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* Is the word "retard' a derogatory termSusan Cohen
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+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRichard Heathfield
|`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
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| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRichard Heathfield
|  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
|   `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termchop
+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
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||||||| |`- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
||||||| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termVir Campestris
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|||||||  `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
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|||| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
||||  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
||||   `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
|||`- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
||`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
|| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
||  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
||   `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
||    `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
||     `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
|+* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! LOLSusan Cohen
||`* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! LOLThe Natural Philosopher
|| +- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! LOLKen Blake
|| +* Re: Troll-feeding Senile NATURAL IDIOT Alert!Susan Cohen
|| |+- Re: Troll-feeding Senile NATURAL IDIOT Alert!Richard Heathfield
|| |`- Re: Troll-feeding Senile NATURAL IDIOT Alert!Ken Blake
|| `- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! LOLBob Martin
|`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termDan Green
| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|  +* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termSusan Cohen
|  |`- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termjim.gm4dhj
|  `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termJim Stewart ...
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|`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
| +* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
| |`- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termFredxx
| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCustos Custodum
|  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
|   +- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
|   `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCustos Custodum
|    +* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|    |+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRod Speed
|    ||`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|    || `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRod Speed
|    ||  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|    ||   `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRod Speed
|    ||    `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|    |`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
|    +- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
|    `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termJohn J
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termScott
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termFredxx
+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termBrian Gaff
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termJNugent
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From: tnp...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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Subject: Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory term
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:47 UTC

On 02/01/2023 14:27, Max Demian wrote:
> On 01/01/2023 19:08, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 04:45:06 +1100, Max Demian
>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>> On 30/12/2022 16:00, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 23:59:36 +1100, Max Demian
>>>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 29/12/2022 20:06, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 04:50:57 +1100, Max Demian
>>>>>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> When I was a child I had a gollywog
>>>
>>>>>>  Me too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but didn't realise it was supposed to be a black person as it
>>>>>>> didn't look like any black person I had seen in real life
>>>>>>  I hadn't actually seen one in real life until I was a teenager.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not even an abo?
>>>>  Yeah, it was the abos I was talking about. I never saw one
>>>> until I was a teenager. They aren't that common here, only
>>>> 3% nation wide and they are mostly quite concentrated.
>>>>  And their coloring is recessive, so many of them aren't obvious
>>>> to look at when they are mongrels. My back neighbour who was
>>>> one said that many asked him if he was Italian. We have a very
>>>> high level of Italian immigrants in my town.
>>
>>> Have you seen the film "Walkabout"?
>>
>> Nope, never watch stuff like that.
>>
>>> There's a group of aboriginals with an obviously white fair haired girl.
>>
>> And white boy. You never get any abos anything like that
>> anywhere near sydney, or even anywhere in NSW either.
>> It was filmed in the Northern Territory, thousands of
>> miles from Sydney.
>
> So you have seen it. The white boy is the brother of the Jenny Agutter
> character. I mean an obviously white girl with the group of abos. I
> suppose she could have been the child of one of the film team, but it
> does look odd.
>
My nieces daughter by her first (Iranian) husband, is exceptionally dark
and in Cape Town where she lives, would be considered 'coloured' ...

Makes Meghan Markle look like Little Miss Ku Klux Klan...

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 17:04 UTC

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 18:23:01 +0000, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>On 24/12/2022 15:03, Dan Green wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>>> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>>> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>>> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>>> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>>>
>>> There are no proscribed words in the English language. There *are*
>>> words, however, which Lefties have tried to proscribe and "retard" is
>>> one of them. The word sprung into mass usage during the Premiership of
>>> Labour's Gordon Brown - for very good reasons.
>>
>> Not true. Brown was labled a "mong-retard" (mongloid-retard) in
>> reference to his facial resembence to a sufferer of Down's Syndrome
>> (in addition to his obvious cognitive deficits.)
>> HTH.
>
>This song could have been written for him:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_mIvrycvaw

RS Thomas wrote a poem mentioning him too:

There was Dai Puw. He was no good.
They put him in the fields to dock swedes,
And took the knife from him, when he came home
At late evening with a grin
Like the slash of a knife on his face.

There was Gordon Brown, and he was no good.
Every evening after the ploughing
With the big tractor he would sit in his chair,
And stare into the tangled fire garden,
Opening his slow lips like a snail.

There was Huw Puw, too. What shall I say?
I have heard him whistling in the hedges
On and on, as though winter
Would never again leave those fields,
And all the trees were deformed.

And lastly there was the girl;
Beauty under some spell of the beast.
Her pale face was the lantern
By which they read in life’s dark book
The shrill sentence: God is love.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 22:36 UTC

On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 01:27:12 +1100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

> On 01/01/2023 19:08, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 04:45:06 +1100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 30/12/2022 16:00, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 23:59:36 +1100, Max Demian
>>>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 29/12/2022 20:06, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 04:50:57 +1100, Max Demian
>>>>>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> When I was a child I had a gollywog
>>>
>>>>>> Me too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but didn't realise it was supposed to be a black person as it
>>>>>>> didn't look like any black person I had seen in real life
>>>>>> I hadn't actually seen one in real life until I was a teenager.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not even an abo?
>>>> Yeah, it was the abos I was talking about. I never saw one
>>>> until I was a teenager. They aren't that common here, only
>>>> 3% nation wide and they are mostly quite concentrated.
>>>> And their coloring is recessive, so many of them aren't obvious
>>>> to look at when they are mongrels. My back neighbour who was
>>>> one said that many asked him if he was Italian. We have a very
>>>> high level of Italian immigrants in my town.
>>
>>> Have you seen the film "Walkabout"?
>> Nope, never watch stuff like that.
>>
>>> There's a group of aboriginals with an obviously white fair haired
>>> girl.
>> And white boy. You never get any abos anything like that
>> anywhere near sydney, or even anywhere in NSW either.
>> It was filmed in the Northern Territory, thousands of
>> miles from Sydney.

> So you have seen it.

No, just checked the imdb and wikipedia articles

> The white boy is the brother of the Jenny Agutter character. I mean an
> obviously white girl with the group of abos. I suppose she could have
> been the child of one of the film team, but it does look odd.

Its actually the boy who is the son of the director.


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