Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 13:34:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
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>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 09:27:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
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>>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:41:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:46:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the
>>>>>>>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>>>>>>>>> happen,
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is
>>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>>>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian
>>>>>>>>>>> butts.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>>>>>>> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated
>>>>>>>>>>> Vietnam
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>>>>>>> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>>>>>>>> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>>>>>>> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>>>>>>> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No. I don't think so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit. The most they did is self preservation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would they support what is going on in Ukraine and how is that
>>>>>>> self-preservation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The self preservation was way back when Stalin was trying to stamp
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> out, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> What has that to do with today?
>>>>
>>>> It's the evidence that they arent evil, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> No that is not evidence of what they are today, but in the past.
>>
>> Have fun showing that they are evil today.

> Putin and they support the war of aggression being done by Russia.

That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.

It is very far from clear that whether they support the invasion
or not or even what lies they have been fed about the invasion
even if they do support it.

> You are rather desperate to support that freak, Putin.

I have never ever supported Putin, you stupid drug
crazed drunken fuckwit.

>>>>>> Nothing evil about that.
>>>>
>>>>>> You are just another arsehole god botherer that
>>>>>> wants to stamp out any other god botherers
>>>>>> whose stupid cult is different in detail to yours.
>>>>
>>>> He's right. Yes, I know that was me.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not
>>>>>>>>>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so,
>>>>>>>>>> perhaps.
>>>>>>>>>> That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists,
>>>>>>>>>> selfish-greedy
>>>>>>>>>> sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is
>>>>>>>>>> tension.
>>>>>>>>>> As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say
>>>>>>>>>> off-hand
>>>>>>>>>> unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>>>>>>>>>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>>>>>>>>>> In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions
>>>>>>>>>> evil.
>>>>>>>>>> Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to
>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not even possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not in ethics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever
>>>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for
>>>>>>>>>> ethics
>>>>>>>>>> for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> divorces are the natural outcomes.
>>>>>>>>>> Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are
>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>> upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not
>>>>>>>>>> ethics.
>>>>>>>>>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>>>>>>>>>> They are not Indian yet!
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>>>>>>> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>>>>>>>> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather
>>>>>>>>>>> disgusting.
>>>>>>>>>> Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin's
>>>>>>>>>>> >> pocket?
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>>>>>>> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>>>>>>> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>>>>>>>> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>>>>>>>>>> I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>> hotels.
>>>>>>>>>> Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken
>>>>>>>>>> over -
>>>>>>>>>> totally - quite recently.
>>>>>>>>>> My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>>>>>>>>>> Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war
>>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> what more can one expect from any potus?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only fools are actually stupid enough to believe that he is
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>> stupid enough to do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is if he is completely sane. Maybe he and Biden both have
>>>>>>> dementia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure.
>>>>
>>>> Fraid so.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and he is one sick bastard. Maybe one of his own people will
>>>>>>>>> kill
>>>>>>>>> Putin off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rather unlikely that Putin is actually stupid enough to allow that
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Time will tell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time has told, no one has actually been stupid enough to try it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plenty did with Hitler.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitler and Nuclear war?
>>>>
>>>> Nope, Hitler had lots of attempts to kill him.
>>>
>>> OK
>>>>
>>>>> Tell us more.
>>>>
>>>> Just how many of you are there between those ears ?