On 2021 May30, VanguardLH wrote
(in article <19r5y9yozfhiw$.dlg@v.nguard.lh>):

> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>
> > I personally run Edge, new or otherwise, only when I forget that if I
> > click on a link inside the weblink suggestions thrown up by MS’s
> > search box on the task bar, those links open in Edge, no matter what
> > my default browser is.
>
> That is caused by the definition of the ms-edge:// protocol handler in
> the registry. Instead of using http(s):// for the protocol, the
> internal web pages, those linked to by searches, or even sites that use
> them, they use ms-edge:// for the protocol. Many companies have defined
> their own protocols, like Steam, Norton, and so on. Steam uses it to
> load games using their program: click on a steam:// link and the arg is
> passed to their loader. Norton used it to load their HTA (HTML
> Application based on IE libs) which was their user interface to their AV
> (haven't used Norton for a long time, so doubt they still do that).
> Anyone can define their own protocol handler, and then register it in
> the registry. To get around the ms-edge:// protocol handler, you could
> try to figure out how to edit the registry yourself, or you could use:
>
> https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector
>
> Although its author calls it a redirection, it really is registry edits
> to redefine the ms-edge:// handler in the registry to instead load the
> author's .exe which in turn looks at which is defined as the default URL
> (http(s)) handler, and load the URL into that default handler. It
> nullifies the ms-edge:// URL handler to point instead at the author's
> handler which loads whatever is defined as the default web browser.

Thanks. I figured that I’d have to use a Registry hack to stop that
behaviour. MS knows how to irritate.

On Sat, 29 May 2021 14:17:34 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> Whaaat, MS want to track you? Perish the thought!
>
> Do as I do....don't use edge.

Friends don't let friends use... oh, no, that was Internet Explorer.

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On 5/29/21 8:55 AM, ele@thezoo.com wrote:
> Microsoft pushed an update to the Edge browser. They didn't give any
> choice, just pushed it. Now, when you open Edge, you have no choice
> but to go to their website, that's the default. You use to be able
> to open up to a home page (I prefer about:blank). But it's no longer
> available. The browser opens up to Microsoft no matter what setting
> you change.

I usually use Firefox, but tried this on Win10 Edge just now. It updated
and when I restarted it, it opened on MY homepage (definitely MOT
Microsoft). Same thing with the dev version.

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On Sun, 30 May 2021 16:14:18 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:

> On 5/29/21 8:55 AM, ele@thezoo.com wrote:
>> [6 quoted lines suppressed]
>
> I usually use Firefox, but tried this on Win10 Edge just now. It updated
> and when I restarted it, it opened on MY homepage (definitely MOT
> Microsoft). Same thing with the dev version.

I had the same thing happen. Yesterday Edge opened to Microsoft's
selection for my home page - notwithstanding any changes I made in
Settings. Today it is opening to my homepage.

On Sat, 29 May 2021 06:55:21 -0700, ele@thezoo.com wrote:

>Microsoft pushed an update to the Edge browser. They didn't give any
>choice, just pushed it. Now, when you open Edge, you have no choice
>but to go to their website, that's the default. You use to be able
>to open up to a home page (I prefer about:blank). But it's no longer
>available. The browser opens up to Microsoft no matter what setting
>you change.
>
>What a bunch of bull shit!
>
>Looks like I'm going to have to find a new browser. Problem is,
>Edge keeps all your favorite sites in a file that any other browser
>can't access, so I'll have to save each site, manually.
>
>Thanks Microshaft, you know how to piss people off

Nothing happened to me...

Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On 5/29/21 8:55 AM, ele@thezoo.com wrote:
>> Microsoft pushed an update to the Edge browser.  They didn't give any
>> choice, just pushed it.    Now, when you open Edge, you have no choice
>> but to go to their website,  that's the default.    You use to be able
>> to open up to a home page (I prefer about:blank).   But it's no longer
>> available.   The browser opens up to Microsoft no matter what setting
>> you change.
>
> I usually use Firefox, but tried this on Win10 Edge just now. It updated
> and when I restarted it, it opened on MY homepage (definitely MOT
> Microsoft). Same thing with the dev version.
>
This issue has quite a bit of variation from problems being present for
multiple items(Open tabs on Startup, Setting Home page, Search in Address
bar and text in a web page), one or more items, or none.
- Edge like Chrome opens tabs. The Home page is a different setting in
Edge. The Home page setting applies to the configurable 'Home' button.
Setting Edge to open a url that is also your home page is possible, but
its not instructing Edge to open your Home page, but open a tab for that page.

...winston

On Sun, 30 May 2021 05:28:43 -0400, ...w¡ñ§±¤n wrote:

> Edge Cr - 91.0.864.37
> Just needs a Reset, then configure
> And Ensure after, that other settings are intact
> Appearance - Show Home button and Set New Home Page with Home page url entered
> Startup - Open a specific page with url entered
> Close and Open Edge
> - may have to repeat more than once if you deviate from the above sequence.
>
> Once done, if desired, the Show Home button can be toggled off.
>
> Works here with a local html, Google.com, Msn.com
> - any and all combinations of the 3, 2 or 1
>
> Having said the above, it was an annoyance, but fixable.
>
>
> ...winston

Many thanks for that. That worked.

As soon as I set a home page at
"Settings >> Appearance >> Customise toolbar >> Show home button >> Set home page below",
Edge would go to that home page on start-up,
and not to Microsoft's default.

_After_ doing that (but _not_ before), when I set a page at
"Settings >> On start-up >> Open a specific page",
Edge will _now_ go to the "On start-up" page on start-up
and not now to the 'home page' at "Settings >> Appearance >> ...".

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<ele@thezoo.com> wrote in message
news:hhh4bglasg8sd292nk3gne0m69b07k7k1m@4ax.com...
> Microsoft pushed an update to the Edge browser. They didn't give any
> choice, just pushed it. Now, when you open Edge, you have no choice
> but to go to their website, that's the default. You use to be able
> to open up to a home page (I prefer about:blank). But it's no longer
> available. The browser opens up to Microsoft no matter what setting
> you change.
>
> What a bunch of bull shit!
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to find a new browser. Problem is,
> Edge keeps all your favorite sites in a file that any other browser
> can't access, so I'll have to save each site, manually.
>
> Thanks Microshaft, you know how to piss people off

Pale Moon, & I suspect other browsers, still have a user chosen home page.
It works well in Windows 10.

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wasbit

Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Sun, 30 May 2021 05:28:43 -0400, ...w¡ñ§±¤n wrote:
>
>> Edge Cr - 91.0.864.37
>> Just needs a Reset, then configure
>> And Ensure after, that other settings are intact
>> Appearance - Show Home button and Set New Home Page with Home page url entered
>> Startup - Open a specific page with url entered
>> Close and Open Edge
>> - may have to repeat more than once if you deviate from the above sequence.
>>
>> Once done, if desired, the Show Home button can be toggled off.
>>
>> Works here with a local html, Google.com, Msn.com
>> - any and all combinations of the 3, 2 or 1
>>
>> Having said the above, it was an annoyance, but fixable.
>>
>>
>> ...winston
>
>
> Many thanks for that. That worked.
>
> As soon as I set a home page at
> "Settings >> Appearance >> Customise toolbar >> Show home button >> Set home page below",
> Edge would go to that home page on start-up,
> and not to Microsoft's default.
>
> _After_ doing that (but _not_ before), when I set a page at
> "Settings >> On start-up >> Open a specific page",
> Edge will _now_ go to the "On start-up" page on start-up
> and not now to the 'home page' at "Settings >> Appearance >> ...".
>
>
You're welcome.

Just to add - for clarity
Edge when run opens one or more Tabs
A tab can be the same as the configured Home page
The Home page setting when enabled is applicable to the Home Button
- i.e. one configures the Home page for the Home Button

On Sat, 29 May 2021 06:55:21 -0700, in alt.comp.os.windows-10,
ele@thezoo.com wrote:

>Microsoft pushed an update to the Edge browser. They didn't give any
>choice, just pushed it. Now, when you open Edge, you have no choice
>but to go to their website, that's the default. You use to be able
>to open up to a home page (I prefer about:blank). But it's no longer
>available. The browser opens up to Microsoft no matter what setting
>you change.
>
>What a bunch of bull shit!
>
>Looks like I'm going to have to find a new browser. Problem is,
>Edge keeps all your favorite sites in a file that any other browser
>can't access, so I'll have to save each site, manually.
>
>Thanks Microshaft, you know how to piss people off

Type the domain without https://

I just set google to my start page by adding the page:

google.com

If I enter https://www.google.com or http://www.google.com it screws up.

Thanks, Microsoft. The Internet is officially dumber.

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Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On Mon, 31 May 2021 13:22:51 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 May 2021 06:55:21 -0700, in alt.comp.os.windows-10,
>ele@thezoo.com wrote:
>
>>Microsoft pushed an update to the Edge browser. They didn't give any
>>choice, just pushed it. Now, when you open Edge, you have no choice
>>but to go to their website, that's the default. You use to be able
>>to open up to a home page (I prefer about:blank). But it's no longer
>>available. The browser opens up to Microsoft no matter what setting
>>you change.
>>
>>What a bunch of bull shit!
>>
>>Looks like I'm going to have to find a new browser. Problem is,
>>Edge keeps all your favorite sites in a file that any other browser
>>can't access, so I'll have to save each site, manually.
>>
>>Thanks Microshaft, you know how to piss people off
>
>Type the domain without https://
>
>I just set google to my start page by adding the page:
>
>google.com
>
>If I enter https://www.google.com or http://www.google.com it screws up.
>
>Thanks, Microsoft. The Internet is officially dumber.

Sorry, that lasted about three seconds. It's a bug.

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Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On Mon, 31 May 2021 13:24:15 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
wrote:

>>Type the domain without https://
>>
>>I just set google to my start page by adding the page:
>>
>>google.com
>>
>>If I enter https://www.google.com or http://www.google.com it screws up.
>>
>>Thanks, Microsoft. The Internet is officially dumber.
>
>Sorry, that lasted about three seconds. It's a bug.

Okay, now it's working again. Try it. Delete everything, leave out the
protocol.

Try google.com, or www.google.com (or whatever you're using).

about:blank seems to work too.

It's a cock-up, not a conspiracy. Always bet on team cock-up.

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No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On 5/31/2021 11:29 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2021 13:24:15 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
> wrote:
>
>>>Type the domain without https://
>>>
>>>I just set google to my start page by adding the page:
>>>
>>>google.com
>>>
>>>If I enter https://www.google.com or http://www.google.com it screws up.
>>>
>>>Thanks, Microsoft. The Internet is officially dumber.
>>
>>Sorry, that lasted about three seconds. It's a bug.
>
> Okay, now it's working again. Try it. Delete everything, leave out the
> protocol.
>
> Try google.com, or www.google.com (or whatever you're using).

I never use Edge, but out of curiosity, I just tried it and entered all
these URLs. They all worked with a problem.

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Ken Blake wrote:
> On 5/31/2021 11:29 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 13:24:15 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Type the domain without https://
>>>>
>>>> I just set google to my start page by adding the page:
>>>>
>>>> google.com
>>>>
>>>> If I enter https://www.google.com or http://www.google.com it screws up.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Microsoft. The Internet is officially dumber.
>>>
>>> Sorry, that lasted about three seconds. It's a bug.
>>
>> Okay, now it's working again. Try it. Delete everything, leave out the
>> protocol.
>>
>> Try google.com, or www.google.com (or whatever you're using).
>
>
>
> I never use Edge, but out of curiosity, I just tried it and entered all
> these URLs. They all worked with a problem.
>
>

Did you mean 'with' or 'without' a problem?

There's a subset of users, atm, for some unknown reason(other programs,
tweaking, etc.) that the desired configuration doesn't save. Likewise
another subset of users with the problem that is correctable on reset and
reconfiguration. Finally, another group that have fully updated 21H1 and
20H2 that are not seeing the problem.
What's also unkown - is how many of all users actually opened Edge, got
the prompt with two choices - (a)to let Edge decide the settings vs.
(b)Not changing user existing settings....and blew right by the default
selection of (a).

Only one of three devices at this end have experienced the
problem/annoyance with only a reset and re-configure necessary. All
devices fully updated to the latest available May Cumulative update.
All three devices can be reset to Edge defaults then reconfigured to a
user chosen Home page, one or more tabs on Opening and using Google as the
default search engine in the Address bar and on searching by selecting
text in a web page.

....w¡ñ§±¤ñ
msft mvp 2007-2020

On 5/31/2021 9:28 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤n wrote:
> Ken Blake wrote:
>> On 5/31/2021 11:29 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 13:24:15 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Type the domain without https://
>>>>>
>>>>> I just set google to my start page by adding the page:
>>>>>
>>>>> google.com
>>>>>
>>>>> If I enter https://www.google.com or http://www.google.com it screws up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Microsoft. The Internet is officially dumber.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, that lasted about three seconds. It's a bug.
>>>
>>> Okay, now it's working again. Try it. Delete everything, leave out the
>>> protocol.
>>>
>>> Try google.com, or www.google.com (or whatever you're using).
>>
>>
>>
>> I never use Edge, but out of curiosity, I just tried it and entered all
>> these URLs. They all worked with a problem.

Sorry, a typo. Yes, "without" of course.

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