On 9/12/2021 7:16 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:35:34 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/2021 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>>> He had contacts there.
>>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>>
>>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one that
>>> was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you would want
>>> and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>>
>> His story is a load of trolling bullshit. As if Holden would let people
>> just waltz into the foundry and go through all their parts to help
>> themselves to whatever bits they liked.
>>
>> This idiot thinks people are as stupid as he is.....
>
> Yawnnnnn, being stooopid is like being dead; it's someone else's
> problem.
> The bosses & foremen used to drink at my old uncle's pub and no doubt
> that was a factor.

Of course it was :)

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On 9/12/21 7:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:51:33 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/21 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>>> He had contacts there.
>>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>>
>>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one that
>>> was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you would want
>>> and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>>> The fact that anyone felt the need to search for a "flawless engine
>>> block" shows how inconsistent quality most engines were, what's worse is
>>> that the car makers knew they were making junk and they didn't care.
>>
> I've heard statisticians were involved in manufacturing decisions,
> just like the Yanks taught the Japanese car makers.

LOL, its rather obvious that the Yanks didn't teach the Japanese how to
make cars, more likely the other way around.
Some early Japanese cars were copies of British cars which they very
significantly improved.

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On 9/12/2021 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:38:34 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/2021 5:22 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:11:19 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
>>
>>>> Can't do it and don't need to, tooling, measurement, quality control and
>>>> the materials used in engines is vastly superior to anything made in the
>>>> "olden days", engine quality is much more consistent.
>>>
>>> No doubt due to computers, robots and machine tools.
>>
>> Hate to burst your delusional bubble here pal, but even back in the
>> early 1960's when the Holden Red Motor first emerged the manufacturing
>> process was pretty automated. There wasn't a whole lot of hand operation
>> going on, and the tolerances didn't vary much.
>
> It was the 1950s, and I don't know the engine colour.

Clearly you don't know too much about anything.

> Please drag your knuckles outta here!

My knuckles are fine thanks Max, but your bullshit is dead in the water.

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On 8/12/2021 11:09 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 8/12/21 9:35 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 8/12/2021 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>>> He had contacts there.
>>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>>
>>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one
>>> that was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you
>>> would want and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>>
>> His story is a load of trolling bullshit. As if Holden would let
>> people just waltz into the foundry and go through all their parts to
>> help themselves to whatever bits they liked.
>>
>> This idiot thinks people are as stupid as he is.....
>>
>>
>
> Not impossible but the "had contacts there" would have to be very senior
> management so not very likely.
> Back in the day at Ford the factory race team people might have been
> able to "select" their own parts and I have heard stories with no way of
> confirming them of senior management getting directly involved if they
> wanted something special but very unlikely that an outsider could have
> access.

Yeah, but that was authorised. There's copies of the "secret"
documentation getting around showing that it happened. Ford supporting
their "factory" race team is just a little different than some knob
walking into Fisherman's Bend and taking his pick of the stock because
he has an occasional beer with some bloke down at the pub :)

Max needs to ask Clasener for an FLC application form....

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Noddy.

On Wed, 08 Dec 2021 12:48:33 +1100, Peter Jason posted:-

> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
> He had contacts there.
> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
> Then from the bins pick out parts, pistons camshafts, con rods etc and
> with the micrometers, calipers and such get as close a fit for all
> parts to fit into the block.
> The result gave an engine more tolerant to abuse and thrashing, though
> he blew them all up eventually.
> Can't do that these days, I suppose.
>

Did he pay for the bits and pieces?

On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:23:39 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 9/12/2021 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:38:34 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/12/2021 5:22 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:11:19 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
>>>
>>>>> Can't do it and don't need to, tooling, measurement, quality control and
>>>>> the materials used in engines is vastly superior to anything made in the
>>>>> "olden days", engine quality is much more consistent.
>>>>
>>>> No doubt due to computers, robots and machine tools.
>>>
>>> Hate to burst your delusional bubble here pal, but even back in the
>>> early 1960's when the Holden Red Motor first emerged the manufacturing
>>> process was pretty automated. There wasn't a whole lot of hand operation
>>> going on, and the tolerances didn't vary much.
>>
>> It was the 1950s, and I don't know the engine colour.
>
> Clearly you don't know too much about anything.
>
>> Please drag your knuckles outta here!
>
> My knuckles are fine thanks Max, but your bullshit is dead in the water.

Oh, so you've got something in common with him then Fraudster...

alvey

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On 9/12/21 9:23 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/12/2021 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:38:34 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/12/2021 5:22 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:11:19 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
>>>
>>>>> Can't do it and don't need to, tooling, measurement, quality
>>>>> control and
>>>>> the materials used in engines is vastly superior to anything made
>>>>> in the
>>>>> "olden days", engine quality is much more consistent.
>>>>
>>>> No doubt due to computers, robots and machine tools.
>>>
>>> Hate to burst your delusional bubble here pal, but even back in the
>>> early 1960's when the Holden Red Motor first emerged the manufacturing
>>> process was pretty automated. There wasn't a whole lot of hand operation
>>> going on, and the tolerances didn't vary much.
>>
>> It was the 1950s, and I don't know the engine colour.
>
> Clearly you don't know too much about anything.
>
>> Please drag your knuckles outta here!
>
> My knuckles are fine thanks Max, but your bullshit is dead in the water.
>
> Oh the irony, Darren telling someone else their bullshit is dead in the
water. How about *yours* Darren, all 20+ years of it? For sure, all your
bullshit claims to trade qualifications, automotive business ownership
and trade relevance are totally dead in the water.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:22:19 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 9/12/2021 7:16 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:35:34 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/12/2021 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>>>> He had contacts there.
>>>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>>>
>>>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one that
>>>> was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you would want
>>>> and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>>>
>>> His story is a load of trolling bullshit. As if Holden would let people
>>> just waltz into the foundry and go through all their parts to help
>>> themselves to whatever bits they liked.
>>>
>>> This idiot thinks people are as stupid as he is.....
>>
>> Yawnnnnn, being stooopid is like being dead; it's someone else's
>> problem.
>> The bosses & foremen used to drink at my old uncle's pub and no doubt
>> that was a factor.
>
> Of course it was :)

Remind him of your repeated claim how the Richmond coppers used to hit the
after hours piss at Chateau Gibbens in Slum St Richmond all the time. I'm
certain that'll leave an impression.

alvey

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On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:22:55 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
wrote:

>On 9/12/21 7:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:51:33 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/12/21 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>>>> He had contacts there.
>>>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>>>
>>>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one that
>>>> was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you would want
>>>> and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>>>> The fact that anyone felt the need to search for a "flawless engine
>>>> block" shows how inconsistent quality most engines were, what's worse is
>>>> that the car makers knew they were making junk and they didn't care.
>>>
>> I've heard statisticians were involved in manufacturing decisions,
>> just like the Yanks taught the Japanese car makers.
>
>LOL, its rather obvious that the Yanks didn't teach the Japanese how to
>make cars, more likely the other way around.
>Some early Japanese cars were copies of British cars which they very
>significantly improved.
I was thinking of the 1960s when the Mazdas had a good reputation.
Someone I know won one in a raffle and it lasted for yonks.

On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:28:29 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:

>On 8/12/2021 11:09 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 9:35 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 8/12/2021 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>>>> He had contacts there.
>>>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>>>
>>>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one
>>>> that was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you
>>>> would want and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>>>
>>> His story is a load of trolling bullshit. As if Holden would let
>>> people just waltz into the foundry and go through all their parts to
>>> help themselves to whatever bits they liked.
>>>
>>> This idiot thinks people are as stupid as he is.....
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not impossible but the "had contacts there" would have to be very senior
>> management so not very likely.
>> Back in the day at Ford the factory race team people might have been
>> able to "select" their own parts and I have heard stories with no way of
>> confirming them of senior management getting directly involved if they
>> wanted something special but very unlikely that an outsider could have
>> access.
>
>Yeah, but that was authorised. There's copies of the "secret"
>documentation getting around showing that it happened. Ford supporting
>their "factory" race team is just a little different than some knob
>walking into Fisherman's Bend and taking his pick of the stock because
>he has an occasional beer with some bloke down at the pub :)

* snort * yet this is what happened!
>
>Max needs to ask Clasener for an FLC application form....
>
>
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:17:25 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:22:19 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 9/12/2021 7:16 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:35:34 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/12/2021 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>>>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>>>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>>>>> He had contacts there.
>>>>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>>>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>>>>
>>>>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one that
>>>>> was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you would want
>>>>> and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>>>>
>>>> His story is a load of trolling bullshit. As if Holden would let people
>>>> just waltz into the foundry and go through all their parts to help
>>>> themselves to whatever bits they liked.
>>>>
>>>> This idiot thinks people are as stupid as he is.....
>>>
>>> Yawnnnnn, being stooopid is like being dead; it's someone else's
>>> problem.
>>> The bosses & foremen used to drink at my old uncle's pub and no doubt
>>> that was a factor.
>>
>> Of course it was :)
>
>Remind him of your repeated claim how the Richmond coppers used to hit the
>after hours piss at Chateau Gibbens in Slum St Richmond all the time. I'm
>certain that'll leave an impression.
>
>
>alvey

Exactly. The coppers at my uncles were all in uniform after hours. No
one gave a rat's.

On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:37:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie
<nocommieshere@bluemountains.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Dec 2021 12:48:33 +1100, Peter Jason posted:-
>
>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>> He had contacts there.
>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>> Then from the bins pick out parts, pistons camshafts, con rods etc and
>> with the micrometers, calipers and such get as close a fit for all
>> parts to fit into the block.
>> The result gave an engine more tolerant to abuse and thrashing, though
>> he blew them all up eventually.
>> Can't do that these days, I suppose.
>>
>

>Did he pay for the bits and pieces?

I don't know. Perhaps they were awarded free beers, after hours, as
a consideration.

On 8/12/2021 2:22 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:11:19 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>> He had contacts there.
>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>
>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one that
>> was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you would want
>> and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>> The fact that anyone felt the need to search for a "flawless engine
>> block" shows how inconsistent quality most engines were, what's worse is
>> that the car makers knew they were making junk and they didn't care.
>
> Quite so. Yet optimal selecting and fitting all the parts had to be
> an improvement.
> ...and then there's the "reconditioned" engine made up of sundry bits.
>>
>>> Then from the bins pick out parts, pistons camshafts, con rods etc and
>>> with the micrometers, calipers and such get as close a fit for all
>>> parts to fit into the block.
>>> The result gave an engine more tolerant to abuse and thrashing, though
>>> he blew them all up eventually.
>>> Can't do that these days, I suppose.
>>
>> Can't do it and don't need to, tooling, measurement, quality control and
>> the materials used in engines is vastly superior to anything made in the
>> "olden days", engine quality is much more consistent.
>
> No doubt due to computers, robots and machine tools.
>

Modern production techniques and those date back to the 48-215 as seen here.

https://youtu.be/dnyxTSvH6Uw?t=93

On 9/12/2021 11:00 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:37:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie

>> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>
> I don't know. Perhaps they were awarded free beers, after hours, as
> a consideration.

Perhaps your "uncle" was just pulling your chain. You seem to be easily
amused and all.....

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On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 13:06:00 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:

>On 9/12/2021 11:00 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:37:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>
>>> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>>
>> I don't know. Perhaps they were awarded free beers, after hours, as
>> a consideration.
>
>Perhaps your "uncle" was just pulling your chain. You seem to be easily
>amused and all.....

What appalling negativism! It's all God's holy sweet truth.

On 9/12/2021 10:44 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 13:06:00 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/12/2021 11:00 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:37:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>>
>>>> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>>>
>>> I don't know. Perhaps they were awarded free beers, after hours, as
>>> a consideration.
>>
>> Perhaps your "uncle" was just pulling your chain. You seem to be easily
>> amused and all.....
>
> What appalling negativism! It's all God's holy sweet truth.
>

:-)

He doesn't like truth, it always gets in the way of his lies.

On 9/12/21 1:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/12/2021 11:00 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:37:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>
>>> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>>
>> I don't know.   Perhaps they were awarded free beers, after hours, as
>> a consideration.
>
> Perhaps your "uncle" was just pulling your chain. You seem to be easily
> amused and all.....
>
>
Perhaps you are pulling on something? Much more likely given the
bullshit you've spewed in here over 20+ years.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Mountain Magpie wrote:
>
> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>

like the Johnny Cash song "One piece at a time", where he worked in the
GM factory?

On 9/12/2021 6:28 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 11:09 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 9:35 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 8/12/2021 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
>>>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
>>>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
>>>>> He had contacts there.
>>>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
>>>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
>>>>
>>>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one
>>>> that was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you
>>>> would want and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
>>>
>>> His story is a load of trolling bullshit. As if Holden would let
>>> people just waltz into the foundry and go through all their parts to
>>> help themselves to whatever bits they liked.
>>>
>>> This idiot thinks people are as stupid as he is.....
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not impossible but the "had contacts there" would have to be very
>> senior management so not very likely.
>> Back in the day at Ford the factory race team people might have been
>> able to "select" their own parts and I have heard stories with no way
>> of confirming them of senior management getting directly involved if
>> they wanted something special but very unlikely that an outsider could
>> have access.
>
> Yeah, but that was authorised. There's copies of the "secret"
> documentation getting around showing that it happened.

There was nothing secret about when the IBM PC was released and plenty
of documented history to prove it, yet you claim to have had one before
anyone else in the world took delivery and rejected that evidence
wholesale like the fruitcake that you are.

Ford supporting
> their "factory" race team is just a little different than some knob
> walking into Fisherman's Bend and taking his pick of the stock because
> he has an occasional beer with some bloke down at the pub :)
>

You weren't there so can't know what happened.

> Max needs to ask Clasener for an FLC application form....
>
>

On 9/12/2021 1:44 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 13:06:00 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/12/2021 11:00 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:37:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>>
>>>> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>>>
>>> I don't know. Perhaps they were awarded free beers, after hours, as
>>> a consideration.
>>
>> Perhaps your "uncle" was just pulling your chain. You seem to be easily
>> amused and all.....
>
> What appalling negativism! It's all God's holy sweet truth.

Yeah, of course it is. As long as you believe it, as no one else does.

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On 9/12/21 9:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/12/2021 1:44 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 13:06:00 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/12/2021 11:00 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:37:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>>>
>>>>> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know.   Perhaps they were awarded free beers, after hours, as
>>>> a consideration.
>>>
>>> Perhaps your "uncle" was just pulling your chain. You seem to be easily
>>> amused and all.....
>>
>> What appalling negativism!  It's all God's holy sweet truth.
>
> Yeah, of course it is. As long as you believe it, as no one else does.
>

Yeah Darren, no one believes your claims any more. What's more, none of
the FLCJC backs you up on *any* of your claims. Hell, Daryl has often
been in your shed and never ever saw your trade papers sitting, as you
claimed, *on your desk*. You might believe your bullshit claims Darren
but narcissism acts like that - blinds you to your reality. Belay that,
*insanity* is what blinds you to your reality. Absolutely zero insight
into your own real world situation.

So, in summary, I think I am safe stating that *no one* believes your
claims Darren.

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On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 09:28:34 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 11:09 pm, Daryl wrote:
> > On 8/12/21 9:35 pm, Noddy wrote:
> >> On 8/12/2021 5:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
> >>> On 8/12/21 12:48 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> >>>> In the 1950s my uncle now long dead and gone to his deserts would
> >>>> build his own holden engine with parts directly from General Motors in
> >>>> Fisherman's Bend Melbourne.
> >>>> He had contacts there.
> >>>> He and some friends would front up with an armful of measuring
> >>>> instruments and select an flawless engine block from the stack.
> >>>
> >>> A Holden "flawless engine block" sounds like a fantasy, finding one
> >>> that was as close to blueprint spec as possible would be what you
> >>> would want and that would most likely happen when the tooling was new.
> >>
> >> His story is a load of trolling bullshit. As if Holden would let
> >> people just waltz into the foundry and go through all their parts to
> >> help themselves to whatever bits they liked.
> >>
> >> This idiot thinks people are as stupid as he is.....
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Not impossible but the "had contacts there" would have to be very senior
> > management so not very likely.
> > Back in the day at Ford the factory race team people might have been
> > able to "select" their own parts and I have heard stories with no way of
> > confirming them of senior management getting directly involved if they
> > wanted something special but very unlikely that an outsider could have
> > access.
> Yeah, but that was authorised. There's copies of the "secret"
> documentation getting around showing that it happened. Ford supporting
> their "factory" race team is just a little different than some knob
> walking into Fisherman's Bend and taking his pick of the stock because
> he has an occasional beer with some bloke down at the pub :)
>
> Max needs to ask Clasener for an FLC application form....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No point, max is over qualified....
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> Noddy.

On 9/12/2021 6:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/12/2021 1:44 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 13:06:00 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/12/2021 11:00 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 22:37:57 -0000, Mountain Magpie
>>>
>>>>> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know.   Perhaps they were awarded free beers, after hours, as
>>>> a consideration.
>>>
>>> Perhaps your "uncle" was just pulling your chain. You seem to be easily
>>> amused and all.....
>>
>> What appalling negativism!  It's all God's holy sweet truth.
>
> Yeah, of course it is. As long as you believe it, as no one else does.
>
>
>

Who made you spokesman for everyone, Sheriff? You're just a lying fraud
with no integrity that speaks too loudly for himself.

On 9/12/2021 5:08 pm, Rudy C wrote:
> Mountain Magpie wrote:
>>
>> Did he pay for the bits and pieces?
>>
>
> like the Johnny Cash song "One piece at a time", where he worked in the
> GM factory?

Prepare to be accused of being Max in 1... 2...

Noddy wrote:
>
> Perhaps your "uncle" was just pulling your chain. You seem to be easily
> amused and all.....
>

Early 80s, I knew a guy with a Valiant Regal sleeper car that went like
a rocket. He claimed that his father worked in the Chrysler factory and
fitted a blueprinted motor to his dealer order number....