On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 09:34:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:44:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:36:55 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the
>>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>>>> happen, was
>>>>>> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>>>> the case.
>>>>>> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>>> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>>>>> or Japan.
>>>>>> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>>> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>>>> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>> >> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >No. I don't think so.
>>>>>> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will bet they will think the same about your sect whatever that is.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a sect.
>>>>>
>>>>>> >They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in the
>>>>>> original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not
>>>>>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so,
>>>>>> perhaps.
>>>>>> >That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists, selfish-greedy
>>>>>> sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is tension.
>>>>>> >As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say off-hand
>>>>>> unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>>>>>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>>>>>> >In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions evil.
>>>>>> Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to another.
>>>>>> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can try. Chaps who tried have not been too successful so far.
>>>>> Except the Mongols, but that was a while ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>> >> Not in ethics.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever happens it
>>>>>> will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for ethics
>>>>>> for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars and
>>>>>> divorces are the natural outcomes.
>>>>>> >Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>> They do not believe in ethics. For them the notion of right or wrong
>>>>> based upon traditional beliefs is conditioning of the lower classes by
>>>>> the higher classes, for the latter to keep the former docile.
>>>>> They believe in classes, class struggle, class enemy and dictatorship
>>>>> of the proletariat. Well, the last one turns into a dictatorship quite
>>>>> fast
>>>>> Other sects have faith, and usually there are aspects in the faith
>>>>> such
>>>>> as the ten commandments that have basis in ethics.
>>>>>
>>>>>> >Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are based
>>>>>> upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics.
>>>>>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>>>>>> >They are not Indian yet!
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>>> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>>> >Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>> >> >> pocket?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>>> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>>>>>> >I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one of
>>>>>> his hotels.
>>>>>> >Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over -
>>>>>> totally - quite recently.
>>>>>> >My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>>>>>> >Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war yet
>>>>>> and what more can one expect from any potus?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war and he is one sick
>>>>>> bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill Putin off.
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not get
>>>>> nukes.
>>>>
>>>> Who said they were going to get Nukes? They had nukes and gave them
>>>> up.
>>>>
>>>>> Chances of WW3 is now less.
>>>>> It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens
>>>>> will
>>>>> not just be nuclear. There are weapons like Covid and even worse
>>>>> viruses that could be set loose.
>>>>> Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is backed
>>>>> by
>>>>> my experience while touring Russia.
>>>
>>>> Putin is a war criminal and a freak and a total liar.
>>>
>>> So is Trump.
>>>
>>>> Russia doesn't have a free press.
>>>
>>> It never has had.
>>>
>>>> Then again to disagree with Putin will get
>>>> you 15 years in jail or killed.
>>>
>>> More of your mindless bullshit with that woman
>>> who held up a placard behind the news reader.
>
>> You are a Putin lover.
>
>Wrong, as always. I think that Putin is a psychopath
>and total arsehole who has those he decides are his
>enemys murdered, has just invaded the Ukraine and who
>gets no say on what the Ukraine does EU and NATO wise.

No you are a Putin lover and desire the atheist State called the
USSR back.
>
>> I see that.
>
>Obvious lie, you are so drug crazed and drunk
>that you are incapable of seeing anything at all.
>
>> To me he is a idiot and a freak.
>
>Yep, you have always been that terminal a fuckwit
>and god botherer that has never had a fucking clue
>about anything at all, ever and can't even manage
>a viable insult.

YAWN, you re just a troll and a wuss.
>
>>>>> Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the
>>>>> civil war?
>>>>> Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
>>>>> Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security
>>>>> measures,
>>>>> so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his job. At
>>>>> least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
>>>>
>>>> What gods? Putin is a freak.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Cheers,
>>>>>> >Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> >> >> >