I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
--
Dieter Britz

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 16:18:23 +0200, db wrote:
>
> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.

What file exactly did you delete?

Haven't used KDE for more than two decades. But Gnome and others have an
option what icons to show on the desktop. Suppose KDE too.
--
Andreas

Am 12.04.23 um 01:14 schrieb Andreas Kohlbach:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 16:18:23 +0200, db wrote:
>>
>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>
> What file exactly did you delete?
>
> Haven't used KDE for more than two decades. But Gnome and others have an
> option what icons to show on the desktop. Suppose KDE too.

Couldn't find it so far. But it is part of the File Explorer/File System.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

Am 12.04.23 um 07:54 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
> Am 12.04.23 um 01:14 schrieb Andreas Kohlbach:
>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 16:18:23 +0200, db wrote:
>>>
>>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>>
>> What file exactly did you delete?
>>
>> Haven't used KDE for more than two decades. But Gnome and others have an
>> option what icons to show on the desktop. Suppose KDE too.
>
> Couldn't find it so far. But it is part of the File Explorer/File System.

Not find it on the Desktop to be precise.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

Am 11.04.23 um 16:18 schrieb db:
> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.

The file manager of Kubuntu 22.04 is Dolphin and out of the box there
are no folders or more exactly links to folders on the desktop on Kubuntu.

A quick test showed it is not possible to link the waste paper basket to
the desktop by the context menu. Even in the settings I could not find
the settings to bring the trash can to the desktop.

But what works: Open Dolphin and draw the trash can to the desktop.
Works perfectly. It creates a fully functional Waste Paper Basket.

HTH, Joerg

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

On 12.04.2023 08.26, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 11.04.23 um 16:18 schrieb db:
>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>
> The file manager of Kubuntu 22.04 is Dolphin and out of the box there
> are no folders or more exactly links to folders on the desktop on Kubuntu.
>
> A quick test showed it is not possible to link the waste paper basket to
> the desktop by the context menu. Even in the settings I could not find
> the settings to bring the trash can to the desktop.
>
> But what works: Open Dolphin and draw the trash can to the desktop.
> Works perfectly. It creates a fully functional Waste Paper Basket.
>
> HTH, Joerg
>
>

I activated Dolphin and get this:
"The file or folder /home/db/Desktop/Home does not exist"
--
Dieter Britz

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:20:29 +0200, db wrote:
> On 12.04.2023 08.26, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 11.04.23 um 16:18 schrieb db:
>>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>>
>> The file manager of Kubuntu 22.04 is Dolphin and out of the box there
>> are no folders or more exactly links to folders on the desktop on Kubuntu.
>>
>> A quick test showed it is not possible to link the waste paper basket to
>> the desktop by the context menu. Even in the settings I could not find
>> the settings to bring the trash can to the desktop.
>>
>> But what works: Open Dolphin and draw the trash can to the desktop.
>> Works perfectly. It creates a fully functional Waste Paper Basket.
>
> I activated Dolphin and get this:
> "The file or folder /home/db/Desktop/Home does not exist"

Maybe this?
Create a new user and use those results to "regenerate" the trashcan.

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:52:23 -0400, Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:20:29 +0200, db wrote:
>> On 12.04.2023 08.26, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 11.04.23 um 16:18 schrieb db:
>>>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>>>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>>>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>>>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>>>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>>>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>>>
>>> The file manager of Kubuntu 22.04 is Dolphin and out of the box there
>>> are no folders or more exactly links to folders on the desktop on Kubuntu.
>>>
>>> A quick test showed it is not possible to link the waste paper basket to
>>> the desktop by the context menu. Even in the settings I could not find
>>> the settings to bring the trash can to the desktop.
>>>
>>> But what works: Open Dolphin and draw the trash can to the desktop.
>>> Works perfectly. It creates a fully functional Waste Paper Basket.
>>
>> I activated Dolphin and get this:
>> "The file or folder /home/db/Desktop/Home does not exist"
>
> Maybe this?
> Create a new user and use those results to "regenerate" the trashcan.

It's normally created the first time a user logs in to kde plasma by
the script /etc/xdg/plasma-workspace/env/plasma5-firstsetup.sh
with the line ...
$ grep trash /etc/xdg/plasma-workspace/env/plasma5-firstsetup.sh
cp -f /usr/share/kio_desktop/directory.trash "${DIR}/org.kde.trash.desktop"

If the Desktop directory has been deleted as appears to be the case here,
create it first with the command 'mkdir "${HOME}"/Desktop', then run
'cp /usr/share/kio_desktop/directory.trash "${HOME}"/Desktop/org.kde.trash.desktop'

Regards, Dave Hodgins

On 4/11/23 07:18, db wrote:
> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.

I don't understand the need nor use of "trash". I've never once used
one. Ever.
If i want to delete things I want them gone.

If you think you may need filse but are not sure, then leave them alone.
Delete them properly when they're no longer needed.

But what do you find in:
~/.local/share/Trash

On 13/04/2023 03:40, stepore wrote:
> On 4/11/23 07:18, db wrote:
>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>
> I don't understand the need nor use of "trash". I've never once used
> one. Ever.
> If i want to delete things I want them gone.
>
> If you think you may need filse but are not sure, then leave them alone.
> Delete them properly when they're no longer needed.
>
> But what do you find in:
> ~/.local/share/Trash

I agree. I got sick of finding .Trash-1000 being created in the root of
every partition.

Its an artefact of many file managers that clicking the delete button
moves them (higlighted files) to the 'trash'.

I think it goes back to MAC/OS9, and got copied by micro$oft. And so
people decided that linux noobs needed it .

--
For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the
very definition of slavery.

Jonathan Swift

Am 13.04.23 um 13:56 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
> On 13/04/2023 03:40, stepore wrote:
>> On 4/11/23 07:18, db wrote:
>>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>>
>> I don't understand the need nor use of "trash". I've never once used
>> one. Ever.
>> If i want to delete things I want them gone.
>>
>> If you think you may need filse but are not sure, then leave them alone.
>> Delete them properly when they're no longer needed.
>>
>> But what do you find in:
>> ~/.local/share/Trash
>
> I agree. I got sick of finding .Trash-1000 being created in the root of
> every partition.
>
> Its an artefact of many file managers that clicking the delete button
> moves them (higlighted files) to the 'trash'.
>
> I think it goes back to MAC/OS9, and got copied by micro$oft. And so
> people decided that linux noobs needed it .

Nonsense.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

On 13/04/2023 16:53, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 13.04.23 um 13:56 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>> On 13/04/2023 03:40, stepore wrote:
>>> On 4/11/23 07:18, db wrote:
>>>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>>>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>>>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>>>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>>>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>>>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>>>
>>> I don't understand the need nor use of "trash". I've never once used
>>> one. Ever.
>>> If i want to delete things I want them gone.
>>>
>>> If you think you may need filse but are not sure, then leave them alone.
>>> Delete them properly when they're no longer needed.
>>>
>>> But what do you find in:
>>> ~/.local/share/Trash
>>
>> I agree. I got sick of finding .Trash-1000 being created in the root of
>> every partition.
>>
>> Its an artefact of many file managers that clicking the delete button
>> moves them (higlighted files) to the 'trash'.
>>
>> I think it goes back to MAC/OS9, and got copied by micro$oft. And so
>> people decided that linux noobs needed it .
>
> Nonsense.
>
Almost true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trash_(computing)

Looks like it goes back to the Amiga and the Lisa.

--
“A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader,
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
“We did this ourselves.”

― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

On 13/04/2023 16:53, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 13.04.23 um 13:56 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>> On 13/04/2023 03:40, stepore wrote:
>>> On 4/11/23 07:18, db wrote:
>>>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>>>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>>>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>>>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>>>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>>>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>>>
>>> I don't understand the need nor use of "trash". I've never once used
>>> one. Ever.
>>> If i want to delete things I want them gone.
>>>
>>> If you think you may need filse but are not sure, then leave them alone.
>>> Delete them properly when they're no longer needed.
>>>
>>> But what do you find in:
>>> ~/.local/share/Trash
>>
>> I agree. I got sick of finding .Trash-1000 being created in the root of
>> every partition.
>>
>> Its an artefact of many file managers that clicking the delete button
>> moves them (higlighted files) to the 'trash'.
>>
>> I think it goes back to MAC/OS9, and got copied by micro$oft. And so
>> people decided that linux noobs needed it .
>
> Nonsense.
>
Well it is,
I was just interested in where the 'trash bin' first appeared

--
"Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing...."
"What kind of person is not interested in those things?"

"Jeremy Corbyn?"

Am 13.04.23 um 18:27 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
> On 13/04/2023 16:53, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 13.04.23 um 13:56 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>>> Its an artefact of many file managers that clicking the delete button
>>> moves them (higlighted files) to the 'trash'.
>>>
>>> I think it goes back to MAC/OS9, and got copied by micro$oft. And so
>>> people decided that linux noobs needed it .
>>
>> Nonsense.
>>
> Well it is,
> I was just interested in where the 'trash bin' first appeared

The "Papierkorb" was adopted so quickly by all manufacturers because it
fits perfectly in the virtual concept of desktop environment as an
office workplace which characterizes all graphical interfaces/desktops.
Completely irrelevant who "invented" it. Simply a folder to store files
which will be deleted permanently at some point.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 19:40:55 -0700, stepore wrote:
>
> On 4/11/23 07:18, db wrote:
>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>
> I don't understand the need nor use of "trash". I've never once used
> one. Ever.

Already thought on my Windows 95 installation why it is there. Also
tried to move "My Computer" into the trashcan. But wasn't allowed. :-D

Hmm, thinking further back, my first GUI desktop, Workbench on the Amiga,
also had a trashcan in 1985. Never used it though.

> If i want to delete things I want them gone.

Exactly.

I hide the icon if the setup allows.
--
Andreas

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:27:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> On 13/04/2023 16:53, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 13.04.23 um 13:56 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>>>
>>> I agree. I got sick of finding .Trash-1000 being created in the root of
>>> every partition.
>>>
>>> Its an artefact of many file managers that clicking the delete button
>>> moves them (higlighted files) to the 'trash'.
>>>
>>> I think it goes back to MAC/OS9, and got copied by micro$oft. And so
>>> people decided that linux noobs needed it .

OS9 [of MAC; there exists a non-GUI OS called OS-9 from 1979 too] was
1999-ish, no? Because at least Windows 95 had a trash can MS cannot have
copied the idea.

>> Nonsense.
>>
> Well it is,
> I was just interested in where the 'trash bin' first appeared

Amiga OS 1.0 (1985)?
--
Andreas

On 4/13/23 5:56 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:27:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> On 13/04/2023 16:53, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 13.04.23 um 13:56 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>>>>
>>>> I agree. I got sick of finding .Trash-1000 being created in the root of
>>>> every partition.
>>>>
>>>> Its an artefact of many file managers that clicking the delete button
>>>> moves them (higlighted files) to the 'trash'.
>>>>
>>>> I think it goes back to MAC/OS9, and got copied by micro$oft. And so
>>>> people decided that linux noobs needed it .
>
> OS9 [of MAC; there exists a non-GUI OS called OS-9 from 1979 too] was
> 1999-ish, no? Because at least Windows 95 had a trash can MS cannot have
> copied the idea.
>
>>> Nonsense.
>>>
>> Well it is,
>> I was just interested in where the 'trash bin' first appeared
>
> Amiga OS 1.0 (1985)?

It was also in a C-64 "GEOS" gui desktop in '85 :

http://toastytech.com/guis/c64gabout.gif

bottom-right corner.

Likely GEOS influenced Amiga development or vice-versa

As for the OP ... has he tried right-clicking on the desktop
and checking the options to see if he's un-checked the "Show
Trashcan" ?

On 4/13/23 5:56 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:27:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> On 13/04/2023 16:53, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 13.04.23 um 13:56 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
>>>>
>>>> I agree. I got sick of finding .Trash-1000 being created in the root of
>>>> every partition.
>>>>
>>>> Its an artefact of many file managers that clicking the delete button
>>>> moves them (higlighted files) to the 'trash'.
>>>>
>>>> I think it goes back to MAC/OS9, and got copied by micro$oft. And so
>>>> people decided that linux noobs needed it .
>
> OS9 [of MAC; there exists a non-GUI OS called OS-9 from 1979 too] was
> 1999-ish, no? Because at least Windows 95 had a trash can MS cannot have
> copied the idea.

Oh ... "OS-9", the '9' for M6809, is still sold for
embedded systems. It is a RTOS and somewhat Unix-ish,
except a LOT more compact/fast/efficient. It has
always been multi-user/multi-tasking. Originally
contracted by Motorola, but it spread from there.

https://www.microsys.de/en/products/software/os-9/

Apparently MicroSys bought into it from MicroWare.

https://www.microware.com/index.php?view=article&id=1:microware-os-9&catid=2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-9

It is now ported to a bunch of different chips
including ARM and x86. I *think* there's a PI
compatible version ... but it's payware, not free.

I've oft wondered if it could be expanded into a
general-purpose system for PCs that might rival
Unix/Linux.

I fooled with it a bit back in the day on an RS Color
Computer and it was certainly different from all the
other PC stuff out there.

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:45:41 -0400, 26B.X929 wrote:
>
> On 4/13/23 5:56 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:27:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>>> Well it is,
>>> I was just interested in where the 'trash bin' first appeared
>> Amiga OS 1.0 (1985)?
>
> It was also in a C-64 "GEOS" gui desktop in '85 :
>
> http://toastytech.com/guis/c64gabout.gif
>
> bottom-right corner.

Wow, 1985? Wikipedia lists 1986.

| GEOS (Graphic Environment Operating System) is a discontinued
| operating system from Berkeley Softworks (later
| GeoWorks). Originally designed for the Commodore 64 with its version
| being released in 1986, enhanced versions of GEOS later became
| available in 1987 for the Commodore 128 and in 1988 for the Apple II
| series of computers.

Hear hear, Apple! :-D

> Likely GEOS influenced Amiga development or vice-versa

Looks more like a Mac OS rip off.

Reason was I suppose to give the aging Commodore 64 new life. GUIs
finally showed up and the way into the future.
--
Andreas

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 23:15:20 -0400, 26B.X929 wrote:
>
> On 4/13/23 5:56 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> OS9 [of MAC; there exists a non-GUI OS called OS-9 from 1979 too]
>> was
>> 1999-ish, no? Because at least Windows 95 had a trash can MS cannot have
>> copied the idea.
>
> Oh ... "OS-9", the '9' for M6809, is still sold for
> embedded systems. It is a RTOS and somewhat Unix-ish,
> except a LOT more compact/fast/efficient. It has
> always been multi-user/multi-tasking. Originally
> contracted by Motorola, but it spread from there.

Yes, that. Was probably the first multitasking OS (in 1979) seeing a wide
spread among micro computers ("home computers").

I ran it in an emulator simulating the TRS CoCo to try it out.

Eventually wrote a small article on
<https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/2018/02/os-9-forgotten-operating-system.html>,
which also has a video I made running it in an emulator to show its
multitasking.

[...]

> I fooled with it a bit back in the day on an RS Color
> Computer and it was certainly different from all the
> other PC stuff out there.

It was certainly in garish green. :-D
--
Andreas

Am 13.04.23 um 23:56 schrieb Andreas Kohlbach:
> Because at least Windows 95 had a trash can MS cannot have
> copied the idea.

The first instance I encountered the "Trash Bin". At least as far as I
can remember.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

On 13.04.2023 04.40, stepore wrote:
> On 4/11/23 07:18, db wrote:
>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>
> I don't understand the need nor use of "trash". I've never once used
> one. Ever.
> If i want to delete things I want them gone.
>
> If you think you may need filse but are not sure, then leave them alone.
> Delete them properly when they're no longer needed.
>
> But what do you find in:
> ~/.local/share/Trash

That's where I finally found the erased folders, and was able to
regenerate the trash on the Desktop, as well as those folders.

You must use the trash, when you wipe files, and it empties itself
automatically when it gets too full. I use it, when I'm in GUI,
dragging files into it. On the console, I use rm.
--
Dieter Britz

On 2023-04-13 23:53, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 19:40:55 -0700, stepore wrote:
>>
>> On 4/11/23 07:18, db wrote:
>>> I work with Kubuntu 22.04.
>>> I deleted a file on the Desktop, all folders disappeared from the
>>> Desktop, including the trash can (waste basket). I can regenerate
>>> all the other folders, but how do I get the trash can back? I don't
>>> have nautilus or gconf. It must still be there because when I did
>>> a delete, the system said that the file was put into the trash.
>>
>> I don't understand the need nor use of "trash". I've never once used
>> one. Ever.
>
> Already thought on my Windows 95 installation why it is there. Also
> tried to move "My Computer" into the trashcan. But wasn't allowed. :-D
>
> Hmm, thinking further back, my first GUI desktop, Workbench on the Amiga,
> also had a trashcan in 1985. Never used it though.
>
>> If i want to delete things I want them gone.
>
> Exactly.
>
> I hide the icon if the setup allows.

Hiding the icon is worse. When you delete things, they go to the
trashcan, which you may find later. Like why can't I copy this movie to
the USB stick if I just deleted another movie.

If one sees the trash can, one remembers.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 4/13/23 21:49, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 23:15:20 -0400, 26B.X929 wrote:
>>
>> On 4/13/23 5:56 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>
>>> OS9 [of MAC; there exists a non-GUI OS called OS-9 from 1979 too]
>>> was
>>> 1999-ish, no? Because at least Windows 95 had a trash can MS cannot have
>>> copied the idea.
>>
>> Oh ... "OS-9", the '9' for M6809, is still sold for
>> embedded systems. It is a RTOS and somewhat Unix-ish,
>> except a LOT more compact/fast/efficient. It has
>> always been multi-user/multi-tasking. Originally
>> contracted by Motorola, but it spread from there.
>
> Yes, that. Was probably the first multitasking OS (in 1979) seeing a wide
> spread among micro computers ("home computers").
>
> I ran it in an emulator simulating the TRS CoCo to try it out.
>
> Eventually wrote a small article on
> <https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/2018/02/os-9-forgotten-operating-system.html>,
> which also has a video I made running it in an emulator to show its
> multitasking.
>
> [...]
>
>> I fooled with it a bit back in the day on an RS Color
>> Computer and it was certainly different from all the
>> other PC stuff out there.
>
> It was certainly in garish green. :-D

Everyone seems to forget Xerox PARC and the work done there but
1981 they had a Trashcan on the Xerox Star. The computer box and
display sat on top of a ventilated metal cabinet that housed the
Disk. Found it by searching on illustrations of Xerox display as at:
<https://aresluna.org/attached/pics/usability/articles/biurkonaekranie/xerox.big.png>

Steve B. talked about the Xerox work with an employee then
went and looked at it for himself and signed an agreement with Xerox to
use elements of their GUI. A bit later he hired away some of PARC
more useful employee

I don't have a Trashcan on my KDE Plasma 5.27.4 desktop.
I do not use Trash much. Mostly I use Delete which is a
front for "rm".

bliss - on the ever-faithful Dell Latitude E7450, PCLinuxOS 2023
KDE Plasma 5.27.4 Kernel Version: 6.2.11 pclos1 (64-bit)
KDE Frameworks 5.104.0 - Qt Version: 5.15.6
Graphics : X11 - Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 5500
15.5 GiB of RAM C9PU 4 × Intel® Core™ i7-5600U CPU @ 2.60GHz
Actually 2 real cores and 2 virtual cores.
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I had one grunch but the eggplant over there...

Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> Everyone seems to forget Xerox PARC and the work done there but
> 1981 they had a Trashcan on the Xerox Star. The computer box and
> display sat on top of a ventilated metal cabinet that housed the
> Disk. Found it by searching on illustrations of Xerox display as at:
> <https://aresluna.org/attached/pics/usability/articles/biurkonaekranie/xerox.big.png>

PARC was most likely the earliest use of a 'trashcan' -- and as the
Apple Lisa was created as a 'clone' of what Jobs saw during his tour of
PARC, the Lisa/Mac inherited its trashcan from the PARC.