farting around.
>> The pax don't for every port they stop at during the cruise either.
>> And don't all get jailed if the ship does an unexpected stop in
>> an unscheduled port because the weather isnt suitable at one
>> of the scheduled ports, even for non EU pax like Australians
>> or the Philipino crew.

> They may not be able to disembark the ship though if they don't have a
> visa for that country.

It doesn't work that way. The world has been dealing with ship's
crew for centurys now and the detail with visas haven't changed.

Same with aircraft crew and those can't just be forced to stay on the
plane.

> Whether border force will storm the ship is another matter.

They do show up on any ship that docks, but don't insist that
all crew must have a visa. Same in spades with aircraft crew.

>> Just been reading the memoirs of someone who with his dad
>> road a couple of Ukrainian BMW motorbike and sidecar copys
>> from Austria to Cape Town, down the length of Africa. In one
>> place in southern africa, when moving between two countrys,
>> you get an automatic 1 day visa to pass thru their country.

Max the Wog Fuckwit & congenital LAIR wrote:

==================================
>>
> > ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
> > Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa.
> >
> > Arriving by air to take up a crew position on a ship docked here is fraught with issues.
> > Rod is a 100%, fucking LIAR
>
> >
> At some point the crew have to board the ship.
>
> It could be any port they board at, since the ship is always at seas
> going from port to port.
>
> Therefore, crew will inevetably have to go to one of the cities where
> the ship has docked, in order to board.
>
> It's quite possible they will have to fly to this city if they don't
> live there.

** There is no question in your pile of verbal drivel.
Don't you ever learn ???

FOAD wog POS ,

On 20/04/2022 8:00 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max the Wog Fuckwit & congenital LAIR wrote:
>
> ==================================
>>>
>>> ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
>>> Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa.
>>>
>>> Arriving by air to take up a crew position on a ship docked here is fraught with issues.
>>> Rod is a 100%, fucking LIAR
>>
>>>
>> At some point the crew have to board the ship.
>>
>> It could be any port they board at, since the ship is always at seas
>> going from port to port.
>>
>> Therefore, crew will inevetably have to go to one of the cities where
>> the ship has docked, in order to board.
>>
>> It's quite possible they will have to fly to this city if they don't
>> live there.
>
> ** There is no question in your pile of verbal drivel.
> Don't you ever learn ???
>

There was not meant to be a question. I was rebutting your claim that
people are unlikely to arrive by air to take up a crew position.

Max the Wog Fuckwit & congenital LAIR wrote:

==================================
> >>
> >>> ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
> >>> Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa.
> >>>
> >>> Arriving by air to take up a crew position on a ship docked here is fraught with issues.
> >>> Rod is a 100%, fucking LIAR
> >>
> >>>
> >> At some point the crew have to board the ship.
> >> It could be any port they board at, since the ship is always at seas
> >> going from port to port.
> >> Therefore, crew will inevetably have to go to one of the cities where
> >> the ship has docked, in order to board.
> >> It's quite possible they will have to fly to this city if they don't
> >> live there.
> >
> > ** There is no question in your pile of verbal drivel.
> > Don't you ever learn ???
> >
> There was not meant to be a question.
> I was rebutting your claim that
> people are unlikely to arrive by air to take up a crew position.
>

** But made shit up missed out all the facts applying in this unusual case and the circumstances at this time.

....... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Max wrote

>> >>> ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
>> >>> Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa.
>> >>>
>> >>> Arriving by air to take up a crew position on a ship docked here is
>> fraught with issues.
>> >>> Rod is a 100%, fucking LIAR
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >> At some point the crew have to board the ship.
>> >> It could be any port they board at, since the ship is always at seas
>> >> going from port to port.
>> >> Therefore, crew will inevetably have to go to one of the cities where
>> >> the ship has docked, in order to board.
>> >> It's quite possible they will have to fly to this city if they don't
>> >> live there.
>> >
>> > ** There is no question in your pile of verbal drivel.
>> > Don't you ever learn ???
>> >
>> There was not meant to be a question.
>> I was rebutting your claim that
>> people are unlikely to arrive by air to take up a crew position.

> But made shit up

Just like you did with visas for crew members.

> missed out all the facts applying in this unusualcase

Nothing unusual about a new cruise liner coming back into service.

> and the circumstances at this time.

Bullshit.

Raving LUNATIC CRIMINAL Rodbot Ex Cop Speedbot

=====================================
> Just like you did with visas for crew members.

** Class 988 Maritime Crew Visas are essential for each crew member and any family travelling with them.
Air travel to get here is another issue.

> > missed out all the facts applying in this unusualcase
>
> Nothing unusual about a new cruise liner coming back into service.

** Not the case here at all, you lying cunt.
The cruise liner was launched in 1996 and spent the last 2 years docked in Cyprus.
FOAD you hee hawing ass.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Just like you did with visas for crew members.

> Class 988 Maritime Crew Visas are essential for eachcrew member and any
> family travelling with them.

Nothing like your original pig ignorant shit and you
are still flagrantly mis representing what crew who
show up in a particular port on a ship need to have,
particularly when it is an unexpected port stop
which isnt uncommon at all with cruise ships.

> Air travel to get here is another issue.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

>>> missed out all the facts applying in this unusual case

>> Nothing unusual about a new cruise liner coming back into service.

> Not the case here at all

Wrong, as always. It has been sitting unused in Cyrus for more than a year
now.

> The cruise liner was launched in 1996 and spent the last 2 years docked
> in Cyprus.

So this cruise is COMING BACK INTO SERVICE, fuckwit.

MORON, LIAR and CONGENITAL CRIMINAL Rod Speedbot wrote:
===============================================
>
> >> Just like you did with visas for crew members.
>>
> > Class 988 Maritime Crew Visas are essential for each crew member and any
> > family travelling with them.
>
> Nothing like your original pig ignorant shit .....

Quote:

" ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa. "
==============================================

> > Air travel to get here is another issue.

** Correct.
>
> >> Nothing unusual about a new cruise liner coming back into service.
> > Not the case here at all
>
> > The cruise liner was launched in 1996 and spent the last 2 years docked
> > in Cyprus.

> So this cruise is COMING BACK INTO SERVICE, fuckwit.

** NO it is ** not new** but 16 years OLD and was locked up due to the pandemic.

So my post was 100% FUCKING FACT ALL the FUCKING WAY

Get cancer die you criminal LIAR & POS arsehole.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >> Just like you did with visas for crew members.
>>>
>> > Class 988 Maritime Crew Visas are essential for each crew member and
>> any
>> > family travelling with them.
>>
>> Nothing like your original pig ignorant shit .....
>
> Quote:
>
> " ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.

Wrong when the ship docks in a port not on its itinerary.

> Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa. "

Also wrong, if they show up on the ship, they will be crew, stupid.

And the pax who only come off the ship for a look around the port
and return to the ship don't need a visa either, you pig ignorant clown.

>> > Air travel to get here is another issue.

> Correct.

Nope, fucked up, as always.

>>
>> >> Nothing unusual about a new cruise liner coming back into service.

>>> Not the case here at all

>> > The cruise liner was launched in 1996 and spent the last 2 years
>> docked
>> > in Cyprus.
>
>> So this cruise is COMING BACK INTO SERVICE, fuckwit.

> NO it is ** not new**

No one said it was new, fuckwit. The words COMING
BACK INTO SERVICE were there for a reason, fuckwit.

> but 16 years OLD and was locked up due to the pandemic.

What I said originally and you flagrantly dishonestly
deleted from the quoting, as you always do, fuckwit.

> So my post was 100% FUCKING FACT ALL the FUCKING WAY

More of your bare faced lies, as always.

PSYCHO CRIMINAL LIAR Rodbot Speedbot wrote:
=========================================
>
> >> >> Just like you did with visas for crew members.
> >>>
> >> > Class 988 Maritime Crew Visas are essential for each crew member and
> >> any family travelling with them.
> >>
> >> Nothing like your original pig ignorant shit .....
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > " ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
>
> Wrong when the ship docks in a port not on its itinerary.

** ROTFL - no utter absurdity is beyond this fucked up imbecile.

> > Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa. "
>
> Also wrong, if they show up on the ship, they will be crew, stupid.

** ROTFL - no utter absurdity is beyond this fucked up imbecile.

> >> >> Nothing unusual about a new cruise liner coming back into service.
>
> >>> Not the case here at all
>
> >> > The cruise liner was launched in 1996 and spent the last 2 years
> >> docked in Cyprus.
> >
> >> So this cruise is COMING BACK INTO SERVICE, fuckwit.
> > NO it is ** not new**
>
> No one said it was new,

** ROTFLMAO, YOU said so, right above - FUCKWIT !!

> > but 26 years OLD and was locked up due to the pandemic.

> What I said originally ...

** ROTFL - no utter absurdity is beyond this fucked up imbecile.

...... Phil

On 21/04/2022 5:12 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> PSYCHO CRIMINAL LIAR Rodbot Speedbot wrote:
> =========================================
>>
>>>>>> Just like you did with visas for crew members.
>>>>>
>>>>> Class 988 Maritime Crew Visas are essential for each crew member and
>>>> any family travelling with them.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing like your original pig ignorant shit .....
>>>
>>> Quote:
>>>
>>> " ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
>>
>> Wrong when the ship docks in a port not on its itinerary.
>
> ** ROTFL - no utter absurdity is beyond this fucked up imbecile.
>

It is quite possible that a cruise ship while change its itinerary.

It's all part of the enjoyment of being on a cruise.

The captain will inform passengers of the change in plans, and it's all
part of the fun of it - that you are on a ship which is on its own
journey which the captain has control over.

>
>>> Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa. "
>>
>> Also wrong, if they show up on the ship, they will be crew, stupid.
>
> ** ROTFL - no utter absurdity is beyond this fucked up imbecile.
>
>
>>>>>> Nothing unusual about a new cruise liner coming back into service.
>>
>>>>> Not the case here at all
>>
>>>>> The cruise liner was launched in 1996 and spent the last 2 years
>>>> docked in Cyprus.
>>>
>>>> So this cruise is COMING BACK INTO SERVICE, fuckwit.
>>> NO it is ** not new**
>>
>> No one said it was new,
>
> ** ROTFLMAO, YOU said so, right above - FUCKWIT !!
>
>>> but 26 years OLD and was locked up due to the pandemic.
>
>> What I said originally ...
>
> ** ROTFL - no utter absurdity is beyond this fucked up imbecile.
>
>
>
> ..... Phil
>
>

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >> >> Just like you did with visas for crew members.
>> >>>
>> >> > Class 988 Maritime Crew Visas are essential for each crew member
>> and
>> >> any family travelling with them.
>> >>
>> >> Nothing like your original pig ignorant shit .....
>> >
>> > Quote:
>> >
>> > " ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
>>
>> Wrong when the ship docks in a port not on its itinerary.

> ROTFL

Just like a little kid. Filthyshit flushed where it belongs.

>> > Plus good proof of being a crew member to get that visa. "
>>
>> Also wrong, if they show up on the ship, they will be crew, stupid.

> ROTFL

Just like a little kid. Filthyshit flushed where it belongs. >

>> >> >> Nothing unusual about a new cruise liner coming back into service.
>>
>> >>> Not the case here at all
>>
>> >> > The cruise liner was launched in 1996 and spent the last 2 years
>> >> docked in Cyprus.
>> >
>> >> So this cruise is COMING BACK INTO SERVICE, fuckwit.
>> > NO it is ** not new**
>>
>> No one said it was new,
>
> ROTFLMAO

Just like a little kid. Filthyshit flushed where it belongs.

>> > but 26 years OLD and was locked up due to the pandemic.
>
>> What I said originally ...
>
> ROTFL

Just like a little kid. Filthyshit flushed where it belongs. >

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>> Just like you did with visas for crew members.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Class 988 Maritime Crew Visas are essential for each crew member and
>>>>> any family travelling with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing like your original pig ignorant shit .....
>>>>
>>>> Quote:
>>>>
>>>> " ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
>>>
>>> Wrong when the ship docks in a port not on its itinerary.
>> ** ROTFL - no utter absurdity is beyond this fucked up imbecile.
>>

> It is quite possible that a cruise ship while change its itinerary.

Often due to the weather at one of the itinerary ports.

> It's all part of the enjoyment of being on a cruise.

Yep.

> The captain will inform passengers of the change in plans, and it's all
> part of the fun of it - that you are on a ship which is on its own
> journey which the captain has control over.

And avoiding a port where the weather is fucked and wouldnt
be any fun wandering around that particular stop.

The pax and crew who organise the shore trips on that unscheduled
port don't need visas for any port that might be used.

As always, Filthy has never had a fucking clue and has never
actually been on one because he has always been a dole bludger.

Rod Speed wrote:
===============

**

Way 2 crazy 4 me.

Max has NO brain whatsoever wrote:
==========================
>> >>>
> >>> " ** All ships crew need visas to come here by sea.
> >>
> >> Wrong when the ship docks in a port not on its itinerary.
> >
> > ** ROTFL - no utter absurdity is beyond this fucked up imbecile.
> >
>
> It is quite possible that a cruise ship while change its itinerary.

** ROTFL - thing is Maxxie boy ,

it's not one TINY FUCKING BIT relevant.

.... Phil

Phil Allison wrote:
================
> great news, cruise liners are welcome to call here again in May.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkD0XpIWaus
>
> Older Australians will hand over millions in savings to foreign tax dodging operations. Foreign tourists will visit our major cities and spend almost nothing. What we get ?
> The latest Covid variant delivered on a plate.
>
> Peeeeukkkkeeee......
>

** See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysC4TLIaoS8

It's started already, one floating petri-dish at a time.

....... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote

>> great news, cruise liners are welcome to call here again in May.

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkD0XpIWaus

>> Older Australians will hand over millions in savings to foreign tax
>> dodging operations. Foreign tourists will visit our major cities and
>> spend almost nothing. What we get ?
>> The latest Covid variant delivered on a plate.

>> Peeeeukkkkeeee......

> See:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysC4TLIaoS8

> It's started already, one floating petri-dish at a time.

Best slash your wrists, boy.

That one isn't delivering the latest covid variant.

FAR more are flying in with that, stupid.

FUCKWIT Rod Speedbot IDIOT wrote:

======================
>
> >> great news, cruise liners are welcome to call here again in May.
>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkD0XpIWaus
>
> >> Older Australians will hand over millions in savings to foreign tax
> >> dodging operations. Foreign tourists will visit our major cities and
> >> spend almost nothing. What we get ?
> >> The latest Covid variant delivered on a plate.
>
> >> Peeeeukkkkeeee......
> > See:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysC4TLIaoS8
>
> > It's started already, one floating petri-dish at a time.
>
> That one isn't delivering the latest covid variant.
>

** Course - it's a boutique Australian coastal " eco tourist" ship, not an international cruise liner.

Nevertheless , the petri-dish effect applies.

> FAR more are flying in with that,

** Separate issue.

...... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> >> great news, cruise liners are welcome to call here again in May.
>>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkD0XpIWaus
>>
>> >> Older Australians will hand over millions in savings to foreign tax
>> >> dodging operations. Foreign tourists will visit our major cities and
>> >> spend almost nothing. What we get ?
>> >> The latest Covid variant delivered on a plate.
>>
>> >> Peeeeukkkkeeee......

>> > See:
>>
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysC4TLIaoS8
>>
>> > It's started already, one floating petri-dish at a time.
>>
>> That one isn't delivering the latest covid variant.

> Course - it's a boutique Australian coastal " eco tourist" ship, not
> an international cruise liner.

> Nevertheless , the petri-dish effect applies.

No more than with aircraft, fuckwit.

>> FAR more are flying in with that,

> Separate issue.

Nope.

Rod Ex-Cop Speedbot wrote:
======================
>
> > Nevertheless, the petri-dish effect applies.
>
> No more than with aircraft,

** ROTFLMAO

....... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Nevertheless, the petri-dish effect applies.

>> No more than with aircraft,

> ROTFLMAO

In fact its much worse with international airline flights
because you sit much closer to other people and it isnt
possible to test if anyone got infected during the flight.