NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
Deal Announced

https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/

https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/

France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
is absolutely livid.

The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 18:31:30 -0700, Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>Deal Announced
>
>https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>
>https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>
>France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>is absolutely livid.
>
>The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>
Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
lair says.

So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
already paid them is to "fart arse about"
So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
purpose).
Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
breach of contract.

But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
couple in meantime?
This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly of the coast of
China around 10 days, plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
--
Petzl
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>Deal Announced
>>
>>https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>
>>https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>
>>France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>is absolutely livid.
>>
>>The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>
> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
> lair says.
>
> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
> purpose).
> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
> breach of contract.
>
> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
> couple in meantime?

> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
> of the coast of China around 10 days,

What would the point of doing that be ?

> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.

Bullshit.

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 18:31:30 -0700, Matt posted:-

> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
> Deal Announced
>
> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>
> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>
> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
> is absolutely livid.
>
> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.

Only problem is - by the time we get these subs, it will be all over.

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:06:17 +1000, Petzl posted:-

> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
> breach of contract.

You have seen the contract?

Last time you said that there would be an "out" clause, on closer
examination you have decided there is not one?

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 14:50:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>Deal Announced
>>>
>>>https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>
>>>https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>
>>>France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>is absolutely livid.
>>>
>>>The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>
>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>> lair says.
>>
>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>> purpose).
>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>> breach of contract.
>>
>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
>> couple in meantime?
>
>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>
>What would the point of doing that be ?
>
The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink
>
>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
>
>Bullshit.
>
Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.
The US has much less to cover.
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 03:52:20 -0000, Mountain Magpie
<Leura@blue.mountains.org> wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:06:17 +1000, Petzl posted:-
>
>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>> breach of contract.
>
>You have seen the contract?
>
>Last time you said that there would be an "out" clause, on closer
>examination you have decided there is not one?
>
There is a out clause but will require a finalization of payments from
Australia.
Still cheaper than paying France to do absolutely nothing but collect
money from Australia.
From Turnbull's 2009 "deal" France has not even drawn a line in its
plans to draw a plan on converting their Nuclear powered submarine to
become diesel powered one!
But has charged Australia billions for doing nothing.
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

Mountain Magpie <Leura@blue.mountains.org> wrote
> Matt wrote
>
>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>> Deal Announced
>>
>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>
>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>> is absolutely livid.
>>
>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>
> Only problem is - by the time we get these subs, it will be all over.

Nope, that shit doesn’t stop. That fool Xi is unlikely to be dead by then.

Still pointless for us tho.

On 19/09/2021 11:31 am, Matt wrote:
> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
> Deal Announced

We were before
>
> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>
> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>
> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
> is absolutely livid.

Good, laughable that they react like this given their expansionism in
the South China sea

>
> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.

Sadly by the time we get the subs the era of subs will be coming to an
end with the improvement of AI underwater drones
>

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>Deal Announced
>>>>
>>>>https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>
>>>>https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>
>>>>France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>>is absolutely livid.
>>>>
>>>>The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>>
>>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>>> lair says.
>>>
>>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>>> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
>>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>>> purpose).
>>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>>> breach of contract.
>>>
>>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
>>> couple in meantime?
>>
>>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>>
>>What would the point of doing that be ?

> The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink

But the yanks would have sunk them by the time we got there.

>>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.

>> Bullshit.

> Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
> anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.

You cant watch for the best subs and china wouldn't
have anything to watch with by then anyway.

> The US has much less to cover.

They aren't stupid enough to do that with subs.

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:55:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>>Deal Announced
>>>>>
>>>>>https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>
>>>>>https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>
>>>>>France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>>>is absolutely livid.
>>>>>
>>>>>The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>>key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>>>
>>>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>>>> lair says.
>>>>
>>>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>>>> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
>>>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>>>> purpose).
>>>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>>>> breach of contract.
>>>>
>>>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>>>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>>>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>>>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
>>>> couple in meantime?
>>>
>>>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>>>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>>>
>>>What would the point of doing that be ?
>
>> The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink
>
>But the yanks would have sunk them by the time we got there.
>
Like defeat of Napoleon over extended ambitions
>
>>>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
>
>>> Bullshit.
>
>> Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
>> anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.
>
>You cant watch for the best subs and china wouldn't
>have anything to watch with by then anyway.
>
China would have to split their forces
>
>> The US has much less to cover.
>
>They aren't stupid enough to do that with subs.
>
Also Satellites, coastal intelligence, all combined against China
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:52:20 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 19/09/2021 11:31 am, Matt wrote:
>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>> Deal Announced
>
>We were before
>>
>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>
>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>> is absolutely livid.
>
>Good, laughable that they react like this given their expansionism in
>the South China sea
>
>>
>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>
>Sadly by the time we get the subs the era of subs will be coming to an
>end with the improvement of AI underwater droned
>
Communication with underwater drones even submarines is not yet good
>>
>The In-Laws 1979
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On 19/09/2021 5:34 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:52:20 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 19/09/2021 11:31 am, Matt wrote:
>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>> Deal Announced
>>
>> We were before
>>>
>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>
>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>> is absolutely livid.
>>
>> Good, laughable that they react like this given their expansionism in
>> the South China sea
>>
>>>
>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>>
>> Sadly by the time we get the subs the era of subs will be coming to an
>> end with the improvement of AI underwater droned
>>
> Communication with underwater drones even submarines is not yet good

'Yet'. By the time we get the subs in 10-20 years or so, maybe, subs
will be in their last days. Maybe useful for some very limited uses.
Maybe I'll be proven wrong.

On 19/09/2021 4:33 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:55:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>>> Deal Announced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>>> key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>>>>> lair says.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>>>>> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
>>>>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>>>>> purpose).
>>>>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>>>>> breach of contract.
>>>>>
>>>>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>>>>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>>>>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>>>>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
>>>>> couple in meantime?
>>>>
>>>>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>>>>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>>>>
>>>> What would the point of doing that be ?
>>
>>> The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink
>>
>> But the yanks would have sunk them by the time we got there.
>>
> Like defeat of Napoleon over extended ambitions
>>
>>>>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>
>>> Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
>>> anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.
>>
>> You cant watch for the best subs and china wouldn't
>> have anything to watch with by then anyway.
>>
> China would have to split their forces

The idea akaik is to not allow is to keep the rapidly expanding and
modernising Chinese navy in the China sea by bottling up choke points

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:45:53 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 19/09/2021 4:33 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:55:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>>>> Deal Announced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>>>> key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>>>>>> lair says.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>>>>>> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
>>>>>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>>>>>> purpose).
>>>>>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>>>>>> breach of contract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>>>>>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>>>>>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>>>>>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
>>>>>> couple in meantime?
>>>>>
>>>>>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>>>>>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>>>>>
>>>>> What would the point of doing that be ?
>>>
>>>> The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink
>>>
>>> But the yanks would have sunk them by the time we got there.
>>>
>> Like defeat of Napoleon over extended ambitions
>>>
>>>>>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>>> Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
>>>> anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.
>>>
>>> You cant watch for the best subs and china wouldn't
>>> have anything to watch with by then anyway.
>>>
>> China would have to split their forces
>
>The idea akaik is to not allow is to keep the rapidly expanding and
>modernising Chinese navy in the China sea by bottling up choke points
>
The Chinese cannot detect US submarines
If we have them they won't detect us either
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:42:57 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 19/09/2021 5:34 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:52:20 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/09/2021 11:31 am, Matt wrote:
>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>> Deal Announced
>>>
>>> We were before
>>>>
>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>
>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>
>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>
>>> Good, laughable that they react like this given their expansionism in
>>> the South China sea
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>>>
>>> Sadly by the time we get the subs the era of subs will be coming to an
>>> end with the improvement of AI underwater droned
>>>
>> Communication with underwater drones even submarines is not yet good
>
>'Yet'. By the time we get the subs in 10-20 years or so, maybe, subs
>will be in their last days. Maybe useful for some very limited uses.
>Maybe I'll be proven wrong.
>
Even our own subs can only be traced by their super-secret emitter
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On 19/09/2021 6:44 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:45:53 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 19/09/2021 4:33 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:55:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>>>>> Deal Announced
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>>>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>>>>> key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>>>>>>> lair says.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>>>>>>> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
>>>>>>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>>>>>>> purpose).
>>>>>>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>>>>>>> breach of contract.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>>>>>>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>>>>>>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>>>>>>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
>>>>>>> couple in meantime?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>>>>>>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What would the point of doing that be ?
>>>>
>>>>> The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink
>>>>
>>>> But the yanks would have sunk them by the time we got there.
>>>>
>>> Like defeat of Napoleon over extended ambitions
>>>>
>>>>>>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
>>>>> anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.
>>>>
>>>> You cant watch for the best subs and china wouldn't
>>>> have anything to watch with by then anyway.
>>>>
>>> China would have to split their forces
>>
>> The idea akaik is to not allow is to keep the rapidly expanding and
>> modernising Chinese navy in the China sea by bottling up choke points
>>
> The Chinese cannot detect US submarines

How do you know, can the US detect the Chinese nuke subs both the attack
subs and ballistic missile subs?

> If we have them they won't detect us either

Who knows what the situation in 20 years will be
>

On 19/09/2021 6:47 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:42:57 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 19/09/2021 5:34 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:52:20 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/09/2021 11:31 am, Matt wrote:
>>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>> Deal Announced
>>>>
>>>> We were before
>>>>>
>>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>
>>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>>
>>>> Good, laughable that they react like this given their expansionism in
>>>> the South China sea
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly by the time we get the subs the era of subs will be coming to an
>>>> end with the improvement of AI underwater droned
>>>>
>>> Communication with underwater drones even submarines is not yet good
>>
>> 'Yet'. By the time we get the subs in 10-20 years or so, maybe, subs
>> will be in their last days. Maybe useful for some very limited uses.
>> Maybe I'll be proven wrong.
>>
> Even our own subs can only be traced by their super-secret emitter
>
You mean all that money spent on anti-sub warfare is a waste? WOW

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> Matt wrote

>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>> Deal Announced
>
> We were before
>>
>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>
>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>> is absolutely livid.
>
> Good, laughable that they react like this given their expansionism in the
> South China sea
>
>>
>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>
> Sadly by the time we get the subs the era of subs will be coming to an end
> with the improvement of AI underwater drones

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken fake farmer fantasys.

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> On 19/09/2021 5:34 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:52:20 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/09/2021 11:31 am, Matt wrote:
>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>> Deal Announced
>>>
>>> We were before
>>>>
>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>
>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>
>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>
>>> Good, laughable that they react like this given their expansionism in
>>> the South China sea
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>>>
>>> Sadly by the time we get the subs the era of subs will be coming to an
>>> end with the improvement of AI underwater droned
>>>
>> Communication with underwater drones even submarines is not yet good
>
> 'Yet'. By the time we get the subs in 10-20 years or so, maybe, subs will
> be in their last days.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fake farmer
fantasys.

> Maybe I'll be proven wrong.

No maybe about it, as always.

Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
> On 19/09/2021 4:33 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:55:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>>>> Deal Announced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but
>>>>>>> China
>>>>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>>>> key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>>>>>> lair says.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>>>>>> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
>>>>>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>>>>>> purpose).
>>>>>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>>>>>> breach of contract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>>>>>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>>>>>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>>>>>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> couple in meantime?
>>>>>
>>>>>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>>>>>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>>>>>
>>>>> What would the point of doing that be ?
>>>
>>>> The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink
>>>
>>> But the yanks would have sunk them by the time we got there.
>>>
>> Like defeat of Napoleon over extended ambitions
>>>
>>>>>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>>> Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
>>>> anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.
>>>
>>> You cant watch for the best subs and china wouldn't
>>> have anything to watch with by then anyway.
>>>
>> China would have to split their forces
>
> The idea akaik is to not allow is to keep the rapidly expanding and
> modernising Chinese navy in the China sea by bottling up choke points

Clearly completely blotto and drug crazed, as always.

On 19/09/2021 7:27 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote
>> On 19/09/2021 4:33 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:55:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>>>>> Deal Announced
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but
>>>>>>>> China
>>>>>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA
>>>>>>>> exploits a
>>>>>>>> key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>>>>>>> lair says.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>>>>>>> already paid them is  to "fart arse about"
>>>>>>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>>>>>>> purpose).
>>>>>>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>>>>>>> breach of contract.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>>>>>>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>>>>>>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>>>>>>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could
>>>>>>> lease a
>>>>>>> couple in meantime?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>>>>>>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What would the point of doing that be ?
>>>>
>>>>> The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink
>>>>
>>>> But the yanks would have sunk them by the time we got there.
>>>>
>>> Like defeat of Napoleon over extended ambitions
>>>>
>>>>>>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
>>>>> anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.
>>>>
>>>> You cant watch for the best subs and china wouldn't
>>>> have anything to watch with by then anyway.
>>>>
>>> China would have to split their forces
>>
>> The idea akaik is to not allow is to keep the rapidly expanding and
>> modernising Chinese navy in the China sea by bottling up choke points
>
> Clearly completely blotto and drug crazed, as always.

nice sig

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:54:57 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 19/09/2021 6:44 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:45:53 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/09/2021 4:33 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:55:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Matt <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China's CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>>>>>> Deal Announced
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>>>>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>>>>>> key weakness in China's navy - the war below the waterline.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just be Cautious in believing anything Biden a blowhard, thief and a
>>>>>>>> lair says.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far all the French have done with the $billions Australia have
>>>>>>>> already paid them is to "fart arse about"
>>>>>>>> So maybe just a way for Scott Morrison to dump the French (the real
>>>>>>>> purpose).
>>>>>>>> Which even in dumping a lot of even more money will still be paid,
>>>>>>>> breach of contract.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But yes *if* the US deal can provide 8 of their nuclear powered
>>>>>>>> submarines promptly (and not affecting public opinion)
>>>>>>>> Building them all in South Australia means they can't, so already
>>>>>>>> smells fishy, but maybe, to test if offer is genuine, we could lease a
>>>>>>>> couple in meantime?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This would put Australia able to arrive invisibly
>>>>>>>> of the coast of China around 10 days,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What would the point of doing that be ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Chinese navy can do nothing but sink
>>>>>
>>>>> But the yanks would have sunk them by the time we got there.
>>>>>
>>>> Like defeat of Napoleon over extended ambitions
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> plus takes pressure of US military expenditure.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, with 8 invisible and fast submarines. faster more reliable than
>>>>>> anything China has means the Chinese have more area to watch.
>>>>>
>>>>> You cant watch for the best subs and china wouldn't
>>>>> have anything to watch with by then anyway.
>>>>>
>>>> China would have to split their forces
>>>
>>> The idea akaik is to not allow is to keep the rapidly expanding and
>>> modernising Chinese navy in the China sea by bottling up choke points
>>>
>> The Chinese cannot detect US submarines
>
>How do you know, can the US detect the Chinese nuke subs both the attack
>subs and ballistic missile subs?
>
Chinese submarines are noisy even satellites can detect them
>
>> If we have them they won't detect us either
>
>Who knows what the situation in 20 years will be
>>
If the offer is genuine the US can lease submarines to us.
The 20 years is bull
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 19:00:32 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 19/09/2021 6:47 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:42:57 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/09/2021 5:34 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:52:20 +1000, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/09/2021 11:31 am, Matt wrote:
>>>>>> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
>>>>>> Deal Announced
>>>>>
>>>>> We were before
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
>>>>>> is absolutely livid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good, laughable that they react like this given their expansionism in
>>>>> the South China sea
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The submarine deal between the UK, Australia, and the USA exploits a
>>>>>> key weakness in China’s navy — the war below the waterline.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly by the time we get the subs the era of subs will be coming to an
>>>>> end with the improvement of AI underwater droned
>>>>>
>>>> Communication with underwater drones even submarines is not yet good
>>>
>>> 'Yet'. By the time we get the subs in 10-20 years or so, maybe, subs
>>> will be in their last days. Maybe useful for some very limited uses.
>>> Maybe I'll be proven wrong.
>>>
>> Even our own subs can only be traced by their super-secret emitter
>>
>You mean all that money spent on anti-sub warfare is a waste? WOW
>
Yes our submarines sunk American Aircraft carriers in war games a
number of times
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

a.f.rush-limbaugh removed.

Matt wrote on 19/9/21 11:31 am:
> NUKE AUSTRALIA: China’s CCP News Names Aussies As Target After Sub
> Deal Announced
>
> https://clashdaily.com/2021/09/nuke-australia-chinas-ccp-news-names-aussies-as-target-after-sub-deal-announced/
>
> https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/chinese-paper-tags-australia-as-target-for-a-nuclear-strike/
>
> France may be upset at being left out of the cold by AUKUS, but China
> is absolutely livid.

Is there any possibility, I wonder, of France joining in on this
Sub-building project .... so A.U.K.U.S. might become F.A.U.K.U.S.??
--
Daniel