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* Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
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|  `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
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From: walterjo...@invalid.nospam (Wally J)
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 by: Wally J - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 19:12 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> Unless you have photos of old racing books, he won't believe you

Hi Jolly Roger,
You again are completely wrong. All he'd have to do is say something about
bimmers (or beemers) that showed he actually knew something about them.

He knows nothing about them.
He doesn't even know what EVERYONE calls them in racing circuits, JR.

Who is _that_ ignorant, Jolly Roger?
Nobody, right?

Yet iKooks are.

>> I know I own one.
>
> It's not even an exclusive club. BMWs aren't huge fucking secrets.

It's no secret I've owned both a bimmer & beemer for years, Jolly Roger.
They're not "secrets" to anyone.

Mine have never been to a mechanic, even as they have many miles on them.
I have all the BMW tools, even as many of them are literally in German.

What _is_ a secret to the iKooks is even the simplest things about them.

If you can't tell a carburetor from fuel injection, Jolly Roger, then you
know nothing about the air:gas stoichiometric ratio either, Jolly Roger.

> I have only owned BMW cars since 2001, and while I don't do my own
> repairs, I can certainly tell you where to connect jumper cables, how to
> do routine maintenance, and so on. He acts like "knowing the first
> thing about BMWs" is some huge achievement when it just isn't.

There's a reason the iKooks are such rather strange people, Jolly Roger.

Your problems stem first from your low IQ but then you bought into the
Apple zealotry such that you lost any ability to think like an adult.

That's why you call anyone who tells you facts about Apple, an 'it'.
You're _afraid_ of that person.

Because you're _afraid_ of facts.

You're afraid of facts because your belief systems aren't based on them.
So facts are deadly dangerous weapons against you strange people, JR.

You iKooks don't know the first thing about _anything_, Jolly Roger.
a. Alan Browne doesn't even know there is a walled garden
b. Jolly Roger doesn't know how Apple updates/upgrades iOS
c. Nospam constantly claims imaginary functionality that doesn't exist
d. Alan Baker claims people are gay just for telling the truth about Apple
etc.

Who is _that_ ignorant, Jolly Roger?
Nobody, right?

Only the iKooks are.

Why?
a. They all have abnormally low IQs
b. Such that none of them has any semblance of an education
c. And worse, they know absolutely nothing about Apple products

With respect to the Dunning-Kruger quartiles, all iKooks are far to the
left, whereas normal people fit more into the middle & right sections.
--
There isn't an iKook who understands even that simple sentence above.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 19:26 UTC

On 2023-12-19 11:12, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> Unless you have photos of old racing books, he won't believe you
>
> Hi Jolly Roger,
> You again are completely wrong. All he'd have to do is say something about
> bimmers (or beemers) that showed he actually knew something about them.

Why is knowledge of those particular pieces of slang and their precise
usage a prerequisite for race driving and race driving instruction?

>
> He knows nothing about them.
> He doesn't even know what EVERYONE calls them in racing circuits, JR.

As I've said before, the guys I know who actually race BMW 325i(s)
prepared to a particular set of class rules...

....they call them "Pro 3s".

:-)

>
> Who is _that_ ignorant, Jolly Roger?
> Nobody, right?
>
> Yet iKooks are.
>
>>> I know I own one.
>>
>> It's not even an exclusive club. BMWs aren't huge fucking secrets.
>
> It's no secret I've owned both a bimmer & beemer for years, Jolly Roger.
> They're not "secrets" to anyone.
>
> Mine have never been to a mechanic, even as they have many miles on them.
> I have all the BMW tools, even as many of them are literally in German.
>
> What _is_ a secret to the iKooks is even the simplest things about them.
>
> If you can't tell a carburetor from fuel injection, Jolly Roger, then you
> know nothing about the air:gas stoichiometric ratio either, Jolly Roger.

No, sorry, but that simply doesn't follow.

>
>> I have only owned BMW cars since 2001, and while I don't do my own
>> repairs, I can certainly tell you where to connect jumper cables, how to
>> do routine maintenance, and so on. He acts like "knowing the first
>> thing about BMWs" is some huge achievement when it just isn't.
>
> There's a reason the iKooks are such rather strange people, Jolly Roger.
>
> Your problems stem first from your low IQ but then you bought into the
> Apple zealotry such that you lost any ability to think like an adult.
>
> That's why you call anyone who tells you facts about Apple, an 'it'.
> You're _afraid_ of that person.
>
> Because you're _afraid_ of facts.
>
> You're afraid of facts because your belief systems aren't based on them.
> So facts are deadly dangerous weapons against you strange people, JR.
>
> You iKooks don't know the first thing about _anything_, Jolly Roger.
> a. Alan Browne doesn't even know there is a walled garden
> b. Jolly Roger doesn't know how Apple updates/upgrades iOS
> c. Nospam constantly claims imaginary functionality that doesn't exist
> d. Alan Baker claims people are gay just for telling the truth about Apple

Now that last is simply a lie, Arlen.

Why must you lie?

:-(

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 by: Alan - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 19:29 UTC

On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-18 21:36, Wally J wrote:
>>> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>> Does it diminish you in any way that Checo is ranked 3rd on that
>>>> DriverDB Top 100? I wonder if Arlen even knows who that is. My fave
>>>> driver. I was all set to watch him on his home turf on both TVs (one
>>>> cockpit view) and he wrecked 1st lap! Sad.
>>>
>>> I don't know a damn thing about racing. But then, I've never claimed
>>> to be a "racer" nor a "teacher" of racing.
>>>
>>> Alan Baker doesn't know a damn thing about anything.
>>
>> I know enough about racing to have started in 2012...
>>
>> ...and been invited to instruct just 4 years later.
>
> Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣

Well...

....I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...

....but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
feeding of race cars.

I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:

"The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".

Does that count?

:-)

>
>>>> I think you established your bonafides. That he is hung up on what
>>>> people call BMWs is ridiculous. Who cares.
>>>
>>> Heh heh heh... Chris tried the same trick when he ridiculed the use
>>> of the word "vehicle" in immunological contexts - because he was
>>> chilishly trying to get out of the simple fact that he doesn't know
>>> the first thing about immunology - even after having "claimed" to
>>> have a PhD in the sciences.
>>>
>>> It's the same with Alan Baker.
>>
>> Other than that you tried to claim that a facetious comment about
>> "bimmer" vs "beemer" meant that I couldn't possibly be telling the
>> truth about being a racing driver and race driving instructor.
>>
>>>
>>> He doesn't know the first thing about BMWs. He just doesn't.
>>
>> I know I own one.
>
> It's not even an exclusive club. BMWs aren't huge fucking secrets. I
> have only owned BMW cars since 2001, and while I don't do my own
> repairs, I can certainly tell you where to connect jumper cables, how to
> do routine maintenance, and so on. Arlen acts like "knowing the first
> thing about BMWs" is some huge achievement when it just isn't.
>

The truly hilarious part is that he thinks that using two particular
slang terms means you know everything else about race driving.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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 by: Jolly Roger - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 22:57 UTC

On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣
>
> Well...
>
> ...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
>
> ...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
> feeding of race cars.
>
> I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
>
> "The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
>
> Does that count?
>
>:-)

Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉

>>>> He doesn't know the first thing about BMWs. He just doesn't.
>>>
>>> I know I own one.
>>
>> It's not even an exclusive club. BMWs aren't huge fucking secrets. I
>> have only owned BMW cars since 2001, and while I don't do my own
>> repairs, I can certainly tell you where to connect jumper cables, how
>> to do routine maintenance, and so on. Arlen acts like "knowing the
>> first thing about BMWs" is some huge achievement when it just isn't.
>
> The truly hilarious part is that he thinks that using two particular
> slang terms means you know everything else about race driving.
>
> 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

He's a true man child who can't help but give himself away every time he
responds.

--
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Wally J - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 23:22 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> Pics or it's fake news

What's interesting is Android updates security about monthly for all
devices on the Internet that are Android 10+, while iOS rarely updates.

Yet, Jolly Roger has claimed that iOS updates more frequently than Android.

What kind of person is that ignorant?
Nobody, right?

Just iKooks.
--
*There won't be a monthly Google Play System update
for December 2023 for all Android 10+ phones on the Internet*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/oYdhV2n1OlA>

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 by: Wally J - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 23:35 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

> No doubt you are gullible enough to see a face on Mars.

Hi Hemidactylus,

I've been called a lot of things in life, but "gullible" was never one of
those things, so you will be the 1st to claim that it's me who is gullible.

Given you "said" you read (and understood) the seminal D-K papers, then
that means you'll easily be able to answer this, the most basic question:

Q: *Where do _you_ think iKooks fit on the D-K quartile sections?*

> Unlike you I don't interpret these papers as Holy Gospel.

You're missing the point. Which I knew from the start.
Because you never read a word of the seminal D-K papers, Hemidactylus.

We're talking about iKooks, right?
And we're discussing the iKooks in terms of D-K quartiles, right?

Where do _you_ think all the iKooks fit in the D-K quartiles Hemidactylus?

> I am skeptical and in Popperian fashion think sacred cows need to
> stand up to rigid treatment.

I had to look up what "Popperian fashion" means... do you mean Carl Popper?
<https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/>
<https://iep.utm.edu/pop-sci/>
<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Popperian>
etc.

> So I have gone much further than you in my intellectual
> development and seen the emperor may not have clothes.

OK. Good. That's great. You're much smarter than I am, Hemidactylus.
Fine. So be it. Billions of people are smarter than I am, so that's OK.

I'll accept your claim of supreme excellence, a priori.

So answer the question then...
Q: *Where do _you_ think iKooks fit on the D-K quartile sections?*

> The DK effect appears as an artifact. We are pattern seeking creatures.

Given (based on your own high self assessment) that you're so enlightened,
tell us Hemidactylus where on the graphs do you think all the iKooks fit?
--
Note the iKooks don't even understand the simplest of questions asked.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 23:37 UTC

On 2023-12-19 15:22, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> Pics or it's fake news
>
> What's interesting is Android updates security about monthly for all
> devices on the Internet that are Android 10+, while iOS rarely updates.

It's more interesting that you're busily running away from the obvious
proof that I'm a race driving instructor...

....and for "interesting" read "hilarious"!

;-)

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 by: Alan - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 23:59 UTC

On 2023-12-19 14:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>
>>> Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣
>>
>> Well...
>>
>> ...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
>>
>> ...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
>> feeding of race cars.
>>
>> I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
>>
>> "The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
>>
>> Does that count?
>>
>> :-)
>
> Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉

Well... ...I had all the books on a bookshelf right next to me so...

,https://drive.google.com/file/d/1685A0qiE2t0XtAsYXhq919dTm3WFaaWM/view?usp=share_link>

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:07 UTC

On 2023-12-19, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> Pics or it's fake news
>
> Android updates blah blah blah...

Note how childish Arlen desperately tries to change the subject when
he's been called out on his bullshit and has nowhere else to run. 🤣

> Jolly Roger has claimed that iOS updates more frequently than Android.

Little Arlen then resorts to outright lies - nowhere on Usenet have I
*ever* said this, and to prove it, Arlen won't be able to show a post
where I said it, despite his absolute *love* for posting Google Groups
links to posts. You have to be a complete gullible rube to fall for
Arlen's easily-disproved lies. 😉

> What kind of person is that ignorant?

Projection from an ignorant lying fool. 🤣

> iKooks

Schoolyard insults and lies are all poor, little Arlen has when he's
called out on his bullshit.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:08 UTC

On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-19 15:22, Wally J wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>> Pics or it's fake news
>>
>> What's interesting is Android updates security about monthly for all
>> devices on the Internet that are Android 10+, while iOS rarely updates.
>
> It's more interesting that you're busily running away from the obvious
> proof that I'm a race driving instructor...
>
> ...and for "interesting" read "hilarious"!

He's a pathetic juvenile man child.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:08 UTC

On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-19 14:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣
>>>
>>> Well...
>>>
>>> ...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
>>>
>>> ...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
>>> feeding of race cars.
>>>
>>> I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
>>>
>>> "The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
>>>
>>> Does that count?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉
>
> Well... ...I had all the books on a bookshelf right next to me so...
>
> ,https://drive.google.com/file/d/1685A0qiE2t0XtAsYXhq919dTm3WFaaWM/view?usp=share_link>

Nice spread!

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:10 UTC

On 2023-12-19, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>
>> No doubt you are gullible enough to see a face on Mars.
>
> I've been called a lot of things in life, but "gullible" was never one
> of those things

Yet another lie. I've personally called out your gullible behavior, and
that of your brain-dead followers like badgolferman who gleefully
participates in your lame trolls.

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 by: Wally J - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:21 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> He's a pathetic juvenile man child.

And yet, you congratulated Snit on having found the purely imaginary
completely fabricated wholly imaginary iOS app that (iKooks claim) graphs
Wi-Fi signal strength for all available access points, Jolly Roger...
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> iKooks can't even see the fatal flaw!

Who is that shockingly ignorant to not even know the difference between
a. A decibel, &,
b. A megabit?

Nobody, right?
Just the iKooks.

You iKooks are all far to the left of the first D-K quartile, Jolly Roger.
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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:28 UTC

On 2023-12-19 16:08, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-19 14:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣
>>>>
>>>> Well...
>>>>
>>>> ...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
>>>>
>>>> ...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
>>>> feeding of race cars.
>>>>
>>>> I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
>>>>
>>>> "The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
>>>>
>>>> Does that count?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉
>>
>> Well... ...I had all the books on a bookshelf right next to me so...
>>
>> ,https://drive.google.com/file/d/1685A0qiE2t0XtAsYXhq919dTm3WFaaWM/view?usp=share_link>
>
> Nice spread!
>

And I've read them all and do you know what?

Not ONE of them has the word "bimmer" or "beemer" in it?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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 by: Wally J - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:29 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> He then resorts to outright lies...

You're the one who disputed Apple's own words about updates/upgrades, JR.
*Distinguishing software updates from upgrades*
<https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/>

Not me.
*I _knew_ Apple has the worst bug support of any device in the industry.*

Yet, for years on end, you've been touting what you "thought" was Apple's
policy of "fully fixing" all the security holes in older iOS releases...

Heh... heh... heh.

*It was all a lie, now wasn't it*, Jolly Roger.
C'mon.
*You know you lied for years and years*, Jolly Roger.

The person who called you on that lie, was me, now wasn't it, Jolly Roger.
<https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

You hate me for proving you lied about Apple updates for years on end, JR.
So be it.

Q: Do you now agree Apple has the worst zero-day support in the industry?
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 by: Wally J - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:36 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> Nice spread!

While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
Does Alan Baker?

Bearing in mind the IQ 40 Alan Baker thinks he's a genius and yet, he
repeatedly insisted nobody could change the newsreader header line...
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>

Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing.
--
The problem with the iKooks is not so much that they're all of low IQ,
but that they're religious zealots who know nothing about Apple products.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:45 UTC

On 2023-12-19 16:36, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> Nice spread!
>
> While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
> Does Alan Baker?

As a matter of fact, I DO know what a catenary is.

>
> Bearing in mind the IQ 40 Alan Baker thinks he's a genius and yet, he
> repeatedly insisted nobody could change the newsreader header line...
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
>
> Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing.

LOL!

This should be good.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 01:29 UTC

On 2023-12-19 16:36, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> Nice spread!
>
> While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
> Does Alan Baker?
>
> Bearing in mind the IQ 40 Alan Baker thinks he's a genius and yet, he
> repeatedly insisted nobody could change the newsreader header line...
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
>
> Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing.

So please no one respond to this until you've replied to the other
message I made replying to Arlen's post.

This is solely my prediction that he's about to claim that a catenary is
the shape of the path of a car (or other vehicle) going round a corner
at the highest possible speed.

And I'll say here and now that he's wrong. I've studied this very
problem and there are some very obvious arguments about WHY it cannot be
a catenary curve.

I won't say what the real answer is until later.

:-)

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 04:01 UTC

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-19 16:36, Wally J wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>> Nice spread!
>>
>> While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
>> Does Alan Baker?
>
> As a matter of fact, I DO know what a catenary is.
>
>>
>> Bearing in mind the IQ 40 Alan Baker thinks he's a genius and yet, he
>> repeatedly insisted nobody could change the newsreader header line...
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
>>
>> Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing.
>
> LOL!
>
> This should be good.
>
The offspring of Sylvester and Tweety Bird?

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 04:02 UTC

On 2023-12-19 20:01, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-19 16:36, Wally J wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> Nice spread!
>>>
>>> While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
>>> Does Alan Baker?
>>
>> As a matter of fact, I DO know what a catenary is.
>>
>>>
>>> Bearing in mind the IQ 40 Alan Baker thinks he's a genius and yet, he
>>> repeatedly insisted nobody could change the newsreader header line...
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
>>>
>>> Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> This should be good.
>>
> The offspring of Sylvester and Tweety Bird?
>

Just wait.

;-)

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 05:54 UTC

On 2023-12-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-19 16:08, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-19 14:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣
>>>>>
>>>>> Well...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
>>>>> feeding of race cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that count?
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉
>>>
>>> Well... ...I had all the books on a bookshelf right next to me so...
>>>
>>> ,https://drive.google.com/file/d/1685A0qiE2t0XtAsYXhq919dTm3WFaaWM/view?usp=share_link>
>>
>> Nice spread!
>>
>
> And I've read them all and do you know what?
>
> Not ONE of them has the word "bimmer" or "beemer" in it?
>
> 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That just means each of the authors don't know the first thing about
cars. 😉

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 05:55 UTC

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On 2023-12-20, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> Nice spread!
>
> While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.

Is that what you will end up hanging yourself with, you sorry sack of
shit? We can dream... 🙂

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Wally J - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 18:12 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> That just means each of the authors don't know the first thing about
> cars.

It's always the same with you low-IQ ignorant child-like iKooks, JR.

Remember, Alan Browne is the same low-IQ ignorant child-like iKook who
repeatedly claimed it was impossible to change newsreader headers, JR.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>

All you low-IQ iKooks greatly suffer from the D-K left-quartile flaws, JR.

For example, that you actually believe a technical book would use common
slang is interesting. It might. But it just as likely might not. The mere
fact they don't use slang isn't any indication that they're unaware of it.

Certainly NOBODY who is on a BMW forum would _ever_ be unaware, JR.
(They ridicule the hell out of any moron who doesn't know these words.)

Remember, Alan Baker "said" he's a racer & teacher - and yet - he clearly
did not know the simplest things about that which he claims excellence.

What's different is that someone who supposedly has been owning BMWs and
racing cars (and even "teaching" racing, if you can believe that),
who doesn't know the first thing about those cars - is either extremely
a. ignorant - or -
b. a liar.

Pick one.
--
All iKooks are ignorant of almost everything they speak about, which is how
I know they have low IQs, no education, and that they are DK left quartile.

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 by: Wally J - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 18:15 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote

> Remember, Alan Browne is the same low-IQ ignorant child-like iKook who
> repeatedly claimed it was impossible to change newsreader headers, JR.
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
>
> All you low-IQ iKooks greatly suffer from the D-K left-quartile flaws, JR.

Correction. I get these iKooks confused.

Alan Brown is the low-IQ ignorant iKook who has never seen the walled
garden (and, in fact, he claims because he is ignorant of it, it can't
exist).

Who is that ignorant?
Nobody, right?

Nobody but iKooks.

Meanwhile...

Alan Baker is the low-IQ ignorant iKook who claims to teach racing and own
BMWs and yet he doesn't know even the slightest about bimmers or beemers.

Who is that ignorant?
Nobody, right?

Nobody but iKooks.

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 by: Wally J - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 18:24 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

>> While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
>
> Is that what you will end up hanging yourself with, you sorry sack of
> shit? We can dream...

Hi Jolly Roger,

I love when all you iKooks post. I really do. I read EVERYTHING you say.
I learn (about you) from you, in fact, Jolly Roger. And from Alan Browne.

Also from Hemidactylus. It's only Joerg and Alan Baker that I plonked.
Everything I post to the child-like Apple newsgroups has a purpose.

A. To disseminate (or learn) facts about Apple products, and,
B. To show the iKooks for what they are.

The reason for bringing up the fact Alan Baker claimed repeatedly that
nobody could change newsreader headers was to prove that the iKooks form
very strong belief systems which are based on exactly zero actual facts.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>

It's the same reason I bring up that Alan Baker claimed repeatedly that he
"taught racing" and owns a BMW, and yet, he knows nothing about either.

That's why I brought up the word "catenary" which _every_ (real) racer
knows all about, as it's one of the most important words in racing schools.

Yet I'll be Alan Baker is, at this very moment, furiously googling what the
word catenary means - and all he's finding is cites about bridge building.

This so-called "racer" is confused by that word. Bewildered. Flummoxed.
His low-IQ brain can't figure out what a catenary has to do with racing.

Which is my point after all, Jolly Roger.

*All you iKooks are DK left quartile - you are ignorant of everything*
--
Alan Browne believes that the walled garden can't possibly exist, simply
because he's too ignorant to see it in almost everything done on iOS.


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