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* PowerbaseChris Newman
+- Re: PowerbaseChris Newman
+* Re: PowerbaseT M Smith
|+* Re: PowerbaseChris Newman
||+- Re: PowerbaseBrian Howlett
||`* Re: PowerbaseChris Hughes
|| `* Re: PowerbaseStuart
||  `* Re: PowerbaseSteve Fryatt
||   +- Re: PowerbaseJean-Michel
||   +- Re: PowerbaseStuart
||   +* Re: PowerbaseChris Hughes
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||   `* Re: PowerbaseMetallic
||    `- Re: PowerbaseChris Newman
|+* Re: PowerbaseMatthew Phillips
||`- Re: PowerbaseChris Newman
|`* Re: PowerbaseHarriet Bazley
| +- Re: PowerbaseHarriet Bazley
| `* Re: PowerbaseMartin
|  +* Re: PowerbaseHarriet Bazley
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|  | `* Re: PowerbaseHarriet Bazley
|  |  `* Re: PowerbaseChris Hughes
|  |   `* Re: PowerbaseHarriet Bazley
|  |    +* Re: PowerbaseChris Hughes
|  |    |+- Re: PowerbaseKevin Wells
|  |    |`- Re: PowerbaseHarriet Bazley
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|  `* Re: PowerbaseChris Newman
|   `* Re: PowerbaseHarriet Bazley
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Re: Powerbase

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Subject: Re: Powerbase
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 by: Martin - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 22:50 UTC

In article <1ee0d3cf59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
> Martin wrote:

> > Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' -
> > are the other unchanged fields updated if another window is
> > dragged across them? What version of PB is that?
> >

> Oh, I hadn't tried that - yes, forcing a window redraw does update
> the fields correctly!

> Powerbase 10.32DA on ARMX6.

What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?

--
Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

Re: Powerbase

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 by: Harriet Bazley - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 08:31 UTC

On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Martin wrote:

> In article <1ee0d3cf59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
> > Martin wrote:
>
> > > Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' -
> > > are the other unchanged fields updated if another window is
> > > dragged across them? What version of PB is that?
> > >
>
> > Oh, I hadn't tried that - yes, forcing a window redraw does update
> > the fields correctly!
>
> > Powerbase 10.32DA on ARMX6.
>
> What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
>

It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

Life, don't talk to me about life....

Re: Powerbase

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 by: Chris Hughes - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 10:32 UTC

In message <ec0c2ad059.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
> Martin wrote:

>> In article <1ee0d3cf59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
>> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
>>> Martin wrote:
>>
>>>> Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' -
>>>> are the other unchanged fields updated if another window is
>>>> dragged across them? What version of PB is that?
>>>>
>>
>>> Oh, I hadn't tried that - yes, forcing a window redraw does update
>>> the fields correctly!
>>
>>> Powerbase 10.32DA on ARMX6.
>>
>> What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
>>

> It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
> 2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.

Thats an old OS version for the ARMX6, its now on 5.29 (1 Feb 2022),

--
Chris Hughes
Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have move to
Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

Re: Powerbase

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 by: Harriet Bazley - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 12:10 UTC

On 28 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Chris Hughes wrote:

> In message <ec0c2ad059.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
> > Martin wrote:

> >> What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
> >>
>
> > It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
> > 2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.
>
> Thats an old OS version for the ARMX6, its now on 5.29 (1 Feb 2022),
>
I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life and
wouldn't know where to start....

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

Oregano: The ancient Italian art of pizza folding.

Re: Powerbase

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 by: Chris Hughes - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 12:49 UTC

In message <f6223ed059.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> On 28 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
> Chris Hughes wrote:

>> In message <ec0c2ad059.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
>> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
>>> Martin wrote:

>>>> What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
>>>>
>>
>>> It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
>>> 2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.
>>
>> Thats an old OS version for the ARMX6, its now on 5.29 (1 Feb 2022),
>>
> I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life and
> wouldn't know where to start....

Its not a ROM re-flash. R-Comp provide a simple upgarde program that does
all the work for you and also gives you the option to roll back to the
previous version if you wish.

You download the update from the secure download site they provided the
details in the booklet that came with your computer.

Open the ZIP file, copy the installer on to your drive and then run it.
This installs the new version of the OS (shows you what its doing). The
window with the upgrade button also gives you a summary of the changes
since the previous update, etc..

Once its installed it will advise you to reboot and thats it, your using
the new OS version.

--
Chris Hughes
Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have move to
Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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 by: News - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 13:27 UTC

In article <f6223ed059.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life
> and wouldn't know where to start....

There is no ROM reflash - everything is on SD card and/or SSD.

Download the latest OS and Harddrive4 zips from the R-Comp site (I
think you have an ARMX6?) and run the supplied !Install utility.
Simples.

--
Chris Johnson

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 by: Kevin Wells - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 14:45 UTC

In message <d1ad41d059.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <f6223ed059.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 28 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
>> Chris Hughes wrote:
>
>>> In message <ec0c2ad059.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
>>> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
>>>> Martin wrote:
>
>>>>> What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
>>>> 2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.
>>>
>>> Thats an old OS version for the ARMX6, its now on 5.29 (1 Feb 2022),
>>>
>> I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life and
>> wouldn't know where to start....
>
>Its not a ROM re-flash. R-Comp provide a simple upgarde program that does
>all the work for you and also gives you the option to roll back to the
>previous version if you wish.
>
>You download the update from the secure download site they provided the
>details in the booklet that came with your computer.

There is also a PDF version of it in the Documents directory called
Welcome/pdf
>
>
[snip]

>

--
Kev Wells
http://kevsoft.co.uk/ https://ko-fi.com/kevsoft
carpe cervisium
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.

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 by: Harriet Bazley - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:01 UTC

On 28 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Chris Hughes wrote:

> In message <f6223ed059.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> > I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life and
> > wouldn't know where to start....
>
> Its not a ROM re-flash. R-Comp provide a simple upgarde program that does
> all the work for you and also gives you the option to roll back to the
> previous version if you wish.
>
> You download the update from the secure download site they provided the
> details in the booklet that came with your computer.
>
OK, I downloaded and ran what appeared to be the relevant version
(IMX6_OSupg20). I also spent forever downloading the 'Stuff Pack 12',
but on reading the innards of that it doesn't appear to have been
updated since Spring 2018, well before my computer was sent out - doing
the version check on ChangeFSI as suggested reports that I already have
the latest copy. So I haven't attempted to use that, especially since
my preferred hard disc layout is different to that of the default
supplied version (I'm *still* moving things to more logical positions
where I can find them, even after two years on the new OS!)

But I ran the OS upgrade program, and after rebooting it now reports
RISC OS 5.29 (01 Feb 22) and Window Manager 5.84 (29 Dec 2021). It
hasn't cured the original redraw problem in Powerbase, though. :-(

An interesting further observation (re Powerbase) is that if I create a
report and then jump to a specific record by double-clicking on the
report window, then the field I double-clicked on *does* get updated
correctly, in addition to the main index field (which is the only one
updated when you use Go To Next/Previous Record). But none of the
other fields in the record are redrawn.

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

A closed mouth gathers no foot.

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 by: Brian Jordan - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 11:06 UTC

In article <59c8c257b2cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> Hi,

> Does anyone use !Powerbase (by Derek Haslam) on RISC OS 5.28?

> It works perfectly until I try to make a Report, the resulting file is
> truncated or garbled.

> Once I've used it on R5, if I transfer the database to my Virtual Acorn
> 4.39 it still grabled.

> Has anyone seen this?

I have been following this thread from the start and although I have yet
to see the problem with reporting I have found an issue which occurs in
version 10.32DA (28-11-2021) and not version 9.85DA (08-07-2012).

I haven't used Powerbase in some years and thought I'd revisit it out of
interest. I started by working through a tutorial which requires one to
use a supplied database (!Elements). It falls over, in 10.32DA, when
trying to add a record with "Message from Powerbase Corrupt PrimaryKey
file! Next 'free' record (#103) is actually in use and continuing would
overwrite it at 10997 (Powerbase must quit at once)"

This doesn't happen in the older version of Powerbase and I wonder if
this (and maybe the reporting problem) occurs when opening databases
created in older versions of Powerbase in the latest version?

--
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Brian Jordan
RISC OS 5.28 (16-Dec-20) on Raspberry Pi
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 by: Chris Newman - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:06 UTC

In article <59cfcd5d42News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <2594bece59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 14 Mar 2022 as I do recall, T M Smith wrote:

> > > I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer
> > > works as previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam
> > > but he cannot find the cause of the problem. I am using an Armx6
> > > and Riscos 5.29. My problem is that a record seems to behave as a
> > > number of separate fields rather than a complete record. Maybe
> > > the problem is caused by some other program on my computer?!!

> > I haven't used Powerbase for a long time, but while there seem to
> > be some odd issues in using the latest version of the program on
> > ARMX6 (e.g. using the 'next record' button only updates Field 1,
> > with the data displayed in the other fields remaining the same),
> > making a Report was one feature that on testing did seem to
> > function as expected...

> I have been in touch with Chris N (who made the top post), and Derek H
> (developer) and I believe the initial problem is identified.

> I am unclear from Malcolm S what his problem is.

> Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' - are
> the other unchanged fields updated if another window is dragged across
> them? What version of PB is that?

GOOD NEWS. There is now a new version of Powerbase to download.

http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/pbase/zips.htm

Thanks to Martin's input, Derek has produced v.10.41 (07-04-22) which
fixes not only my problem with corrupted reports but also a number of
other problems which seem to be associated with the most recent versions
of the window manager.

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Harriet Bazley - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:49 UTC

On 10 Apr 2022 as I do recall,
Chris Newman wrote:

[snip]

>
> GOOD NEWS. There is now a new version of Powerbase to download.
>
> http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/pbase/zips.htm
>
> Thanks to Martin's input, Derek has produced v.10.41 (07-04-22) which
> fixes not only my problem with corrupted reports but also a number of
> other problems which seem to be associated with the most recent versions
> of the window manager.
>
Great. I can confirm that I'm no longer seeing the 'next record' bug at
least.

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from

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 by: T M Smith - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:28 UTC

In message <c812eed659.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> On 10 Apr 2022 as I do recall,
> Chris Newman wrote:

> [snip]

>>
>> GOOD NEWS. There is now a new version of Powerbase to download.
>>
>> http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/pbase/zips.htm
>>
>> Thanks to Martin's input, Derek has produced v.10.41 (07-04-22) which
>> fixes not only my problem with corrupted reports but also a number of
>> other problems which seem to be associated with the most recent versions
>> of the window manager.
>>
> Great. I can confirm that I'm no longer seeing the 'next record' bug at
> least.
Me as well, Thanks very much for the update.
Malcolm Smith

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T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.29 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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