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 by: Lewis - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 03:23 UTC

In message <t0thbd$g10$4@dont-email.me> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> Are you ignorant...

> ...or lying?

Why not both?

<insert appropriate gif>

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You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!

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 by: Chris - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 11:22 UTC

Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> You always attack the messenger when you are incapable of an answer, don't
>> you? It's a giveaway.
>
> The _reason_ you fall for all the marketing tricks is that you have the
> confluence of three fundamental traits that _makes_ you the iKook you are:
> a. Low IQ
> b. No education
> c. Low self esteem

You're doing it again. You're literally a waste of bandwidth.

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 by: Sandman - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:30 UTC

In article <t0tinl$s05$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > Chris:
> > You always attack the messenger when you are incapable of an
> > answer, don't you? It's a giveaway.
>
> The _reason_ you fall for all the marketing tricks is that you have
> the confluence of three fundamental traits that _makes_ you the
> iKook you are: a. Low IQ b. No education c. Low self esteem

A simple "yes" would have sufficed.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:45 UTC

Chris wrote:

> You're doing it again.

Don't fall for the bullshit and I won't tell you that you fell for it.
Or, at least if you do fall for the bullshit, don't post it here.

Apple has _never_ made a best-in-class SOC in its entire history.
Apple can't.

All Apple can do is propaganda.
Never forget Apple's R&D is the _lowest_ in all of high tech.

Not a single similar company spends _less_ than does Apple in R&D.
Nor more in marketing propaganda.

TSMC SILICON! *TSMC SILICON!* TSMC SILICON! (big deal, everyone uses TSMC).
ARM TECHNOLOGY! *ARM TECHNOLOGY!* ARM TECHNOLOGY! (wow, big deal there too).

Apple spent more to buy Qualcomm's modem than my entire phone cost.
And even then, Apple can't figure out how to _integrate_ that bought modem.
Meanwhile, almost every smartphone manufacture figured it out long ago.

And don't get me started on Apple CPUs that are so unstable that Apple
becomes _desperate_ to secretly throttle them (and backdate release notes).

Apple has never designed a best-in-class SOC in its entire history.
Hell, Apple can't even design their own GPU for Christ's sake.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 16:24 UTC

Sandman wrote:

> A simple "yes" would have sufficed.

The details are that iKooks fall for the Apple bullshit propaganda.
The details are that Apple CPUs are all bullshit propaganda and no R&D.

Apple spends _more_ on touting that it's "*TSMC SILICON*!!!!*
than in actual design (considering it's all ARM technology).

Nobody on the adult OS newsgroups falls for mothership propaganda.
Only those on the child-like Apple newsgroups fall for the propaganda.

Apple spends _less_ in R&D than any high tech company on this planet.
And more in advertising their propaganda than any other company on earth.

You fall for it.
Nobody on the adult OS newsgroups touts *INTEL INSIDE!* like you do.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 16:30 UTC

Lewis wrote:

> And no one else can buy Apple' chips because they are APPLE'S CHIPS.

That's like saying the 5G modem that Apple can't integrate is Apple's modem.

Sure, Apple spends more per phone on just the Qualcomm modem than my entire
Android phone costs, and yet my Android phone does more than the most
expensive iPhone ever designed can do.

> then anyone could buy an M1 Ultra, but the fact
> is that no one can buy that chip and no other chips on the market come
> close to the capabilities of the M1 any of the M1s).

Apple brands their "TSMC Silicon" chip as if that's a big deal.
Apple touts that they use "ARM technology" as if that's a big deal.

Earth to iKooks: Everyone uses TSMC fabs and ARM technology. Not just Apple.

>> It's faster... ...and uses less power.
>
> Far beyond that, even. the way the SoC is designed is far beyond what
> anyone else is doing. Not only can you not get a chip like the M1 you
> cannot get a chip anything like the M1.

Apple has never designed a best-in-class SOC in its entire history.
The reason is that Apple is all MARKETING and almost no R&D to speak of.

Even Apple's vaunted CPUs are so unstable that Apple felt _desperate_ to
secretly throttle them (and to secretly change the release notes).

The fact is that Apple can't even integrate an existing modem that they
bought from someone else, let alone design a CPU using 100% other people's
technology that, even then, doesn't need throttling to remain stable.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 16:34 UTC

Lewis wrote:

> <insert appropriate gif>

Adults notice iKooks can never respond to facts without turning into what
they are, which is childish low-IQ uneducated ignorant kindergarten kids.

The facts remain Apple's R&D is the _lowest_ in all of high tech bar none.
And Apple's propaganda machine is the highest.

Apple likely spends ten times more in touting their crappy CPUs than in
actually doing the design work even as almost everything they bought.

It's TSMC Silicon (which Apple tries to rebrand as their own)
It's ARM technology (which Apple tries to rebrand as their own)

Apple has _never_ made a best-in-class SOC in its entire history.
And Apple never will.

Why?
Because Apple is all marketing and almost zero R&D, that's why.

And you iKooks fall for it.
Ask me why and you'll find three reasons for why:
a. You're uneducated
b. You're of low IQ
c. You have low self esteem

You gain all your self esteem off of what Apple feeds you to feel.

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 by: Chris - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:01 UTC

Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> You're doing it again.

[ snip arlen arguing with himself ]

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 by: Alan laughing at Arl - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:28 UTC

On 2022-03-17 8:45 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> You're doing it again.
>
> Don't fall for the bullshit and I won't tell you that you fell for it.
> Or, at least if you do fall for the bullshit, don't post it here.
>
> Apple has _never_ made a best-in-class SOC in its entire history.
> Apple can't.
>
> All Apple can do is propaganda.
> Never forget Apple's R&D is the _lowest_ in all of high tech.
>
> Not a single similar company spends _less_ than does Apple in R&D.
> Nor more in marketing propaganda.
>
> TSMC SILICON! *TSMC SILICON!* TSMC SILICON! (big deal, everyone uses TSMC).
> ARM TECHNOLOGY! *ARM TECHNOLOGY!* ARM TECHNOLOGY! (wow, big deal there
> too).
>
> Apple spent more to buy Qualcomm's modem than my entire phone cost.
> And even then, Apple can't figure out how to _integrate_ that bought modem.
> Meanwhile, almost every smartphone manufacture figured it out long ago.
>
> And don't get me started on Apple CPUs that are so unstable that Apple
> becomes _desperate_ to secretly throttle them (and backdate release notes).

Don't you mean "TSMC CPUs" there?

>
> Apple has never designed a best-in-class SOC in its entire history.
> Hell, Apple can't even design their own GPU for Christ's sake.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 01:45 UTC

Chris wrote:

> arguing with himself

Notice all the iKooks like Chris have no _adult_ response to the facts.

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 by: Alan laughing at Arl - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 01:49 UTC

On 2022-03-17 6:45 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> arguing with himself
>
> Notice all the iKooks like Chris have no _adult_ response to the facts.

You've received facts, Arlen...

....you've just chosen to lie about that.

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 by: Lewis - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 07:29 UTC

In message <t10ofb$6jp$1@dont-email.me> Alan laughing at Arlen <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> You've received facts, Arlen...

Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little
chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for
the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his
life? Please, think of that image first.

--
7-Up? What happened to Ups 1-6?

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 by: Chris - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 07:47 UTC

Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> arguing with himself
>
> Notice all the iKooks like Chris have no _adult_ response to the facts.

Let us know when you find some.

Also how's that carpenter getting on with his kitchen unit in your house?

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 by: Sandman - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:17 UTC

In article <t0vnav$q0n$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > Sandman:
> > A simple "yes" would have sufficed.
>
> The details are that iKooks fall for the Apple bullshit propaganda.
> The details are that Apple CPUs are all bullshit propaganda and no
> R&D.

> Apple spends _more_ on touting that it's "*TSMC SILICON*!!!!*
> than in actual design (considering it's all ARM technology).

> Nobody on the adult OS newsgroups falls for mothership propaganda.
> Only those on the child-like Apple newsgroups fall for the
> propaganda.

> Apple spends _less_ in R&D than any high tech company on this
> planet. And more in advertising their propaganda than any other
> company on earth.

> You fall for it. Nobody on the adult OS newsgroups touts *INTEL
> INSIDE!* like you do.

Again, a simple "yes" would have sufficed, even if your looney toons diatribe
above serves the same purpose.

--
Sandman

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 by: Lewis - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:28 UTC

In message <t11dej$83o$1@dont-email.me> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let us know when you find some.

Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little
chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for
the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his
life? Please, think of that image first.

--
'They've given us the answers,' he [Carrot] said. 'Perhaps we can
find out what the questions should have been.' --Feet of Clay

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From: g.kr...@kreme.dont-email.me (Lewis)
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 by: Lewis - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:28 UTC

In message <sandman-cad0274893cb606a97bed8b0e013926c@individual.net> Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote:
> Again, a simple "yes" would have sufficed, even if your looney toons diatribe
> above serves the same purpose.

Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little
chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for
the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his
life? Please, think of that image first.

--
"You're an elf and you're going to wear panties like an elf."

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 by: Chris - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 13:23 UTC

Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <t11dej$83o$1@dont-email.me> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let us know when you find some.
>
> Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little
> chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for
> the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his
> life? Please, think of that image first.

What goes on in your head is not my responsibility ;)

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 by: lew - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 19:44 UTC

On 2022-03-15, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2022-03-15 12:40 p.m., lew wrote:
>> On 2022-03-11, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-11 12:39 p.m., lew wrote:
>>>> On 2022-03-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> And no one but a few kooks try to claim that these are anything but
>>>>> Apple's intellectual property.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'The Apple M1 Ultra is Apple's latest piece of bespoke silicon, and it's
>>>>> the most powerful M1 chip the company has ever made.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unveiled during the March 2022 Apple Event, the M1 Ultra is an
>>>>> incredibly powerful SoC (system-on-chip). It's basically two M1 Max
>>>>> chips paired together, using a heretofore "hidden feature" of the Max:
>>>>> special die-to-die interconnection tech that lets two Max chips work
>>>>> together for all-new heights of power.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple calls this interconnection technology "UltraFusion", and it
>>>>> appears to be enabling Apple silicon to reach unprecedented levels of
>>>>> performance.'
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.tomsguide.com/news/apple-m1-ultra-everything-we-know-so-far>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'We were expecting to see an all-new M2 chip unveiled early in 2022, not
>>>>> a new top-end M1 chip like the Ultra, but you won't catch me
>>>>> complaining; given that the M1 Max blew my expectations out of the water
>>>>> in 2021, the prospect of a new chip that's effectively twice as powerful
>>>>> is very exciting.'
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't matter. If apple's ios apps cannot get out of the sandbox,
>>>> then access/running speed is ZERO. A Ferrari, BMW, Rolls Royce, etc
>>>> are faster than my old Honda; but the faster cars cannot get to the
>>>> supermarket faster than me unless they break the law by ignoring
>>>> the traffic lights, stop signs & school zones as well as pedestrians &
>>>> bicyles.
>>>
>>> In what way does the OS sandboxing prevent an app from utilizing greater
>>> processor speeds and additional cores?
>>>
>>> Don't be afraid to speak in technical language.
>>
>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide; in fact the
>> "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
>> ipad is located on the ipad.
>
> That wasn't the question I asked.

Read your question again. The OS sandboxing prevented the app
to utilize any speed to read the ipad user guide on the ipad. The
app had an app speed of ZERO because of sandboxing; if you
double the cpu speed, the app reading speed is still ZERO.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 19:49 UTC

In article <t12ne1$enj$1@dont-email.me>, lew
<citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:

> >>>> Doesn't matter. If apple's ios apps cannot get out of the sandbox,
> >>>> then access/running speed is ZERO. A Ferrari, BMW, Rolls Royce, etc
> >>>> are faster than my old Honda; but the faster cars cannot get to the
> >>>> supermarket faster than me unless they break the law by ignoring
> >>>> the traffic lights, stop signs & school zones as well as pedestrians &
> >>>> bicyles.
> >>>
> >>> In what way does the OS sandboxing prevent an app from utilizing greater
> >>> processor speeds and additional cores?
> >>>
> >>> Don't be afraid to speak in technical language.
> >>
> >> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
> >> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
> >> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide; in fact the
> >> "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
> >> ipad is located on the ipad.
> >
> > That wasn't the question I asked.
>
> Read your question again. The OS sandboxing prevented the app
> to utilize any speed to read the ipad user guide on the ipad. The
> app had an app speed of ZERO because of sandboxing; if you
> double the cpu speed, the app reading speed is still ZERO.

sandboxing had nothing to do with what you claim happened.

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 by: lew - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 19:56 UTC

On 2022-03-16, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <t0qq3a$ila$1@dont-email.me> lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:
>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide
>
> Makes sense, the user guide is in iBook format which is fine since the
> Books app is part of iOS so every iOS or iPadOS user has it.
>
>> in fact the "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
>> ipad is located on the ipad.
>
> I cannot parse that.
>
>
The Books app has been considered junkier than iBooks. There is
reason why Marvin, MapleRead & FBReader is installed onto many
ipads for READing. The point is that a "faster" cpu does not matter
in all cases as an ebook reader is not able to see where the ebook
is residing for an app to use. Even my purchased explorer app is
not able to find the ipad user guide much less being able to read
the ebook "faster". The claims of PCMag & others that the ipad is
the best tablet device for reading is false; of course, some even say
that an e-ink reader is best for the eyes when reading.

There are many postings about the negative of being "locked into"
the Amazon envionment; but being locked into the apple ecology
is even worst as it also included hardware in the past & looks to
becoming the current & future with special chips in order for the apple
computer to 'see, recognize, connect & use' the device.

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 by: Lewis - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 20:18 UTC

In message <t12o5u$enj$2@dont-email.me> lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-03-16, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> In message <t0qq3a$ila$1@dont-email.me> lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:
>>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
>>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
>>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide
>>
>> Makes sense, the user guide is in iBook format which is fine since the
>> Books app is part of iOS so every iOS or iPadOS user has it.
>>
>>> in fact the "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
>>> ipad is located on the ipad.
>>
>> I cannot parse that.
>>
>>
> The Books app has been considered junkier than iBooks. There is
> reason why Marvin, MapleRead & FBReader is installed onto many
> ipads for READing.

I've never seen any of those apps installed on any iPad. The only apps
I've ever seen people use for reading books are Libby (for library
books), Kindle (for amazon's shitty format), and Books (for epubs and
iBooks).

But that is not relevant, because for the iBooks format, only the Books
app can read those books. They are much improved ePub books with many
features that other ebook formats do not include.

> The point is that a "faster" cpu does not matter in all cases as an
> ebook reader is not able to see where the ebook is residing for an app
> to use.

That sentence started off seeming like it was going to make sense, but
nope.

> Even my purchased explorer app is not able to find the ipad user guide

Your... what the fuck are you talking about?

> much less being able to read the ebook "faster". The claims of PCMag
> & others that the ipad is the best tablet device for reading is false;

No, it is not. I've been using my iPad for reading since I first got an
iPad, even though I own multiple kindles. The iPad is much better, and
continues to be better.

> There are many postings about the negative of being "locked into"
> the Amazon envionment; but being locked into the apple ecology
> is even worst as it also included hardware in the past & looks to
> becoming the current & future with special chips in order for the apple
> computer to 'see, recognize, connect & use' the device.

I think you either need to stop taking drugs, or take more drugs.

--
"Making music should not be left to the professionals." - Michelle
Shocked

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 by: Alan - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 21:17 UTC

On 2022-03-18 12:44 p.m., lew wrote:
> On 2022-03-15, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-03-15 12:40 p.m., lew wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-11, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-03-11 12:39 p.m., lew wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-03-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> And no one but a few kooks try to claim that these are anything but
>>>>>> Apple's intellectual property.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'The Apple M1 Ultra is Apple's latest piece of bespoke silicon, and it's
>>>>>> the most powerful M1 chip the company has ever made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unveiled during the March 2022 Apple Event, the M1 Ultra is an
>>>>>> incredibly powerful SoC (system-on-chip). It's basically two M1 Max
>>>>>> chips paired together, using a heretofore "hidden feature" of the Max:
>>>>>> special die-to-die interconnection tech that lets two Max chips work
>>>>>> together for all-new heights of power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple calls this interconnection technology "UltraFusion", and it
>>>>>> appears to be enabling Apple silicon to reach unprecedented levels of
>>>>>> performance.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.tomsguide.com/news/apple-m1-ultra-everything-we-know-so-far>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'We were expecting to see an all-new M2 chip unveiled early in 2022, not
>>>>>> a new top-end M1 chip like the Ultra, but you won't catch me
>>>>>> complaining; given that the M1 Max blew my expectations out of the water
>>>>>> in 2021, the prospect of a new chip that's effectively twice as powerful
>>>>>> is very exciting.'
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't matter. If apple's ios apps cannot get out of the sandbox,
>>>>> then access/running speed is ZERO. A Ferrari, BMW, Rolls Royce, etc
>>>>> are faster than my old Honda; but the faster cars cannot get to the
>>>>> supermarket faster than me unless they break the law by ignoring
>>>>> the traffic lights, stop signs & school zones as well as pedestrians &
>>>>> bicyles.
>>>>
>>>> In what way does the OS sandboxing prevent an app from utilizing greater
>>>> processor speeds and additional cores?
>>>>
>>>> Don't be afraid to speak in technical language.
>>>
>>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
>>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
>>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide; in fact the
>>> "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
>>> ipad is located on the ipad.
>>
>> That wasn't the question I asked.
>
> Read your question again. The OS sandboxing prevented the app
> to utilize any speed to read the ipad user guide on the ipad. The
> app had an app speed of ZERO because of sandboxing; if you
> double the cpu speed, the app reading speed is still ZERO.

Sorry, but that's nonsense.

The app wasn't the correct app for the file you downloaded.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 21:35 UTC

In article <t12ssv$u12$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> >>>
> >>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
> >>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
> >>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide; in fact the
> >>> "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
> >>> ipad is located on the ipad.
> >>
> >> That wasn't the question I asked.
> >
> > Read your question again. The OS sandboxing prevented the app
> > to utilize any speed to read the ipad user guide on the ipad. The
> > app had an app speed of ZERO because of sandboxing; if you
> > double the cpu speed, the app reading speed is still ZERO.
>
> Sorry, but that's nonsense.
>
> The app wasn't the correct app for the file you downloaded.

it should have been able to read it. the problem is he is blaming apple
for his own mistakes.

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 by: Your Name - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 21:35 UTC

On 2022-03-18 19:44:02 +0000, lew said:
> On 2022-03-15, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-03-15 12:40 p.m., lew wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-11, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-03-11 12:39 p.m., lew wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-03-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> And no one but a few kooks try to claim that these are anything but
>>>>>> Apple's intellectual property.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'The Apple M1 Ultra is Apple's latest piece of bespoke silicon, and
>>>>>> it's the most powerful M1 chip the company has ever made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unveiled during the March 2022 Apple Event, the M1 Ultra is an
>>>>>> incredibly powerful SoC (system-on-chip). It's basically two M1 Max
>>>>>> chips paired together, using a heretofore "hidden feature" of the Max:
>>>>>> special die-to-die interconnection tech that lets two Max chips work
>>>>>> together for all-new heights of power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple calls this interconnection technology "UltraFusion", and it
>>>>>> appears to be enabling Apple silicon to reach unprecedented levels of
>>>>>> performance.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.tomsguide.com/news/apple-m1-ultra-everything-we-know-so-far>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'We were expecting to see an all-new M2 chip unveiled early in 2022,
>>>>>> not a new top-end M1 chip like the Ultra, but you won't catch me
>>>>>> complaining; given that the M1 Max blew my expectations out of the
>>>>>> water in 2021, the prospect of a new chip that's effectively twice as
>>>>>> powerful is very exciting.'
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't matter. If apple's ios apps cannot get out of the sandbox,
>>>>> then access/running speed is ZERO. A Ferrari, BMW, Rolls Royce, etc
>>>>> are faster than my old Honda; but the faster cars cannot get to the
>>>>> supermarket faster than me unless they break the law by ignoring
>>>>> the traffic lights, stop signs & school zones as well as pedestrians &
>>>>> bicyles.
>>>>
>>>> In what way does the OS sandboxing prevent an app from utilizing greater
>>>> processor speeds and additional cores?
>>>>
>>>> Don't be afraid to speak in technical language.
>>>
>>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
>>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
>>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide; in fact the
>>> "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
>>> ipad is located on the ipad.
>>
>> That wasn't the question I asked.
>
> Read your question again. The OS sandboxing prevented the app
> to utilize any speed to read the ipad user guide on the ipad. The
> app had an app speed of ZERO because of sandboxing; if you
> double the cpu speed, the app reading speed is still ZERO.

An app that doesn't "know where the ipad is located on the ipad" isn't
worth using anyway. :-p

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 by: lew - Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:42 UTC

On 2022-03-18, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <t12o5u$enj$2@dont-email.me> lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2022-03-16, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>> In message <t0qq3a$ila$1@dont-email.me> lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:
>>>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
>>>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
>>>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide
>>>
>>> Makes sense, the user guide is in iBook format which is fine since the
>>> Books app is part of iOS so every iOS or iPadOS user has it.
>>>
>>>> in fact the "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
>>>> ipad is located on the ipad.
>>>
>>> I cannot parse that.
>>>
>>>
>> The Books app has been considered junkier than iBooks. There is
>> reason why Marvin, MapleRead & FBReader is installed onto many
>> ipads for READing.
>
> I've never seen any of those apps installed on any iPad. The only apps
> I've ever seen people use for reading books are Libby (for library
> books), Kindle (for amazon's shitty format), and Books (for epubs and
> iBooks).
>
> But that is not relevant, because for the iBooks format, only the Books
> app can read those books. They are much improved ePub books with many
> features that other ebook formats do not include.
>
>> The point is that a "faster" cpu does not matter in all cases as an
>> ebook reader is not able to see where the ebook is residing for an app
>> to use.
>
> That sentence started off seeming like it was going to make sense, but
> nope.
>
>> Even my purchased explorer app is not able to find the ipad user guide
>
> Your... what the fuck are you talking about?
>
>> much less being able to read the ebook "faster". The claims of PCMag
>> & others that the ipad is the best tablet device for reading is false;
>
> No, it is not. I've been using my iPad for reading since I first got an
> iPad, even though I own multiple kindles. The iPad is much better, and
> continues to be better.
>
>> There are many postings about the negative of being "locked into"
>> the Amazon envionment; but being locked into the apple ecology
>> is even worst as it also included hardware in the past & looks to
>> becoming the current & future with special chips in order for the apple
>> computer to 'see, recognize, connect & use' the device.
>
> I think you either need to stop taking drugs, or take more drugs.
>
>
Narrow minded. You should check on the Mobileread forum about
apps for reading on an ipad by people who do lots of reading. You
probably don't even use Calibre to keep track of your books. The
books purchased from apple is not a "special" format but just the
open epub format with apple's own DRM.

Insults are the only option you can communicate? guess that is
what apple fanatics can do aside being very NARROW MINDED.

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