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* Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
+* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
| `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
+* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?John
|`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
| `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|  `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
+* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
| +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
| |+* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan Browne
| ||`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
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| || `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*Hemidactylus*
| ||  `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
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| ||    `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*Hemidactylus*
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| ||`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
| || `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
| |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?WolfFan
| | `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
| `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|  `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|   `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|    `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     |+* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*Hemidactylus*
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|     ||+* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan Browne
|     |||`- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     ||`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
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|     |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*Hemidactylus*
|     | +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | | `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |  +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |  |`- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
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|     | |    +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |    |+* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |    ||`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |    || `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |    |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |    | `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |    |  `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |    |   `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?John Hill
|     | |    |    +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |    |    +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |    |    |+- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |    |    |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?John Hill
|     | |    |    | `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
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|     | |      |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |      | `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |      |  +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |      |  |`- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |      |  `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |      `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|     | |       | +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       | `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |  +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |  `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*Hemidactylus*
|     | |       |   +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |   `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |    +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|     | |       |    |+* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |    ||`- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |    |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |       |    | `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |    |  +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anWhy is Arlen such a coward?
|     | |       |    |  `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|     | |       |    |   `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |    |    `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |    `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |     `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |       |      `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |       +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anWhy is Arlen such a coward?
|     | |       |       `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |       |        `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |         +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |       |         |`* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |         | `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly callbadgolferman
|     | |       |         |  +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |         |  |`- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|     | |       |         |  `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |         |   +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |         |   `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly callbadgolferman
|     | |       |         |    +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |         |    +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|     | |       |         |    |`- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       |         |    `- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?Wally J
|     | |       |         `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call*Hemidactylus*
|     | |       +- Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anAlan
|     | |       +* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people anJolly Roger
|     | |       `* "Catenary" (was Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedlyAlan
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|     `* Re: Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*Hemidactylus*
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 by: Wally J - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 02:03 UTC

Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?

*What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly does such a thing?*

Is it what religious fanatics do?

Why?
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 by: Alan - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 05:00 UTC

On 2023-12-15 18:03, Wally J wrote:
> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>
> *What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly does such a thing?*
>
> Is it what religious fanatics do?
>
> Why?

As opposed to calling people "iKook"?

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 by: John - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:17 UTC

On 12/15/2023 6:03 PM, Wally J wrote:
> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>
> *What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly does such a thing?*
>
> Is it what religious fanatics do?
>
> Why?

Because those nuts consider themselves an it. So they think everybody
else is to. Very strange specimens indeed.

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On 2023-12-16, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
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> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?

Not people - just loser trolls like you. And it works. Look how
triggered you are. Precious! 🤣

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:58 UTC

On 2023-12-16, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-15 18:03, Wally J wrote:
>> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>>
>> *What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly does such a thing?*
>>
>> Is it what religious fanatics do?
>>
>> Why?
>
> As opposed to calling people "iKook"?

*What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly calls people juvenile
names like "iKook"?*

Is it what religious fanatics do?

Why?

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 00:02 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> *What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly calls people juvenile
> names like "iKook"?*
>
> Is it what religious fanatics do?
>
> Why?

While I've been on the child-like Apple operating system newsgroups for
years, I've been on the adult operating system newsgroups for those same
years. The people who post to them are extremely different.

a. Those who post to the adult operating system newsgroups act normally.
b. Those who post to the child-like Apple newsgroups, decidedly do not.

So what would _you_ call those posters who post to Apple newsgroups, JR?

Almost never (and, in fact, likely never) does anyone on the adult
operating system newsgroups foment the kind of outright fabrications of
imaginary functionality that occurs _constantly_ on the Apple OS ngs.

A classic example of this imaginary functionality iOS fabrication is:
*It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0>

Basically, when there is missing functionality on teh adult operating
systems newsgroups, people simply agree on the facts of the matter.

On the child-like Apple newsgroups, the iKooks _fabricate_ the
functionality, and yet, they can never answer this simple question:
*Name just one*

They always fail at that.
This is quite different from a normal person, Jolly Roger, is it not?

Nobody on the adult operating system newsgroups constantly fabricates
imaginary functionality that is easily proven to not exist, Jolly Roger.

That only happens on the Apple newsgroups.

Hence, it's a valid question to ask, where the iKooks are all the same ilk:
a. None of them has an IQ even approaching that of normal
b. None of them has any education over the high school level
c. All of them defend every Apple action to the death

Given that fact... *What would _you_ call that type of person?*

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 00:13 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

>> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>
> Not people - just loser trolls like you. And it works. Look how
> triggered you are. Precious!

Hi Jolly Roger,
I study you just like Dunning & Kruger studied that rather peculiar
lemon-juice covered bank robber.

You interest me.
Hence, I read _everything_ that you write on these newsgroups, JR.

Having gone to the best schools in this country and subsequently having
worked in high-tech startups in the Silicon Valley, I've never met in the
flesh people like these strange iKooks are - only here - on Apple ngs.

These strange people only exist on the child-like Apple newsgroups for the
most part, as almost nobody on the adult operating system newsgroups would
send users on a futile wild-goose chase just because they asked a question
of an Apple product that Apple doesn't want that product to be able to do.

There are _many_ (many!) examples of this interaction; here's just one:
*Why are iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ynh0PE9lK_I/>

What normal person does that?
None, right?

So there's something rather strangely different about these Apple posters.
{JollyRoger,YourName,Haemactylus,nospam,AlanBrowne,AlanBaker,Snit, et al.}

They've lied for years about Apple support (or they were ignorant of
everything that they claimed - you can choose which one but not both).
*Proof the iKooks have lied for years - or - more to the point - have been IGNORANT for years*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ZE8GboBUO3c/>

They constantly lie to cover up what Apple does, to claim it didn't happen.
*Why do the low IQ iKooks like nospam always lie to cover up Apple's faults?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AiMYbSmplkw/>

What normal person does that?
None, right?

Only a small set of posters to the Apple newsgroups does that.
Why?

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 by: Alan - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 02:44 UTC

On 2023-12-17 16:13, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>>> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>>
>> Not people - just loser trolls like you. And it works. Look how
>> triggered you are. Precious!
>
> Hi Jolly Roger,
> I study you just like Dunning & Kruger studied that rather peculiar
> lemon-juice covered bank robber.
>
> You interest me.
> Hence, I read _everything_ that you write on these newsgroups, JR.
>
> Having gone to the best schools in this country and subsequently having
> worked in high-tech startups in the Silicon Valley, I've never met in the
> flesh people like these strange iKooks are - only here - on Apple ngs.
>
> These strange people only exist on the child-like Apple newsgroups for the
> most part, as almost nobody on the adult operating system newsgroups would
> send users on a futile wild-goose chase just because they asked a question
> of an Apple product that Apple doesn't want that product to be able to do.
>
> There are _many_ (many!) examples of this interaction; here's just one:
> *Why are iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases?*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ynh0PE9lK_I/>
>
> What normal person does that?
> None, right?
>
> So there's something rather strangely different about these Apple posters.
> {JollyRoger,YourName,Haemactylus,nospam,AlanBrowne,AlanBaker,Snit, et al.}
>
> They've lied for years about Apple support (or they were ignorant of
> everything that they claimed - you can choose which one but not both).
> *Proof the iKooks have lied for years - or - more to the point - have been IGNORANT for years*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ZE8GboBUO3c/>
>
> They constantly lie to cover up what Apple does, to claim it didn't happen.
> *Why do the low IQ iKooks like nospam always lie to cover up Apple's faults?*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AiMYbSmplkw/>
>
> What normal person does that?
> None, right?
>
> Only a small set of posters to the Apple newsgroups does that.
> Why?

You REALLY need to get laid, Arlen.

Seriously... ...get out of your basement and meet a girl...

....or a guy if that's your thing.

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 by: Alan Browne - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 15:09 UTC

On 2023-12-17 21:44, Alan wrote:

> You REALLY need to get laid, Arlen.

Regardless of its needs, no woman or man should be called upon to
sacrifice their dignity to it.

--
“Markets can remain irrational longer than your can remain solvent.”
- John Maynard Keynes.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 16:09 UTC

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote

> Regardless of its needs, no woman or man should be called upon to
> sacrifice their dignity to it.

*To the adults on these childish Apple OS newsgroups...*

a. [JR] The first person calls people "losers" & thinks that is clever.
b. [Baker] The next calls people gay & thinks that's really clever.
b. [Browne] The third calls people an "it", thinking that's also clever.

Isn't that strange?
A. This doesn't happen on the adult operating systems newsgroups.
B. It's only on the child-like Apple operating system newsgroups.
C. Why?

Specifically:
*Why do you think these people repeatedly act & think like children do?*

NOTE: It's their _only_ response to facts about Apple that they hate.
--
What kind of rather oddly strange clearly child-like person does that?

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 16:17 UTC

John <nospam@nospam.com> wrote

>> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>>
>> *What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly does such a thing?*
>>
>> Is it what religious fanatics do?
>>
>> Why?
>
> Because those nuts consider themselves an it. So they think everybody
> else is to. Very strange specimens indeed.

Well, I'm not sure, as what I'm sure about is all these strange people are
far to the left of the first quartile delineation in Dunning-Kruger graphs.

Hence, they have no adult response to facts that they simply don't like.

A. When they're confronted with a fact they don't like...
B. They just want that fact to go away.

However, the fact doesn't go away.
a. Facts are the most dangerous enemy of an imaginary belief system.
b. Which is why these people are desperate to make all facts disappear.

The only way they can make facts disappear... is to make the messenger
disappear, which is why in the past nospam asked for me to be killed.

Likewise, their fear of facts is why Jolly Roger said he would be happy if
I died - because then he wouldn't have to deal with facts about Apple.

The problem for them is that whether or not I exist, the facts will.
They don't understand that simple concept.

So they try to make me go away.
By calling me a "loser" (Jolly Roger), "gay" (Alan Baker) & "it" Alan
Browne (as if that child-like insult is their only response to facts).

This question really should be something akin to "Why do are these people
so deathly afraid of facts that they resort to kindergarten style insults
to make the bearer of facts go away?".

*What kind of rather oddly clearly rather strange person does that?*
--
If the iKooks left the child-like Apple newsgroups, suddenly and instantly,
these child-like Apple OS newsgroups would be like the adult OS newsgroups.

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Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>>> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>>
>> Not people - just loser trolls like you. And it works. Look how
>> triggered you are. Precious!
>
> Hi Jolly Roger,
> I study you just like Dunning & Kruger studied that rather peculiar
> lemon-juice covered bank robber.
>
They didn’t study that bank robber. That incident was used as an anecdote.
From their Methods: “Participants were 65 Cornell University undergraduates
from a variety of courses in psychology who earned extra credit for their
participation” which translates to WEIRD kids.

No surprise you can’t distinguish an illustrative anecdote from actual
research, which has been challenged as being nothing more than a
statistical exercise in seeing shapes in clouds.

You’re not “studying” anything. You are again masturbating in public (as
seen below):

> You interest me.
> Hence, I read _everything_ that you write on these newsgroups, JR.
>
> Having gone to the best schools in this country and subsequently having
> worked in high-tech startups in the Silicon Valley, I've never met in the
> flesh people like these strange iKooks are - only here - on Apple ngs.
>
> These strange people only exist on the child-like Apple newsgroups for the
> most part, as almost nobody on the adult operating system newsgroups would
> send users on a futile wild-goose chase just because they asked a question
> of an Apple product that Apple doesn't want that product to be able to do.
>
> There are _many_ (many!) examples of this interaction; here's just one:
> *Why are iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases?*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ynh0PE9lK_I/>
>
> What normal person does that?
> None, right?
>
> So there's something rather strangely different about these Apple posters.
> {JollyRoger,YourName,Haemactylus,nospam,AlanBrowne,AlanBaker,Snit, et al.}
>
> They've lied for years about Apple support (or they were ignorant of
> everything that they claimed - you can choose which one but not both).
> *Proof the iKooks have lied for years - or - more to the point - have
> been IGNORANT for years*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ZE8GboBUO3c/>
>
> They constantly lie to cover up what Apple does, to claim it didn't happen.
> *Why do the low IQ iKooks like nospam always lie to cover up Apple's faults?*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AiMYbSmplkw/>
>
> What normal person does that?
> None, right?
>
> Only a small set of posters to the Apple newsgroups does that.
> Why?
>

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 16:55 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>
> *What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly does such a thing?*
>
> Is it what religious fanatics do?
>
> Why?

It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again…It places the
lotion in the basket.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 16:56 UTC

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-17 16:13, Wally J wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>>> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>>>
>>> Not people - just loser trolls like you. And it works. Look how
>>> triggered you are. Precious!
>>
>> Hi Jolly Roger,
>> I study you just like Dunning & Kruger studied that rather peculiar
>> lemon-juice covered bank robber.
>>
>> You interest me.
>> Hence, I read _everything_ that you write on these newsgroups, JR.
>>
>> Having gone to the best schools in this country and subsequently having
>> worked in high-tech startups in the Silicon Valley, I've never met in the
>> flesh people like these strange iKooks are - only here - on Apple ngs.
>>
>> These strange people only exist on the child-like Apple newsgroups for the
>> most part, as almost nobody on the adult operating system newsgroups would
>> send users on a futile wild-goose chase just because they asked a question
>> of an Apple product that Apple doesn't want that product to be able to do.
>>
>> There are _many_ (many!) examples of this interaction; here's just one:
>> *Why are iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases?*
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ynh0PE9lK_I/>
>>
>> What normal person does that?
>> None, right?
>>
>> So there's something rather strangely different about these Apple posters.
>> {JollyRoger,YourName,Haemactylus,nospam,AlanBrowne,AlanBaker,Snit, et al.}
>>
>> They've lied for years about Apple support (or they were ignorant of
>> everything that they claimed - you can choose which one but not both).
>> *Proof the iKooks have lied for years - or - more to the point - have
>> been IGNORANT for years*
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ZE8GboBUO3c/>
>>
>> They constantly lie to cover up what Apple does, to claim it didn't happen.
>> *Why do the low IQ iKooks like nospam always lie to cover up Apple's faults?*
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AiMYbSmplkw/>
>>
>> What normal person does that?
>> None, right?
>>
>> Only a small set of posters to the Apple newsgroups does that.
>> Why?
>
> You REALLY need to get laid, Arlen.
>
> Seriously... ...get out of your basement and meet a girl...
>
> ...or a guy if that's your thing.
>
He could be furry or otherkin. Or into gadgetry.

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 by: WolfFan - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 16:58 UTC

On Dec 17, 2023, Alan wrote
(in article <ulobm1$3ajcm$4@dont-email.me>):

> On 2023-12-17 16:13, Wally J wrote:
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
> >
> > > > Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
> > >
> > > Not people - just loser trolls like you. And it works. Look how
> > > triggered you are. Precious!
> >
> > Hi Jolly Roger,
> > I study you just like Dunning & Kruger studied that rather peculiar
> > lemon-juice covered bank robber.
> >
> > You interest me.
> > Hence, I read _everything_ that you write on these newsgroups, JR.
> >
> > Having gone to the best schools in this country and subsequently having
> > worked in high-tech startups in the Silicon Valley, I've never met in the
> > flesh people like these strange iKooks are - only here - on Apple ngs.
> >
> > These strange people only exist on the child-like Apple newsgroups for the
> > most part, as almost nobody on the adult operating system newsgroups would
> > send users on a futile wild-goose chase just because they asked a question
> > of an Apple product that Apple doesn't want that product to be able to do.
> >
> > There are _many_ (many!) examples of this interaction; here's just one:
> > *Why are iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases?*
> > <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ynh0PE9lK_I/>
> >
> > What normal person does that?
> > None, right?
> >
> > So there's something rather strangely different about these Apple posters.
> > {JollyRoger,YourName,Haemactylus,nospam,AlanBrowne,AlanBaker,Snit, et al.}
> >
> > They've lied for years about Apple support (or they were ignorant of
> > everything that they claimed - you can choose which one but not both).
> > *Proof the iKooks have lied for years - or - more to the point - have been
> > IGNORANT for years*
> > <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ZE8GboBUO3c/>
> >
> > They constantly lie to cover up what Apple does, to claim it didn't happen.
> > *Why do the low IQ iKooks like nospam always lie to cover up Apple's
> > faults?*
> > <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AiMYbSmplkw/>
> >
> > What normal person does that?
> > None, right?
> >
> > Only a small set of posters to the Apple newsgroups does that.
> > Why?
>
> You REALLY need to get laid, Arlen.
>
> Seriously... ...get out of your basement and meet a girl...
>
> ...or a guy if that's your thing.

The supply of girls (or guys) willing to put up with Arlen and others like
him is quite limited, unless cash is involved. (In Arlen’s case, a LOT of
cash.)

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 17:17 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> John <nospam@nospam.com> wrote
>
>>> Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
>>>
>>> *What kind of rather strange ?adult? repeatedly does such a thing?*
>>>
>>> Is it what religious fanatics do?
>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> Because those nuts consider themselves an it. So they think everybody
>> else is to. Very strange specimens indeed.
>
> Well, I'm not sure, as what I'm sure about is all these strange people are
> far to the left of the first quartile delineation in Dunning-Kruger graphs.
>
The most weaponized concept in psychology abused by a basement dwelling
Morlock who uses tools but doesn’t understand them. Ironic really. Maslow’s
law of the instrument in the flesh where Arlen lashes out with what turns
out to be a wet noodle (D-K effect not what it’s cracked up to be):

https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1188&context=numeracy

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.840180/full

https://economicsfromthetopdown.com/2022/04/08/the-dunning-kruger-effect-is-autocorrelation/
>
> Hence, they have no adult response to facts that they simply don't like.
>
> A. When they're confronted with a fact they don't like...
> B. They just want that fact to go away.
>
> However, the fact doesn't go away.
> a. Facts are the most dangerous enemy of an imaginary belief system.
> b. Which is why these people are desperate to make all facts disappear.
>
> The only way they can make facts disappear... is to make the messenger
> disappear, which is why in the past nospam asked for me to be killed.
>
> Likewise, their fear of facts is why Jolly Roger said he would be happy if
> I died - because then he wouldn't have to deal with facts about Apple.
>
> The problem for them is that whether or not I exist, the facts will.
> They don't understand that simple concept.
>
> So they try to make me go away.
> By calling me a "loser" (Jolly Roger), "gay" (Alan Baker) & "it" Alan
> Browne (as if that child-like insult is their only response to facts).
>
> This question really should be something akin to "Why do are these people
> so deathly afraid of facts that they resort to kindergarten style insults
> to make the bearer of facts go away?".
>
> *What kind of rather oddly clearly rather strange person does that?*

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 by: Alan - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 17:51 UTC

On 2023-12-18 08:09, Wally J wrote:
> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
>
>> Regardless of its needs, no woman or man should be called upon to
>> sacrifice their dignity to it.
>
> *To the adults on these childish Apple OS newsgroups...*
>
> a. [JR] The first person calls people "losers" & thinks that is clever.
> b. [Baker] The next calls people gay & thinks that's really clever.

I didn't call anyone gay, Arlen.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 18:40 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

> The most weaponized concept in psychology abused by a basement dwelling
> Morlock who uses tools but doesn't understand them. Ironic really. Maslow's
> law of the instrument in the flesh where he lashes out with what turns
> out to be a wet noodle (D-K effect not what it's cracked up to be):

The question is what is it that makes these strange iKooks do what they do?
And why.

None of the iKooks are normal people. None act like adults.
None own the adult comprehensive skills to even understand the D-K graphs.

For example, any adult knows that every person with any level of skill fits
into DK quartiles. Except the iKooks.

These child-like iKooks actually don't understand that simple fact.
Why not?

The very fact Hemidactylus has absolutely no idea why I mentioned the first
quartile, is additional evidence these iKooks can't comprehend any facts.

Even so, plenty of people are to the left of the D-K first quartile.
Even people on the adult operating system newsgroups are (e.g., micky).

What makes the iKooks iKooks is their religious fanaticism.
Not their ignorance, low IQ, lack of education per se.

The iKooks all own a religious _hatred_ for facts about Apple products.

The point here isn't that. It's that they're child-like in their response.
Why?

Can't iKooks come up with a more adult "insult" than calling someone an it?

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 18:47 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

> He could be furry or otherkin. Or into gadgetry.

What makes the iKooks iKooks is their religious fanaticism.
Not their ignorance, low IQ, and clear lack of education, per se.

Every iKook tries to make facts go away with their childish taunts.
a. iKook [JR] person calls people "losers" & he thinks that is clever.
b. iKook [Baker] calls people "gay" & thinks he's being very clever.
c. iKook [Browne] calls people an "it", thinking that's oh so very clever.

Isn't that strange?
A. This doesn't happen on the adult operating systems newsgroups.
B. It's only on the child-like Apple operating system newsgroups.
C. Why?
--
Every iKook owns an intensely religious _hatred_ for facts about Apple.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 18:50 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

> They didn�t study that bank robber. That incident was used as an anecdote.
> From their Methods: �Participants were 65 Cornell University undergraduates
> from a variety of courses in psychology who earned extra credit for their
> participation� which translates to WEIRD kids.
>
> No surprise you can�t distinguish an illustrative anecdote from actual
> research, which has been challenged as being nothing more than a
> statistical exercise in seeing shapes in clouds.
>
> You�re not �studying� anything. You are again masturbating in public (as
> seen below):

I know exactly what they studied, Hemidactylus.
Here's a question for you which shows that you don't.

What's to the left of the first quartile line on English proficiency?
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus?
--
Note that you have no idea what I'm asking, even as it's very simple.

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 by: Alan - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 18:52 UTC

On 2023-12-18 10:47, Wally J wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>
>> He could be furry or otherkin. Or into gadgetry.
>
> What makes the iKooks iKooks is their religious fanaticism.
> Not their ignorance, low IQ, and clear lack of education, per se.
>
> Every iKook tries to make facts go away with their childish taunts.
> a. iKook [JR] person calls people "losers" & he thinks that is clever.
> b. iKook [Baker] calls people "gay" & thinks he's being very clever.

Who do you think I called "gay"? And what do the quotes mean in this
context, Arlen? Because normally they mean someone used that literal term...

....which I haven't.

:-)

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 18:55 UTC

WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote

> The supply of girls (or guys) willing to put up with him and others like
> him is quite limited, unless cash is involved. (In his case, a LOT of
> cash.)

I've studied the iKooks for years, and I think I understand them.

What makes the iKooks iKooks is their fact-free blind religious fanaticism.
Not their shocking ignorance, abnormally low IQ & lack of education.

Every iKook tries to make facts go away with their childish taunts.
a. iKook [JR] person calls people "losers" & he thinks that is clever.
b. iKook [Baker] calls people "gay" & thinks he's being very clever.
c. iKook [Browne] calls people an "it", thinking that's oh so very clever.

Isn't that strange?
A. This doesn't happen on the adult operating systems newsgroups.
B. It's only on the child-like Apple operating system newsgroups.
C. Why?
--
Every iKook owns an intensely religious _hatred_ for facts about Apple.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 18:59 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

> It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again�KIt places the
> lotion in the basket.

Notice the iKooks _hate_ anyone who speaks facts about Apple products.
a. Facts are to be feared
b. People who state facts are to be feared

*Zealots holding religious belief systems _always fear facts_ by the way.*
*Everyone not a zealot, in fact... is to be feared.*

What makes the iKooks iKooks is their fact-free blind religious fanaticism.
Not their shocking ignorance, abnormally low IQ & lack of education.

Every iKook tries to make facts go away with their childish taunts.
a. iKook [JR] person calls people "losers" & he thinks that is clever.
b. iKook [Baker] calls people "gay" & thinks he's being very clever.
c. iKook [Browne] calls people an "it", thinking that's oh so very clever.

Isn't that strange?
A. This doesn't happen on the adult operating systems newsgroups.
B. It's only on the child-like Apple operating system newsgroups.
C. Why?
--
Every iKook owns an intensely religious _hatred_ for facts about Apple.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 20:22 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>
>> They didn´t study that bank robber. That incident was used as an anecdote.
>> From their Methods: “Participants were 65 Cornell University undergraduates
>> from a variety of courses in psychology who earned extra credit for their
>> participation” which translates to WEIRD kids.
>>
>> No surprise you can´t distinguish an illustrative anecdote from actual
>> research, which has been challenged as being nothing more than a
>> statistical exercise in seeing shapes in clouds.
>>
>> You´re not “studying” anything. You are again masturbating in public (as
>> seen below):
>
> I know exactly what they studied, Hemidactylus.

Then why did you assume they actually studied McArthur Wheeler?

> Here's a question for you which shows that you don't.
>
> What's to the left of the first quartile line on English proficiency?

GIGO.

> What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus?

More GIGO.

I’m not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock.
If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there’s nothing but shapes in
clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows
you haven’t gotten the memo.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 20:36 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

>> What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus?
> I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock.
> If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in
> clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows
> you haven't gotten the memo.

Don't worry Hemidactylus,

I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they
studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he
doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew
up as racing terms) just as nospam constantly claims imaginary apps for iOS
that don't exist, just as Alan Baker always claims every fact is a lie,
etc.

Hemidactylus, Alan Browne, Snit, Alan Baker, Lewis, nospam, et al.

You iKooks all _hate_ facts.
You iKooks all _fear_ facts, in fact.

Hence, you fear (and hate) anyone who presents facts to an Apple newsgroup.

Yes, I know you iKooks better than you know yourselves, Hemidactylus.
a. None of you iKooks has an IQ that even approaches normal
b. None of you iKooks has any education above high school as a result
c. But worse, you're all completely ignorant of everything you speak about

You have no idea what a quartile is and yet it's used many times in the
seminal D-K papers, Hemidactylus, as it's an important inflection point.

Every one of you strange iKooks owns completely imaginary belief systems.
None of you strange iKooks makes any assessment based on the facts.

*The iKooks is a religious zealot.*

Which, by the way, truth be told, is exactly the reason why Alan Browne
thinks that anyone who is not a religious zealot is an "it", and why Jolly
Roger thinks anyone who is not a religious zealot is a "loser", and why
Alan Baker thinks anyone who is not a religious zealot is "gay", etc.
--
The iKooks alone turn every conversation on Usenet into childish taunts.

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