On 04/04/2022 03:08, Steve Carroll replied to a question posed.
>>> On 2022-04-03, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
[....]
>>>> When you load EtreCheck onto YOUR computer, does it create a JavaScript
>>>> file?
>>>
>>> I don't "load" it and I have no plans to ever do so. The way it's
>>> written, Etrecheck can't do its job *without* JavaScript.
>>
>> Why is that?
>
> Because it's not a native app, it's a hybrid and the way it communicates
> is via 'webkit.messageHandlers.', as shown in the code example that
> started this thread.
>
> His choice was a WebKit view versus what he would have to do in a
> traditional Cocoa app and the former was "relatively easy and
> straightforward" (his words). I think, in part, his choice was also
> based on his being more of a web dev back when he started this project
> (or, at the least, he was doing more web dev back then). He mentioned
> something that I'm not able to check because I've never loaded the app
> but it had to do with "Review" buttons on the "Security" page and how
> they aren't lined up well... the best he could do in a native view, is
> the way he put it.

I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!

Accordingly, I've opened up the discussion here:-

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/when-you-load-etrecheck-onto-your-computer-does-it-create-a-javascript-file.2340558/

I look forward to an interesting discussion.

I have a copy of the JavaScript which I found on my machine if anyone
wishes to review it.

--
David

On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
> On 04/04/2022 03:08, Steve Carroll replied to a question posed.
>>>> On 2022-04-03, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
> [....]
>>>>> When you load EtreCheck onto YOUR computer, does it create a JavaScript
>>>>> file?
>>>>
>>>> I don't "load" it and I have no plans to ever do so. The way it's
>>>> written, Etrecheck can't do its job *without* JavaScript.
>>>
>>> Why is that?
>>
>> Because it's not a native app, it's a hybrid and the way it communicates
>> is via 'webkit.messageHandlers.', as shown in the code example that
>> started this thread.
>>
>> His choice was a WebKit view versus what he would have to do in a
>> traditional Cocoa app and the former was "relatively easy and
>> straightforward" (his words). I think, in part, his choice was also
>> based on his being more of a web dev back when he started this project
>> (or, at the least, he was doing more web dev back then). He mentioned
>> something that I'm not able to check because I've never loaded the app
>> but it had to do with "Review" buttons on the "Security" page and how
>> they aren't lined up well... the best he could do in a native view, is
>> the way he put it.
>
> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!

I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
dev who created this product.

> Accordingly, I've opened up the discussion here:-
>
> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/when-you-load-etrecheck-onto-your-computer-does-it-create-a-javascript-file.2340558/
>
> I look forward to an interesting discussion.

I'm guessing you won't quote what I just wrote above over in that forum,
in fact, "I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!"

> I have a copy of the JavaScript which I found on my machine if anyone
> wishes to review it.

Well, your 'friend' did a little 'review', the gist of it was:

"It looks like it modifies the copy behavior for apps, though, and on
Apple devices." Michael Glasser (aka "Snit")

Then, when I asked him about it, he responded:

"t likely only does that for itself... cannot likely do it for apps that
do not allow it."

I then asked:

-- "How would it work if "apps" did allow it? Strip the users "apps"
(that allowed changing of their code, what app does that?) from his/her
"device", hunt down the project files (which aren't likely readily
available) and alter them WRT to the app's "copy behavior", build them
and finally load them back onto the "device"?

Providing this magical feat could be accomplished, how long do you think
all this would take? And would it all happen again next time the user
ran EtreCheck? More to the point: Providing it could be done, why do
this, what is the legitimate reason for it (IOW, do you think this is
legal)? If there is none, why stop there? If you're going this route,
why not go the 'Full Monte' and just take over all the apps you want in
any/every way you want?

But the granddaddy of them all is: Why is no one talking about an app
that "modifies" other apps?! That file isn't new, in fact, it's one of
his oldest so if he's doing this he's been at it awhile. How would you
explain it? Luck?" --

Notably, Glasser snipped after the first word, "How", replying with:

"By being a part of other apps."

(this is the same guy 'judging' people's 'coding' abilities in ACW)

I'm 'sensing' this won't make it over to that forum, either ;)

On 04/04/2022 15:44, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>> On 04/04/2022 03:08, Steve Carroll replied to a question posed.
>>>>> On 2022-04-03, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>> [....]
>>>>>> When you load EtreCheck onto YOUR computer, does it create a JavaScript
>>>>>> file?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't "load" it and I have no plans to ever do so. The way it's
>>>>> written, Etrecheck can't do its job *without* JavaScript.
>>>>
>>>> Why is that?
>>>
>>> Because it's not a native app, it's a hybrid and the way it communicates
>>> is via 'webkit.messageHandlers.', as shown in the code example that
>>> started this thread.
>>>
>>> His choice was a WebKit view versus what he would have to do in a
>>> traditional Cocoa app and the former was "relatively easy and
>>> straightforward" (his words). I think, in part, his choice was also
>>> based on his being more of a web dev back when he started this project
>>> (or, at the least, he was doing more web dev back then). He mentioned
>>> something that I'm not able to check because I've never loaded the app
>>> but it had to do with "Review" buttons on the "Security" page and how
>>> they aren't lined up well... the best he could do in a native view, is
>>> the way he put it.
>>
>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>
> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
> dev who created this product.

What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth - and would like YOU to help.

>> Accordingly, I've opened up the discussion here:-
>>
>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/when-you-load-etrecheck-onto-your-computer-does-it-create-a-javascript-file.2340558/
>>
>> I look forward to an interesting discussion.
>
> I'm guessing you won't quote what I just wrote above over in that forum,
> in fact, "I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!"

What you wrote above is /exactly/ what I posted on the forum.
It has now been removed. :-(

>> I have a copy of the JavaScript which I found on my machine if anyone
>> wishes to review it.
>
> Well, your 'friend' did a little 'review', the gist of it was:
>
> "It looks like it modifies the copy behavior for apps, though, and on
> Apple devices." Michael Glasser (aka "Snit")
>
> Then, when I asked him about it, he responded:
>
> "t likely only does that for itself... cannot likely do it for apps that
> do not allow it."
>
> I then asked:
>
> -- "How would it work if "apps" did allow it? Strip the users "apps"
> (that allowed changing of their code, what app does that?) from his/her
> "device", hunt down the project files (which aren't likely readily
> available) and alter them WRT to the app's "copy behavior", build them
> and finally load them back onto the "device"?
>
> Providing this magical feat could be accomplished, how long do you think
> all this would take? And would it all happen again next time the user
> ran EtreCheck? More to the point: Providing it could be done, why do
> this, what is the legitimate reason for it (IOW, do you think this is
> legal)? If there is none, why stop there? If you're going this route,
> why not go the 'Full Monte' and just take over all the apps you want in
> any/every way you want?
>
> But the granddaddy of them all is: Why is no one talking about an app
> that "modifies" other apps?! That file isn't new, in fact, it's one of
> his oldest so if he's doing this he's been at it awhile. How would you
> explain it? Luck?" --
>
> Notably, Glasser snipped after the first word, "How", replying with:
>
> "By being a part of other apps."
>
> (this is the same guy 'judging' people's 'coding' abilities in ACW)
>
> I'm 'sensing' this won't make it over to that forum, either ;)

No, it won't - but I have another question!

When I download a file from Etresoft using my Brave browser, it is
delivered as a Zip file and stored in my Downloads folder.

When I download from Etresoft using my Safari browser, in my Downloads
folder is NOT a zip file but an Application called EtreCheckPro.app 27.6MB

It took me a while to realise it, but the Zip file had automatically
found itself into my Trash folder.
https://jumpshare.com/v/qLmHdUY8h1nUNeGOgsCV

Can you (or anyone) explain why this should happen?

TIA

On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:

(snip)

>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>
>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>> dev who created this product.
>
> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth

By ignoring it? How does that work?

> - and would like YOU to help.

I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?

>>> Accordingly, I've opened up the discussion here:-
>>>
>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/when-you-load-etrecheck-onto-your-computer-does-it-create-a-javascript-file.2340558/
>>>
>>> I look forward to an interesting discussion.
>>
>> I'm guessing you won't quote what I just wrote above over in that forum,
>> in fact, "I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!"
>
> What you wrote above is /exactly/ what I posted on the forum.
> It has now been removed. :-(

Aw, why didn't you add the "other" stuff I wrote to it?

(snip)

>> I'm 'sensing' this won't make it over to that forum, either ;)
>
>
> No, it won't

Why not?

> - but I have another question!

I'm shocked ;)

On Apr 4, 2022 at 9:40:41 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t2f729$fi1$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>
>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>> dev who created this product.
>>
>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>
> By ignoring it? How does that work?

Nowhere in his comment does he suggest the way to uncover truth is to ignore
it. This is an example of you speaking FOR him and not listening TO him.

You do that a lot.

>> - and would like YOU to help.
>
> I *did* help...

You might have had bits of help placed in your efforts to create drama, such
as trying (successfully) to pull me into your games so you can get more
attention. But overall you worked to troll.

You did have one post I saw where you did seem to be trying to help -- and I
thanked you for it.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>
>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>> dev who created this product.
>>
>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>
> By ignoring it? How does that work?

A bit like rattling a cage.

>> - and would like YOU to help.
>
> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?

Baby-step instructions.

>>>> Accordingly, I've opened up the discussion here:-
>>>>
>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/when-you-load-etrecheck-onto-your-computer-does-it-create-a-javascript-file.2340558/
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to an interesting discussion.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing you won't quote what I just wrote above over in that forum,
>>> in fact, "I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!"
>>
>> What you wrote above is /exactly/ what I posted on the forum.
>> It has now been removed. :-(
>
> Aw, why didn't you add the "other" stuff I wrote to it?

Simply because my post had been removed.

> (snip)
>
>>> I'm 'sensing' this won't make it over to that forum, either ;)
>>
>>
>> No, it won't
>
> Why not?

The post has been removed.

>
>> - but I have another question!
>
> I'm shocked ;)

I determined the reason. Simple - when you know!

As far as I'm aware it's the first time I've noticed this in all the
time I've used a Mac.

On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:

> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>
>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>
>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>
>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>
> A bit like rattling a cage.
>
>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>
>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>
> Baby-step instructions.

Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
others can have different areas of knowledge. I am not a coder and a self
described "shitty scripter" and yet he says he speaks to me about coding just
to try to humiliate me over the fact I am not a coder. It would be like
talking to him about being a teacher and noting he has no skills in the area.
Oh. Wait. He pretends he does. :)

He has knowledge in many areas, but the places he does not he tends to be a
walking Dunning–Kruger chart.

>
>>>>> Accordingly, I've opened up the discussion here:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/when-you-load-etrecheck-onto-your-computer-does-it-create-a-javascript-file.2340558/
>>>>>
>>>>> I look forward to an interesting discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I'm guessing you won't quote what I just wrote above over in that forum,
>>>> in fact, "I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!"
>>>
>>> What you wrote above is /exactly/ what I posted on the forum.
>>> It has now been removed. :-(
>>
>> Aw, why didn't you add the "other" stuff I wrote to it?
>
> Simply because my post had been removed.
>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>> I'm 'sensing' this won't make it over to that forum, either ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> No, it won't
>>
>> Why not?
>
> The post has been removed.
>
>>
>>> - but I have another question!
>>
>> I'm shocked ;)
>
> I determined the reason. Simple - when you know!
>
> As far as I'm aware it's the first time I've noticed this in all the
> time I've used a Mac.
>
>
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2022 at 9:40:41 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t2f729$fi1$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>
>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>
>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>
>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>
> Nowhere in his comment does he suggest the way to uncover truth is to ignore
> it.

Why are you making that irrelevant statement? Do you believe it will
hide the fact that he's not remotely interested in the truth? It
doesn't.

>> I *did* help...
>
> You might have had bits of help

How would YOU know, Mr. 'I do not know JavaScript'?

"He knows I do not know JavaScript."

You write stuff like that when it suits you, then, when needed, you're
miraculously able to make 'assessments' (that often make no sense). How
does this work?

On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:37:59 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t2fdu7$42s$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 9:40:41 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t2f729$fi1$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>
>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>
>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>
>> Nowhere in his comment does he suggest the way to uncover truth is to ignore
>> it.
>
> Why

Because it was not his intent or meaning. It was a fabrication of your own
making. You lied to push your drama and trolling.

> are you making that irrelevant statement? Do you believe it will
> hide the fact that he's not remotely interested in the truth? It
> doesn't.
>
>>> I *did* help...
>>
>> You might have had bits of help
>
> How would YOU know,

I read your comments.

Seriously, why do you play these stupid games?

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>
>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>
>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>
>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>
> A bit like rattling a cage.

Annoying people after they've given you the info you're actually after
is pretty silly, isn't it? You began the other thread by asking a
question you didn't really want answered. Then you 'rattled cages'. Why
should anyone ever follow your BS? Work to make it less obvious <shrug>.

On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
><A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:
>
>
>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>
>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>
>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>
>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>
>>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>>
>>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>>
>> Baby-step instructions.
>
> Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
> others can have different areas of knowledge.

I know for a fact that he could've run the HTML example I gave him and
it would have shown him, first hand, why what he's pretending to be so
worried about wasn't anything to worry about. Stop lying, you suck at
it, troll.

On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:46:10 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t2fedi$42s$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:
>>
>>
>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>
>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>
>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>>
>>>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>>>
>>>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>>>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>>>
>>> Baby-step instructions.
>>
>> Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
>> others can have different areas of knowledge.
>
> I know for a fact that he could've run the HTML example

No, you do not. You THINK he could have based on your knowledge and
experience, not his. But more than that, you think he should be jumping
through hoops instead of you just answering a question. You play games instead
of just talking tech. Then you pretend your tech games are the same. They are
not. You show no sign of self awareness.

> I gave him and
> it would have shown him, first hand, why what he's pretending to be so
> worried about wasn't anything to worry about. Stop lying, you suck at
> it, troll.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:43:14 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t2fe82$42s$5@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> --------------hPGBiKiJm6N0YXDy4fOvy2YV
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>
>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>
>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>
>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>
>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>
> Annoying people after they've given you the info you're actually after
> is pretty silly, isn't it?

You think people owe you for your pushing of games and drama. It is a part of
your entitlement worldview.

> You began the other thread by asking a
> question you didn't really want answered.

He never said that. If you answered the question it was buried in your
nonsense about giving him assignments and speaking for him.

> Then you 'rattled cages'. Why
> should anyone ever follow your BS? Work to make it less obvious <shrug>.

You play games and when you are called out you play victim.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

(snip goofy pretense at mind reading)

>>>> I *did* help...
>>>
>>> You might have had bits of help
>>
>> How would YOU know,
>
> I read your comments.

Exactly, YOU read them and they're about a topic you "do not know". Now
answer why you would "know" what you stated you "do not know". How does
that work?

(snip more projection)

On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:43:14 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t2fe82$42s$5@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>> --------------hPGBiKiJm6N0YXDy4fOvy2YV
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>
>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>
>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>
>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>
>> Annoying people after they've given you the info you're actually after
>> is pretty silly, isn't it?
>
> You think people owe you

You have it backwards, he's the one who asked me for help (and you
but that proved to be a monumental failure). Sober up.

(snip projection)

>> You began the other thread by asking a
>> question you didn't really want answered.
>
> He never said that.

He proved it to anyone who understands the topic, you know, the one you
stated that you "do not know" so you have no business in talking about
it. Yeah, that topic. He ignored what undermined his trolling, IOW, he
knew what was going on without even loading that HTML/JS. He may not
have understood every detail but he certainly got the point about it not
being able to run without first loading jQuery. Why are YOU talking
about this again?

On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:46:10 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t2fedi$42s$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>>
>>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>>
>>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>>>
>>>>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>>>>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>>>>
>>>> Baby-step instructions.
>>>
>>> Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
>>> others can have different areas of knowledge.
>>
>> I know for a fact that he could've run the HTML example
>
> No, you do not.

Of course I do, I've given him examples of it and he's done so.

Stop lying... and sober up.

On 04/04/2022 19:49, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:46:10 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
> <t2fedi$42s$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>>
>>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>>
>>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>>>
>>>>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>>>>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>>>>
>>>> Baby-step instructions.
>>>
>>> Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
>>> others can have different areas of knowledge.
>>
>> I know for a fact that he could've run the HTML example
>
> No, you do not. You THINK he could have based on your knowledge and
> experience, not his. But more than that, you think he should be jumping
> through hoops instead of you just answering a question. You play games instead
> of just talking tech. Then you pretend your tech games are the same. They are
> not. You show no sign of self awareness.

IAWTP

On 04/04/2022 19:43, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> --------------hPGBiKiJm6N0YXDy4fOvy2YV
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>
>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>
>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>
>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>
>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>
> Annoying people after they've given you the info you're actually after
> is pretty silly, isn't it? You began the other thread by asking a
> question you didn't really want answered. Then you 'rattled cages'. Why
> should anyone ever follow your BS? Work to make it less obvious <shrug>.

I take these things very seriously. It's not a game.

https://jumpshare.com/v/WT3YiIJ24vE8nmkaJcS2

On 04/04/2022 19:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:
>>
>>
>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>
>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>
>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>>
>>>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>>>
>>>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>>>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>>>
>>> Baby-step instructions.
>>
>> Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
>> others can have different areas of knowledge.
>
> I know for a fact that he could've run the HTML example I gave him and
> it would have shown him, first hand, why what he's pretending to be so
> worried about wasn't anything to worry about. Stop lying, you suck at
> it, troll.

If there really is "nothing to worry about", state the reason(s) for you
failing to run EtreCheck.

On 04/04/2022 19:49, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:46:10 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
> <t2fedi$42s$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>>
>>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>>
>>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>>>
>>>>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>>>>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>>>>
>>>> Baby-step instructions.
>>>
>>> Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
>>> others can have different areas of knowledge.
>>
>> I know for a fact that he could've run the HTML example
>
> No, you do not. You THINK he could have based on your knowledge and
> experience, not his. But more than that, you think he should be jumping
> through hoops instead of you just answering a question. You play games instead
> of just talking tech. Then you pretend your tech games are the same. They are
> not. You show no sign of self awareness.

You are 'spot on', Snit. You help me, and I much appreciate that. :-)

I'm not playing games. https://jumpshare.com/v/WT3YiIJ24vE8nmkaJcS2

On 04/04/2022 19:50, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:43:14 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
> <t2fe82$42s$5@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>> --------------hPGBiKiJm6N0YXDy4fOvy2YV
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>
>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>
>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>
>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>
>> Annoying people after they've given you the info you're actually after
>> is pretty silly, isn't it?
>
> You think people owe you for your pushing of games and drama. It is a part of
> your entitlement worldview.
>
>> You began the other thread by asking a
>> question you didn't really want answered.
>
> He never said that. If you answered the question it was buried in your
> nonsense about giving him assignments and speaking for him.
>
>> Then you 'rattled cages'. Why
>> should anyone ever follow your BS? Work to make it less obvious <shrug>.
>
> You play games and when you are called out you play victim.

IAWTP

All true.

On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
> On 04/04/2022 19:49, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 11:46:10 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t2fedi$42s$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>>>
>>>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>>>>>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Baby-step instructions.
>>>>
>>>> Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
>>>> others can have different areas of knowledge.
>>>
>>> I know for a fact that he could've run the HTML example
>>
>> No, you do not. You THINK he could have based on your knowledge and
>> experience, not his. But more than that, you think he should be jumping
>> through hoops instead of you just answering a question. You play games instead
>> of just talking tech. Then you pretend your tech games are the same. They are
>> not. You show no sign of self awareness.
>
> IAWTP

LOL! Drugs and alcohol, folks... beware!

On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
> On 04/04/2022 19:43, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>> --------------hPGBiKiJm6N0YXDy4fOvy2YV
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>
>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>
>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>
>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>
>> Annoying people after they've given you the info you're actually after
>> is pretty silly, isn't it? You began the other thread by asking a
>> question you didn't really want answered. Then you 'rattled cages'. Why
>> should anyone ever follow your BS? Work to make it less obvious <shrug>.
>
>
> I take these things very seriously. It's not a game.

Your problem is no one who is actually knowledgable believes you take it
seriously due to how your conduct yourself along the way and you put it
there.

On 04/04/2022 20:52, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>> On 04/04/2022 19:43, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>>> --------------hPGBiKiJm6N0YXDy4fOvy2YV
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>>
>>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>>
>>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>>
>>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>>
>>> Annoying people after they've given you the info you're actually after
>>> is pretty silly, isn't it? You began the other thread by asking a
>>> question you didn't really want answered. Then you 'rattled cages'. Why
>>> should anyone ever follow your BS? Work to make it less obvious <shrug>.
>>
>>
>> I take these things very seriously. It's not a game.
>
> Your problem is no one who is actually knowledgable believes you take it
> seriously due to how your conduct yourself along the way and you put it
> there.

Have you been drinking?

That doesn't make sense.

On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
> On 04/04/2022 19:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On 2022-04-04, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 4, 2022 at 10:38:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <A2G2K.11698$4c1.9375@fx13.ams1>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 04/04/2022 17:40, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-04-04, David Brooks <david@blocknews.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm really curious as to why you haven't 'used' EtreCheck on your
>>>>>>>> personal Apple computer. I sense you are afraid of what it 'might' do!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I 'sense' you're trying to cause more trouble by continuing to stalk the
>>>>>>> dev who created this product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm TRYING to do is uncover the truth
>>>>>
>>>>> By ignoring it? How does that work?
>>>>
>>>> A bit like rattling a cage.
>>>>
>>>>>> - and would like YOU to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I *did* help... and you're still ignoring it but it's worse than that...
>>>>> anyone who has bothered to look has seen you ignore it. So now what?
>>>>
>>>> Baby-step instructions.
>>>
>>> Carroll has a lot of tech knowledge but he shows no sign of understanding how
>>> others can have different areas of knowledge.
>>
>> I know for a fact that he could've run the HTML example I gave him and
>> it would have shown him, first hand, why what he's pretending to be so
>> worried about wasn't anything to worry about. Stop lying, you suck at
>> it, troll.
>
>
> If there really is "nothing to worry about", state the reason(s) for you
> failing to run EtreCheck.

First off, you didn't demny it so, according to the 'logic' your
'friend' uses, I must be telling the truth above, right? That aside...

Why would I entertain your faulty logic? I have no need for Etrecheck, I
use the terminal for things of that nature that I'm interested in. BTW,
your question has shifted again, you realize that, right? Isn't this
supposed to be a "Question "about JavaScript"? So why aren't you talking
"about JavaScript"? Did you think no one would notice what you're doing?
Do you think your 'friend' will agree with me on this point being that
he states things like:

"I do not focus on personalities - I focus on the content of your posts" - Snit

and

"I encourage people to act as I do" - Snit

"I am, of course, honest and honorable... something which some people
appreciate but others fear.  And loath" - Snit
Were he as "honest and honorable" as he's tried to sell himself, it's
only logical to assume that he should be along 'any minute now' to
"encourage" one of his 'friends' to "act as" he does, right? Maybe he
doesn't have enough energy left over after his 'pile on' attempts ;)