On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 02:51:59 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:40:50 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 25 April 2022 at 19:18:10 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:38:46 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, 25 April 2022 at 16:08:23 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:50:56 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Saturday, 23 April 2022 at 23:02:10 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wednesday, 6 April 2022 at 22:12:45 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
> >> >> >> > Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> He was and still is referring to Ukraine ambitions in 2006 to join
> >> >> NATO never happened then, was not happening in 2022.
> >>
> >> > Irrelevant.
> >> Bullshit.
> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>
> >> > All Ukraine had to do was to say they would remain neutral.
> >> They have the right to choose between the EU and russia, fuckwit.
> > That was nothing to do with the invasion
> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's
> saying something.
> > Ukraine had and has a very bad leadership.
> > Disastrous, really. So sad.
> Putin gets no say what so ever on that, fuckwit.
> > Who wants such stupids as leaders!
> The Ukrainians, fuckwit.
> >> > But they wanted to be part of NATO,
> >> Wrong, as always. And even if they did, that is none of Putin's
> >> business.
>
> > It is perfectly true that they wanted to be part of NATO like Poland etc.
> More of your mindless bullshit.
> > And that made it Putin's business.
> Bullshit it did. And you can't even manage a consistent
> line in mindless bullshit and lies. Below you stupidly
> claim that the reason Putin invaded is because of the
> number of russian immigrants killed in the Ukraine.
> > Just as Cuba was for US.
> Nothing like. The US didn't invade Cuba, fuckwit.
> >> > just as Sweden and Finland now.
>
> >> Neither have decided to join NATO yet, and if they do, it
> >> will be because of what that arsehole Putin has just done
> >> to ensure that arsehole Putin doesn't try it with them.
>
> > Being a fool, you cannot understand what I write.
> We'll see...
>
> > Ukraine never joined NATO,
>
> Never said they did, fuckwit.
>
> > but wanted to.
>
> Nope, they wanted to join the EU because it
> works a hell of a lot better than russia does.
>
> > So they got invaded.
>
> You can't even manage a consistent line in mindless
> bullshit and lies. Below you stupidly claim that the
> reason Putin invaded is because of the number of
> russian immigrants killed in the Ukraine.
> > If Sweden and Finland try to join NATO they too may get invaded.
> Not a chance, you watch.
> > So they better not try that path.
> If they get invaded, bye bye Putin, you watch.
> >> > Had they remained neutral, they would have got benefits from both
> >> sides.
>
> >> More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>
> > Ignorant fool, try reading up on nonalignment policy.
> Don't need to, I have been watching India get no benefits
> what so ever with that approach since before you were born.
>
> Indonesia too.
> > Putin would
> >> not have handed them what he did if they had done that
> >> and the EU certainly doesnt hand out to non EU countrys.
> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>>
> >> > Or they could have split amicably as in Czechoslovakia.
> >
> >> Different situation entirely. The Ukraine isnt ukrainians and
> >> russians, it is ukrainians and ex russian army immigrants, fuckwit.
>
> > Bare faced lie.
> Fact actually.
> > The West is Polish-type Catholic and the East is Russian Orthodox.
> Czechoslovakia aint about religion, fuckwit.
> > They could have partitioned peacefully.
> Just like India eh ?
> >> > But they chose to persecute ethnic Russians.
>
> >> More of your pig ignorant bullshit.
>
> > Not what Putin and his Parliament think
> Bullshit. Both know that it was the russian non badged
> military that got killed there, for a good reason.
> > Which is what matters.
> > Most agree that there was civil war in the Donbass for 8 years.
> Nope, Putin's russian non badged military invaded.
>
> When that didn't work, Putin invaded much more aggressively.
> > That was another casus belli.
> Bullshit, your trademark.
> >> > Bad idea, when Russia is so near. And still powerful, with nukes.
>
> >> >> In 2013 Ukraine wanted to become part of the European Union which was
> >> >> very popular with Ukrainians, Putin stepped in then and stopped it,
> >> >> but offered Ukraine $1.5 Billion and third discount on Russian gas
> >> >> price, this was not popular with Ukrainians. Zelensky was voted in to
> >> >> restore a move for Ukraine to join the EU, not NATO
>
> >> > Forgetting the 2014 coup
>
> >> Never happened.
> >
> > Heh. All know the pro-Russian leader was ousted after Western
> > interference.
> Bullshit, your trademark.
>
> > Plenty of violence then.
>
> But no coup, fuckwit.
> >> > and the 14000 Russians killed in the Donbass,
>
> >> Only happened because those immigrants
> >> tried to grab part of the ukraine, fuckwit.
>
> > They already got Crimea which had Russian majority
> That happened later, fuckwit.
> > Why not give up on Donbass peacefully?
> Because there isn't a majority of russians there, fuckwit.
> > Regions wanting to secede could vote under international supervision.
> If that happened, it would be obvious that there arent
> enough russians there to see it go to russia.
>
> And anyway, it makes absolutely no sense for lots of
> immigrants to show up and demand that where they
> move to must be given to the country they left, fuckwit.
> > They will be forced to do that - give up Donbass - now.
> No chance, you watch.
> > No need for this mess had they more sense.
> Just like the partition of India, eh ?
> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>>
> >> > Zelensky is evidently a CIA agent,
>
> >> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed narcissistic fantasys.
>
> >> > out to ruin Ukraine for the good of US military-industrial complex,
> >> > trying out new technology, etc.
>
> >> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed narcissistic fantasys.
>
> > Nah, dumbfuck. He is nothing Ukrainian, just a US plant as per youtube
> > info.
> Just because some one eyed fool claims something...
> > He has ruined Ukraine, no question of that.
> Nope, that arsehole Putin has.
> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>
> > Ukraine was ok with Russia for decades before the 2014 coup that
> > led to the creation of this puppet.
> More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
> They chose to leave the USSR, just like Poland
> and countless other countrys did, fuckwit.
> > Putin wants to avoid such a coup in Moscow.
> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
> >> Putin was the one who invaded, fuckwit.
>
> > He had to. USA is to blame for that. According to Prof. Mearsheimer.
> > US was up to no good.
> That fool never had a fucking clue.
> > Trying to stick nukes up Russia's belly, staging a coup in Kiev, also
> > tried that in Kazakhstan! Failed there.
> > Well, Putin expounds the Monroe Doctrine in his region.
> > Why does US complain? Putin flatters them by imitation.
> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
> >> > Yes elections can be won by a foreign agent when there is a lot of
> >> money
> >> > and the people are stupid.
>
> >> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed narcissistic fantasys.
>
> > Learn tspell, creep.
> Hilarious, as always.
>
> Clearly that is the best you can manage.