Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
> Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >>> You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the others do.
> >>
> >> you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
> >
> > You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when it's not.
>
> As always, nospam is correct and you whining kiddie trolls are, well,
> whining kiddie trolls. AGAIN.
>
> <https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
>
> I have no desire to try this, but yt-dlp clearly works on iOS. If any of
> you kiddies would bother to search for it, this thread could have ended
> centuries ago.

Hmmm!? Interesting.

But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps can
only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?

With a-Shell all kinds of potentially dangerous stuff could be
installed on an iOS device.

Of course these would not be 'normal' iOS apps and the average iOS
user is not really at risk, because (s)he is unlikely to install stuff
that way, but the same goes for the average Android user.

So it seems that this 'safe' App Store isn't as safe as some/most of
You Guys (TM) claim it is.

[Repeat:]

FWIW, I don't really care one way or the other. I'm only interested in
information, not in zealotry/'hate'. I just use what suits *my* needs
(and price range) best, have family/friends who are quite happy with
their Apple products (and I can see why) and I 'even' own an Apple
product, so there you go! :-)

[...]

On 2023-06-24, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
>> Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the
>>>>> others do.
>>>>
>>>> you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
>>>
>>> You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when
>>> it's not.
>>
>> As always, nospam is correct and you whining kiddie trolls are, well,
>> whining kiddie trolls. AGAIN.
>>
>> <https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
>>
>> I have no desire to try this, but yt-dlp clearly works on iOS. If
>> any of you kiddies would bother to search for it, this thread could
>> have ended centuries ago.
>
> Hmmm!? Interesting.
>
> But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
> many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps
> can only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?

Nope. The a-Shell app is from the App Store, and yt-dlp runs inside of
its sandbox.

> With a-Shell all kinds of potentially dangerous stuff could be
> installed on an iOS device.

The app is sandboxed like any other. The installed software stays in the
app's sandbox, naturally.

> So it seems that this 'safe' App Store isn't as safe as some/most of
> You Guys (TM) claim it is.

Wrong.

> I'm only interested in disinformation

FTFY

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2023-06-24, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> > Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
> >> Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the
> >>>>> others do.
> >>>>
> >>>> you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
> >>>
> >>> You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when
> >>> it's not.
> >>
> >> As always, nospam is correct and you whining kiddie trolls are, well,
> >> whining kiddie trolls. AGAIN.
> >>
> >> <https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
> >>
> >> I have no desire to try this, but yt-dlp clearly works on iOS. If
> >> any of you kiddies would bother to search for it, this thread could
> >> have ended centuries ago.
> >
> > Hmmm!? Interesting.
> >
> > But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
> > many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps
> > can only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?
>
> Nope. The a-Shell app is from the App Store, and yt-dlp runs inside of
> its sandbox.

Sigh! 'security' and 'safe' is not just about a sandbox.

You Guys (TM) have been harping about the unwanted behaviour of the
very example app (yt-dlp). So the 'safe' App Store allows people,
running iOS devices, to violate the ToS of Google's services, while
Google pays Apple loads of money for the privilege of having their
search engine on Apple's platform.

And *if* the sandbox is all that's needed , then why all the hoopla of
only allowing apps installed from the App Store? Can't have your cake
and eat it too.

> > With a-Shell all kinds of potentially dangerous stuff could be
> > installed on an iOS device.
>
> The app is sandboxed like any other. The installed software stays in the
> app's sandbox, naturally.
>
> > So it seems that this 'safe' App Store isn't as safe as some/most of
> > You Guys (TM) claim it is.

[Pathetic 'convenient' selective silent snipping deleted. Grow up, will
you?]

On 2023-06-24, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> [Disclaimer: Yes gran. I know, I know.]
>
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-06-24, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>> > Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
>> >> Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You will never run out of excuses for why iOS can't do what the
>> >>>>> others do.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> you will never stop lying. there are no excuses.
>> >>>
>> >>> You're the one who told Carlos that yt-dlp was ported to iOS when
>> >>> it's not.
>> >>
>> >> As always, nospam is correct and you whining kiddie trolls are,
>> >> well, whining kiddie trolls. AGAIN.
>> >>
>> >> <https://github.com/tucomel/yt-dlp-ios#readme>
>> >>
>> >> I have no desire to try this, but yt-dlp clearly works on iOS. If
>> >> any of you kiddies would bother to search for it, this thread
>> >> could have ended centuries ago.
>> >
>> > Hmmm!? Interesting.
>> >
>> > But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
>> > many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps
>> > can only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?
>>
>> Nope. The a-Shell app is from the App Store, and yt-dlp runs inside
>> of its sandbox.
>
> Sigh! 'security' and 'safe' is not just about a sandbox.

Never said it was, but nothing escapes the app's sandbox. And the point
is we can run yt-dlp on iOS just fine - something you assholes joyfully
claimed is impossible just yesterday, which is on record. And you
*desperately* want to distract from that fact, don't you? Hence your
sudden "concern" for security. 🙂

> [Pathetic 'convenient' selective silent snipping deleted. Grow up,
> will you?]

Projection.

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Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
> many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps can
> only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?

You have noticed each of their excuses contradicts their next excuse.

On 2023-06-24, Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
>> many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps
>> can only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?
>
> You have noticed each of their excuses contradicts their next excuse.

We've all noticed that both of you are so *desperate* to ignore the FACT
that iOS can download YouTube videos with yt-dlp like all of the other
platforms that you are trying to change the topic to *anything* else.
Your lame trolls are *transparent*. Cope more. 🤣

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Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> And *if* the sandbox is all that's needed , then why all the hoopla of
> only allowing apps installed from the App Store? Can't have your cake
> and eat it too.

There is only one reason why iOS can't do what every other system does.
Walled Garden.

For command-line-only tasks, they may be able to run a shell clusterfuck.

However, that untested iOS shell clusterfuck won't work for everything.
For example, the walled garden doesn't allow the Tor Project Browser in it.

On 2023-06-24, Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> And *if* the sandbox is all that's needed , then why all the hoopla
>> of only allowing apps installed from the App Store? Can't have your
>> cake and eat it too.
>
> There is only one reason why iOS can't do what every other system
> does. Walled Garden.

As expected, you bozos are desperately clinging to the same, old, tired
lines because you literally have nothing else. 🤣

> For command-line-only tasks, they may be able to run a shell
> clusterfuck.

Yes, shells are "clusterfucks", y'all. Pay no mind that these bozos have
been discussing command-line tools (yt-dlp) for literal *days* right
here in this very thread without accusing them to be "clusterfucks". No,
see, it's not until someone opens a shell on iOS (GASP) that it
magically becomes a clusterfuck. 🤡

> However, that untested iOS shell clusterfuck

So untested, y'all:

<https://share.vidyard.com/watch/PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?>

Oh, my!! 🤣

> won't work for everything

More desperation. 🤣

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2023-06-24, Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
>>> many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps
>>> can only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?
>>
>> You have noticed each of their excuses contradicts their next excuse.
>
> We've all noticed that both of you are so *desperate* to ignore the FACT
> that iOS can download YouTube videos with yt-dlp like all of the other
> platforms that you are trying to change the topic to *anything* else.
> Your lame trolls are *transparent*. Cope more. 🤣

Digging the hole deeper is clearly how he copes.

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
>>> many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps
>>> can only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?
>>
>> You have noticed each of their excuses contradicts their next excuse.
>
> We've all noticed that both of you are so *desperate* to ignore the FACT
> that iOS can download YouTube videos with yt-dlp like all of the other
> platforms that you are trying to change the topic to *anything* else.
> Your lame trolls are *transparent*. Cope more.

First off, we don't care that iOS can't do what all other systems do.
We don't even own iOS devices (although we both have family who do).

It's _you_ who seems to have your panties all balled up about this.
You are so upset that you've been lying about iOS this entire thread.

How do we know that your suggested iOS command-line clusterfuck even works?

For example, can you get that clusterfuck to work on your own iOS device?
Assuming you're a technically competent person, why don't you prove it.

I very strongly doubt your suggested classic Apple clusterfuck works.
But the proof will be a screenshot of it working on your iOS system

Which you will likely never provide.
Because that clusterfuck likely does not work.
And because you appear to lack the technical skills to make it work.

But even if it does work for this one case out of thousands on your system,
it still won't work for the thousands upon thousands of other useful
capabilities iOS lacks (which all other systems, except iOS, easily do).

For example, how are you going to run the Tor Project browser in it?

On 2023-06-24, Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But doesn't this also invalidate the 'security' feature which
>>>> many/most of You Guys (TM) have been harping about, that iOS apps
>>>> can only be installed from the 'safe' App Store?
>>>
>>> You have noticed each of their excuses contradicts their next
>>> excuse.
>>
>> We've all noticed that both of you are so *desperate* to ignore the
>> FACT that iOS can download YouTube videos with yt-dlp like all of the
>> other platforms that you are trying to change the topic to *anything*
>> else. Your lame trolls are *transparent*. Cope more.
>
> First off, we don't care that iOS can't do what all other systems do.

Just keep repeating that tired, old line to yourself to keep the
boogeyman away, Shorty. Sleep tight! 🤣

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Jolly Roger wrote on 24.06.2023 18:16
> As expected, you bozos are desperately clinging to the same, old, tired
> lines because you literally have nothing else.

If we assume you're technically competent, you'll show us a screenshot,
within the next half hour or so, of the clusterfuck working on your device.

On 2023-06-24, Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>
> For example, can you get that clusterfuck to work on your own iOS
> device? Assuming you're a technically competent person, why don't you
> prove it.
>
> I very strongly doubt your suggested classic Apple clusterfuck works.
> But the proof will be a screenshot of it working on your iOS system
>
> Which you will likely never provide.

I already did, dumb ass:

<https://share.vidyard.com/watch/PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?>

You should change your email address to
perpetually-confused@nospam.co.uk... 🤣

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Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
> Digging the hole deeper is clearly how he copes.

If we assume you're technically competent, you'll show us a screenshot,
within the next half hour or so, of the clusterfuck working on your device.

On 2023-06-24, Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 24.06.2023 18:16
>> As expected, you bozos are desperately clinging to the same, old,
>> tired lines because you literally have nothing else.
>
> If we assume you're technically competent, you'll show us a
> screenshot, within the next half hour or so, of the clusterfuck
> working on your device.

Already provided a screen *recording* of it yesterday, kiddo. Try to
keep up. 🤣

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Don't you children ever get tired of always being wrong?
>
> they clearly don't.

If we assume you're technically competent, you'll upload a screenshot,
within the next half hour or so, of the clusterfuck working on your device.

On 2023-06-24, Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Don't you children ever get tired of always being wrong?
>>
>> they clearly don't.
>
> If we assume you're technically competent, you'll upload a screenshot,
> within the next half hour or so, of the clusterfuck working on your device.

You just gonna keep repeating this even though a screen recording has
already been posted, bozo? 🤣

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> Already provided a screen *recording* of it yesterday, kiddo.

Where is the link to that screen recording please?

> Try to keep up.

No. You keep up. You're who is claiming iOS can do what it can't do.

Upload a recording of the Tor Browser working in that same clusterfuck.

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> I very strongly doubt your suggested classic Apple clusterfuck works.
>> But the proof will be a screenshot of it working on your iOS system
>>
>> Which you will likely never provide.
>
> I already did, dumb ass:
>
> <https://share.vidyard.com/watch/PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?>

Classic upload site for an iOS user who doesn't have a clue about privacy.

For privacy reasons, I have neither a Google nor Microsoft Account so that
Vidyard site is unavailable. Please upload it to a share site which does
not require a login account on that site just to view a video you uploaded.

Even so, there are thousands upon thousands of very useful things (like
privacy) which are impossible on iOS so I will look to see if your iOS
clusterfuck shows that the Tor Project level of privacy is possible on iOS.

Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
> Game over troll kiddies.

There are thousands upon thousands of useful applications which run on all
the other operating systems except for iOS (because of the walled garden).

For example, thousands of GUI-based apps run on everything except on iOS.

For one, where is the Tor Browser running in that iOS shell clusterfuck?

On 2023-06-24 13:39, Peter wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Already provided a screen *recording* of it yesterday, kiddo.
>
> Where is the link to that screen recording please?
>
>> Try to keep up.
>
> No. You keep up. You're who is claiming iOS can do what it can't do.
>
> Upload a recording of the Tor Browser working in that same clusterfuck.

He did. Were you asleep?

--
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-Ronald Coase

On 2023-06-24, Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I very strongly doubt your suggested classic Apple clusterfuck
>>> works. But the proof will be a screenshot of it working on your iOS
>>> system
>>>
>>> Which you will likely never provide.
>>
>> I already did, dumb ass:
>>
>> <https://share.vidyard.com/watch/PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?>
>
> Classic upload site for an iOS user who doesn't have a clue about
> privacy.

Now you're attacking the website out of pure desperation! 🤣

> For privacy reasons, I have neither a Google nor Microsoft Account

No login is required to watch the video I posted, numbskull.

> so that Vidyard site is unavailable.

Are you seriously this fucking dumb? It plays just fine with *no* login.
🤣

> Please upload it to a share site which does not require a login
> account on that site just to view a video you uploaded.

Vidyard doesn't require a login. You are just looking for any possible
excuse to disregard the video you asked for. 🤡

> Even so, blah blah blah blah blah

You're an idiot, loser.

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On 2023-06-24, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2023-06-24 13:39, Peter wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> Already provided a screen *recording* of it yesterday, kiddo.
>>
>> Where is the link to that screen recording please?
>>
>>> Try to keep up.
>>
>> No. You keep up. You're who is claiming iOS can do what it can't do.
>>
>> Upload a recording of the Tor Browser working in that same
>> clusterfuck.
>
> He did. Were you asleep?

More like burying his fool head in the sand. 🤣

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Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote

>> <https://share.vidyard.com/watch/PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?>
>
> Classic upload site for an iOS user who doesn't have a clue about privacy.

The yt-dlp.exe on Windows had no problem downloading that restricted video.

> For privacy reasons, I have neither a Google nor Microsoft Account so that
> Vidyard site is unavailable. Please upload it to a share site which does
> not require a login account on that site just to view a video you uploaded.

You can run this on a VPN so that the download is not tied to your IP address.

yt-dlp https://share.vidyard.com/watch/PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?
[generic] Extracting URL: https://share.vidyard.com/watch/PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?
[generic] PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?: Downloading webpage
WARNING: [generic] Falling back on generic information extractor
[generic] PkEXT3ij2bc6VJTh6utPk9?: Extracting information
[info] sd: Downloading 1 format(s): 0
[download] Resuming download at byte 12727749
[download] Destination: yt-dlp-ios [sd].mp4
[download] 100% of 13.94MiB in 00:00:01 at 13.60MiB/s

> Even so, there are thousands upon thousands of very useful things (like
> privacy) which are impossible on iOS so I will look to see if your iOS
> clusterfuck shows that the Tor Project level of privacy is possible on iOS.

All the platforms (except iOS) have both interface types (GUI & cmd) to yt-dlp.

I doubt the iOS shell can bring up any graphical application but you'd need
to ask the iOS users to show that iOS shell can also run a graphical application.

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> Where is the link to that screen recording please?
>>>
>>>> Try to keep up.
>>>
>>> No. You keep up. You're who is claiming iOS can do what it can't do.
>>>
>>> Upload a recording of the Tor Browser working in that same
>>> clusterfuck.
>>
>> He did. Were you asleep?
>
> More like burying his fool head in the sand.

What you are ignoring is there are thousands of things iOS can't do
(that every other operating system has no problem doing - except iOS).

I watched the video using the graphical interface on Android and Windows
to the youtube downloaders (which didn't ask me for any login account).

You found a clusterfuck which works for _one_ (and only one!) of those.

Meanwhile, everyone else on all other platforms brings up the graphical
user interface that only iOS lacks, and they can bring up the Tor Browser.

You've found a workaround to one of the many thousands of things that
everyone else does quite easily on all other platforms except on iOS.

As I said, there are thousands upon thousands of useful things that you iOS
weirdos are going to have to come up with a clusterfuck for each of them.

Where is a graphical user interface to the youtube downloader shown in that
iOS video (which, let's be very clear about - exists on all other systems)?