For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333

We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
for the sick.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
There are 10 types of people in the world, those who do binary and those
who don't.

Do you know why?
It is because a lot of people near retiring age after Covid decided not to
return to work and worked out they could live happily without that huge
house, the BNW and holidays in the Bahamas, and the young decided to go to
further education rather then enter the job market. That is why, the
workforce has shrunk so there is less unemployment since there are fewer
people in the Job market.
Brian

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"Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0nnz7rexnnbs04f@news.individual.net...
>
> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>
> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
> for the sick.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
> There are 10 types of people in the world, those who do binary and those
> who don't.

On 11 Oct 2022 at 08:40:22 BST, "Jeff Gaines" wrote:

>
> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>

Would it be too much for you to mention the low pay, job insecurity, poor
conditions and absolute poverty a large amount of those 'employed' are living
with?
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 11/10/2022 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333

Even before Brexit, our unemployment rate was one of the lowest in
Europe. This is only slightly lower than then.

> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
> for the sick.
>

--
Colin Bignell

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 18:40:22 +1100, Jeff Gaines
<jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:

But that has nothing to do with brexit and is being
seen right thruout most the world at the moment.

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333

> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
> for the sick.

And the disabled.

On 11/10/2022 09:02, RJH wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2022 at 08:40:22 BST, "Jeff Gaines" wrote:
>
>>
>> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>
>
> Would it be too much for you to mention the low pay, job insecurity, poor
> conditions and absolute poverty a large amount of those 'employed' are living
> with?

W arent discussing Germany
--
Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 19:02:35 +1100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

> On 11 Oct 2022 at 08:40:22 BST, "Jeff Gaines" wrote:
>
>>
>> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>
>
> Would it be too much for you to mention the low pay, job insecurity, poor
> conditions and absolute poverty a large amount of those 'employed' are
> living
> with?

That's not the reason there are currently more jobs than the unemployed.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:40:22 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>
> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
> for the sick.

Meanwhile the BoE is pushing rocks uphill - and will eventually fail.

On 11/10/2022 09:02, RJH wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2022 at 08:40:22 BST, "Jeff Gaines" wrote:
>
>>
>> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>
>
> Would it be too much for you to mention the low pay, job insecurity, poor
> conditions and absolute poverty a large amount of those 'employed' are living
> with?
>

Presumably that will include the despicable zero hours contracts.

--
Regards
wasbit

On 11/10/2022 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>
> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
> for the sick.
>

A little more research shows that the reason that the unemployment level
is so low is that there are fewer people seeking work, because the
number of people who have long term sickness is at a record high level.
Do you want to claim that as a benefit of Brexit?

--
Colin Bignell

On 11/10/2022 in message <ti37ur$12kjg$1@dont-email.me> RJH wrote:

>On 11 Oct 2022 at 08:40:22 BST, "Jeff Gaines" wrote:
>
>>
>>For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>>article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>
>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>
>
>Would it be too much for you to mention the low pay, job insecurity, poor
>conditions and absolute poverty a large amount of those 'employed' are
>living
>with?

What's the relevance?

Employment has changed over the last 25 years and will continue to do so,
jobs for life no longer exist, get used to it.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

On 11/10/2022 in message <pNKdnRjU8K0IpNj-nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
Colin Bignell wrote:

>On 11/10/2022 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>>For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>>article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>
>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>
>>We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
>>for the sick.
>>
>
>A little more research shows that the reason that the unemployment level
>is so low is that there are fewer people seeking work, because the number
>of people who have long term sickness is at a record high level. Do you
>want to claim that as a benefit of Brexit?

In what way is it connected with Brexit, unless it's whining remoaners
whose continued whining and refusal to accept the result of a democratic
vote has made them ill?

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant

On 11/10/2022 10:44, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 11/10/2022 in message <pNKdnRjU8K0IpNj-nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
> Colin Bignell wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2022 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>
>>> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>>> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>>
>>> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them
>>> except for the sick.
>>>
>>
>> A little more research shows that the reason that the unemployment
>> level is so low is that there are fewer people seeking work, because
>> the number of people who have long term sickness is at a record high
>> level. Do you want to claim that as a benefit of Brexit?
>
> In what way is it connected with Brexit, unless it's whining remoaners
> whose continued whining and refusal to accept the result of a democratic
> vote has made them ill?
>

You are claiming that low unemployment is a benefit of Brexit, when it
has been caused by record numbers of people with long term illness. So,
unless you are claiming that the number of people who are ill is a
benefit of Brexit, you can't claim the low unemployment level as one.

--
Colin Bignell

On 11/10/2022 09:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Do you know why?
> It is because a lot of people near retiring age after Covid decided not to
> return to work and worked out they could live happily without that huge
> house, the BNW and holidays in the Bahamas, and the young decided to go to
> further education rather then enter the job market. That is why, the
> workforce has shrunk so there is less unemployment since there are fewer
> people in the Job market.

Any chance of data to backup your claims?

My data suggests that apart from the blip associated with Covid,
employment is still increasing:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/297073/workforce-jobs-uk/

On 11/10/2022 09:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 11/10/2022 09:02, RJH wrote:
>> On 11 Oct 2022 at 08:40:22 BST, "Jeff Gaines" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>>> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>>
>>
>> Would it be too much for you to mention the low pay, job insecurity, poor
>> conditions and absolute poverty a large amount of those 'employed' are
>> living
>> with?
>
> W arent discussing Germany

You're very observant, aren't you? Is there some cryptic point you're
trying to make?

On 11/10/2022 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>
> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
> for the sick.

It's ironic that most those who whinge about the unemployed are the ones
sitting cosy with their state benefit (state pension).

If that were cut, then those who discovered from lockdowns they didn't
need to work, they might be less lazy and go out to work.

On 11/10/2022 09:02, RJH wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2022 at 08:40:22 BST, "Jeff Gaines" wrote:
>
>>
>> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>
>
> Would it be too much for you to mention the low pay, job insecurity, poor
> conditions and absolute poverty a large amount of those 'employed' are living
> with?

Agreed.

And the way benefits are targetted such that for every GBP they earn,
another is taken from their benefit.

On 11/10/2022 10:52, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 11/10/2022 10:44, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> On 11/10/2022 in message
>> <pNKdnRjU8K0IpNj-nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> Colin Bignell wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2022 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit, BBC
>>>> article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50 years:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>>>
>>>> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them
>>>> except for the sick.
>>>>
>>>
>>> A little more research shows that the reason that the unemployment
>>> level is so low is that there are fewer people seeking work, because
>>> the number of people who have long term sickness is at a record high
>>> level. Do you want to claim that as a benefit of Brexit?
>>
>> In what way is it connected with Brexit, unless it's whining remoaners
>> whose continued whining and refusal to accept the result of a
>> democratic vote has made them ill?
>>
>
> You are claiming that low unemployment is a benefit of Brexit, when it
> has been caused by record numbers of people with long term illness.

Feel free to provide the evidence for this claim.

What is certain, is that Brexit has caused a number of labour shortages.
Some of those shortages are from Brexit such as the temporary closure of
DVLA testing centres.

Labour shortages can only be good for those who work. Those too lazy to
work often seem to think everyone else should work, apart from them of
course.

> So,
> unless you are claiming that the number of people who are ill is a
> benefit of Brexit, you can't claim the low unemployment level as one.

I didn't think he was claiming this?

On 11/10/2022 11:22, Fredxx wrote:
> On 11/10/2022 10:52, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 11/10/2022 10:44, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2022 in message
>>> <pNKdnRjU8K0IpNj-nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2022 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For the whining moaners in here who keep whingeing about Brexit,
>>>>> BBC article confirming unemployment is at its lowest rate for 50
>>>>> years:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63204333
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them
>>>>> except for the sick.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A little more research shows that the reason that the unemployment
>>>> level is so low is that there are fewer people seeking work, because
>>>> the number of people who have long term sickness is at a record high
>>>> level. Do you want to claim that as a benefit of Brexit?
>>>
>>> In what way is it connected with Brexit, unless it's whining
>>> remoaners whose continued whining and refusal to accept the result of
>>> a democratic vote has made them ill?
>>>
>>
>> You are claiming that low unemployment is a benefit of Brexit, when it
>> has been caused by record numbers of people with long term illness.
>
> Feel free to provide the evidence for this claim.

It is in the updated article you will find by following the link
provided by the OP.

> What is certain, is that Brexit has caused a number of labour shortages.
> Some of those shortages are from Brexit such as the temporary closure of
> DVLA testing centres.
>
> Labour shortages can only be good for those who work.

They are bad for the businesses that can't recruit people and, if they
fail, that is bad for those who work.

> Those too lazy to
> work often seem to think everyone else should work, apart from them of
> course.

An invalid stereotype for the majority of the unemployed.

>
>> So, unless you are claiming that the number of people who are ill is a
>> benefit of Brexit, you can't claim the low unemployment level as one.
>
> I didn't think he was claiming this?

It is in the thread title.

--
Colin Bignell

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:40:22 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
> for the sick.

I recommend that we start with the State Old Age Pension. People should
have put sufficient aside during their working lives to pay for their
retirement. If they haven't, they should continue to work.

On 11/10/2022 11:38, Bev wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:40:22 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
>> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
>> for the sick.
>
> I recommend that we start with the State Old Age Pension. People should
> have put sufficient aside during their working lives to pay for their
> retirement. If they haven't, they should continue to work.

Hey! That is my extra luxuries fund.

--
Colin Bignell

On 11/10/2022 in message <8fOdnQO7ALdl1dj-nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
Colin Bignell wrote:

>On 11/10/2022 11:38, Bev wrote:
>>On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:40:22 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>>>We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them except
>>>for the sick.
>>
>>I recommend that we start with the State Old Age Pension. People should
>>have put sufficient aside during their working lives to pay for their
>>retirement. If they haven't, they should continue to work.
>
>Hey! That is my extra luxuries fund.

And mine, my private pension pays normal living costs :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
I take full responsibility for what happened - that is why the person that
was responsible went immediately.
(Gordon Brown, April 2009)

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 10:51:19 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> On 11/10/2022 in message <8fOdnQO7ALdl1dj-nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
> Colin Bignell wrote:
>
>>On 11/10/2022 11:38, Bev wrote:
>>>On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:40:22 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>
>>>>We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them
>>>>except for the sick.
>>>
>>>I recommend that we start with the State Old Age Pension. People
>>>should have put sufficient aside during their working lives to pay for
>>>their retirement. If they haven't, they should continue to work.
>>
>>Hey! That is my extra luxuries fund.
>
> And mine, my private pension pays normal living costs :-)

So you don't need a state pension then - perhaps you could donate it to
those who are in need.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 11:44:22 +0100, Colin Bignell wrote:

> On 11/10/2022 11:38, Bev wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:40:22 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>>> We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them
>>> except for the sick.
>>
>> I recommend that we start with the State Old Age Pension. People
>> should have put sufficient aside during their working lives to pay for
>> their retirement. If they haven't, they should continue to work.
>
> Hey! That is my extra luxuries fund.

:)

On 11/10/2022 in message <ti3i4d$13bsj$1@dont-email.me> Bev wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 10:51:19 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
>>On 11/10/2022 in message <8fOdnQO7ALdl1dj-nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>Colin Bignell wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/10/2022 11:38, Bev wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:40:22 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>We need to start reducing benefits now, there is no need for them
>>>>>except for the sick.
>>>>
>>>>I recommend that we start with the State Old Age Pension. People
>>>>should have put sufficient aside during their working lives to pay for
>>>>their retirement. If they haven't, they should continue to work.
>>>
>>>Hey! That is my extra luxuries fund.
>>
>>And mine, my private pension pays normal living costs :-)
>
>So you don't need a state pension then - perhaps you could donate it to
>those who are in need.

I worked hard for my pensions, they would both be higher if we didn't all
have to subsidise socialist scroungers.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is