In article <t17lgq$8f7$1@dont-email.me>, lew
<citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:

> >>>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
> >>>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
> >>>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide

....

> >> There are many postings about the negative of being "locked into"
> >> the Amazon envionment; but being locked into the apple ecology
> >> is even worst as it also included hardware in the past & looks to
> >> becoming the current & future with special chips in order for the apple
> >> computer to 'see, recognize, connect & use' the device.
> >
> > I think you either need to stop taking drugs, or take more drugs.
> >
> >
> Narrow minded. You should check on the Mobileread forum about
> apps for reading on an ipad by people who do lots of reading. You
> probably don't even use Calibre to keep track of your books. The
> books purchased from apple is not a "special" format but just the
> open epub format

which means they're readable by any app that can read epub, including
mobileread.

> with apple's own DRM.

the ipad user guide does not have drm.

In message <t17lgq$8f7$1@dont-email.me> lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-03-18, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> In message <t12o5u$enj$2@dont-email.me> lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-16, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>> In message <t0qq3a$ila$1@dont-email.me> lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> I downloaded the ipad user guide from apple store.
>>>>> The "speed increase" did not let me use my app of choice,
>>>>> MapleReader SE, to read the ipad user guide
>>>>
>>>> Makes sense, the user guide is in iBook format which is fine since the
>>>> Books app is part of iOS so every iOS or iPadOS user has it.
>>>>
>>>>> in fact the "faster" cpu did not let me even access or know where the
>>>>> ipad is located on the ipad.
>>>>
>>>> I cannot parse that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The Books app has been considered junkier than iBooks. There is
>>> reason why Marvin, MapleRead & FBReader is installed onto many
>>> ipads for READing.
>>
>> I've never seen any of those apps installed on any iPad. The only apps
>> I've ever seen people use for reading books are Libby (for library
>> books), Kindle (for amazon's shitty format), and Books (for epubs and
>> iBooks).
>>
>> But that is not relevant, because for the iBooks format, only the Books
>> app can read those books. They are much improved ePub books with many
>> features that other ebook formats do not include.
>>
>>> The point is that a "faster" cpu does not matter in all cases as an
>>> ebook reader is not able to see where the ebook is residing for an app
>>> to use.
>>
>> That sentence started off seeming like it was going to make sense, but
>> nope.
>>
>>> Even my purchased explorer app is not able to find the ipad user guide
>>
>> Your... what the fuck are you talking about?
>>
>>> much less being able to read the ebook "faster". The claims of PCMag
>>> & others that the ipad is the best tablet device for reading is false;
>>
>> No, it is not. I've been using my iPad for reading since I first got an
>> iPad, even though I own multiple kindles. The iPad is much better, and
>> continues to be better.
>>
>>> There are many postings about the negative of being "locked into"
>>> the Amazon envionment; but being locked into the apple ecology
>>> is even worst as it also included hardware in the past & looks to
>>> becoming the current & future with special chips in order for the apple
>>> computer to 'see, recognize, connect & use' the device.
>>
>> I think you either need to stop taking drugs, or take more drugs.
>>
>>
> Narrow minded. You should check on the Mobileread forum about
> apps for reading on an ipad by people who do lots of reading.

I read a lot of books ( 63 so far this year). I belong to several groups
with people who read just as much as I do. Some of them like Kindles,
more of them like Kobos, but most use iPads.

> probably don't even use Calibre to keep track of your books. The
> books purchased from apple is not a "special" format but just the
> open epub format with apple's own DRM.

You are very confused. The Books apps supports PDF, ePub, ePub with DRM,
MP3, AAC, Audible, and iBooks format. iBooks format is a highly enhanced
ePub format that supports many features that ePub does not.

<https://itunespartner.apple.com/books/articles/book-formats-2708>
|| Created in iBooks Author and specifically designed for Apple devices,
|| Multi-Touch books (.ibooks) provide numerous possibilities to
|| interact with the reader through photo galleries, videos, interactive
|| diagrams, 3D objects, quizzes, and more. Multi-Touch books are
|| designed to create immersive and memorable experiences with
|| textbooks, cookbooks, history books, and picture books in ways not
|| possible in print texts..

> end of talk

Yeah, I am not surprised you want to wallow in your willful ignorance.

--
"If I were willing to change my morals for convenience or financial
gain, we wouldn't be arguing, because I'd already *be* a
Republican." -- Wil Shipley

On 3/21/2022 1:23 AM, Lewis wrote:

> I read a lot of books ( 63 so far this year). I belong to several
> groups with people who read just as much as I do.

I used to frequent several Usenet ebook groups. Stole a lot of pirated
ebooks there. Then I got religion and started buying my ebooks when a
couple of family members became authors and tried to make a buck. And
surprisingly there are a lot of free ebooks from legitimate sources like
Amazon. Some pretty bad but then some also not so bad. YMMV.

> Some of them like Kindles, more of them like Kobos, but most use
> iPads.

The wife prefers to read her Amazon ebooks on an Apple iPad tablet
whereas I like my Google Play ebooks on an Amazon Fire tablet. Go figure...

On 3/21/2022 8:12 AM, AJL wrote:
> On 3/21/2022 1:23 AM, Lewis wrote:
>
>> I read a lot of books ( 63 so far this year). I belong to several
>> groups with people who read just as much as I do.
>
> I used to frequent several Usenet ebook groups. Stole a lot of pirated
> ebooks there. Then I got religion and started buying my ebooks when a
> couple of family members became authors and tried to make a buck. And
> surprisingly there are a lot of free ebooks from legitimate sources like
> Amazon. Some pretty bad but then some also not so bad. YMMV.

Our library lends out eBooks, as do several neighboring libraries. You
can also "borrow" a large number of magazines and newspapers. Audio
books too.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 11:10:46 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 3/21/2022 8:12 AM, AJL wrote:
>> On 3/21/2022 1:23 AM, Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> I read a lot of books ( 63 so far this year). I belong to several
>>> groups with people who read just as much as I do.
>>
>> I used to frequent several Usenet ebook groups. Stole a lot of pirated
>> ebooks there. Then I got religion and started buying my ebooks when a
>> couple of family members became authors and tried to make a buck. And
>> surprisingly there are a lot of free ebooks from legitimate sources like
>> Amazon. Some pretty bad but then some also not so bad. YMMV.
>
>Our library lends out eBooks,

So does ours, but the selection is much smaller than what I can get on
Amazon.

>as do several neighboring libraries. You
>can also "borrow" a large number of magazines and newspapers. Audio
>books too.

I have no interest in either. I get my news on the web, and audio
books are much too slow for me. The only times I ever used them is
when I made long trips in the car, but I never do that anymore.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

On 3/21/2022 11:10 AM, sms wrote:
> On 3/21/2022 8:12 AM, AJL wrote:

>> I used to frequent several Usenet ebook groups. Stole a lot of
>> pirated ebooks there. Then I got religion and started buying my
>> ebooks when a couple of family members became authors and tried to
>> make a buck. And surprisingly there are a lot of free ebooks from
>> legitimate sources like Amazon. Some pretty bad but then some also
>> not so bad. YMMV.

> Our library lends out eBooks, as do several neighboring libraries.
> You can also "borrow" a large number of magazines and newspapers.
> Audio books too.

My local library lends ebooks too. But they are limited in the number
that they can lend out per title, apparently a legal thing. Popular
titles are often all out and not available until returned.

I can also borrow (with no time limit) over 2500 ebooks (and magazines)
from Amazon Prime Reading. That might be expensive if I didn't save
money overall by using my other Prime "benefits"...

sms wrote:

> Our library lends out eBooks, as do several neighboring libraries. You
> can also "borrow" a large number of magazines and newspapers. Audio
> books too.

I don't know where our friend Ken lives so he many not know this
information, but in California, as I understand it, where Steve also lives,
the libraries who get funds from the state must allow _anyone_ who lives in
the state to get a library card.

Given how huge California is, that means the number of library cards you can
amass is likewise immense, where each library strikes a different deal with
the various suppliers (e.g., my library folder on my iPad has
a. Kanopy
b. Hoopla
c. cloudLibrary
d. Overdrive
e. RBdigital
f. Libby
g. Bluefire Reader
h. EPUBReader
i. Kindle
j. Digital Editions
k. MapleRead CX
(I don't use the Android phablet for reading as it's too small.)

The only problem with the library cards is they all make you pick it up in
person, and some expire in only 3 years so you won't want to get a LA
library card if you live in SF unless you happen to visit LA every few
years.
--
Each post to Usenet should strive to add value of use to the majority.

Sandman wrote:

> Again, a simple "yes" would have sufficed

The fact remains *Apple has never built a best-in-class SOC* in its history.

Even more to the point, Apple's CPUs easily qualify for _worst_ in class
(given they don't last a year before they become so unstable they need to
secretly be throttled or they turn off at the moment they're most needed).

Hell, Apple can't even design a modem... nor integrated it into the SOC.
(Everyone can do that - except Apple.)
--
The reason is Apple is all MARKETING and the lowest R&D in all of high tech.

On 2022-03-21 2:21 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Sandman wrote:
>
>> Again, a simple "yes" would have sufficed
>
> The fact remains *Apple has never built a best-in-class SOC* in its
> history.

If by "built" you mean "constructed in their own factory"...

....you're right.

But if you mean that they haven't designed their own SOC...

....you're utterly wrong.

>
> Even more to the point, Apple's CPUs easily qualify for _worst_ in class
> (given they don't last a year before they become so unstable they need to
> secretly be throttled or they turn off at the moment they're most needed).

Sorry, but that's just more bullshit.

>
> Hell, Apple can't even design a modem... nor integrated it into the SOC.
> (Everyone can do that - except Apple.)

On 3/21/22 2:21 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Sandman wrote:
>
>> Again, a simple "yes" would have sufficed
>
> The fact remains *Apple has never built a best-in-class SOC* in its
> history.
>
> Even more to the point, Apple's CPUs easily qualify for _worst_ in class
> (given they don't last a year before they become so unstable they need to
> secretly be throttled or they turn off at the moment they're most needed).
>
> Hell, Apple can't even design a modem... nor integrated it into the SOC.
> (Everyone can do that - except Apple.)

Another technically incompetent individual obviously.

John wrote:

> Another technically incompetent individual obviously.

And yet, the fact remains you can't name even a _single_ Apple smartphone
SOC that is best in class. Not even one. In the entire history of Apple.

HINT: An SOC that must be secretly throttled happens to be _worst_ in class.

Hell, Apple can't even design a modem IC. Nor a competitive smartphone GPU.

Nor even integrate an _existing_ modem IC they bought for $190/iPhone from
Qualcomm.

Why?
I don't know why.

I do know that Apple R&D is the _lowest_ in all of high tech.
And the highest marketing.

That's likely why.
Apple is all marketing and almost zero R&D.

Apple MARKETING even has to lie about the M1 to generate any buzz.
And Apple lies about "TSMC Silicon" (big deal - everyone uses TSMC).

All Marketing.
Almost no R&D.

That's Apple.

On 2022-03-21 8:15 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> John wrote:
>
>> Another technically incompetent individual obviously.
>
> And yet, the fact remains you can't name even a _single_ Apple smartphone
> SOC that is best in class. Not even one. In the entire history of Apple.

'Apple’s A13 and A14 chips beat Qualcomm’s flagship Snapdragon 888 in
first benchmarks'

<https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/18/apple-a13-14-snapdragon-888/>

>
> HINT: An SOC that must be secretly throttled happens to be _worst_ in
> class.
>
> Hell, Apple can't even design a modem IC. Nor a competitive smartphone GPU.
>
> Nor even integrate an _existing_ modem IC they bought for $190/iPhone from
> Qualcomm.
>
> Why?
> I don't know why.
>
> I do know that Apple R&D is the _lowest_ in all of high tech.
> And the highest marketing.
>
> That's likely why.
> Apple is all marketing and almost zero R&D.

Apple spends more on R&D than all but a handful of companies.

>
> Apple MARKETING even has to lie about the M1 to generate any buzz.
> And Apple lies about "TSMC Silicon" (big deal - everyone uses TSMC).
>
> All Marketing.
> Almost no R&D.
>
> That's Apple.

<https://www.techcenturion.com/smartphone-processors-ranking>

Apple is first.

On 3/21/2022 1:59 PM, AJL wrote:
> On 3/21/2022 11:10 AM, sms wrote:
>> On 3/21/2022 8:12 AM, AJL wrote:
>
>>> I used to frequent several Usenet ebook groups. Stole a lot of
>>> pirated ebooks there. Then I got religion and started buying my
>>> ebooks when a couple of family members became authors and tried to
>>> make a buck. And surprisingly there are a lot of free ebooks from
>>> legitimate sources like Amazon. Some pretty bad but then some also
>>> not so bad. YMMV.
>
>> Our library lends out eBooks, as do several neighboring libraries.
>> You can also "borrow" a large number of magazines and newspapers.
>> Audio books too.
>
> My local library lends ebooks too. But they are limited in the number
> that they can lend out per title, apparently a legal thing. Popular
> titles are often all out and not available until returned.

Yes, just like physical books, an eBook purchased by the library can
only be lent out to one person at a time. What's annoying is that
someone can read an eBook in a week but never bother to "return it" so
they have electronic possession of it until it's due.

> I can also borrow (with no time limit) over 2500 ebooks (and magazines)
> from Amazon Prime Reading. That might be expensive if I didn't save
> money overall by using my other Prime "benefits"...

And don't forget Amazon Prime music too. Pretty much eliminates any need
for Spotify, Apple Music, etc..

In article <t1ck2m$5j9$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > My local library lends ebooks too. But they are limited in the number
> > that they can lend out per title, apparently a legal thing. Popular
> > titles are often all out and not available until returned.
>
> Yes, just like physical books, an eBook purchased by the library can
> only be lent out to one person at a time. What's annoying is that
> someone can read an eBook in a week but never bother to "return it" so
> they have electronic possession of it until it's due.

same thing happens with physical books, except that with ebooks, it's
automatically 'returned' by expiring access to it.

On 3/22/2022 6:48 AM, sms wrote:
> On 3/21/2022 1:59 PM, AJL wrote:

>> I can also borrow (with no time limit) over 2500 ebooks (and
>> magazines) from Amazon Prime Reading. That might be expensive if I
>> didn't save money overall by using my other Prime "benefits"...
>
> And don't forget Amazon Prime music too. Pretty much eliminates any
> need for Spotify, Apple Music, etc..

Yup. I enjoy that too though my local mp3 collection that I listen to
numbers over 2000 songs that I've collected since my teenage years. Some
started as 78s and 33s and have survived the disk to tape to file
journey. I still can hear the scratches on some. That's good for two
reasons: Nostalgia and that my old ears can still hear them... ;)

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 06:48:07 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 3/21/2022 1:59 PM, AJL wrote:
>> On 3/21/2022 11:10 AM, sms wrote:
>>> On 3/21/2022 8:12 AM, AJL wrote:
>>
>>>> I used to frequent several Usenet ebook groups. Stole a lot of
>>>> pirated ebooks there. Then I got religion and started buying my
>>>> ebooks when a couple of family members became authors and tried to
>>>> make a buck. And surprisingly there are a lot of free ebooks from
>>>> legitimate sources like Amazon. Some pretty bad but then some also
>>>> not so bad. YMMV.
>>
>>> Our library lends out eBooks, as do several neighboring libraries.
>>> You can also "borrow" a large number of magazines and newspapers.
>>> Audio books too.
>>
>> My local library lends ebooks too. But they are limited in the number
>> that they can lend out per title, apparently a legal thing. Popular
>> titles are often all out and not available until returned.
>
>Yes, just like physical books, an eBook purchased by the library can
>only be lent out to one person at a time. What's annoying is that
>someone can read an eBook in a week but never bother to "return it" so
>they have electronic possession of it until it's due.

What's even more annoying to me is that my library makes it very
difficult to remember how to return an e-book early. And if I
remember, it's hard and time-consuming to do.

I used to do it, but I no longer do.

There are many things I like about my library and how it does things,
but there are also others I strongly dislike.

I used to call the library the library and make suggestions for
improvements, but it was a waste of my time and I stopped. The person
I spoke with agreed with me more often than not, but told me that they
were powerless to make any changes. That was the way the software they
used (bought? rented? I'm not sure) worked, and they couldn't get them
to make any changes.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

On 3/22/2022 10:00 AM, Ken Blake wrote:

<snip>

> I used to call the library the library and make suggestions for
> improvements, but it was a waste of my time and I stopped. The person
> I spoke with agreed with me more often than not, but told me that they
> were powerless to make any changes. That was the way the software they
> used (bought? rented? I'm not sure) worked, and they couldn't get them
> to make any changes.

I was my city's representative on our county library system's board and
even that didn't have any impact on fixing the biggest pet peeve I had
with our library which is still continuing: the library is being used by
tutors that are taking up tables and charging for their services. This
wouldn't be an issue if the library was empty, but we have an extremely
popular and busy library and regular users have to compete for space.

Some other libraries in the U.S. have policies to prevent this kind of
thing.

http://publiclibrariesonline.org/2016/03/to-charge-or-not-to-charge-a-tutoring-story/>

<https://www.bergenfieldlibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Paid-Tutoring-Policy.pdf>

In article <t1bf0o$1u49$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> > John:

> > Another technically incompetent individual obviously.

>

> And yet, the fact remains you can't name even a _single_ Apple

> smartphone SOC that is best in class. Not even one. In the entire

> history of Apple.

> HINT: An SOC that must be secretly throttled happens to be _worst_

> in class.

> Hell, Apple can't even design a modem IC. Nor a competitive

> smartphone GPU.

> Nor even integrate an _existing_ modem IC they bought for

> $190/iPhone from Qualcomm.

> Why?

> I don't know why.

> I do know that Apple R&D is the _lowest_ in all of high tech.

> And the highest marketing.

> That's likely why.

> Apple is all marketing and almost zero R&D.

> Apple MARKETING even has to lie about the M1 to generate any buzz.

> And Apple lies about "TSMC Silicon" (big deal - everyone uses TSMC).

> All Marketing.

> Almost no R&D.

> That's Apple.

Ah, this is the "Most Ignorant Olympics"? You're in the lead! Congratulations!

--
Sandman