Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 05:19:45 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 03:20:46 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 13:39:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 09:34:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:44:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:36:55 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the
>>>>>>>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>>>>>>>>> happen, was
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is
>>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>>> the case.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian
>>>>>>>>>>> butts.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated
>>>>>>>>>>> Vietnam
>>>>>>>>>>> or Japan.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have
>>>>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >No. I don't think so.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will bet they will think the same about your sect whatever
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't have a sect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so,
>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps.
>>>>>>>>>>> >That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists,
>>>>>>>>>>> selfish-greedy
>>>>>>>>>>> sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is
>>>>>>>>>>> tension.
>>>>>>>>>>> >As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say
>>>>>>>>>>> off-hand
>>>>>>>>>>> unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>>>>>>>>>>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>>>>>>>>>>> >In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions
>>>>>>>>>>> evil.
>>>>>>>>>>> Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to
>>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>>> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can try. Chaps who tried have not been too successful so
>>>>>>>>>> far.
>>>>>>>>>> Except the Mongols, but that was a while ago.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Not in ethics.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever
>>>>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for
>>>>>>>>>>> ethics
>>>>>>>>>>> for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> divorces are the natural outcomes.
>>>>>>>>>>> >Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They do not believe in ethics. For them the notion of right or
>>>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>>>> based upon traditional beliefs is conditioning of the lower
>>>>>>>>>> classes
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> the higher classes, for the latter to keep the former docile.
>>>>>>>>>> They believe in classes, class struggle, class enemy and
>>>>>>>>>> dictatorship
>>>>>>>>>> of the proletariat. Well, the last one turns into a dictatorship
>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>> fast
>>>>>>>>>> Other sects have faith, and usually there are aspects in the
>>>>>>>>>> faith
>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>> as the ten commandments that have basis in ethics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are
>>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>> upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not
>>>>>>>>>>> ethics.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan
>>>>>>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>>>>> >They are not Indian yet!
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine
>>>>>>>>>>> image.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather
>>>>>>>>>>> disgusting.
>>>>>>>>>>> >Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin's
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> pocket?
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get
>>>>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>>>> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>>>>>>>>>>> >I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> his hotels.
>>>>>>>>>>> >Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken
>>>>>>>>>>> over -
>>>>>>>>>>> totally - quite recently.
>>>>>>>>>>> >My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>>>>>>>>>>> >Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war
>>>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>>>> and what more can one expect from any potus?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war and he is one sick
>>>>>>>>>>> bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill Putin off.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> nukes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who said they were going to get Nukes? They had nukes and gave
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chances of WW3 is now less.
>>>>>>>>>> It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it
>>>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> not just be nuclear. There are weapons like Covid and even
>>>>>>>>>> worse
>>>>>>>>>> viruses that could be set loose.
>>>>>>>>>> Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is
>>>>>>>>>> backed
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> my experience while touring Russia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Putin is a war criminal and a freak and a total liar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So is Trump.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Russia doesn't have a free press.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It never has had.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then again to disagree with Putin will get
>>>>>>>>> you 15 years in jail or killed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit with that woman
>>>>>>>> who held up a placard behind the news reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are a Putin lover.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, as always. I think that Putin is a psychopath
>>>>>> and total arsehole who has those he decides are his
>>>>>> enemys murdered, has just invaded the Ukraine and who
>>>>>> gets no say on what the Ukraine does EU and NATO wise.
>>>>
>>>>> No you are a Putin lover and desire the atheist State called the
>>>>> USSR back.
>>>>
>>>> Prove it, fuckwit child.
>>>
>>> Your words do,
>>
>> You never could bullshit and lie your way out of
>> a wet paper bag, you stupid drug crazed drunken
>> lying arsehole fuckwit.

> Please, tell me you can do better.

You don't qualify for anything better, you pathetic excuse
for a drug crazed drunken god bothering fuckwit child.