I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am streaming the
radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite crackly.

Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring Internet
speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what I want.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Have you ever noticed that all the instruments searching for intelligent
life are pointing away from Earth?

On 11/03/2024 16:15, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am streaming
> the radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite crackly.
>
> Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring Internet
> speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what I want.

Windows can tell you what link speed your wifi connection is using.

[network & internet settings/wifi/properties maybe?]

have you got a NAS locally, what speed can you downloasdfiles from it,
that excludes your internet connectivity ... but that will enter into
radio streaming, but I've generally got a radio stream going for half
the day and don't notice much if any drop-out from it, certainly no
"crackle"

On 11 Mar 2024 at 16:15:27 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

>
> I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am streaming the
> radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite crackly.
>
> Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring Internet
> speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what I want.

Audio is such tiny quantities of data that it's vanishingly unlikely to
be speed, and more likely something to do with your client or (less
likely) the source that generates any crackle.

Also the stream will be sourced from the Internet, so Internet
speed+latency would be the right thing to check surely?

If you do actually want to check the speed of your wifi - bearing in
mind that it'll vary moment to moment as environmental factors change -
you'd want one computer on the wifi, one wired, and run iperf on both
(one as server, "iperf -s", and one as the client with "iperf -c {host
or ip of server}". Or just transfer eg 1gig of data and stopwatch it.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"Some people think that noise abatement should be a higher
priority for ATC. I say safety is noise abatement. You have no
idea how much noise it makes to have a 737 fall out of the sky
after an accident."
-- anonymous air traffic controller

On 11/03/2024 16:15, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am streaming
> the radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite crackly.
>
> Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring Internet
> speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what I want.
>

Android phones will tell you the speed of a wifi connection, regardless
of the upstream broadband connection ?

On 11/03/2024 16:15, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am streaming
> the radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite crackly.
>
> Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring Internet
> speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what I want.
>
Download "FAST" app on phone.

On 11/03/2024 in message <xn0oj7a3xixulhb00g@news.individual.net> Jeff
Gaines wrote:

>
>I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am streaming the
>radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite crackly.
>
>Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring Internet
>speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what I want.

Many thanks for the replies :-)

I applied a bit of logic. I watch very little live TV now, I use a Roku
box and stream programmes in HD. Never had a problem so it's not slow
Internet or LAN.

Tried another radio programme, absolutely fine, no crackling or gaps.

Therefore it is Mellow Magic, must have a dry joint somewhere or perhaps
they won't pay for enough bandwidth?

I like the station as they play 60's/70's music and have one presenter per
show so I avoid the modern trend of two presenters spending most of their
time rolling on the floor wetting themselves at the sound of their own
wit. I'll have a poke around and see if I can find something similar to
Mellow Magic.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
We chose to do this not because it is easy but because we thought it would
be easy.

>
> I like the station as they play 60's/70's music and have one presenter
> per show so I avoid the modern trend of two presenters spending most of
> their time rolling on the floor wetting themselves at the sound of their
> own wit. I'll have a poke around and see if I can find something similar
> to Mellow Magic.
>

https://www.radio-uk.co.uk/mellow-magic ?

On 12/03/2024 in message <usp70h$6tm4$2@dont-email.me> Abandoned Trolley
wrote:

>
>>
>>I like the station as they play 60's/70's music and have one presenter
>>per show so I avoid the modern trend of two presenters spending most of
>>their time rolling on the floor wetting themselves at the sound of their
>>own wit. I'll have a poke around and see if I can find something similar
>>to Mellow Magic.
>>
>
>
>https://www.radio-uk.co.uk/mellow-magic ?

That's the one!

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do or
say nothing. (Edmund Burke)

On 12/03/2024 09:18, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 11/03/2024 in message <xn0oj7a3xixulhb00g@news.individual.net> Jeff
> Gaines wrote:
>
>>
>> I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am streaming
>> the radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite crackly.
>>
>> Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring
>> Internet speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what I
>> want.
>
> Many thanks for the replies :-)
>
> I applied a bit of logic. I watch very little live TV now, I use a Roku
> box and stream programmes in HD. Never had a problem so it's not slow
> Internet or LAN.
>
> Tried another radio programme, absolutely fine, no crackling or gaps.
>
> Therefore it is Mellow Magic, must have a dry joint somewhere or perhaps
> they won't pay for enough bandwidth?
>
> I like the station as they play 60's/70's music and have one presenter
> per show so I avoid the modern trend of two presenters spending most of
> their time rolling on the floor wetting themselves at the sound of their
> own wit. I'll have a poke around and see if I can find something similar
> to Mellow Magic.
>

Mellow Magic is available in different audio formats:

http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/query.asp?feedme=Mellow+Magic

One might sound better than the other and switching to the better
sounding one?

Try the MP3 and AAC streams on Radiofeeds and if it doesn't play
properly, that certainly points to a CODEC issue.

On 12/03/2024 in message <usp9pu$6dlt$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

>On 12/03/2024 09:18, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>On 11/03/2024 in message <xn0oj7a3xixulhb00g@news.individual.net> Jeff
>>Gaines wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am streaming the
>>>radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite crackly.
>>>
>>>Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring Internet
>>>speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what I want.
>>
>>Many thanks for the replies :-)
>>
>>I applied a bit of logic. I watch very little live TV now, I use a Roku
>>box and stream programmes in HD. Never had a problem so it's not slow
>>Internet or LAN.
>>
>>Tried another radio programme, absolutely fine, no crackling or gaps.
>>
>>Therefore it is Mellow Magic, must have a dry joint somewhere or perhaps
>>they won't pay for enough bandwidth?
>>
>>I like the station as they play 60's/70's music and have one presenter
>>per show so I avoid the modern trend of two presenters spending most of
>>their time rolling on the floor wetting themselves at the sound of their
>>own wit. I'll have a poke around and see if I can find something similar
>>to Mellow Magic.
>>
>
>
>Mellow Magic is available in different audio formats:
>
>http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/query.asp?feedme=Mellow+Magic
>
>One might sound better than the other and switching to the better sounding
>one?
>
>
>Try the MP3 and AAC streams on Radiofeeds and if it doesn't play properly,
>that certainly points to a CODEC issue.

That is interesting thank you :-)

The manual only mentions "Codec" twice. It says DAB+ uses the MPEG-4 audio
codec (AAC+) and that Bluetooth uses SBC, AAC. However, no option to
choose a codec.

It does have a lot of faked effects like "Cathedral", "Hall in Munich" and
can convert 2 channel stereo to 5 channel surround. I have changed it to
"Straight" to stop any further processing. Unfortunately still has odd
weird noises coming through.

I will keep trying...

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Indecision is the key to flexibility

Jeff Gaines wrote:

> Tried another radio programme, absolutely fine, no crackling or gaps.
>
> Therefore it is Mellow Magic

Maybe google is trying to save my lug 'oles, but it refuses to
acknowledge "mellow magic" exists ... radioplayer finds it and doesn't
sound crackly ...

Andy Burns wrote:

> Maybe google is trying to save my lug 'oles, but it refuses to
> acknowledge "mellow magic" exists ... radioplayer finds it and doesn't
> sound crackly ...

Sorry, three songs was enough ... no crackles though.

On 12/03/2024 in message <l5avcnF7hn6U3@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
wrote:

>Andy Burns wrote:
>
>>Maybe google is trying to save my lug 'oles, but it refuses to
>>acknowledge "mellow magic" exists ... radioplayer finds it and doesn't
>>sound crackly ...
>
>Sorry, three songs was enough ... no crackles though.

You're obviously much too young for it :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Captcha is thinking of stopping the use of pictures with traffic lights as
cyclists don't know what they are.

>> Sorry, three songs was enough ... no crackles though.
>
> You're obviously much too young for it :-)
>

or just not deaf (yet)

On 12/03/2024 in message <uspp2u$b6qh$1@dont-email.me> Abandoned Trolley
wrote:

>
>>>Sorry, three songs was enough ... no crackles though.
>>
>>You're obviously much too young for it :-)
>>
>
>
>or just not deaf (yet)

:-)

The first alternative sounded OK but the third song was Cliff Richard so I
moved on. 24-7 The Sixties has been good so far and no presenter, just non
stop music!

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Did you know on the Canary Islands there is not one canary?
And on the Virgin Islands same thing, not one canary.

On 12/03/2024 11:31, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 12/03/2024 in message <usp9pu$6dlt$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:
>
>> On 12/03/2024 09:18, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2024 in message <xn0oj7a3xixulhb00g@news.individual.net>
>>> Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to check what speed I'm getting over my WiFi. I am
>>>> streaming  the radio as I don't have a DAB aerial, but it is quite
>>>> crackly.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way of doing this? Google translates it as measuring
>>>> Internet speed since many people confuse the two but that's not what
>>>> I  want.
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the replies :-)
>>>
>>> I applied a bit of logic. I watch very little live TV now, I use a
>>> Roku box and stream programmes in HD. Never had a problem so it's not
>>> slow Internet or LAN.
>>>
>>> Tried another radio programme, absolutely fine, no crackling or gaps.
>>>
>>> Therefore it is Mellow Magic, must have a dry joint somewhere or
>>> perhaps they won't pay for enough bandwidth?
>>>
>>> I like the station as they play 60's/70's music and have one
>>> presenter per show so I avoid the modern trend of two presenters
>>> spending most of their time rolling on the floor wetting themselves
>>> at the sound of their own wit. I'll have a poke around and see if I
>>> can find something similar to Mellow Magic.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Mellow Magic is available in different audio formats:
>>
>> http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/query.asp?feedme=Mellow+Magic
>>
>> One might sound better than the other and switching to the better
>> sounding one?
>>
>>
>> Try the MP3 and AAC streams on Radiofeeds and if it doesn't play
>> properly, that certainly points to a CODEC issue.
>
> That is interesting thank you :-)
>
> The manual only mentions "Codec" twice. It says DAB+ uses the MPEG-4
> audio codec (AAC+) and that Bluetooth uses SBC, AAC. However, no option
> to choose a codec.
>
> It does have a lot of faked effects like "Cathedral", "Hall in Munich"
> and can convert 2 channel stereo to 5 channel surround. I have changed
> it to "Straight" to stop any further processing. Unfortunately still has
> odd weird noises coming through.
>
> I will keep trying...
>

A question... What software are you actually using to listen to the
Mellow Magic stream?

If the two radiofeeds streams play OK within the browser, (try other
browsers if need be)

it might be worth trying a different streaming player, I'd start with
VLC or Kodi.

Regarding any missing codecs, you could try and install CCCP (Combined
Community Codec Pack) as that should have *all* codecs included

On 12/03/2024 in message <usq67m$e4g2$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

>>The manual only mentions "Codec" twice. It says DAB+ uses the MPEG-4
>>audio codec (AAC+) and that Bluetooth uses SBC, AAC. However, no option
>>to choose a codec.
>>
>>It does have a lot of faked effects like "Cathedral", "Hall in Munich"
>>and can convert 2 channel stereo to 5 channel surround. I have changed it
>>to "Straight" to stop any further processing. Unfortunately still has odd
>>weird noises coming through.
>>
>>I will keep trying...
>>
>
>
>A question... What software are you actually using to listen to the Mellow
>Magic stream?
>
>If the two radiofeeds streams play OK within the browser, (try other
>browsers if need be)
>
>it might be worth trying a different streaming player, I'd start with VLC
>or Kodi.
>
>Regarding any missing codecs, you could try and install CCCP (Combined
>Community Codec Pack) as that should have all codecs included

Sorry that seems to have become lost somewhere!

It's a Yamaha RX-S601D AV Receiver - effectively a "smart" radio receiver
with a plethora of inputs of different types (including 6 x HDMI) which is
the centre of my home entertainment system. It has several boxes feeding
into it and it extracts the audio and plays it via a couple of
Mordaunt-Short Aviano 1 speakers and passes the picture on to the TV. It
has the latest firmware and as such is not flexible as far as codecs are
concerned.

The station I found played fine all afternoon and I am beginning to think
it is a problem with Mellow Magic.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
We chose to do this not because it is easy but because we thought it would
be easy.

On 12/03/2024 19:25, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 12/03/2024 in message <usq67m$e4g2$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:
>
>>> The manual only mentions "Codec" twice. It says DAB+ uses the MPEG-4
>>> audio codec (AAC+) and that Bluetooth uses SBC, AAC. However, no
>>> option to choose a codec.
>>>
>>> It does have a lot of faked effects like "Cathedral", "Hall in
>>> Munich" and can convert 2 channel stereo to 5 channel surround. I
>>> have changed  it to "Straight" to stop any further processing.
>>> Unfortunately still has  odd weird noises coming through.
>>>
>>> I will keep trying...
>>>
>>
>>
>> A question... What software are you actually using to listen to the
>> Mellow Magic stream?
>>
>> If the two radiofeeds streams play OK within the browser, (try other
>> browsers if need be)
>>
>> it might be worth trying a different streaming player, I'd start with
>> VLC or Kodi.
>>
>> Regarding any missing codecs, you could try and install CCCP (Combined
>> Community Codec Pack) as that should have all codecs included
>
> Sorry that seems to have become lost somewhere!
>
> It's a Yamaha RX-S601D AV Receiver - effectively a "smart" radio
> receiver with a plethora of inputs of different types (including 6 x
> HDMI) which is the centre of my home entertainment system. It has
> several boxes feeding into it and it extracts the audio and plays it via
> a couple of Mordaunt-Short Aviano 1 speakers and passes the picture on
> to the TV. It has the latest firmware and as such is not flexible as far
> as codecs are concerned.
>
> The station I found played fine all afternoon and I am beginning to
> think it is a problem with Mellow Magic.
>

ah ha, you're using an AV reciever and here's me thinking it was PC
related as this is a uk.comp-homebuilt newsgroup...... :-)

Humour me please, what is the radio feeds of Mellow Magic like on a PC
via a web browser and also do they play OK on VLC on a PC?

If it does play better, then perhaps a Roku stick or even a Pi 4 running
Radiofeeds or VLC on one of your 6 HDMI inputs could do a better job of
playing Mellow Magic?

As an aside, isn't Mellow Magic also available on DAB+?

SFX: googles.... aha!

https://media.info/radio/stations/mellow-magic/listen

aha.... two audio links for you to try and you can get Mellow Magic on
DAB+ if you tune into the SDL Mux on 11A which is on 216.928 MHz. The
SDL mux is a national mux so should be recievable with a half reasonable
DAB aerial plugged into your AV reciever and assuming that your AV
reciever supports DAB+

See http://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html#D2

On 12/03/2024 in message <usqmst$hst9$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

>ah ha, you're using an AV reciever and here's me thinking it was PC
>related as this is a uk.comp-homebuilt newsgroup...... :-)

My original question was about measuring network speed but we've moved on
:-)

>Humour me please, what is the radio feeds of Mellow Magic like on a PC via
>a web browser and also do they play OK on VLC on a PC?
>
>If it does play better, then perhaps a Roku stick or even a Pi 4 running
>Radiofeeds or VLC on one of your 6 HDMI inputs could do a better job of
>playing Mellow Magic?

That's worth trying, I'll have a listen via my Roku box later. The box
isn't as easy to control via my Logitech hub as it always starts on the
home page and it's not just a simple case of sending it a string of numbers.

>As an aside, isn't Mellow Magic also available on DAB+?
>
>SFX: googles.... aha!
>
>https://media.info/radio/stations/mellow-magic/listen
>
>aha.... two audio links for you to try and you can get Mellow Magic on
>DAB+ if you tune into the SDL Mux on 11A which is on 216.928 MHz. The SDL
>mux is a national mux so should be recievable with a half reasonable DAB
>aerial plugged into your AV reciever and assuming that your AV reciever
>supports DAB+
>
>See http://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html#D2

I don't have a DAB aerial, streaming avoids having to get one!

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Roses are #FF0000, violets are #0000FF
if you can read this, you're a nerd 10.

On 13/03/2024 10:06, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 12/03/2024 in message <usqmst$hst9$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:
>
>> ah ha, you're using an AV reciever and here's me thinking it was PC
>> related as this is a uk.comp-homebuilt newsgroup...... :-)
>
> My original question was about measuring network speed but we've moved
> on :-)
>
>
>> Humour me please, what is the radio feeds of Mellow Magic like on a PC
>> via a web browser and also do they play OK on VLC on a PC?
>>
>> If it does play better, then perhaps a Roku stick or even a Pi 4
>> running Radiofeeds or VLC on one of your 6 HDMI inputs could do a
>> better job of playing Mellow Magic?
>
> That's worth trying, I'll have a listen via my Roku box later. The box
> isn't as easy to control via my Logitech hub as it always starts on the
> home page and it's not just a simple case of sending it a string of
> numbers.
>
>
>> As an aside, isn't Mellow Magic also available on DAB+?
>>
>> SFX: googles.... aha!
>>
>> https://media.info/radio/stations/mellow-magic/listen
>>
>> aha.... two audio links for you to try and you can get Mellow Magic on
>> DAB+ if you tune into the SDL Mux on 11A which is on 216.928 MHz. The
>> SDL mux is a national mux so should be recievable with a half
>> reasonable DAB aerial plugged into your AV reciever and assuming that
>> your AV reciever supports DAB+
>>
>> See http://www.wohnort.org/dab/uknat.html#D2
>
> I don't have a DAB aerial, streaming avoids having to get one!
>

while I see the attraction of streaming off the internet, what happens
when the internet goes down?

I have a distribution system fed by a FM aerial, a DAB aerial, 4 UHF TV
aerials and 5 off satellite dishes feeding all TVs, radios and PCs that
have tuner cards.....

I also have UPS for power cuts too.

On 13/03/2024 in message <ussua0$13ota$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

>>I don't have a DAB aerial, streaming avoids having to get one!
>>
>
>
>while I see the attraction of streaming off the internet, what happens
>when the internet goes down?
>
>I have a distribution system fed by a FM aerial, a DAB aerial, 4 UHF TV
>aerials and 5 off satellite dishes feeding all TVs, radios and PCs that
>have tuner cards.....
>
>I also have UPS for power cuts too.

The Internet went down for 5 days in the village recently, I managed to
survive without music!

I have a TV aerial and a satellite dish so that's enough for me. I used
the Roku box this afternoon and got solid reception. I will try it
tomorrow again since most of the problems seem to be in the morning.
Difficult to compare as it takes a while to switch from one to t'other.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
If Björn & Benny had been called Syd and Dave then ABBA would have been
called ASDA.

On 13/03/2024 19:39, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 13/03/2024 in message <ussua0$13ota$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:
>
>>> I don't have a DAB aerial, streaming avoids having to get one!
>>>
>>
>>
>> while I see the attraction of streaming off the internet, what happens
>> when the internet goes down?
>>
>> I have a distribution system fed by a FM aerial, a DAB aerial, 4 UHF
>> TV aerials and 5 off satellite dishes feeding all TVs, radios and PCs
>> that have tuner cards.....
>>
>> I also have UPS for power cuts too.
>
> The Internet went down for 5 days in the village recently, I managed to
> survive without music!
>
> I have a TV aerial and a satellite dish so that's enough for me. I used
> the Roku box this afternoon and got solid reception. I will try it
> tomorrow again since most of the problems seem to be in the morning.
> Difficult to compare as it takes a while to switch from one to t'other.
>

Have I have understood you correctly as it seemns you are implying that
the Mellow Magic music quality issues only occurs in the morning AND
only on the AV reciever?

To be honest with you, as Mellow Magic is on the SDL DAB+ mux pretty
much nationally, and at similar power levels as the BBC and Digital 1
ensmebles, I'd be tempted to put in a simple wire about 75 cm long with
one end stripped and poked into the centre pin of the DAB+ aerial
F-connector at the back of the AV reciever and position the wire so it
is vertical and going upwards towards the ceiling.

Then see what Mellow Magic's audio quality is like on the 11A SDL ensemble.

S.

On 14/03/2024 in message <usuf1v$1gv6a$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

>>I have a TV aerial and a satellite dish so that's enough for me. I used
>>the Roku box this afternoon and got solid reception. I will try it
>>tomorrow again since most of the problems seem to be in the morning.
>>Difficult to compare as it takes a while to switch from one to t'other.
>>
>
>
>Have I have understood you correctly as it seemns you are implying that
>the Mellow Magic music quality issues only occurs in the morning AND only
>on the AV reciever?

That seems to be true, cracks and pops mainly (but not exclusively) in the
mornings.

>To be honest with you, as Mellow Magic is on the SDL DAB+ mux pretty much
>nationally, and at similar power levels as the BBC and Digital 1
>ensmebles, I'd be tempted to put in a simple wire about 75 cm long with
>one end stripped and poked into the centre pin of the DAB+ aerial
>F-connector at the back of the AV reciever and position the wire so it is
>vertical and going upwards towards the ceiling.
>
>Then see what Mellow Magic's audio quality is like on the 11A SDL ensemble.

Two bits of good news:

When I turned on the Roku box this morning it immediately switched to the
Roku radio player app, must be something in the app as normally it goes to
the home screen. That would make adding it to the Logitech hub much easier.

It has run perfectly so far, no crackles or pops at all.

The question now is why does the Roku box play Mellow Magic cleanly but
the radio doesn't? The Roku connects to the Tenda Mesh system by WiFi, the
radio is plugged into a Tenda module. I wonder if the module has a
problem? The radio only has a wired connection. I could set up my
powerline network and see what that does.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Indecision is the key to flexibility

On 14/03/2024 10:28, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 14/03/2024 in message <usuf1v$1gv6a$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:
>
>>> I have a TV aerial and a satellite dish so that's enough for me. I
>>> used the Roku box this afternoon and got solid reception. I will try
>>> it tomorrow again since most of the problems seem to be in the
>>> morning. Difficult to compare as it takes a while to switch from one
>>> to t'other.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Have I have understood you correctly as it seemns you are implying
>> that the Mellow Magic music quality issues only occurs in the morning
>> AND only on the AV reciever?
>
> That seems to be true, cracks and pops mainly (but not exclusively) in
> the mornings.
>
>
>> To be honest with you, as Mellow Magic is on the SDL DAB+ mux pretty
>> much nationally, and at similar power levels as the BBC and Digital 1
>> ensmebles, I'd be tempted to put in a simple wire about 75 cm long
>> with one end stripped and poked into the centre pin of the DAB+ aerial
>> F-connector at the back of the AV reciever and position the wire so it
>> is vertical and going upwards towards the ceiling.
>>
>> Then see what Mellow Magic's audio quality is like on the 11A SDL
>> ensemble.
>
> Two bits of good news:
>
> When I turned on the Roku box this morning it immediately switched to
> the Roku radio player app, must be something in the app as normally it
> goes to the home screen. That would make adding it to the Logitech hub
> much easier.
>
> It has run perfectly so far, no crackles or pops at all.
>
> The question now is why does the Roku box play Mellow Magic cleanly but
> the radio doesn't? The Roku connects to the Tenda Mesh system by WiFi,
> the radio is plugged into a Tenda module. I wonder if the module has a
> problem? The radio only has a wired connection. I could set up my
> powerline network and see what that does.
>

Correct me if I am wrong: Am I right in thinking that your AV reciever
has an integrated audio streamer that pulls radio streams off the
internet, and that you can use either wi Fi or an ethernet cable for
internet connectivity?

Do you know *Exactly* what the URL the AV reciever is using for sourcing
the Mellow Magic? Try playing that URL on a PC and see what the audio is
like?

Can you change the URL the AV reciever uses for Mellow Magic for one
that you have listened to on a PC that sounds OK?

Or is it one of those "walled garden" of audio sources that your AV
reciever is tied to?

I have a sony that is tied to the vTuner ecosystem.

Sony stopped paying royalties to vTuner so the internet radio section of
the sony is deader than a dodo!

On 14/03/2024 in message <usvndc$1r5i7$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

>>The question now is why does the Roku box play Mellow Magic cleanly but
>>the radio doesn't? The Roku connects to the Tenda Mesh system by WiFi,
>>the radio is plugged into a Tenda module. I wonder if the module has a
>>problem? The radio only has a wired connection. I could set up my
>>powerline network and see what that does.
>>
>
>
>Correct me if I am wrong: Am I right in thinking that your AV reciever has
>an integrated audio streamer that pulls radio streams off the internet,
>and that you can use either wi Fi or an ethernet cable for internet
>connectivity?

An integrate streamer yes, ethernet cable only.

>Do you know Exactly what the URL the AV reciever is using for sourcing the
>Mellow Magic? Try playing that URL on a PC and see what the audio is like?

No, it's a "black box" as far as that sort of information is concerned.
The firmware is the latest available but hasn't updated for ages.

>Can you change the URL the AV reciever uses for Mellow Magic for one that
>you have listened to on a PC that sounds OK?

No.

>Or is it one of those "walled garden" of audio sources that your AV
>reciever is tied to?

Yes, walled garden.

>I have a sony that is tied to the vTuner ecosystem.
>
>Sony stopped paying royalties to vTuner so the internet radio section of
>the sony is deader than a dodo!

That's one of the reasons I prefer a different box for each function in
theory it's cheaper than replacing one multi function unit.

I suppose I should bring one of my spare machines into service as a media
streamer. It can have Freeview and satellite dish inputs plus streaming
and I would have more control over it. Might be an interesting project?

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.