The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
its snout for the trough, please?

On 20/10/2022 18:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,

She will have to *pay* people to attend her after dinner speeches.

How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!

Coffey is even worse - same effect as Mogadon at the Party Conference.

> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
> its snout for the trough, please?

Rishi Sunak was robbed for telling the truth. He described in great
detail exactly if the senile delinquents of the Tory faithful elected a
swivel eyed loon simpleton like Truss to be Prime Minister.

They are now completely unelectable and deserve to be out of power for
at least a decade - if the party even survives in its present form.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 04:25:07 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
> circuit these days,

It is very far from clear that Boris is doing that.

> so that seems to be the current preferred method
> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something,
most obviously with May and Cameron.

> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,

Very unlikely with that record.

> that will pretty much prove it.

Nope, given May and Cameron.

> Will the next candidate kindly present
> its snout for the trough, please?

It is far from clear if anyone who matters is actually that stupid at the
moment.

On 20/10/2022 18:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
> its snout for the trough, please?

Looks like it will be Boris, Mordaunt or Fishi.
My bet is that it will be Boris.

Unless the MPS decide that losing their seats and the next election is
preferable, which given the flak they are likely to get as the world
economic and renewable energy fuck up unrolls, is likely to be considerable.

--
“I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

― Leo Tolstoy

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 04:43:05 +1100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

> On 20/10/2022 18:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
>> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
>> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
>> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
>> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
>
> She will have to *pay* people to attend her after dinner speeches.
>
> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
>
> Coffey is even worse - same effect as Mogadon at the Party Conference.
>
>> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
>> its snout for the trough, please?
>
> Rishi Sunak was robbed for telling the truth. He described in great
> detail exactly if the senile delinquents of the Tory faithful elected a
> swivel eyed loon simpleton like Truss to be Prime Minister.
>
> They are now completely unelectable and deserve to be out of power for
> at least a decade

No chance of that.

> - if the party even survives in its present form.

Corse it will given how pathetic the alternatives are.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:25:07 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
>circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
>for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
>So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
>history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
>that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
>its snout for the trough, please?

"Liz Truss entitled to �115K per year from taxpayer for the rest of
her life"

That's all right then, she can afford to pay people to listen to her
speeches, but can she please get rid of that supercilious cheshire cat
(sorry cat) grin.

--
AnthonyL

Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 05:08:48 +1100
zall <zall7dr@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 04:25:07 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > Will the next candidate kindly present
> > its snout for the trough, please?
>
> It is far from clear if anyone who matters is actually that stupid at
> the moment.

In my experience, most politicians are prepared to look *very* stupid
if there's enough money in it.

--
Joe

On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

>
> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
>
>

That was done in 2008. There was never going to be a good way to
restore interest rates to something that would allow an economy to
function properly, not with the kind of debt the government had run up.

Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into casinos,
with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of forgery,
sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be avoided?

Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for
Sunak, and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.

Whose idea was it to present the members with a choice between just
those two? OK, the Conservatives (like the other parties) are a bit
short of visibly competent MPs, but...Truss?

--
Joe

On 20 Oct 2022 at 21:17:11 BST, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> Whose idea was it to present the members with a choice between just
> those two? OK, the Conservatives (like the other parties) are a bit
> short of visibly competent MPs, but...Truss?

As opposed to what? The rules as you see them laid out are, IIRC, proposed to
and then voted on by the Tory National Convention, a body consisting of all
national and local party officers.

--
Lady Astor: "If you were my husband I'd give you poison."
Churchill: "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."

In article <63519581.469722406@news.eternal-september.org>, AnthonyL
<nospam@please.invalid> scribeth thus
>On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:25:07 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
>>circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
>>for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
>>So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
>>history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
>>that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
>>its snout for the trough, please?
>
>
>"Liz Truss entitled to £115K per year from taxpayer for the rest of
>her life"
>
>That's all right then, she can afford to pay people to listen to her
>speeches, but can she please get rid of that supercilious cheshire cat
>(sorry cat) grin.
>
>
Din't the said cat fade away till only its grin was left;)...

--
Tony Sayer

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:03 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 05:08:48 +1100
> zall <zall7dr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 04:25:07 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Will the next candidate kindly present
>> > its snout for the trough, please?
>>
>> It is far from clear if anyone who matters is actually that stupid at
>> the moment.
>
> In my experience, most politicians are prepared to look *very* stupid
> if there's enough money in it.

But there isn't enough money in it in this case, just the guaranteed
pension for life.

Sunak particularly has FAR more money than that
already, even if his wife does pull the plug on him.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:17:11 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100
> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
>>
>>
>
> That was done in 2008.

But Brown isnt earning huge after dinner speech fees.

> There was never going to be a good way to
> restore interest rates to something that would allow an economy to
> function properly, not with the kind of debt the government had run up.

Have fun explaining why there is now.

> Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into casinos,
> with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of forgery,
> sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be avoided?

The US economy is doing fine.

> Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
> exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for Sunak,

Don't buy that conspiracy theory.

> and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.

There is a real tendency to throw a woman or 'colored' person
under the bus when the shit has hit the fan, but that doesnt
explain why they chose to politically assassinate Boris.

Looks much more likely that it was just Boris haters and
those who thought that they could do better involved.

Turns out that fool Truss did FAR worse than Boris could ever manage.

> Whose idea was it to present the members with a choice between just
> those two?

That was no planned choice, it was the result of the way
the Torys do the way they do their new 'leader' system.

> OK, the Conservatives (like the other parties) area bit short of
> visibly competent MPs, but...Truss?

It wasn't that clear she was that bad until it came to the crunch.

And we still don't know how bad Sunak would have been
when the shit hit the fan with the big surge in the sost of
living without any real way to deal with that available.

On 20/10/2022 19:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 20/10/2022 18:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
>> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
>> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
>> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
>> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
>> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
>> its snout for the trough, please?
>
> Looks like it will be Boris, Mordaunt or Fishi.
> My bet is that it will be Boris.

The bookies don't agree with you, so you should be able to get good odds.

> Unless the MPS decide that losing their seats and the next election is
> preferable, which given the flak they are likely to get as the world
> economic and renewable energy fuck up unrolls, is likely to be
> considerable.

Boris is the reason that the Conservatives started to be less popular
than Labour. It all went pear shaped after Partygate. I don't see him
being the person to reverse the trend.

--
Colin Bignell

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:20:04 +1100, Colin Bignell
<cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

> On 20/10/2022 19:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 20/10/2022 18:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
>>> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
>>> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
>>> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
>>> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
>>> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
>>> its snout for the trough, please?
>> Looks like it will be Boris, Mordaunt or Fishi.
>> My bet is that it will be Boris.
>
> The bookies don't agree with you, so you should be able to get good odds.

But they fucked up with the referendum and the election
that binned the coalition and could well do so again.

>> Unless the MPS decide that losing their seats and the next election is
>> preferable, which given the flak they are likely to get as the world
>> economic and renewable energy fuck up unrolls, is likely to be
>> considerable.

> Boris is the reason that the Conservatives started to be less popular
> than Labour. It all went pear shaped after Partygate.

But it is very far from clear whether that would have lasted
for 3.5 years till the election.

> I don't see him being the person to reverse the trend.

Its irrelevant now given that the voters normally stupidly punish
any govt that was driving the bus when the cost of living spikes
even when that was not due to anything the govt did.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 21:17:11 +0100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100
>Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
>>
>>
>
>That was done in 2008. There was never going to be a good way to
>restore interest rates to something that would allow an economy to
>function properly, not with the kind of debt the government had run up.
>
>Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into casinos,
>with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of forgery,
>sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be avoided?
>
>Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
>exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for
>Sunak, and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.
>
>Whose idea was it to present the members with a choice between just
>those two? OK, the Conservatives (like the other parties) are a bit
>short of visibly competent MPs, but...Truss?

The Establishment didn't want to risk the members electing a *true*
Conservative - which they *would* have done, given the chance.

On 20/10/2022 21:17, Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100
> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
>>
>>
>
> That was done in 2008. There was never going to be a good way to
> restore interest rates to something that would allow an economy to
> function properly, not with the kind of debt the government had run up.
>
> Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into casinos,
> with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of forgery,
> sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be avoided?
>
> Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
> exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for
> Sunak, and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.
>
> Whose idea was it to present the members with a choice between just
> those two? OK, the Conservatives (like the other parties) are a bit
> short of visibly competent MPs, but...Truss?
>

I suspect it was a plan that went wrong. Mordaunt was expected to beat
Sunak if they ended up as the last two, so the party contrived to put
him up against somebody they didn't think would win.

--
Colin Bignell

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:22:22 +1100, Colin Bignell
<cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

> On 20/10/2022 21:17, Joe wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100
>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
>>>
>>>
>> That was done in 2008. There was never going to be a good way to
>> restore interest rates to something that would allow an economy to
>> function properly, not with the kind of debt the government had run up.
>> Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into
>> casinos,
>> with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of forgery,
>> sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be avoided?
>> Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
>> exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for
>> Sunak, and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.
>> Whose idea was it to present the members with a choice between just
>> those two? OK, the Conservatives (like the other parties) are a bit
>> short of visibly competent MPs, but...Truss?

> I suspect it was a plan that went wrong.

Just another silly conspiracy theory.

> Mordaunt was expected to beat Sunak if they ended up as the last two, so
> the party contrived to put him up against somebody they didn't think
> would win.

In article <op.1ucym6q1byq249@pvr2.lan>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:17:11 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> > On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100 Martin Brown
> > <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
> >>
> >>
> >
> > That was done in 2008.

> But Brown isnt earning huge after dinner speech fees.

> > There was never going to be a good way to restore interest rates to
> > something that would allow an economy to function properly, not with
> > the kind of debt the government had run up.

> Have fun explaining why there is now.

> > Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into
> > casinos, with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of
> > forgery, sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be
> > avoided?

> The US economy is doing fine.

> > Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
> > exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for
> > Sunak,

> Don't buy that conspiracy theory.

> > and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.

> There is a real tendency to throw a woman or 'colored' person under the
> bus when the shit has hit the fan, but that doesnt explain why they chose
> to politically assassinate Boris.

Boris was a lier.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article <ebk3lhdlgji6uk8fodlni7gem7gdrpqoqb@4ax.com>,
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 21:17:11 +0100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> >On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100
> >Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >That was done in 2008. There was never going to be a good way to
> >restore interest rates to something that would allow an economy to
> >function properly, not with the kind of debt the government had run up.
> >
> >Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into casinos,
> >with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of forgery,
> >sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be avoided?
> >
> >Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
> >exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for
> >Sunak, and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.
> >
> >Whose idea was it to present the members with a choice between just
> >those two? OK, the Conservatives (like the other parties) are a bit
> >short of visibly competent MPs, but...Truss?

> The Establishment didn't want to risk the members electing a *true*
> Conservative - which they *would* have done, given the chance.

Certainly the current "Conservatives" are nothing like the ones I supported
in the 1960s/70s.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:32:22 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
wrote:

> In article <op.1ucym6q1byq249@pvr2.lan>, Rod Speed
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:17:11 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
>
>> > On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100 Martin Brown
>> > <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > That was done in 2008.
>
>> But Brown isnt earning huge after dinner speech fees.
>
>> > There was never going to be a good way to restore interest rates to
>> > something that would allow an economy to function properly, not with
>> > the kind of debt the government had run up.
>
>> Have fun explaining why there is now.
>
>> > Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into
>> > casinos, with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of
>> > forgery, sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be
>> > avoided?
>
>> The US economy is doing fine.
>
>> > Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
>> > exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for
>> > Sunak,
>
>> Don't buy that conspiracy theory.
>
>> > and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.
>
>> There is a real tendency to throw a woman or 'colored' person under the
>> bus when the shit has hit the fan, but that doesnt explain why they
>> chose
>> to politically assassinate Boris.
>
> Boris was a lier.

All politicians are liars. Truss just lied about not
resigning, the day before the stupid cow resigned.

Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> On 20/10/2022 18:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
>> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
>> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
>> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
>> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
>
> She will have to *pay* people to attend her after dinner speeches.
>
> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!

Boris is doing ok and, with Sunak, he is responsible for the huge National
Debt. He also sabotaged BREXIT, followed the crazy net zero policy, and
caused thousands of unnecessary deaths with his Lockdowns.

Truss, in comparison, was just getting started at showing the damage she
could do.

>
> Coffey is even worse - same effect as Mogadon at the Party Conference.

Bumbling Comma Counter Coffey. At least she will be replaced once this
farce is over. That sad, now they’ve shortened the selection process, they
could squeeze in 6 or 7 new leaders / PMs before Xmas.

I hope Truss didn’t decorate the flat….

>
>> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
>> its snout for the trough, please?
>
> Rishi Sunak was robbed for telling the truth. He described in great
> detail exactly if the senile delinquents of the Tory faithful elected a
> swivel eyed loon simpleton like Truss to be Prime Minister.
>

Sunak trashed the economy long before the incompetent Kwarteng. Paying
people not to work and handing millions to companies without even basic
checks was beyond crazy.
Sunak is a typical Socialist, spending other peoples money freely.

Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
> On 20/10/2022 19:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 20/10/2022 18:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
>>> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
>>> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
>>> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
>>> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
>>> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
>>> its snout for the trough, please?
>>
>> Looks like it will be Boris, Mordaunt or Fishi.
>> My bet is that it will be Boris.
>
> The bookies don't agree with you, so you should be able to get good odds.
>
>> Unless the MPS decide that losing their seats and the next election is
>> preferable, which given the flak they are likely to get as the world
>> economic and renewable energy fuck up unrolls, is likely to be
>> considerable.
>
> Boris is the reason that the Conservatives started to be less popular
> than Labour. It all went pear shaped after Partygate. I don't see him
> being the person to reverse the trend.
>

Not to mention his record, he didn’t deliver on a single promise /
commitment - those he claimed to have delivered were fudged, like BREXIT -
which he sabotaged- and the vaccination programme which was one of the
slowest in the developed World in terms of vaccinations / day. European
countries, which were slow to start due to EU incompetence, once they got
vaccine were delivering it to arms at 1m / day. We NEVER achieved that,
even with a head start and it being promised the day the first (also
fudged) milestone was reached.

Boris is a bumbling, dishonest, incompetent- even by the low standards of
MPs, his standards are low.

Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 21:17:11 +0100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:43:05 +0100
>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How I trashed the UK economy is never going to be motivational!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That was done in 2008. There was never going to be a good way to
>> restore interest rates to something that would allow an economy to
>> function properly, not with the kind of debt the government had run up.
>>
>> Zero (for all practical purposes) interest turns economies into casinos,
>> with production forgotten. When unimaginably huge amounts of forgery,
>> sorry, Quantitative Easing, are added, how can a disaster be avoided?
>>
>> Truss was just the proverbial Last Straw, and may have been chosen for
>> exactly that role, though it is more likely that was intended for
>> Sunak, and the wretched Party members threw a spanner into the works.
>>
>> Whose idea was it to present the members with a choice between just
>> those two? OK, the Conservatives (like the other parties) are a bit
>> short of visibly competent MPs, but...Truss?
>
> The Establishment didn't want to risk the members electing a *true*
> Conservative - which they *would* have done, given the chance.
>

The parliamentary party has been taken over by leftie, tree hugging,
Remainers. The Real Conservatives are cowering under a blanket, like the
spineless animals they are.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 17:22:25 +1100, Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:

> Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 20/10/2022 19:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 20/10/2022 18:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
>>>> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
>>>> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office..
>>>> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
>>>> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
>>>> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
>>>> its snout for the trough, please?
>>>
>>> Looks like it will be Boris, Mordaunt or Fishi.
>>> My bet is that it will be Boris.
>>
>> The bookies don't agree with you, so you should be able to get good
>> odds.
>>
>>> Unless the MPS decide that losing their seats and the next election is
>>> preferable, which given the flak they are likely to get as the world
>>> economic and renewable energy fuck up unrolls, is likely to be
>>> considerable.
>>
>> Boris is the reason that the Conservatives started to be less popular
>> than Labour. It all went pear shaped after Partygate. I don't see him
>> being the person to reverse the trend.
>>
>
> Not to mention his record, he didn’t deliver on a single promise /
> commitment

That's a lie. He delivered what the majority voted for in the referendum..

> - those he claimed to have delivered were fudged, like BREXIT which he
> sabotaged- and the vaccination programme which was one of the
> slowest in the developed World in terms of vaccinations / day.

Bullshit.

> European
> countries, which were slow to start due to EU incompetence, once they got
> vaccine were delivering it to arms at 1m / day. We NEVER achieved that,
> even with a head start and it being promised the day the first (also
> fudged) milestone was reached.

> Boris is a bumbling, dishonest, incompetent- even by the low standards of
> MPs, his standards are low.

Leaves that fool Truss for dead.

No, there are two reasons for this, firstly she suffers from stage fright, 2
what can she talk about, as she has done nothing. Do you think she can cook
or renovate houses perhaps?

To be honest, I think I'd resign if I'd put my plan forward and had it
roundly rejected to such a point that it was by the markets. If you have any
decency, you cannot continue if what you believe in is not going to happen.
Brian

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"Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote in message
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> The likes of Boris and Blair are making stupendous sums on the lecture
> circuit these days, so that seems to be the current preferred method
> for rewarding ex-politicians for services rendered whilst in office.
> So Liz Truss becomes the shortest (self)serving prime minister in
> history. If she is able to get splendidly rewarded for speech-making,
> that will pretty much prove it. Will the next candidate kindly present
> its snout for the trough, please?