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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 09:39 UTC

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, 17 April 2022 at 03:14:46 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 23:15:04 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, 16 April 2022 at 03:36:14 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:26:25 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, 15 April 2022 at 02:28:54 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 18:54:30 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >No, they have a thriving democracy where opposition is
>> allowed.
>> >> >> >> >> Then go outside and yell the war must stop or peace now.
>> >> >> >> >In times of war opposition is not allowed anywhere.
>> >> >> >> But that Putin doesn't even want it called a war. Putin is an
>> idiot
>> >> >> >> and true pure evil. Putin also said the war was because
>> Ukraine was
>> >> >> >> Nazi. They have a Jew as president. It is Putin that is like
>> the
>> >> >> >> Nazis and a true idiot.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >No, Putin says that if Ukraine joined NATO it could not be
>> invaded.
>> >> >> Well would have made it much harder.
>> >> >Impossibly one-sided without nuclear exchange. Putin knew that
>> Ukraine would be lost if it joined NATO. So he invaded before they
>> could join NATO.
>> >> >> >So he has to make a pre-emptive move, calls in special
>> operations.
>> >> >> Putin, is an idiot and so much like the old USSR, I also believe
>> he
>> >> >> like Biden might have dementia.
>> >> >Wrong. From his videos giving press conferences he appears highly
>> intelligent, aware and capable. Does not read out from a screen, gives
>> good replies.
>> >> >> >Zelensky is a US puppet, serving western interests.
>> >> >> Not really. Do you believe wanting to be independent of Russian
>> >> >> control to be only "western interests"? There is China if Putin
>> >> >> wants a good ass kicking.
>> >> >Zelensky was not under Russian control.
>> >> >He was and is under western control. '
>> >> >> >Those grabbing interests were foiled by Putin, so there is much
>> squealing in the western media.
>> >> >> No, it is the murders and war crimes that is causing that.
>> >> >
>> >> >Who knows who did what crime.
>> >> I know, I know if it isn't from Russian State television it is fake
>> >> news all those videos are fake.
>> >Who knows. All I know is that the West is fighting a proxy war with
>> Russia, to the last Ukrainian.
>> Tell me, is Putin telling the mothers of those kids killed that
>> they have died or is he afraid, too.
>> >> >All I know is that Biden wants Putin out, for that is what he said
>> - as having a more pliant chap like Zelensky in Moscow would help the
>> West in the never-ending grab that reached its height after the
>> break-up of USSR. Which Putin fixed.
>> >> Putin is a freak.
>> >Well he could look that way to those wanting drunken swine in charge
>> of Russia, the whole lot being corrupt to their cores.
>> >That I agree to.
>>
>> >Actually I think I know Putin well, for in my childhood I grew up
>> among would-be Putins. It was unique, no doubt. No other Indian boy had
>> such an experience.
>> >That way, I am certainly freakish to the likes of you. Very different
>> we are, certainly.
>> Yes, and the sooner Putin dies, the better for the free world. Are
>> you Sudras or Untouchable? I'm betting Sudras wants to be like Putin,
>> who if of India would be an Untouchable.

> What free world?

The one so many of you hindus chose to leave India for.

> What on earth makes you think you are free?

I get to do anything I like.

> You USAns are only free to pollute the earth and proclaim you are the
> greatest!

You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> Very many are in jail, not free at all,

Only the druggys and illegals.

> and the rest are fat, sad, mad and bad.

Corse you aren't anything like that yourself, eh ?

>> >> >> >The Russians call thieves Nazis. Nazis stole the amber panels
>> from the winter palace, and that seemed to bother our Russian guide the
>> most for they have not yet been recovered.
>> >> >> How will he take back say Poland? USSR failed and many found
>> >> >> freedom so much better than any form of communism or tyranny.
>> >> >
>> >> >Russians think Ukraine belongs to them.
>> >> It doesn't.
>> >
>> >Nor does Tibet to China that way, or Israel to European Jews.
>> You forgot the Palestinians to Israel.
>> >Might makes right, what?
>> >The American way, no?

>> Tell Putin he thought he had the might turns out he and his are
>> wimps.

> No, they are just not killing as indiscriminately

Obvious lie.

> and massively as USAns do, so they are retreating strategically finding
> that there are superior weapons against them.

> I do not think they will give up. They will stay for years if necessary.

Didnt help with Afghanistan.

>> >> >Poland was an enemy for centuries, and a reluctant part of Warsaw
>> Pact. Again it is an enemy to Russia. Quite historic, their animosity.
>> Sad. They should learn to be good friends, both are wonderful in their
>> own ways.
>> >> Do you still believe that the Ukrainians would be waiting with open
>> >> arms for you and Putin? They kicked your army's ass.
>> >
>> >Yes, they were provided with neat weapons but they fought in the
>> cities.
>> In part.
>
> In the East they are dug in, so difficult to dislodge.

We'll see...

The attack from
> the North helped to draw out some of them and that lead to land gain,
> principally from Crimea to the Donbass. Keeping that is the political
> goal, I think.

And it remains to be seen if that will work...

>> >Yes, you did
>> >> attack civilians, but how else can the cowardly Russian armed forces
>> >> act the Ukrainian armed forces, even with fewer arms kicked Russia's
>> >> ass big time.
>> >
>> >But Russia got what Russia wanted, and that is what matters.
>> To you maybe. It isn't over yet. USA is returning jobs to USA and
>> that will hurt China as they have shown they support Putin and his
>> ways, Support genocide buy "Made in China".
>> >
>> >> They even sunk some of your ships.
>> >
>> >True.
>> Hopefully, many more to come.

> Hopefully, the war will stop with partition of Ukraine.

This isn't India, stupid.

>> >> >It is US that is a tyrannical monster: full of lies, violence,
>> greed, selfishness, meanness, lechery, pollution, jails, casinos,
>> racism, bigotry etc.
>> >> >Its tyranny lies in inflicting its vile culture or lack of it upon
>> unsuspecting outsiders.
>> >> >Russia is much more positive.
>> >> Almost choked on that bit of propaganda. What do you think of
>> >> Australia?
>> >
>> >More to the point, what do Australians think of US?
>
>> I trained with their military and they think well of the USA. The
>> government may be taking a glass-half-full approach. They dislike
>> China and China's support of Putin's genocide isn't helping there. The
>> Marxists never liked the USA and don't really matter.
>
> There were massive rallies against Australian involvement in Iraq.

And arent with the Ukraine.

>> >> >> >> >> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so long
>> as that is not treacherous.
>> >> >> >> >> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.
>> >> >> >> >No, so long as you are not treacherous as his opposition
>> usually are, being the tools of the West.
>> >> >> >> Telling people there is a war and wanting peace is so very
>> >> >> >> treacherous and worthy of 15 years in jail to that freak Putin.
>> >> >> >It is a war for peace and security.
>> >> >> >Not wanting NATO nukes pointed at your belly is an idea
>> supported by most Russians.
>> >> >> >> >> >A fine system, far better than US.
>> >> >> >> >> No.
>> >> >> >> >Yes, to thirdworlders.
>> >> >> >> Third-world countries like Russia.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Correct, first time! Congratulations.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Fuck Russia, it is a backward
>> >> >> >> sewer, well, those that support Putin are shit. Wait, not a
>> sewer
>> >> >> >> that is too advanced, just an outhouse.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Russia gives; US takes!
>> >> >> How did the US "take" and what?
>> >> >
>> >> >From India US took the top talent for generations, now. Used them
>> for economic gain.
>> >> Took them? Maybe they paid then and treated them better. Doubt
>> >> they were abducted. Maybe if India wasn't such a shit hole country
>> >> they would have stayed.
>> >
>> >Of course they took them with bribes. India suffers accordingly.
>> Well, do you believe they should have been forced to stay as Putin
>> would have done to his people?
>> >Singapore and China did not have this loss, so they prosper much
>> better.
>> China is communist, so the people may not have had choices.
>> Singapore prospers because they have a high-tech industrial base and a
>> good military. They are also smart in walking the fine line between
>> Beijing and the US. Getting the best from both relationships.
>> >
>> >> >From Ukraine it took away peace and whatever wits they had by
>> placing a puppet in charge.
>> >
>> >> That was a elected leader. Well liked by the majority of the
>> >> people. How long has it been since Russia had a free and open
>> >> elections?
>> >
>> >Then if not a puppet - which he is - he is certainly the stupidest
>> leader of our time, to have wrecked his country by believing in US
>> promises.
>> Then you believe he should have just surrendered to all Putin's
>> demands?

> To reasonable demands, yes.

None of Putin's demands are reasonable, fuckwit.

> Became a puppet state for Putin, and gave up what the EU
>> could give culturally?
>
> He could have done an India, got non-aligned, and benefited like India
> did from both sides.

He isn't that stupid. He realised that the Ukrainians prefer to be able
to work anywhere in the EU which you stupid curry munchers aren't.

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