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 by: Commander Kinsey - Wed, 5 Apr 2023 22:57 UTC

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 10:29:30 +0100, FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> David Brooks expressed precisely :
>> On 28/03/2023 05:58, James McDougal wrote:
>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>
>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>
>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>
>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>
>> WOW! How come those images have been released, James?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT_catalog

I'm surprised they haven't tried to take down Wikipedia.

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Wed, 5 Apr 2023 23:47 UTC

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:08:05 +0100, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On 3/28/2023 6:53 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:34:14 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/26/23 23:25, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?
>>>
>>> Why do you assume this is the boot drive. Its labeled "DOCUMENTS" and
>>> the boot drive is not always C.
>>
>> The whole thing doesn't make sense. The left dialog box is of system, which appears to contain a computer and a documents folder, but no drives!
>>
>> The right dialog box is headed "my computer", so it's not looking at just one drive or folder. But it shows a drive C labelled documents which is empty.
>>
>>> BTW, I once had a Windows installation (I think it was w2k) that booted
>>> from E.
>>
>> That far back drive letters meant something. It was ridiculous, you could trash a system by:
>> Take it's C: drive and physically connect it as a second drive to another computer.
>> Boot the other computer. Two C drives? Not allowed, the second one would be changed to D automatically.
>> Return the drive to the original computer. Now it only has a D and can't boot. Almost impossible to fix.
>>
>> So I've no idea how you could boot from E.
>
> On Windows, part of drive identity is stored in the registry.
>
> The Registry can remember things like "serial numbers". This is
> so Plug And Play has space already assigned for parameter storage.
> Then, it does not matter which SATA port a drive is on, it can
> still be set as drive T: if you want. Move it from port to port,
> it is still T: . If it had no serial number, then the identity
> would have to be re-established manually, as you moved from SATA
> port to SATA port.

Works ok until that letters is in use. For example I have an external drive which was always D:. Until I plugged it in when there was a USB stick in first. Then it became E: and stuck that way ever since, bloody annoying.

> Not all drive letters are established by first come, first serve.
> Drive letters could be manually assigned by the user, on a
> previous date. It is the boot drive, which tends to define its
> latter first. And that's how it "tends" to be C: . There is nothing
> magical about the letter C: , the developers name is not Charlie
> or something. It's an enumeration from a pool of letters.

The C: on older versions of Windows was very very important, as I said, if you plugged your C: boot drive into another computer as a second drive, it became D:, and was no longer bootable. That's why you'll find if you clone the system drive with cloning software, it gives it no drive letter, or A:.

> Linux is closer to First Come First Serve, when it comes to the assignment
> of resource identifiers in /dev . The analysis is done in "bus order",
> which is why the identifiers tend to be the same, from boot to boot.
> But the method of population, is dynamic.

That would also go crazy if you happened to plug drives in a different order.

I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other, Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.

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On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.

Is this still true with modern Windows?

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Sat, 15 Apr 2023 18:35 UTC

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 06:32:24 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 06.04.23 um 03:28 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:27:47 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 26.03.23 um 14:18 schrieb Alan B:
>>>> Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I was blissfully
>>>> unaware of the topic until he replied.
>>>
>>> Do you really have a plan?
>>> I did not add anything I just deleted all other NGs. That's what killed
>>> your filter. Your problem not mine.
>>
>> Oh look at all the children playing with their broken filters.
>
> Two weeks after the fact? Idiot.

Why would I respond instantaneously? Unlike you I have a life outside newsgroups. It gets replied to when I get round to it. What's the hurry? It wasn't a discussion about the current football game. Not time sensitive.

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:23 UTC

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>
> Is this still true with modern Windows?

It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs). It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal. Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come back on until I press the power button.

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On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:

> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>
>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>
> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
> back on until I press the power button.

macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
and it does not.

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On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 23:32:39 +0100, FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> Apd presented the following explanation :
>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:08:52 +0100, Apd wrote:
>>>> Another difference from the Win dialog is the "used" and "free" space
>>>> lines are capitalized and swapped around.
>>>>
>>>> That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
>>>> Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate
>>>> skin for the desktop and window furniture.
>>>
>>> Why would they make a fake one instead of just using a real one?
>>
>> If it's set in the future, they may want to make it appear different
>> from any known OS but not so different as to be unrecognisable.
>> Otherwise, who knows. Those desktop folders remind me of a pre-OSX Mac
>> but the central dialog is certainly Windows-based.
>>
>> Another guess: The graphics people only had Macs but most users were
>> more familiar with Windows in 2002 (date of the episode) so they
>> mocked up the UI as best they knew to look like like Win.
>
> Or maybe something like this is simply being avoided.
>
> https://beverlyboy.com/filmmaking/laws-and-regulations-for-product-placement-in-films-on-use/

One of those utterly fucking pathetic laws we should get rid of. A can of coke appears in a film, they're getting free advertising, they have no grounds for complaint!!!

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On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 23:26:52 +0100, Apd <not@all.invalid> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:08:52 +0100, Apd wrote:
>>> Another difference from the Win dialog is the "used" and "free" space
>>> lines are capitalized and swapped around.
>>>
>>> That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
>>> Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate
>>> skin for the desktop and window furniture.
>>
>> Why would they make a fake one instead of just using a real one?
>
> If it's set in the future, they may want to make it appear different
> from any known OS but not so different as to be unrecognisable.
> Otherwise, who knows. Those desktop folders remind me of a pre-OSX Mac
> but the central dialog is certainly Windows-based.

I don't think it was set in the future. That episode was on Earth, and was supposed to be the current time.

> Another guess: The graphics people only had Macs but most users were
> more familiar with Windows in 2002 (date of the episode) so they
> mocked up the UI as best they knew to look like like Win.

Do they have the internet? So easy to search for screenshots of an OS.

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On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>
>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>
>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't
>>>> see how that would work.
>>>
>>>
>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>
>> 32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with that?
>
> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>
> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>
> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>
> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are

Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?

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On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection?  I can't
>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>
>>> 32000 spies.  Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>> that?
>>
>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>
>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>
>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>
>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>
> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?

I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!

Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't
>>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>>
>>>> 32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>>> that?
>>>
>>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>>
>>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>>
>>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>>
>>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>>
>> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
>
> I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
>
> Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!

Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.

You were going to work for the government? Traitor!

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:06:07 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2023 at 11:31:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13ia2npemvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>>>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>>>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>>>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>>>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>>>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>>>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>>>>
>>>>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>>>>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>>>>> and it does not.
>>>>
>>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>>> sake of it.
>>>
>>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>>
>> Many many times.
>
> It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
> Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
> UI focus like they did in the past.

I see the same with Windows. Millions of people are downloading freeware to change the interface to an earlier version. I've got one called startallback.

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On Apr 16, 2023 at 12:37:51 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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>>>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>>>> sake of it.
>>>>
>>>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>>>
>>> Many many times.
>>
>> It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
>> Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
>> UI focus like they did in the past.
>
> I see the same with Windows. Millions of people are downloading freeware to
> change the interface to an earlier version. I've got one called startallback.

I have used similar apps. Yeah... when they went to tiles they went insane.

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 21:35:38 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2023 at 12:37:51 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13id5dcpmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>>>>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>>>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>>>>> sake of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>>>>
>>>> Many many times.
>>>
>>> It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
>>> Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
>>> UI focus like they did in the past.
>>
>> I see the same with Windows. Millions of people are downloading freeware to
>> change the interface to an earlier version. I've got one called startallback.
>
> I have used similar apps. Yeah... when they went to tiles they went insane.

That was easy to turn off, the proper interface remained. What's worse is when they removed most functionality from the start menu. You won't understand as you probably launch from your dock, but I use the desktop for temporary placement of stuff, the taskbar for running programs, and the start menu to start programs. I don't understand people who run programs and start programs form the same place, it's very untidy and you can't clearly see what's what. They took stuff off the start menu like the most recently used system. That's the way I open almost every program.

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>
>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>
>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>
>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>> back on until I press the power button.
>
> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
> and it does not.

All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the sake of it.

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On 16/04/2023 13:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks
> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection?  I
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>>>
>>>>> 32000 spies.  Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>>>
>>>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>>>
>>> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
>>
>> I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
>>
>> Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
>
> Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.

To thyself be true!

> You were going to work for the government?  Traitor!

Instead, I very neary joined the POLICE!

Gosh!

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 13:40:31 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 16/04/2023 13:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks
>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I
>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>>>>
>>>>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>>>>
>>>> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
>>>
>>> I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
>>>
>>> Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
>>
>> Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.
>
> To thyself be true!

Que?

>> You were going to work for the government? Traitor!
>
> Instead, I very neary joined the POLICE!
>
> Gosh!

The police wouldn't know right from wrong if it hit them in the face.

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On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>
>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>
>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>> and it does not.
>
> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
> sake of it.

There are times that is true. Sure.

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>>
>>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>>
>>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>>> and it does not.
>>
>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>> sake of it.
>
> There are times that is true. Sure.

Many many times.

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Subject: Re: Anyone recognise this OS?
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 by: Snit - Sun, 16 Apr 2023 19:06 UTC

On Apr 16, 2023 at 11:31:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13ia2npemvhs6z@ryzen.home>:

> On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>>>
>>>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>>>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>>>> and it does not.
>>>
>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>> sake of it.
>>
>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>
> Many many times.

It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
UI focus like they did in the past.

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