Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
>>> petzl wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> >> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> >>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> >>> > petzl wrote
>>>> >>> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> >>> >>> petzl wrote
>>>> >>> >>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> >>> >> >> >Daniel65 <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>> >>> >> >> >> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >>> No chance. Not even with say Sydney/Melburg.
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >> For over 25 years, I lived just outside Wodonga and it
>>>> seemedme
>>>> >>> >> that a
>>>> >>> >> >> >> VFT that stopped at just Albury and Canberra
>>>> whentravelling
>>>> >>> from
>>>> >>> >> >> >> Melbourne to Sydney would be a reasonable trip!
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >Makes no sense to stop in Albury.
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >> Hour and a half - Melbourne to Albury.
>>>> >>> >> >> >> Hour and a half - Albury to Canberra
>>>> >>> >> >> >> Hour and a half - Canberra to Sydney
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >> (or there-abouts)
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >Still stupidly expensive to reduce the travel time so
>>>> little.
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >Makes more sense to reduce the boarding time with air
>>>> travel.
>>>> >>> >> >> >Perfectly possible to do that for FAR less money.
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >> Other townships along the way could have 'normal'
>>>> trainsto
>>>> >>> those
>>>> >>> >> four
>>>> >>> >> >> >> stops and would still do the trip quicker!
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >Makes much more sense for them to fly, as they do now.
>>>> >>> >> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >> >Only takes a bit over and hour for me to fly from my place
>>>> >>> >> >> >to Sydney or Melburg, half a fucking day by train.
>>>> >>> >> >> *IF* the latest VFT track Sydney to Melbourne were to happen
>>>> >>> >> >> With the latest VFT
>>>> >>> >> >> It would then take 2 hours to Melbourne and vice versa
>>>> >>> >> >> No boarding/checking time
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>> >>> >> >> Albury Canberra The latest VFT train carriages segregate
>>>> from
>>>> main
>>>> >>> >> >> train and main train continue to minor stations.
>>>> >>> >> >> No taking on dropping off passengers required, between
>>>> Sydney
>>>> >>> >> >> Melbourne (vice versa)
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >I travelled from St Petersburg to Moscow by their superfast
>>>> train,
>>>> >>> >> > average speed was around 210kmph.
>>>> >>> >> >Great experience, no stops. The station was just opposite our
>>>> hotel,
>>>> >>> >> > and our tour bus was waiting in Moscow.
>>>> >>> >> > As I remember it took about 5 hours. From 10am to 3pm, but I
>>>> could
>>>> >>> be
>>>> >>> >> > wrong here. Very pleasant journey.
>>>> >>> >> > 2 hours as you say sounds optimistic, unless you have the
>>>> lates
>>>> >>> maglev
>>>> >>> >> > that Japan has. Goes at 500 kmph, as per one of the designers
>>>> >>> >> > who gave a talk in the SMART2015 conference.
>>>> >>> >> > I am sure it will be a hit, and will help greatly in fighting
>>>> >>> climate
>>>> >>> >> > change. Most bad happens when CO2 and other heavy gases are
>>>> emitted
>>>> >>> >> > at 12000m, and take a long while to come down to Earth.
>>>> >>> >> > The pandemic has brought back Melbourne weather back to the
>>>> 1989
>>>> >>> >> > period when I came here, and really enjoyed the sweet
>>>> weather.
>>>> >>> >> > With more flights, it will become bad again, I have no doubt.
>>>> >>> >> > I have long said that the main culprit behind climate change
>>>> or
>>>> >>> global
>>>> >>> >> > warming is constant pollution by jet engine exhausts, at
>>>> 12000m,
>>>> >>> >> something
>>>> >>> >> > that never happened before. Right now we have like an unseen
>>>> cloud
>>>> >>> of
>>>> >>> >> CO2
>>>> >>> >> > hovering above, creating the greenhouse effect.
>>>> >>> >> > The only way out is the Internal Force Engine, which will
>>>> >>> >> revolutionize travel.
>>>> >>> >> > Ultrafast, in near space, no exhausts.
>>>> >>> >> > I am glad to say, I am making progress on that front!
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> The Japanese Maglev was designed in 2011 travel a 285.6 km
>>>> (177.5 mi)
>>>> >>> >> (Shinagawa–Nagoya) track, but are building track Tokyo to
>>>> Osaka.
>>>> >>> >> presently 6 hours with existing train will be 1 hour using
>>>> Maglev.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Amazing, their technology. The train lifts off tge track at
>>>> 160kmph
>>>> >>> then
>>>> >>> > accelerates using electromagnetic forces. There are barriers on
>>>> both
>>>> >>> > sides containing metal wires in a certain shape. The verh high
>>>> >>> > superconducting currents whose magnetic fiekd induce a voltage
>>>> their
>>>> >>> > which in turn creates a magnetic field interacting with the high
>>>> >>> > superconducting current causing both lift and propulsion.
>>>> Different
>>>> >>> from
>>>> >>> > the usual linear motor.
>>>> >
>>>> >>> But even more stupidly expensive andwouldn't get a useful time
>>>> result
>>>> >>> for us.
>>>> >
>>>> >> If the Japanese can, we can,
>>>> >
>>>> >Nope, our situation is quite different.
>>>> >
>>>> Well Japans population is 126 million Australia is 20 million but can
>>>> make a VFT profitable providing a better deal than Air travel from
>>>> MEL/SYD get now!
>>>>
>>>> Just SYD/MEL VFT (300 MPH)has already been audited as profitable.
>>>> The killer has been Macquarie bank lobbyists who don't want it so they
>>>> pushed for political stops at barnyard towns in that made it
>>>> uneconomic. In fact even before leaving Sydney there were a number of
>>>> suburbs demanding VFT stops Campbelltown one of them!
>>>> >
>>>> >> if we don't listen to Luddite cretins.
>>>> >
>>>> >> It will totally replace time wasting and polluting air travel.
>>>> >
>>>> >Nope, it is FAR too expensive even between
>>>> >our capital citys, let alone everywhere else.
>>>> >
>>>> MEL/SYD will be far quicker/cheaper and take you to MEL/SYD city
>>>> centres! plus remove A LOT OF Sydney smog from our struggling air
>>>> basin!
>>>> Major polluter of noise and pollution are domestic MEL/SYD air routes.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Going at 500 kmph will be some experience.
>>>> >
>>>> >Pity about the stupid cost of that.
>>>> >
>>>> 300 mph and faster is already available and cheaper than a XPT
>>>> The real cost is the track
>>>> >
>>>> >> One can even do good work there, not being cramped like sardines..
>>>> >
>>>> >It is no different to a plane, stupid.
>>>> >
>>>> That's not true. You dropped of some people in Sydney then went back
>>>> by train the comfort would not be a problem the time it took yes.
>>>> >
>>>> >>> >> But just upgrading existing Sydney/Melbourne track to handle
>>>> present
>>>> >>> >> trains speed, the existing trains 900 km, at present takes 11
>>>> hours.
>>>> >>> >> XPT is rated for 160 km/h which brings time down to 7 hours if
>>>> tracks
>>>> >>> >> were designed for this.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > My gut feeling is that it should take 4 hours at most to take
>>>> off
>>>> and
>>>> >>> be
>>>> >>> > a serious rival to air.
>>>> >>> Still wouldnt be given the fact that the fares would have to be
>>>> >>> more than the air fare and only the climate fools would use it.
>>>> >
>>>> >> All would use it
>>>> >
>>>> >How odd that that doesnt happen in europe.
>>>> >
>>>> ?
>>>> All trains in UK-France, Germany. are VFT and very well patronized but
>>>> they do have the population to feed them.
>>>> <https://www.trenitalia.com/en/frecce/frecciarossa.html>
>>>> MEL/SYD have this capacity too.
>>>> >
>>>> >> including the Luddite fools.
>>>> >
>>>> >See above.
>>>> >
>>>> All trains in UK-France, Germany. are VFT and very well patronized but
>>>> they do have the population to feed them.
>>>> <https://www.trenitalia.com/en/frecce/frecciarossa.html>
>>>> MEL/SYD have this capacity too.
>>>> >
>>>> >>> > 7 hours not good enough.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >> Yes *IF* CO2 emissions are a concern a VFT a real one that can
>>>> do at
>>>> >>> >> least twice the speed 320 km/h would bring time down to 3 hours
>>>> >>> (Track
>>>> >>> >> Syd/Mel shortened).
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > That would be great.
>>>> >>> > Air travel as is now with polluting jet engines must be banned
>>>> or
>>>> >
>>>> >>> highly restricted.
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Not even possible with international travel and even more
>>>> >>> insanely stupidly priced if it wasn't just for the capital citys.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Stopping international jet air travel is a very good idea
>>>> >
>>>> >Not even possible.
>>>> >
>>>> Not really a problem yet
>>>> >
>>>> >> as it creates global warming and imbalances.
>>>> >
>>>> >Wrong, as always.
>>>> >
>>>> The problem for Sydney is flights from Syd/Mel are killing hundreds a
>>>> year.
>>>> https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aac02a
>>>> >
>>>> >And there is no way that we will have just ships again, you watch.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >> To save the world it must be banned,
>>>> >
>>>> >Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>> >
>>>> Big problem for Europe
>>>> https://flight-radar.eu
>>>> >
>>>> >> and the pandemic clearly shows the benefits of outing jet travel..
>>>> >
>>>> >> It is necesary to have hydrogen fuel for engines, pendingmy new
>>>> class
>>>> >> of motors also running on hydrogen.
>>>> >
>>>> >Just another of your pathetic little insane fantasys.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Jet engines are criminal.
>>>> >
>>>> >You are brain dead.
>>>> >
>>>> Turning ten tonne of Jet Fuel (kerosene/toluene) into carcinogenic
>>>> soot every hour, over high density populations is a criminal act
>>>> <https://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_04/textonly/s01txt.html>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yx348s3v
>>>> >
>>>> >>>> The climate in Melbourne became much cooler
>>>> >>>> with the pandemic cutting down on flights.
>>>> >
>>>> >>> In fact that was swamped by La Nina, stupid.
>>>> >
>>>> >> No idiot, less flights meant less carbon dioxide to increase heat,
>>>> so
>>>> >> there was cooling with cleaner, clearer air. Just as cloudless
>>>> nights
>>>> >> are cooler, as most know.
>>>> >
>>>> >You'll see in the next La Nina once covid no longer restricts
>>>> aircraft,
>>>> >
>>>> El Niño (warmer) is usually more common for Australia
>>>> >
>>>> >> Other effects are always there.
>>>> >> The weather in Melboutne became much cooler after covid shut down
>>>> >> flights.
>>>> >
>>>> >Nope, La Nina happened and won't last forever.
>>
>>>> Covid did also, but do believe CO causing climate change a scam
>>>
>>> yes, it is a scam when they are talking about emissions on the ground.
>>> At 10000m, another matter, about which the great-great chaps are quiet.
>>
>>>> Explained very well with "Yes prime minister"
>>>> https://vimeo.com/231081036
>>>> Yes Prime Minister Global Warming etc Part 2
>>>> Part 1 is good also
>>>> https://player.vimeo.com/video/124391891
>>>> Yes Prime Minister Global Warming etc Part 1 - Vimeo
>>>> >
>>>> >> The CO2 cloud is much more prominent in the Northernhemisphere so
>>>> they
>>>> >> are much more stuffed.
>>>> >
>>>> >How odd that they didn't get the rain we did.
>>>> >
>>>> Since they started Sydney's Desal plant the rain hasn't stopped!
>>>> As I said it would
>>>> Turn it off drought begins
>>>> >
>>>> >> The greenhouse effect is so much there with heavy CO2 at 12000m
>>>> acting
>>>> >> like an invisible cloud.
>>>> >
>>>> >How odd that no one in the northern hemispere saw it any cooler.
>>>> >
>>>> ? haven't they?
>>>> >
>>>> >>> > The busiest air route in the world is Sydney
>>>> >>> >> Melbourne and vice versa is normally over 500 flights a week..
>>>> >>> >> Each or these jet aircraft burn 10 tonnes of jet fuel a hour,
>>>> turn it
>>>> >>> >> into carcinogenic soot. Respiratory problems in Sydney's air
>>>> basin
>>>> >>> are
>>>> >>> >> off the map because of this!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > Pollution never helps.
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Thats more pig ignorant bullshit. It would if global warming was
>>>> real.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Luddite fools will never learn.
>>>> >
>>>> >Yep, you clowns actually are that stupid.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Jet engines belching out pollution cannot but createglobal warming
>>>> with
>>>> >> sudden drastic sideeffects.
>>>> >
>>>> >How odd that we aren't seeing any warming now
>>>> >that the planes are back to normal again.
>>>> >
>>>> Never happened to begin with.
>>>> But the air became breathable
>>>> >
>>>> >> The problem is that jet engines are not gettingblamed for the
>>>> elites
>>>> >> use them to get around.
>>>> >
>>>> >It isnt just the elites that use them, stupid.
>>>> >
>>>> >> So they attack coal and fossil fuel.
>>>> >> The CO2 from them fal back to the ground and gets absorbed.
>>>> >
>>>> >Just as true of jet engines, stupid.
>>>> >
>>>> Jets just make very fine soot particals
>>>> >
>>>> >> But the bosses have to pretend to do somethingand place the blame
>>>> >> somewhere.
>>>> >
>>>> >And fools like you believe that there never was any moon
>>>> >landing, even tho we can still see what was left there.
>>>> >
>>>> Pope Saint Paul VI saw the landing from the Vaticans telescope.
>>>> Actually he saw the Apollo 11 Command Module leaving 24 July 1969.
>>>> 26th in Australia
>>
>>> Holy people have visions denied others.
>>
>> Pathetic.

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