I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.

She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.

Is she correct?

On 11-May-22 6:06 pm, Max wrote:
> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>
> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>
> Is she correct?

She might be. It's hard to know.

Her concerns appear to relate to fathers getting a raw deal, and mothers
inventing allegations of domestic violence and abuse as a legal tactic.

The difficulty is that we cannot know what proportion of allegations are
false. Comparing the rate of allegations with that in the wider
community doesn't help, because there may be under-reporting amongst
parents who are not separated, and such abuses may be the cause of
break-ups, so we might expect more violence and abuse in separated
couples anyway.

On the other hand, Hanson's beliefs are presumably not backed up by more
data than the rest of us have access to.

So it's a tough call, and will probably continue to be.

Sylvia.

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.

> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.

Just because some fool claims something...

> Is she correct?

Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.

Sylvia Else wrote on 11/5/22 6:49 pm:
> On 11-May-22 6:06 pm, Max wrote:
>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>
>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>
>> Is she correct?
>
> She might be. It's hard to know.
>
> Her concerns appear to relate to fathers getting a raw deal, and mothers
> inventing allegations of domestic violence and abuse as a legal tactic.
>
> The difficulty is that we cannot know what proportion of allegations are
> false. Comparing the rate of allegations with that in the wider
> community doesn't help, because there may be under-reporting amongst
> parents who are not separated, and such abuses may be the cause of
> break-ups, so we might expect more violence and abuse in separated
> couples anyway.
>
> On the other hand, Hanson's beliefs are presumably not backed up by more
> data than the rest of us have access to.
>
> So it's a tough call, and will probably continue to be.
>
> Sylvia.

Pauline is a divorced mother, isn't she?? Maybe she's acting from past
experience!
--
Daniel

On 11-May-22 10:26 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote on 11/5/22 6:49 pm:
>> On 11-May-22 6:06 pm, Max wrote:
>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>
>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>>
>>> Is she correct?
>>
>> She might be. It's hard to know.
>>
>> Her concerns appear to relate to fathers getting a raw deal, and
>> mothers inventing allegations of domestic violence and abuse as a
>> legal tactic.
>>
>> The difficulty is that we cannot know what proportion of allegations
>> are false. Comparing the rate of allegations with that in the wider
>> community doesn't help, because there may be under-reporting amongst
>> parents who are not separated, and such abuses may be the cause of
>> break-ups, so we might expect more violence and abuse in separated
>> couples anyway.
>>
>> On the other hand, Hanson's beliefs are presumably not backed up by
>> more data than the rest of us have access to.
>>
>> So it's a tough call, and will probably continue to be.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Pauline is a divorced mother, isn't she?? Maybe she's acting from past
> experience!

I believe she's expressing concerns based on the experience of one of
her adult children. It's not a statistically significant sample, of course.

Sylvia.

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Sylvia Else wrote
>> Max wrote

>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>
>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>>
>>> Is she correct?
>> She might be. It's hard to know.
>> Her concerns appear to relate to fathers getting a raw deal, and
>> mothers inventing allegations of domestic violence and abuse as a legal
>> tactic.
>> The difficulty is that we cannot know what proportion of allegations
>> are false. Comparing the rate of allegations with that in the wider
>> community doesn't help, because there may be under-reporting amongst
>> parents who are not separated, and such abuses may be the cause of
>> break-ups, so we might expect more violence and abuse in separated
>> couples anyway.

>> On the other hand, Hanson's beliefs are presumably not backed up by
>> more data than the rest of us have access to.

>> So it's a tough call, and will probably continue to be.

> Pauline is a divorced mother, isn't she??

And well known slut.

> Maybe she's acting from past experience!

Nope.

On 11/05/2022 7:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>
>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>
> Just because some fool claims something...
>
>> Is she correct?
>
> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.

**Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be nice.

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.

>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.

>> Just because some fool claims something...

>>> Is she correct?

>> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.

> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be nice.

True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.

On Thu, 12 May 2022 08:34:19 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>
>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>
>>> Just because some fool claims something...
>
>>>> Is she correct?
>
>>> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>
>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be nice.
>
>True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.

Aye, and a fourth for that screaming harpy dyke in the Senate!

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>
>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>
>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>
>>>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>
>>>>> Is she correct?
>>
>>>> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>>
>>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be
>>> nice.
>>
>> True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.
>
> Aye, and a fourth for that screaming harpy dyke in the Senate!

That's Lambie.

Unfortunately we have been too hopeless to try it with anyone except Arfur
Caldwell.

On 12/05/2022 8:34 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>
>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>
>>>  Just because some fool claims something...
>
>>>> Is she correct?
>
>>>  Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>
>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be  nice.
>
> True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.

**Lambie stands out as one of the small number of honest politicians in
the Senate. Do I always agree with her? Nope. However, she has been
straight with the electorate in that she acts for armed forces people
and the people of Tasmania. She has never wavered in those actions.

I like that about Lambie. Dumb as a pile of rocks, but honest.

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.

>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.

>>>> Just because some fool claims something...

>>>>> Is she correct?

>>>> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.

>>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be
>>> nice.

>> True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.

> Lambie stands out as one of the small number of honest politicians in
> the Senate.

That's bullshit and she isn't stupid enough to be into climate change crap.

> Do I always agree with her? Nope. However, she has been straightwith
> the electorate in that she acts for armed forces people

Nope, just stamps her foot.

> and the people of Tasmania.

Ditto.

She has never wavered in those actions.

> I like that about Lambie. Dumb as a pile of rocks, but honest.

On 11/05/2022 10:27 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 11-May-22 10:26 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Sylvia Else wrote on 11/5/22 6:49 pm:
>>> On 11-May-22 6:06 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>>
>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>>>
>>>> Is she correct?
>>>
>>> She might be. It's hard to know.
>>>
>>> Her concerns appear to relate to fathers getting a raw deal, and
>>> mothers inventing allegations of domestic violence and abuse as a
>>> legal tactic.
>>>
>>> The difficulty is that we cannot know what proportion of allegations
>>> are false. Comparing the rate of allegations with that in the wider
>>> community doesn't help, because there may be under-reporting amongst
>>> parents who are not separated, and such abuses may be the cause of
>>> break-ups, so we might expect more violence and abuse in separated
>>> couples anyway.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, Hanson's beliefs are presumably not backed up by
>>> more data than the rest of us have access to.
>>>
>>> So it's a tough call, and will probably continue to be.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>> Pauline is a divorced mother, isn't she?? Maybe she's acting from past
>> experience!
>
> I believe she's expressing concerns based on the experience of one of
> her adult children. It's not a statistically significant sample, of course.
>

Is what happened to her adult child due to a problem with the family law
system?

If so, what can be done to fix it?

On 11/05/2022 7:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>
>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>
> Just because some fool claims something...
>
>> Is she correct?
>
> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.

So you are suggesting that Hanson, an elected member of the Australian
parliament, be shot and killed?

On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:49:09 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

>On 11/05/2022 7:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>
>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>
>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>
>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>
>>> Is she correct?
>>
>> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>
>So you are suggesting that Hanson, an elected member of the Australian
>parliament, be shot and killed?

Why waste good bullets? Why not have a Hanged parliament?

On 13/05/2022 10:49 am, Max wrote:
> On 11/05/2022 7:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>
>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>
>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>
>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>
>>> Is she correct?
>>
>> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>
> So you are suggesting that Hanson, an elected member of the Australian
> parliament, be shot and killed?

Why do you sound surprised? Rod Speed is weird but he's not even the
weirdest poster here. He is one eyed about HIS view on politics that he
will never accept that others make different (equally valid) choices as
to what/who they support.

On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:47:49 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 11/05/2022 10:27 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 11-May-22 10:26 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote on 11/5/22 6:49 pm:
>>>> On 11-May-22 6:06 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>>>
>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is she correct?
>>>>
>>>> She might be. It's hard to know.
>>>>
>>>> Her concerns appear to relate to fathers getting a raw deal, and
>>>> mothers inventing allegations of domestic violence and abuse as a
>>>> legal tactic.
>>>>
>>>> The difficulty is that we cannot know what proportion of allegations
>>>> are false. Comparing the rate of allegations with that in the wider
>>>> community doesn't help, because there may be under-reporting amongst
>>>> parents who are not separated, and such abuses may be the cause of
>>>> break-ups, so we might expect more violence and abuse in separated
>>>> couples anyway.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, Hanson's beliefs are presumably not backed up by
>>>> more data than the rest of us have access to.
>>>>
>>>> So it's a tough call, and will probably continue to be.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> Pauline is a divorced mother, isn't she?? Maybe she's acting from past
>>> experience!
>> I believe she's expressing concerns based on the experience of one of
>> her adult children. It's not a statistically significant sample, of
>> course.
>>
>
> Is what happened to her adult child due to a problem with the family law
> system?
>
> If so, what can be done to fix it?

No one has ever come up with any way of fixing that shambles.

Not even not getting married in the first place fixes it, you are still
stuck with that the legal system decides is what happens.

On 13-May-22 10:47 am, Max wrote:
> On 11/05/2022 10:27 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 11-May-22 10:26 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote on 11/5/22 6:49 pm:
>>>> On 11-May-22 6:06 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>>>
>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is she correct?
>>>>
>>>> She might be. It's hard to know.
>>>>
>>>> Her concerns appear to relate to fathers getting a raw deal, and
>>>> mothers inventing allegations of domestic violence and abuse as a
>>>> legal tactic.
>>>>
>>>> The difficulty is that we cannot know what proportion of allegations
>>>> are false. Comparing the rate of allegations with that in the wider
>>>> community doesn't help, because there may be under-reporting amongst
>>>> parents who are not separated, and such abuses may be the cause of
>>>> break-ups, so we might expect more violence and abuse in separated
>>>> couples anyway.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, Hanson's beliefs are presumably not backed up by
>>>> more data than the rest of us have access to.
>>>>
>>>> So it's a tough call, and will probably continue to be.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> Pauline is a divorced mother, isn't she?? Maybe she's acting from
>>> past experience!
>>
>> I believe she's expressing concerns based on the experience of one of
>> her adult children. It's not a statistically significant sample, of
>> course.
>>
>
> Is what happened to her adult child due to a problem with the family law
> system?

We have no way of knowing whether the true facts differed from the
alleged facts before the court. Even Hanson may have been mislead by her
offspring.

So we don't know whether there was anything there that needed fixing.

Sylvia.

On 12/5/2022 9:23 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 12/05/2022 8:34 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>
>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>
>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>
>>>>  Just because some fool claims something...
>>
>>>>> Is she correct?
>>
>>>>  Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>>
>>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be
>>> nice.
>>
>> True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.
>
> **Lambie stands out as one of the small number of honest politicians in
> the Senate. Do I always agree with her? Nope. However, she has been
> straight with the electorate in that she acts for armed forces people
> and the people of Tasmania. She has never wavered in those actions.
>
> I like that about Lambie. Dumb as a pile of rocks, but honest.

I thought that she was seriously deranged - at first. Now I think she's
a good fit in the Senate, a far better fit than someone like Hanson.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 14/05/2022 5:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 12/5/2022 9:23 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 12/05/2022 8:34 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>
>>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>>
>>>>>  Just because some fool claims something...
>>>
>>>>>> Is she correct?
>>>
>>>>>  Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>>>
>>>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be
>>>> nice.
>>>
>>> True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.
>>
>> **Lambie stands out as one of the small number of honest politicians
>> in the Senate. Do I always agree with her? Nope. However, she has been
>> straight with the electorate in that she acts for armed forces people
>> and the people of Tasmania. She has never wavered in those actions.
>>
>> I like that about Lambie. Dumb as a pile of rocks, but honest.
>
> I thought that she was seriously deranged - at first. Now I think she's
> a good fit in the Senate, a far better fit than someone like Hanson.

Yep. When she was first elected, I was horrified but by the time she
had to leave for the dual citizenship fiasco, I thought she had found
her place and was a very good advocate for her state. The same thing
applied to Ricky Muir and to Glenn Lazarus.

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
> Trevor Wilson wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>
>>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>>
>>>>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>>
>>>>>> Is she correct?
>>>
>>>>> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>>>
>>>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be
>>>> nice.
>>>
>>> True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.
>> **Lambie stands out as one of the small number of honest politicians
>> in the Senate. Do I always agree with her? Nope. However, she has been
>> straight with the electorate in that she acts for armed forces people
>> and the people of Tasmania. She has never wavered in those actions.
>> I like that about Lambie. Dumb as a pile of rocks, but honest.

> I thought that she was seriously deranged

That is precisely what she is.

> - at first.

She still is.

> Now I think she's a good fit in the Senate,

More fool you.

> a far better fit than someone like Hanson.

They both need a bullet in the back of the neck.

On 14/05/2022 6:54 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>> Trevor Wilson wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>>>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>>
>>>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs fixing.
>>>>
>>>>>>  Just because some fool claims something...
>>>>
>>>>>>> Is she correct?
>>>>
>>>>>>  Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>>>>
>>>>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be
>>>>> nice.
>>>>
>>>> True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.
>>>  **Lambie stands out as one of the small number of honest politicians
>>> in the Senate. Do I always agree with her? Nope. However, she has
>>> been straight with the electorate in that she acts for armed forces
>>> people and the people of Tasmania. She has never wavered in those
>>> actions.
>>>  I like that about Lambie. Dumb as a pile of rocks, but honest.
>
>> I thought that she was seriously deranged
>
> That is precisely what she is.

**Really? Tell us, in as much detail as you feel necessary, how her
alleged derangement compares to the religious nuttery practiced by
Scummo, or the outright insanity displayed by Barnaby.

Trevor Wilson (TW) wrote:
================
>
> **Really?
>Tell us, in as much detail as you feel necessary, how her
> alleged derangement compares to the religious nuttery practiced by
> Scummo, or the outright insanity displayed by Barnaby.
>

** The PM's nick is Scomo.
Your's might easily be " scummo, audiophool scammer."

Bet TW never does this:

Post a convincing CASE, if you think you actually have one.
Asking absurdly loaded, fake questions is the desperate act of a troll with no case at all.

Yawnnnnnnnnnn......

...... Phil

On Sat, 14 May 2022 19:36:17 +1000, Trevor Wilson posted:-

> **Really? Tell us, in as much detail as you feel necessary, how her
> alleged derangement compares to the religious nuttery practiced by
> Scummo, or the outright insanity displayed by Barnaby.

Maybe you should be talking about the religious hypocrisy of KKK,
Kristina "blow in" Dog'skennel"?

Bags the Catholic church, then organises a photo op of her praying at a
Catholic Church in Cabramatta. Looking real pious after bullying an
ALP Senator to death, she was LOL.

No greater hypocrite than her.

Or the religious hypocrisy of Albasleazy AlbanesXi, going to Church for
Easter with his rent a moll on his arm, after he said he is a lapsed
Catholic, and again arranged for a photo opportunity.

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>>>>>>> I just saw a political message from Pauline Hanson on ABC-TV.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She said that Family Law in this country is broken and needs
>>>>>>>> fixing.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is she correct?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, she needs fixing, with a bullet in the back of the neck.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally we agree on something. A second bullet for Palmer would be
>>>>>> nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> True, and third one for the stupid Lambie cow.
>>>> **Lambie stands out as one of the small number of honest politicians
>>>> in the Senate. Do I always agree with her? Nope. However, she has
>>>> been straight with the electorate in that she acts for armed forces
>>>> people and the people of Tasmania. She has never wavered in those
>>>> actions.
>>>> I like that about Lambie. Dumb as a pile of rocks, but honest.
>>
>>> I thought that she was seriously deranged

>> That is precisely what she is.

> Really?

Yep.

> Tell us,

How many of you are there between those ears ?

> in as much detail as you feel necessary,how her alleged derangement
> compares tothe religious nuttery practiced by Scummo,

Which has had no real effect on his policy choices, fuckwit.

> or the outright insanity displayed by Barnaby.

You wouldn't know ahat real insanity was if bit you on your lard arse.

The voters clearly don't agree with you in their
two seats and you get to like that or lump it.

And why did you agree that she needs a bullet in the back
of the neck, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist ?