On Fri, 27 May 2022 07:37:05 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 5/27/2022 2:13 AM, JAB wrote:
>> On 26/05/2022 21:08, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>
>>> There is a lot to say about what is wrong in the US.  And there is a
>>> huge number of us in this country who have not given up or are
>>> ignoring the problem.  But here's an example what we are facing in
>>> trying to reign in the violence:
>>>
>>> "Stephen Colbert noted that gun control has widespread bipartisan
>>> popularity, with 90% of voters supporting background checks.
>>>
>>> “The only thing more popular than background checks is Dolly Parton
>>> riding a corgi bringing you free ice cream,” he cracked, and even
>>> offered up an image:
>>>
>>> “And birthday sex,” he added. “With free ice cream.”
>>>
>>> Yet, Republican lawmakers are doing everything they can to block any
>>> attempt to restrict firearms, and they’re offering some absurd
>>> justifications for doing so in the wake of this week’s mass shooting
>>> at a Texas elementary school.
>>>
>>> “We can’t stop bad people from doing bad things,” Texas Attorney
>>> General Ken Paxton said. “They’re going to violate murder laws,
>>> they’re not going to follow gun laws, I’ve never understood that
>>> argument.”
>>>
>>> That left Colbert scratching his head.
>>>
>>> “I gotta say: ‘Laws are pointless’ is a bold position for the attorney
>>> general,” Colbert said. “I think he just announced ‘The Purge.’”"

>>> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/stephen-colbert-rips-dumbest-possible-080133368.html

>> I did see that one and just thought well that's a good point. If you
>> don't have any laws then the crime rate will be non-existent. Maybe have
>> a half-way house where no one is sent to gaol as that clearly doesn't
>> stop people doing bad things!

>> Another one I would have found amusing if it wasn't over such a tragic
>> situation was Ted Cruz being asked by a reporter from Sky News about the
>> issue. The basic response was to try and dodge the question, walk off,
>> then become aggressive and finally basically say if it's so bad why do
>> so many people want to come to the US.

>As for why they come to the US, because at least here they can earn a
>little more money and have a slightly higher chance of surviving being
>shot by a roving drug cartel hit squad or civil war militia.

While the American right-wing party is despicable, their (so-called)
left-wingers aren't much better, seeing as they have (nominal) control
of the Congress and - despite this - decided the best thing to do
following the tragedy was have a recess.

Mind you, if you really wanted to get support for gun control in
America, just start arming black Americans en masse. It's why
California enacted such strict gun control laws in the 70s. Even the
American rifle association was behind stricter gun control laws after
the Black Panthers started legally carrying guns. Start buying any
black person from Ohio - a licenseless open-carry state - a free
assault rifle and see how quickly all those people insisting on the
'unbreachable, constitutionally-protected right to bear arms' start
demanding a more 'nuanced' take on the law.

(It's not a tactic I'd recommend, though, seeing as how poorly
trained, racist and violent are American police... but it is a viable
strategy if you don't care about lives lost).

On 5/27/2022 10:19 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2022 07:37:05 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/27/2022 2:13 AM, JAB wrote:
>>> On 26/05/2022 21:08, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is a lot to say about what is wrong in the US.  And there is a
>>>> huge number of us in this country who have not given up or are
>>>> ignoring the problem.  But here's an example what we are facing in
>>>> trying to reign in the violence:
>>>>
>>>> "Stephen Colbert noted that gun control has widespread bipartisan
>>>> popularity, with 90% of voters supporting background checks.
>>>>
>>>> “The only thing more popular than background checks is Dolly Parton
>>>> riding a corgi bringing you free ice cream,” he cracked, and even
>>>> offered up an image:
>>>>
>>>> “And birthday sex,” he added. “With free ice cream.”
>>>>
>>>> Yet, Republican lawmakers are doing everything they can to block any
>>>> attempt to restrict firearms, and they’re offering some absurd
>>>> justifications for doing so in the wake of this week’s mass shooting
>>>> at a Texas elementary school.
>>>>
>>>> “We can’t stop bad people from doing bad things,” Texas Attorney
>>>> General Ken Paxton said. “They’re going to violate murder laws,
>>>> they’re not going to follow gun laws, I’ve never understood that
>>>> argument.”
>>>>
>>>> That left Colbert scratching his head.
>>>>
>>>> “I gotta say: ‘Laws are pointless’ is a bold position for the attorney
>>>> general,” Colbert said. “I think he just announced ‘The Purge.’”"
>
>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/stephen-colbert-rips-dumbest-possible-080133368.html
>
>>> I did see that one and just thought well that's a good point. If you
>>> don't have any laws then the crime rate will be non-existent. Maybe have
>>> a half-way house where no one is sent to gaol as that clearly doesn't
>>> stop people doing bad things!
>
>>> Another one I would have found amusing if it wasn't over such a tragic
>>> situation was Ted Cruz being asked by a reporter from Sky News about the
>>> issue. The basic response was to try and dodge the question, walk off,
>>> then become aggressive and finally basically say if it's so bad why do
>>> so many people want to come to the US.
>
>> As for why they come to the US, because at least here they can earn a
>> little more money and have a slightly higher chance of surviving being
>> shot by a roving drug cartel hit squad or civil war militia.
>
> While the American right-wing party is despicable, their (so-called)
> left-wingers aren't much better, seeing as they have (nominal) control
> of the Congress and - despite this - decided the best thing to do
> following the tragedy was have a recess.
>
> Mind you, if you really wanted to get support for gun control in
> America, just start arming black Americans en masse. It's why
> California enacted such strict gun control laws in the 70s. Even the
> American rifle association was behind stricter gun control laws after
> the Black Panthers started legally carrying guns. Start buying any
> black person from Ohio - a licenseless open-carry state - a free
> assault rifle and see how quickly all those people insisting on the
> 'unbreachable, constitutionally-protected right to bear arms' start
> demanding a more 'nuanced' take on the law.
>
> (It's not a tactic I'd recommend, though, seeing as how poorly
> trained, racist and violent are American police... but it is a viable
> strategy if you don't care about lives lost).
>
Texas would be a better place to do that.

As for "the liberals" controlling the government, ya, not really. Their
control of the Senate is in theory only and not real because of the
current Filibuster Rule. I'm not going to try to explain it, if you are
curious there are plenty of places on the web that will explain it. A
few of them might even do so accurately.

As for recess, those are regularly scheduled, actually do have good
reason for existing and what would be the point of cancelling it when
everyone already knows nothing will get done?

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