In article <0e22a6ce652e5e6408c9cf9275d28549@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202308.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>
> In article
> <1be7028bf91d0a7394f1dacd42c37f83@remailer.paranoici.org>
> Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hmmm. Have you downloaded and installed Tor?
> > > <https://www.torproject.org/download/>
> > >
> > > To interface with Tor, QSL expects users to already have Tor running in the
> > > background.
> >
> > I am executing both Tor Browser and Omnimix, when I use QSL
> > using this template
> >
> > Fcc: outbox
> > Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
> > From: anonymous@anonymous.com
> > Chain: *,*; copies=2;
> > To: mail2news@dizum.com, mail2news@neodome.net
> > Newsgroups: alt.test
> > Subject: test
> >
> > having tor browser and omnimix in execution is it not sufficient?
>
> You need more modern software.
>
> http://frogadmin.chez.com/MyDownLoad.html

It seems the frog is back with his anti QSL/Christman possession.

Frog once ran a remailer. he made it a habit to read the messages
which came into his remailer when it was the entry one in the chain.
He published the emails of those he disliked. He did a lot more than
that, but that's past.

I copied some of the Web pages of the poster who took down the frog.
Here is just the entry of the first post.
=======================
This post, however, shows once again that you, frog-admin, are a
danger to the remailer network, and I came to the conclusion that
that danger is bigger than the danger of fragmentation."

- Christian Mock (Austria remop)

Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/k9ap

NEWSFLASH:
Frog Screws Up! Reveals his true Identity while trolling apas!

July-2003

The post "PUT RICHARD CHRISTMAN BEHIND BARS" which
appeared in apas lately was the final straw for me in this
Frog/Script-Kiddie/Christman/Sassaman/Palfrader,
ad nauseaum, crap.

I've had it with the voluminous and unending bullshit
that has simply been made up on the spot and propagated
in alt.privacy.anon.server as if it were factual history.

I think all, especially the newer members of apas, need
to review the history of this battle. All will see that
it is more than just a matter of a grudge match between
Richard Christman and Frog. It is a struggle by Frog to
dominate the remailer scene and to crush all other remops
who disagree with him.

And the above is working to a degree with those users who
cannot see past his extravagantly and well done Stat pages.
These pages might make life easier for his adherents, but his
actions in apas are threatening the security of everyone who
depends on the remailer system. As this is being written, he
is currently blocked by at least a dozen other remailer systems,
which reduces the security of those who still post through the
his system. A dozen missing servers and the permutations of their
paths missing from the chains of Frog users makes for much easier
traffic analysis and MUCH less security.

As I unearth these archived posts from Google, newcomers will
find out just who Sassaman, Palfrader, Christman and some other
of these mythical figures are. I use the term 'mythical' because
there is hardly a word of truth in the oral history as given about
them by Frog-Admin.

I might add that Frog has made sure he is using a different set of
keys for many of these older posts, so as to keep them from being
verified as his.

I am going to sign some of the pages with my own PGP signature.
Others cannot be signed without destroying the integrity of the
original signature.

My signing should guarantee that any screwing with the pages will
be detected.

Yes, this seems ridiculous, but no underhanded trick of
misrepresenting what someone has said or done - or NOT SAID, or
NOT DONE - is beneath Frog-Admin/SK. It's like dealing with the
grossest, lyingest p.o.s that reptilian evolution ever produced.

* bluejay at xxx dot com *

On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:42:49 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>It seems the frog is back

the frogman ran a great remailer while it lasted . . . "Frog is back":
>Path:...!news.bananasplit.info!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news
>From: Max Mustermann <anonymous@remail.amessage.info>
>Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> remailer administrator at <support@mail.amessage.info>.
>Subject: Frog is back
>Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
>Message-ID: <dc663333d9b68516ac3f49601a07f1ec@remail.amessage.info>
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 16:31:40 +0200
>Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com
>Organization: mail2news@dizum.com
>Lines: 21
>Xref: ... alt.privacy.anon-server:501692
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>After securing a medal for France in the '2004 olympics, the
>flamboyant Frog-Admin is back from Athens to the remailer business.
>Featuring stats and keyrings, a mail2news, and 2, no, 3 remailers:
>Frog: frogremailer@frogadmin.yi.org (France)
>Toro: tororemailer@toroadmin.yi.org (Spain)
>Shark: sharkremailer@sharkadmin.yi.org (Maldives)
>Rejoice...
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[end quote]

previously "Frog is back" . . .
>Message-ID: <7YUG1I6U37798.1121064815@Gilgamesh-frog.org>
>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Frog-Admin)
>Subject: Frog is back
>Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
>Organization: Happy Lobster & Partners
>X-Comment: In Case of Emergency, Flush the Toilet
>X-Mailer: JackB.Nymble Version 2.1
>Comments: This message probably did not originate from the above address.
> It was automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail services.
> You should NEVER trust ANY address on Usenet ANYWAYS: use PGP !!!
> Get information about complaints from the URL below
>X-Remailer-Contact: http://80.65.224.85/ In case my abuse address is unreachable: It is because it has been flooded by <mgg@uiuc.edu>, please contact <abuse@uiuc.edu>
>Date: 26 Jun 2003 02:42:39 +0200
>Lines: 78
>X-Mail2News-Contact: http://80.65.224.85/
>Path: news...!noc.nerim.net!Gilgamesh-frogadmin.yi.org!not-for-mail
>Xref: news.freenet.de alt.privacy.anon-server:214814
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Thanks to all those who dropped me a note for my 50th birthday.
>A *special* thank to the person who tipped me about
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrnbe7kcb.pfp.lusenet-200202%40valiant.palfrader.org&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
>The reference of such hard evidence will go where it belongs.
>The party took place in Alsace, and after all those days eating and drinking I am considering a strict diet for the next fortnight.
>Computer was not happy on its own (I did not know that "feelings" were implemented in Win2K) and stalled a few days after I left, for unknown reasons (there is a heat wave in western europe). I had decided to enjoy my party, and I had stayed away from any computer, so that I was not aware of any problem until I came back.
>I rebooted Gilgamesh Monday evening, and the various subsystems are now all functional (remailer, stats/keyrings, m2news, Thesaurus, MetaStats, Miscellaneous ...)
>(I did my homework of updating according to news)
>Enjoy
>WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>Frog Remailer WWW Page:
>index
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/
>Main with stats
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Main.html
>Finger Capabilities
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Finger.html
>All Pingers' Index
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Pingers/
>MetaStats
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/MetaStats/
>Browse into Frog Remailer Load Graphs
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/Browse.html
>DownLoads
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/MyDownLoad.html
>Modify Potatoware
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/PotatoX_Gen.html
>Thesaurus (remailer-xxx Data & Analysis)
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Thesaurus/
>Politiques FR
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Pol_FR.html
>Policies EN
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Pol_EN.html
>Trash
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Trash/
>Smile
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Sonrisas/
>Client Configurations for LES Dummies
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Configs/
>Technical Data
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Tek/
>WebToNews:
> https://frogadmin.yi.org/cgi-bin/dnewsweb.exe
>Frog's Support for News
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/News/
>Remailer Description RFC
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/RFC/
>Web Anonymous Remailer Interface (Mail/News)
> https://frogadmin.yi.org/WARI/
>Miscellaneous Functions
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/MISC/
>JBN2 QuickStart
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Configs/JBN2_Quick.html
>Survival Kit
> posted daily to APAS
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/SurvivalKit.txt
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[end quote]

earlier that same month "Frog Remailer Closed Forever" . . .
>Path: news...!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news
>From: Anonymous <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>
>Author-Address: nobody <AT> bikikii <DOT> ath <DOT> cx
>Date: 18 Jun 2003 10:05:40 -0000
>Message-ID: <ZOTUSKEE37790.2122685185@anonymous.poster>
>Subject: Frog Remailer Closed Forever
>Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.privacy,alt.usenet.kooks
>X-Comment: In Case of Emergency, Flush the Toilet
>Comments: This message did not originate from the address above.
> It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> remailer administrator at <abuse@bikikii.ath.cx>
>Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net
>Organization: mail2news@nym.alias.net
>Lines: 80
>Xref: news... alt.privacy.anon-server:214112 alt.privacy:99485 alt.usenet.kooks:439771
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Of course, the defamation campaign orchestrated by Sassaman and Palfrader is going on.
>I should have enforced the rule "3 times and you are out", and block them a *long* time ago.
>I should also have found the time to write the webpages detailing their actions, and also how I disposed of the 5 flooders I outed so far.
>And, of course, the Gardner case: a guy who floods an abuse address by sending a copy of *every* post he does not like, and also spams the upstreams, has no room teaching in an university, even an US one where sports is more important than intellect.
>I got no response so far from <abuse@uiuc.edu>: maybe Gardner is in bed with the football coach...
> So now, I close Frog. I have many reasons for this, but Frog is no more
> and will never be back. Fuck all you people.
>I have been back home for nearly 1 month now.
>_______________________________________________________________
>The floods against the remailer had morphed, then stopped.
>- -------------------------
>First, it was an attack against my bandwidth
> (number of messages)
>90 minutes after my first post
>| news:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=P3L5H15S37746.6381481482%40Gilgamesh-frog.org&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
>| Subject: [WARNING] Rot26-->Frog and Randseed-->Frog to broken within 48 hours
>| Date: 5 May 2003 15:21:03 +0200
>Frog has been subjected to a flood (up to the 45.000 msg/day range)
>
>Details can be seen here
>Browse into Frog Remailer Load Graphs
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/Browse.html
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030505.gif 11.648 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030506.gif 36.823 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030507.gif 18.235 msg (frogadmin.yi.org down)
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030508.gif 34.399 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030509.gif 41.525 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030510.gif 41.744 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030511.gif 39.791 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030512.gif 40.992 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030513.gif 36.499 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030514.gif 46 467 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030515.gif 37.649 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030516.gif 16.379 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030517.gif 18.953 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030518.gif 18.861 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030519.gif 16.840 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030520.gif 10.300 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030521.gif 7.379 msg
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/Graphs/IDAY_20030522.gif 4.581 msg
>(Those charts use local (French) time GMT+02:00)
>Gilgamesh had been coping well:
> http://frogadmin.yi.org/cgi-bin/Spy1.exe
> Maximum backlog was ~7000 messages, latency as seen from the outside is ~4 hours
>while the maximum flood weathered was 45.000+ messages/day
>So these bastards, I will sue them.
>I was travelling myself, so I just briefly caressed the idea to pretend to accept the meeting and have him served some legal papers.
>So that he understands that France is living under French law, not Sassaman's, or Palfrader's, or Gardner's, or US law.
>And that French law includes a few interesting provisions regarding defamation and libel.
>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>The various blocks have been reported, and the remailer's and mail2news' volumes are back in the normal range (8000 and 700)
>And now, back to my wine cellar to get drunk.
>My remailing days are over.
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[end quote]

>
> To interface with Tor, QSL expects users to already have Tor running in the
> background.

I started Tor Browser.
Then I used QSL with this template

Fcc: outbox
Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
From: anonymous@anonymous.com
Chain: *,*,dizum; copies=2;
To: mail2news@dizum.com,mail2news@m2n.mixmin.net,mail2news@neodome.net
Newsgroups: at.test
Subject: aaaaaaaaa

but I obtain connection refused:

Sending mixmaster packet 1 of 2
Proxy: SMTP-onion
Connecting to
3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion:25
Connection closed!
ERROR: 10061 Connection refused
Error at Request Done
Failed

On 9/2/2023 2:58 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

SNIP

> Sending mixmaster packet 1 of 2
> Proxy: SMTP-onion
> Connecting to
> 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion:25
> Connection closed!
> ERROR: 10061 Connection refused
> Error at Request Done
> Failed

Did you setup Tor as your proxy?

In QSL like so:

Tools
Proxies
New
Host: 127.0.0.1
SMTP Proxy: Tor
HTTP Proxy: Tor
Socks 4a

If you've already dome these steps try using a different .onion
mail host:

6wlmvflobk2ztvvfdese4y3zpkigsx2qbz5v6bfkamijnwifnxgpw6id.onion:2525