Turby wrote:

> I love FB. If I didn't have FB, I'd be forced to find some other way
> of wasting half my waking hours.

I deleted my account a year ago - don't miss it.

I've also uninstalled Twitter from my phone. It's quite liberating.

I just need to kick the Insta habit but there's too many brutalist
buildings (with cats on them) and railway pictures to look at.

--
Simon

Ace wrote:

> > I once thought it a skill, but now I think it's just an adaptation,
> > to ignore ads. I can read an entire newspaper
>
> A what now? Didn't know they still existed.

I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
electronic - ITMS.

[1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!

--
Simon

On 24/12/2021 06:46, sweller wrote:
> Turby wrote:
>
>> I love FB. If I didn't have FB, I'd be forced to find some other way
>> of wasting half my waking hours.
>
> I deleted my account a year ago - don't miss it.
>
> I've also uninstalled Twitter from my phone. It's quite liberating.
>
> I just need to kick the Insta habit but there's too many brutalist
> buildings (with cats on them) and railway pictures to look at.
>

I only signed up for a Twitter account at the start of the pandemic. I
tweeted a sort of 'diary of the plague year' in to the void and began
following some 'experts'.

Quite entertaining sitting on the sidelines watching Professors trying
to bite chunks out of each other. Also a few worthies whose politics
align roughly with mine. Yes, an echo chamber, but some of the comments
impinge on that - mostly with spittle flecked shrieks of moronic
ignorance TBF. Texas sharpshooters of data and appeals to dubious
authority by the sub-thread full in some cases.

I lapsed a bit during the summer once able to get out on a bike
occasionally and interact with the other VMCC old gimmers, face to
suitably distanced face.

I confess to being back with a vengeance with the Rise of Omicron[1].
There are a few virologists, epidemiologists and number crunchers who
aggregate the most interesting new developments. I meta aggregate them I
suppose, with the occasional comment from the perspective of a 'white
hat' that was at the coalface of public health back when TB was still
significantly around in the UK. Sometimes they need poking in attempt to
get them to look beyond their ivory towers.

Old enough now not to GAF what people think of me or say to me - in text
at least. I did have to issue a <PLONK> yesterday though (preceded by a
FRO). The whippersnapper probably had no idea what it meant.

[1] To be serialised on Prime starting Autumn 2022 as a reprise of what
may be to come then.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On 23/12/2021 13:43, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
> On 22/12/2021 21:32, YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 22/12/2021 16:29, wessie wrote:
>>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:val4sgpt66tkerd8kr6k25rig5smo06n9s@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 16:30:00 +0000, "ChrisND @UKRM"
>>>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Encourage more people to (re)discover usenet?
>>>>>
>>>>> I for one am so glad I decided to come back here after a few years
>>>>> away
>>>>> enjoying the hedonistic 'couloured in' world that is facebook world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes the best imagery is in black & white :-)
>>>>
>>>> And unfiltered by what FB thinks would be most profitable. That said,
>>>> I do use FB a lot, but one has to be aware that one tends to see what
>>>> the marketing algroithm thinks would be best for FB.
>>>>
>>>
>>> indeed - the app is next to useless[1] but one can control to a certain
>>> extent what is viewed in a Firefox, Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera,
>>> Maxthon[1] browser using FBP.
>>>
>>
>> Fixed that for you :-)
>>
>> [1] Nah, never heard of that either
>
> I used maxthon for a while - pretty good but then I started to get
> paranoid about the chinese element being the inverse of what it was
> supposed to be...
>
> These days I am a devote of Vivalid* which seems to do everything a
> browswer should and yet has easily accessible privacy options.
>
> HTH, Chris
>
> *Setup, so I am told, by one of the original team behind Opera which
> went far too 'Chromy' after version 12.18 which is when I went to
> Maxthon, then SeaGibbon and a couple of others before finding Vivaldi
> looking like Opera had previously done.
> It is also good for Windoze, Linux and Android :-)
>

And I thought I was weird sticking with FF!

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 24/12/2021 06:49, sweller wrote:
> Ace wrote:
>
>>> I once thought it a skill, but now I think it's just an adaptation,
>>> to ignore ads. I can read an entire newspaper
>>
>> A what now? Didn't know they still existed.
>
> I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this

Double +1

> assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
> electronic - ITMS.
>
I defo take in info better from printed matter, I suspect I can get bit
distracted when reading web pages.

>
> [1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!
>

A triple +1

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 24/12/2021 06:46, sweller wrote:
> Turby wrote:
>
>> I love FB. If I didn't have FB, I'd be forced to find some other way
>> of wasting half my waking hours.
>
> I deleted my account a year ago - don't miss it.

Removed account, stayed off a couple of months and created a new one.
Mainly due to some far flung friends that I have little chance of
seeing. Also some of those far flung friends directly contacted me to
make sure I was stll alive :-)

I post very very little on it.
>
> I've also uninstalled Twitter from my phone. It's quite liberating.

I went the other way, started using twitter. Very handy for what is
happening in the world and on the roads. I learnt very quickly not to
post much there :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 23/12/2021 13:43, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
> On 22/12/2021 21:32, YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 22/12/2021 16:29, wessie wrote:
>>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:val4sgpt66tkerd8kr6k25rig5smo06n9s@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 16:30:00 +0000, "ChrisND @UKRM"
>>>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Encourage more people to (re)discover usenet?
>>>>>
>>>>> I for one am so glad I decided to come back here after a few years
>>>>> away
>>>>> enjoying the hedonistic 'couloured in' world that is facebook world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes the best imagery is in black & white :-)
>>>>
>>>> And unfiltered by what FB thinks would be most profitable. That said,
>>>> I do use FB a lot, but one has to be aware that one tends to see what
>>>> the marketing algroithm thinks would be best for FB.
>>>>
>>>
>>> indeed - the app is next to useless[1] but one can control to a certain
>>> extent what is viewed in a Firefox, Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera,
>>> Maxthon[1] browser using FBP.
>>>
>>
>> Fixed that for you :-)
>>
>> [1] Nah, never heard of that either
>
> I used maxthon for a while - pretty good but then I started to get
> paranoid about the chinese element being the inverse of what it was
> supposed to be...
>
> These days I am a devote of Vivalid* which seems to do everything a
> browswer should and yet has easily accessible privacy options.
>

I parsed that as 'Vivaldi' and thought "yeah - The Four Seasons! [1]"
[1] No not them.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
>assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>electronic - ITMS.

I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.
>
>[1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!

I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
them out of duty.
--
Salad Dodger
1690 FLHTK;GL1800D
Previously ...
CB1300SA8;GL1800A6;GL1500SEV;CBR1100XXX;
CBR1000FL;CBX1000Z;GPz750R;Z750E1;Z650C2;
KH500A8;KH250B3;TS250c;TS185c.

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:28:33 +0000, Salad Dodger
<salad.dodger@idnet.com> wrote:

>On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>
>>I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
>>assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>>electronic - ITMS.

I find the ability to flick around, follow-up tangents, related
articles, etc. etc. while still leaving the original open in another
tab incredibly useful for news or other factual (particularly
scientific/medical) articles. If you're reading it in print form you'd
also need a computer next to you in order to get the most out of it.
At least, that's how I read things these days.

>I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.

It's certainly not ideal for anything that's not plain text, if that's
what you mean. Dictionary and wiki lookup are limited, to say the
least. And PDF rendering makes scrolling something of a pain,
particularly if you want enlarged text, e.g. when reading in poor
light (and without specs).

But for proper books it cannot be beaten, IMO.

>I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
>them out of duty.

I persevered with Bike for ages after we moved out of the UK, but when
you realise as it lands on your doorstep that you still haven't fully
read the previous two editions it's time to call it a day.

I still kept the 20-odd years of back issues for a long time, but
eventually realised that they were just taking up space so junked them
all as well.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

Salad Dodger <salad.dodger@idnet.com> wrote in
news:ikbbsg185ppbjt3hs602lpreqbkf3rifuj@4ax.com:

> On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>>I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
>>assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>>electronic - ITMS.
>
> I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.
>>
>>[1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!
>
> I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
> them out of duty.

have a look to see if your library has free access to e-magazines.
Pressreader and Libby are the two main providers.

We have Libby and it has all the Bauer stuff. It runs via an Android[1] App
and I mainly use it on a 10" tablet.

An issue of Ride takes about 10 minutes to read the couple of articles that
have a modicom of interest.

Libby has books as well but CBA on the tablet. CBA, with books generally
since spending half a decade in academia during the noughties.

wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
> Salad Dodger <salad.dodger@idnet.com> wrote in
> news:ikbbsg185ppbjt3hs602lpreqbkf3rifuj@4ax.com:
>
>> On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
>>> assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>>> electronic - ITMS.
>>
>> I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.
>>>
>>> [1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!
>>
>> I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
>> them out of duty.
>
> have a look to see if your library has free access to e-magazines.
> Pressreader and Libby are the two main providers.
>
I have a PressReader subscription through work and I find it really useful,
to the extent that I might actually pay for it when I finish up.

>
> An issue of Ride takes about 10 minutes to read the couple of articles that
> have a modicom of interest.
>
I find this with most bike magazines.

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 13:10:55 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:28:33 +0000, Salad Dodger
><salad.dodger@idnet.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
>>them out of duty.
>
>I persevered with Bike for ages after we moved out of the UK, but when
>you realise as it lands on your doorstep that you still haven't fully
>read the previous two editions it's time to call it a day.
>

A Readly subscription is cheap for the number of publications it
carries, so I download a lot and read at leisure. For the storage
occupied by older editions it's an easy option to just leave them
until time (or boredom) kicks in. Worth knowing that one account
allows for the other half to subscribe to her own selection.

--

Pete
Garage vacancy now filled, N+1 incremented accordingly
F800R

On 12/23/2021 10:49 PM, sweller wrote:
> Ace wrote:
>
>>> I once thought it a skill, but now I think it's just an adaptation,
>>> to ignore ads. I can read an entire newspaper
>>
>> A what now? Didn't know they still existed.
>
> I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
> assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
> electronic - ITMS.
>
Ditto. Plus, its easier to take with me and pull out at the cafe' or
while waiting at the doc's office, etc. The only downside is the fold.
Editors must want to spread a story across the fold, which blurs the
text and forces you to rustle the pages. Of course, reading online has
similar hassles.
A real benefit of papers is it entices me to read stories I wouldn't
read if it were online. Oh, and crossword puzzles. Excellent exercise
for the brain of a senile geriatric.
>
> [1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!
>
I have 2 - the Los Angeles Times, and National Geographic. The LAT is
relatively local and is one of the better investigative orgs worldwide.
The National Geographic I've had since 1958. It was about to expire, but
the world would fall apart if that happened.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

Higgins <the.best.names.are.gone@gmail.com> wrote in
news:sq4gg8$h6a$1@dont-email.me:

> wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>> Salad Dodger <salad.dodger@idnet.com> wrote in
>> news:ikbbsg185ppbjt3hs602lpreqbkf3rifuj@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
>>>> assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>>>> electronic - ITMS.
>>>
>>> I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.
>>>>
>>>> [1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!
>>>
>>> I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
>>> them out of duty.
>>
>> have a look to see if your library has free access to e-magazines.
>> Pressreader and Libby are the two main providers.
>>
> I have a PressReader subscription through work and I find it really
> useful, to the extent that I might actually pay for it when I finish
> up.
>
>>
>> An issue of Ride takes about 10 minutes to read the couple of
>> articles that have a modicom of interest.
>>
> I find this with most bike magazines.
>
>

[1] missed the footnote, probably some sort of Apple variation as well

Pete <pemur@btmungeinternet.com> wrote in
news:4hhbsg1tmonujgls2eojb26m2s4p3v3988@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 13:10:55 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:28:33 +0000, Salad Dodger
>><salad.dodger@idnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
>>>them out of duty.
>>
>>I persevered with Bike for ages after we moved out of the UK, but when
>>you realise as it lands on your doorstep that you still haven't fully
>>read the previous two editions it's time to call it a day.
>>
>
> A Readly subscription is cheap for the number of publications it
> carries, so I download a lot and read at leisure. For the storage
> occupied by older editions it's an easy option to just leave them
> until time (or boredom) kicks in. Worth knowing that one account
> allows for the other half to subscribe to her own selection.
>

via a local library is even cheaper - see my other post. Libby &
Pressreader are similar to Readly

On 24/12/2021 10:07, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 23/12/2021 13:43, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>> On 22/12/2021 21:32, YTC#1 wrote:
>>> On 22/12/2021 16:29, wessie wrote:
>>>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote in
>>>> news:val4sgpt66tkerd8kr6k25rig5smo06n9s@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 16:30:00 +0000, "ChrisND @UKRM"
>>>>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Encourage more people to (re)discover usenet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I for one am so glad I decided to come back here after a few years
>>>>>> away
>>>>>> enjoying the hedonistic 'couloured in' world that is facebook world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes the best imagery is in black & white :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> And unfiltered by what FB thinks would be most profitable. That said,
>>>>> I do use FB a lot, but one has to be aware that one tends to see what
>>>>> the marketing algroithm thinks would be best for FB.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> indeed - the app is next to useless[1] but one can control to a certain
>>>> extent what is viewed in a Firefox, Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera,
>>>> Maxthon[1] browser using FBP.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fixed that for you :-)
>>>
>>> [1] Nah, never heard of that either
>>
>> I used maxthon for a while - pretty good but then I started to get
>> paranoid about the chinese element being the inverse of what it was
>> supposed to be...
>>
>> These days I am a devote of Vivalid* which seems to do everything a
>> browswer should and yet has easily accessible privacy options.
>>
>
> I parsed that as 'Vivaldi' and thought "yeah - The Four Seasons! [1]"
> [1] No not them.

Oops, I lose a point for misspelling Vivaldi...
This anyway:
https://vivaldi.com

Meanwhile over at https://vivaldi.net there are other utilities
including webmail which I am gradually using to usurp Googly

HTH, Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 24/12/2021 10:00, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 23/12/2021 13:43, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>> On 22/12/2021 21:32, YTC#1 wrote:
>>> On 22/12/2021 16:29, wessie wrote:
>>>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote in
>>>> news:val4sgpt66tkerd8kr6k25rig5smo06n9s@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 16:30:00 +0000, "ChrisND @UKRM"
>>>>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Encourage more people to (re)discover usenet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I for one am so glad I decided to come back here after a few years
>>>>>> away
>>>>>> enjoying the hedonistic 'couloured in' world that is facebook world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes the best imagery is in black & white :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> And unfiltered by what FB thinks would be most profitable. That said,
>>>>> I do use FB a lot, but one has to be aware that one tends to see what
>>>>> the marketing algroithm thinks would be best for FB.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> indeed - the app is next to useless[1] but one can control to a certain
>>>> extent what is viewed in a Firefox, Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera,
>>>> Maxthon[1] browser using FBP.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fixed that for you :-)
>>>
>>> [1] Nah, never heard of that either
>>
>> I used maxthon for a while - pretty good but then I started to get
>> paranoid about the chinese element being the inverse of what it was
>> supposed to be...
>>
>> These days I am a devote of Vivalid* which seems to do everything a
>> browswer should and yet has easily accessible privacy options.
>>
>> HTH, Chris
>>
>> *Setup, so I am told, by one of the original team behind Opera which
>> went far too 'Chromy' after version 12.18 which is when I went to
>> Maxthon, then SeaGibbon and a couple of others before finding Vivaldi
>> looking like Opera had previously done.
>> It is also good for Windoze, Linux and Android :-)
>>
>
> And I thought I was weird sticking with FF!

I gave up on FF decades ago when it seemed to be sucking all
functionality out my machine.
Most of FF 'innovations' were originally nicked from Opera anyway :-)
Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 24/12/2021 16:39, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
> On 24/12/2021 10:00, YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 23/12/2021 13:43, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>>> On 22/12/2021 21:32, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>> On 22/12/2021 16:29, wessie wrote:
>>>>> Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>> news:val4sgpt66tkerd8kr6k25rig5smo06n9s@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 16:30:00 +0000, "ChrisND @UKRM"
>>>>>> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Encourage more people to (re)discover usenet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I for one am so glad I decided to come back here after a few
>>>>>>> years away
>>>>>>> enjoying the hedonistic 'couloured in' world that is facebook world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes the best imagery is in black & white :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And unfiltered by what FB thinks would be most profitable. That said,
>>>>>> I do use FB a lot, but one has to be aware that one tends to see what
>>>>>> the marketing algroithm thinks would be best for FB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> indeed - the app is next to useless[1] but one can control to a
>>>>> certain
>>>>> extent what is viewed in a Firefox, Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera,
>>>>> Maxthon[1] browser using FBP.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fixed that for you :-)
>>>>
>>>> [1] Nah, never heard of that either
>>>
>>> I used maxthon for a while - pretty good but then I started to get
>>> paranoid about the chinese element being the inverse of what it was
>>> supposed to be...
>>>
>>> These days I am a devote of Vivalid* which seems to do everything a
>>> browswer should and yet has easily accessible privacy options.
>>>
>>> HTH, Chris
>>>
>>> *Setup, so I am told, by one of the original team behind Opera which
>>> went far too 'Chromy' after version 12.18 which is when I went to
>>> Maxthon, then SeaGibbon and a couple of others before finding Vivaldi
>>> looking like Opera had previously done.
>>> It is also good for Windoze, Linux and Android :-)
>>>
>>
>> And I thought I was weird sticking with FF!
>
> I gave up on FF decades ago when it seemed to be sucking all
> functionality out my machine.
> Most of FF 'innovations' were originally nicked from Opera anyway :-)

I don't have many options with Solaris :-)

It has had a few hicups over the years, but has been clawing it's way
back lately.

I suppose I just trust it more, either that or inertia.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 24/12/2021 11:28, Salad Dodger wrote:
> On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
>> assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>> electronic - ITMS.
>
> I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.

The kindle is the one electronic reading mediaum I actually prefer to
use for reading.

>>
>> [1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!
>
> I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
> them out of duty.

Ride, went about 20 years ago, they just rehashed stuff every year.

Bike, I was only a irregular reader. I used to get it just for Dan Walsh
stuff.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:13:24 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

>Pete <pemur@btmungeinternet.com> wrote in
>news:4hhbsg1tmonujgls2eojb26m2s4p3v3988@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 13:10:55 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:28:33 +0000, Salad Dodger
>>><salad.dodger@idnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
>>>>them out of duty.
>>>
>>>I persevered with Bike for ages after we moved out of the UK, but when
>>>you realise as it lands on your doorstep that you still haven't fully
>>>read the previous two editions it's time to call it a day.
>>>
>>
>> A Readly subscription is cheap for the number of publications it
>> carries, so I download a lot and read at leisure. For the storage
>> occupied by older editions it's an easy option to just leave them
>> until time (or boredom) kicks in. Worth knowing that one account
>> allows for the other half to subscribe to her own selection.
>>
>
>via a local library is even cheaper - see my other post. Libby &
>Pressreader are similar to Readly

Like Ace, I don't have easy access to an English content library. Yes,
I know I could get things from other, less salubrious, sources, but
Readly just works for me - I may have mentioned it previously: I am
inordinately lazy.

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On 24/12/2021 11:28, Salad Dodger wrote:
> On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
>> assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>> electronic - ITMS.
>
> I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.
>>
>> [1] I even have [gasp] subscriptions!
>
> I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
> them out of duty.

I've been a Private Eye subscriber for (IIRC) over 40 years. Of late,
I've been falling behind in my reading, as I used to read it at
lunchtime at work and I've lost the habit with WFH. But I shan't be
cancelling it.

On 24/12/2021 19:55, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 24/12/2021 11:28, Salad Dodger wrote:
>> On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I still read papers and magazines [1].  I have no evidence for this
>>> assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>>> electronic - ITMS.
>>
>> I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.
>>>
>>> [1]  I even have [gasp] subscriptions!
>>
>> I've just cancelled "Bike" and "Ride", as I seemed to end up reading
>> them out of duty.
>
> I've been a Private Eye subscriber for (IIRC) over 40 years. Of late,
> I've been falling behind in my reading, as I used to read it at
> lunchtime at work and I've lost the habit with WFH. But I shan't be
> cancelling it.

It's good toilet reading material

--
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On 24/12/2021 19:28 Salad Dodger penned these words:
> On 24 Dec 2021 06:49:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> I still read papers and magazines [1]. I have no evidence for this
>> assertion but I feel I take in the information better if it's not
>> electronic - ITMS.
>
> I still struggle with Kindle for non-fiction.

I find anything with diagrams, so yeah a lot of non fiction. I like real books
and was saddened at how many I had to get shot of moving. Just replaced my aged
nook with a paperwhite.

>>
--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On 25/12/2021 03:55 Mike Fleming penned these words:
> I've been a Private Eye subscriber for (IIRC) over 40 years. Of late,
> I've been falling behind in my reading, as I used to read it at
> lunchtime at work and I've lost the habit with WFH. But I shan't be
> cancelling it.

If the did an e-version I'd subscribe again.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 23:13:21 +0000, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:

>I actually take my FaceBook neat: never bothered with the filter
>add-ons or whatever they are. Most ads I simply don't notice, unless
>they're very persistent and very off target.

+1

I don't scroll down FB - just look at my notifications, and the ARA
group
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neal at champ dot org dot uk

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