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 by: Newyana2 - Mon, 11 Mar 2024 02:41 UTC

"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote

| Hey, old timer, while you were asleep, the speaker-monkeys
| have been busy. You're 20 speakers behind!!!
|

I guess I'm just not much of a connoisseur. I had a Radio
Shack casette deck on which I happily played Jethro Tull
until my parents started yelling.

Today I download old movies with the likes of Gary Cooper
or Cary Grant, in 640x480, and stream them to a 32" 720p
TV. They look great to me. Though I think the library DVD
versions probably render the B/W films better. With a good
movie I just forget to notice.

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 by: jackpat...@astraweb.com - Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:26 UTC

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 22:39:10 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <usa65c$gv0u$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 11:38:00,
>Newyana2 <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> writes
>[]
>> I'm an oldtimer in years for some people. I'm not really
>>a computer oldtimer. My first computer to speak of
>>was Win98. My first backup tools were Partition Magic
>>and Drive Image. I don't do command-line unless I absolutely
>>have to. Life's too short.
>[]
>While for backup I find Macrium - with its GUI - more than adequate for
>my needs, I don't reject command-line for everything. Sometimes there's
>a command-line utility that's just so much better than the GUI
>alternatives.
>

>I have two conflicting examples: ffmpeg is, I am sure, a very powerful
>utility, for all sorts of audio and video conversions. However, I've got
>several GUI utilities that I know are based on it - at least, they
>include ffmpeg.exe (or similar) among the other files that come with
>them. They do most of what I want - i. e. there, I agree: life's too
>short. On the other hand, yt-dlp is IMO excellent at what it does, but
>the odd GUI wrapper for it that I've tried don't cut the mustard, so I
>use its command-line version (mainly without any parameters). I've
>mostly got muscle memory - I leave a command window open, and have got
>used to copying the URL, then "y space alt-space E P" to use it (I've
>renamed it from yt-dlp to just y).

Using alt-space + E to activate the Window edit menu = clever

(I wrote an Autohotkey script that loads on startup to do the CTRL-V function on the command line when
called)

jim

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On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:24:30 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <i0rnuihk0slbmrjarvl4drn62rfjcvbl52@4ax.com> at Fri, 8 Mar
>2024 23:58:34, gfretwell@aol.com writes
>>On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 00:13:32 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>>wrote:
>[]
>>>I've now installed 3dyd, and the first YT URL I tried it on - a quite
>>>innocent one - failed.
>>
>>I use Wonderfox HD Converter and it will let you download anything it
>>can read.
>
>I can't remember the last time yt-dlp didn't work for me (I think it
>might have been a vimeo page).
>

Occasionally, i have one fail on me.
I get something akin to "ERROR - unsupported URL, yada-yada"
I have a feeling that the owner does a redirect or re-creation (of the URL) that YTL-DP can't handle
(but that is just conjecture on my part). It is often on a Paid Access file.

I must look into this 3dyd.....

..
>"Converter" suggests that's its primary purpose - can Wonderfox download
>_without_ doing any conversion?

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:53 UTC

In message <ckgb0j5falv6984t9tj69mf9uks1p7lc1c@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
2024 15:26:48, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 22:39:10 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
[]
>>them. They do most of what I want - i. e. there, I agree: life's too
>>short. On the other hand, yt-dlp is IMO excellent at what it does, but
>>the odd GUI wrapper for it that I've tried don't cut the mustard, so I
>>use its command-line version (mainly without any parameters). I've
>>mostly got muscle memory - I leave a command window open, and have got
>>used to copying the URL, then "y space alt-space E P" to use it (I've
>>renamed it from yt-dlp to just y).
>
>Using alt-space + E to activate the Window edit menu = clever

(Maybe being left-handed [I'm in UK, so don't have right-Alt] makes it
easier.)
>
>(I wrote an Autohotkey script that loads on startup to do the CTRL-V
>function on the command line when
>called)

Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7, so I'd got
used to using the above method. (The Alt-Space menu has been there since
at least Windows 3.1, but few know about it these days!) I was
continuing to use it under W10 (where it still works) on someone else's
machine, though discovered that ^V _does_ work in the command window
under 10.
>
>jim
>
>
John
--
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 by: jackpat...@astraweb.com - Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:42 UTC

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:53:32 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>>(I wrote an Autohotkey script that loads on startup to do the CTRL-V
>>function on the command line when
>>called)
>
>Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7,

It does with

1. The autohotkey.exe
and
2. this script in startup

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FILE: C:\!rootstuff\ahk_scripts\cntrlv_cmd.ahk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#IfWinActive ahk_class ConsoleWindowClass
^V::
SendInput {Raw}%clipboard%
return
#IfWinActive

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

jim

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:52 UTC

In message <t7lb0jp94mvf5jeeugb7ir6gv6ivqsn8kr@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
2024 16:42:18, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:53:32 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>>(I wrote an Autohotkey script that loads on startup to do the CTRL-V
>>>function on the command line when
>>>called)
>>
>>Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7,
>
>
>It does with
>
>1. The autohotkey.exe
>and
[]
I don't have that file anywhere on my system.
--
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* SLMR 2.1a #113 * Tits like watermelons, sparrows like bacon rind.
- 03-22-97 Dave Beecham <dave.beecham@pandbox.demon.co.uk> (quoted by
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 by: Frank Slootweg - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:38 UTC

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <ckgb0j5falv6984t9tj69mf9uks1p7lc1c@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
> 2024 15:26:48, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
> >On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 22:39:10 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> []
> >>them. They do most of what I want - i. e. there, I agree: life's too
> >>short. On the other hand, yt-dlp is IMO excellent at what it does, but
> >>the odd GUI wrapper for it that I've tried don't cut the mustard, so I
> >>use its command-line version (mainly without any parameters). I've
> >>mostly got muscle memory - I leave a command window open, and have got
> >>used to copying the URL, then "y space alt-space E P" to use it (I've
> >>renamed it from yt-dlp to just y).
> >
> >Using alt-space + E to activate the Window edit menu = clever
>
> (Maybe being left-handed [I'm in UK, so don't have right-Alt] makes it
> easier.)
> >
> >(I wrote an Autohotkey script that loads on startup to do the CTRL-V
> >function on the command line when
> >called)
>
> Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7, so I'd got
> used to using the above method. (The Alt-Space menu has been there since
> at least Windows 3.1, but few know about it these days!) I was
> continuing to use it under W10 (where it still works) on someone else's
> machine, though discovered that ^V _does_ work in the command window
> under 10.

I don't know what exactly you are doing, but if it's about pasting in
a Command Prompt window, that's also possible with a right-click. I.e.
copy some text from somewhere and paste it with a right-click.

For that to work, you have to set 'QuickEdit Mode' in the Properties
of the Command Prompt window (and make it stick).

Windows 10 has indeed a setting to enable Ctrl+Shift+V (note Shift)
pasting, but right-click pasting has been there since Vista and perhaps
XP.

N.B. Copying in QuickEdit Mode works by highlighting (I use the
'mouse' for that) and then pressing the 'enter' key.

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 by: jackpat...@astraweb.com - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:32 UTC

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:52:57 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <t7lb0jp94mvf5jeeugb7ir6gv6ivqsn8kr@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
>2024 16:42:18, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:53:32 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>(I wrote an Autohotkey script that loads on startup to do the CTRL-V
>>>>function on the command line when
>>>>called)
>>>
>>>Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7,
>>
>>
>>It does with
>>
>>1. The autohotkey.exe
>>and
>[]
>I don't have that file anywhere on my system.

https://www.autohotkey.com
AutoHotkey
AutoHotkey is a free, open-source scripting language for Windows that allows users to easily create
small to complex scripts for all kinds of tasks such as: form fillers, auto-clicking, macros, etc. LEARN
MORE.

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:31 UTC

In message <uu6qq9.buc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> at Fri, 29 Mar
2024 15:38:45, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes
[]
>> Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7, so I'd got
>> used to using the above method. (The Alt-Space menu has been there since
>> at least Windows 3.1, but few know about it these days!) I was
>> continuing to use it under W10 (where it still works) on someone else's
>> machine, though discovered that ^V _does_ work in the command window
>> under 10.
>
> I don't know what exactly you are doing, but if it's about pasting in
>a Command Prompt window, that's also possible with a right-click. I.e.
>copy some text from somewhere and paste it with a right-click.
>
> For that to work, you have to set 'QuickEdit Mode' in the Properties
>of the Command Prompt window (and make it stick).

I had that mode set, and sure enough, right-click does work! I'll try to
remember that. Though may try the autohotkey method too, as if I'm using
the keyboard anyway, I don't want to switch to the "mouse".
[]
> N.B. Copying in QuickEdit Mode works by highlighting (I use the
>'mouse' for that) and then pressing the 'enter' key.

Yes. I do use that sometimes, but find it very non-intuitive!
--
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what - recession? Up north? What we gonna have - more nowt?
(News Quiz 2013-7-26)

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:53 UTC

In message <q82e0jl5sff8v2501cd2gdjl1b055oirdt@4ax.com> at Fri, 29 Mar
2024 14:32:53, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:52:57 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <t7lb0jp94mvf5jeeugb7ir6gv6ivqsn8kr@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
>>2024 16:42:18, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:53:32 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
[]
>>>>Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7,
>>>
>>>
>>>It does with
>>>
>>>1. The autohotkey.exe
>>>and
>>[]
>>I don't have that file anywhere on my system.
>
>https://www.autohotkey.com
>AutoHotkey
>AutoHotkey is a free, open-source scripting language for Windows that
>allows users to easily create
>small to complex scripts for all kinds of tasks such as: form fillers,
>auto-clicking, macros, etc. LEARN
>MORE.
>
Thanks. I downloaded and ran it, and copied the script from your earlier
post into a .ahk in my Startup folder. (Rather than restart, )I just
clicked on it, and got

It looks like the script you are trying to run requires
AutoHotkey v1, which is not installed.
If the version has been misidentified, please add a #Requires
directive to your script file.

Script: cntrlv_cmd.ahk
Rule: v1-dir v1-hk v1-send

which is all Greek to me.
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J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <uu6qq9.buc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> at Fri, 29 Mar
> 2024 15:38:45, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes
> []
> >> Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7, so I'd got
> >> used to using the above method. (The Alt-Space menu has been there since
> >> at least Windows 3.1, but few know about it these days!) I was
> >> continuing to use it under W10 (where it still works) on someone else's
> >> machine, though discovered that ^V _does_ work in the command window
> >> under 10.
> >
> > I don't know what exactly you are doing, but if it's about pasting in
> >a Command Prompt window, that's also possible with a right-click. I.e.
> >copy some text from somewhere and paste it with a right-click.
> >
> > For that to work, you have to set 'QuickEdit Mode' in the Properties
> >of the Command Prompt window (and make it stick).
>
> I had that mode set, and sure enough, right-click does work! I'll try to
> remember that. Though may try the autohotkey method too, as if I'm using
> the keyboard anyway, I don't want to switch to the "mouse".

Yes, depending on the situation, I use the keyboard or keyboard+mouse.

For example both my newsreader (tin) and editor (vim) are keyboard
driven, so when reading/posting news, I mostly use the keyboard, not the
mouse. The only mousing is for selecting/'highlighting' some text, but
even that can often be done with the keyboard.

> []
> > N.B. Copying in QuickEdit Mode works by highlighting (I use the
> >'mouse' for that) and then pressing the 'enter' key.
>
> Yes. I do use that sometimes, but find it very non-intuitive!

You can say that again, very, very, non-intuitive! But if Newyana2
isn't watching, we get away with it! :-)

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On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 07:34:21 -0500, "Newyana2" <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:

>"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote
>
>
>| (Again, I presume you keep it open, otherwise it's slightly more than
>| copy, paste, click.)
>
> Ah, you caught me. Yes, I have to double-click first,
>to open the HTA. Then I rest up, then copy and paste. :)
............................... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

LOL.

>
> I haven't actually used it for quite awhile. The latest
>versions don't work on XP and keep hanging on Win7.
>3DYD has neither problem.
>
>
>

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:53:44 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <q82e0jl5sff8v2501cd2gdjl1b055oirdt@4ax.com> at Fri, 29 Mar
>2024 14:32:53, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:52:57 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <t7lb0jp94mvf5jeeugb7ir6gv6ivqsn8kr@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
>>>2024 16:42:18, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:53:32 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>[]
>>>>>Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It does with
>>>>
>>>>1. The autohotkey.exe
>>>>and
>>>[]
>>>I don't have that file anywhere on my system.
>>
>>https://www.autohotkey.com
>>AutoHotkey
>>AutoHotkey is a free, open-source scripting language for Windows that
>>allows users to easily create
>>small to complex scripts for all kinds of tasks such as: form fillers,
>>auto-clicking, macros, etc. LEARN
>>MORE.
>>
>Thanks. I downloaded and ran it, and copied the script from your earlier
>post into a .ahk in my Startup folder. (Rather than restart, )I just
>clicked on it, and got
>
> It looks like the script you are trying to run requires
> AutoHotkey v1, which is not installed.
> If the version has been misidentified, please add a #Requires
> directive to your script file.
>
> Script: cntrlv_cmd.ahk
> Rule: v1-dir v1-hk v1-send
>
>which is all Greek to me.

It's more of a cyrillic language to me. I must have lucked out and gotten the right software mix so
that it worked.

I suppose you have rebooted so that it is now running........

My task manager shows AutoHotKey.exe running

Also, 3dyd worked out of the box. I did some informal testing this morning and believe I will stick
with ytl-dp for the most part.

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In message <5pbg0jdqbsmmepq02obqp8op4p1jld9nrf@4ax.com> at Sat, 30 Mar
2024 12:00:50, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:53:44 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <q82e0jl5sff8v2501cd2gdjl1b055oirdt@4ax.com> at Fri, 29 Mar
>>2024 14:32:53, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:52:57 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <t7lb0jp94mvf5jeeugb7ir6gv6ivqsn8kr@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
>>>>2024 16:42:18, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:53:32 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>[]
>>>>>>Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It does with
>>>>>
>>>>>1. The autohotkey.exe
>>>>>and
>>>>[]
>>>>I don't have that file anywhere on my system.
>>>
>>>https://www.autohotkey.com
>>>AutoHotkey
>>>AutoHotkey is a free, open-source scripting language for Windows that
>>>allows users to easily create
>>>small to complex scripts for all kinds of tasks such as: form fillers,
>>>auto-clicking, macros, etc. LEARN
>>>MORE.
>>>
>>Thanks. I downloaded and ran it, and copied the script from your earlier
>>post into a .ahk in my Startup folder. (Rather than restart, )I just
>>clicked on it, and got
>>
>> It looks like the script you are trying to run requires
>> AutoHotkey v1, which is not installed.
>> If the version has been misidentified, please add a #Requires
>> directive to your script file.
>>
>> Script: cntrlv_cmd.ahk
>> Rule: v1-dir v1-hk v1-send
>>
>>which is all Greek to me.
>
>It's more of a cyrillic language to me. I must have lucked out and
>gotten the right software mix so
>that it worked.

(-:
>
>I suppose you have rebooted so that it is now running........

No. I reboot once in a blue moon.
>
>My task manager shows AutoHotKey.exe running

Mine doesn't, presumably because of the above error (I'm assuming if the
..ahk file had "run" without error, I'd find AHK.exe running).
>
>Also, 3dyd worked out of the box. I did some informal testing this
>morning and believe I will stick
>with ytl-dp for the most part.
>
Just trying again - it failed with a twitter page, but this time
succeeded with a YouTube one! Didn't put it where I wanted, and I can't
see anywhere to set that (only where to put temporary files). It has
created a 17M file whereas last time (presumably I used yt-dlp) was an
11M file (from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnLnwWjrIyk&t=23s); the
audio and video resolutions are the same, so I can't tell what I'm
getting for the extra 6M. I think I too will stick with y, but useful to
know 3 does work sometimes: I'll keep it to try when y doesn't. Or maybe
for very big files, as I think y may operate fewer streams at once.
--
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:00:43 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <5pbg0jdqbsmmepq02obqp8op4p1jld9nrf@4ax.com> at Sat, 30 Mar
>2024 12:00:50, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:53:44 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <q82e0jl5sff8v2501cd2gdjl1b055oirdt@4ax.com> at Fri, 29 Mar
>>>2024 14:32:53, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:52:57 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In message <t7lb0jp94mvf5jeeugb7ir6gv6ivqsn8kr@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
>>>>>2024 16:42:18, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>>>>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:53:32 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>>>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>[]
>>>>>>>Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It does with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. The autohotkey.exe
>>>>>>and
>>>>>[]
>>>>>I don't have that file anywhere on my system.
>>>>
>>>>https://www.autohotkey.com
>>>>AutoHotkey
>>>>AutoHotkey is a free, open-source scripting language for Windows that
>>>>allows users to easily create
>>>>small to complex scripts for all kinds of tasks such as: form fillers,
>>>>auto-clicking, macros, etc. LEARN
>>>>MORE.
>>>>
>>>Thanks. I downloaded and ran it, and copied the script from your earlier
>>>post into a .ahk in my Startup folder. (Rather than restart, )I just
>>>clicked on it, and got
>>>
>>> It looks like the script you are trying to run requires
>>> AutoHotkey v1, which is not installed.
>>> If the version has been misidentified, please add a #Requires
>>> directive to your script file.
>>>
>>> Script: cntrlv_cmd.ahk
>>> Rule: v1-dir v1-hk v1-send
>>>
>>>which is all Greek to me.
>>
>>It's more of a cyrillic language to me. I must have lucked out and
>>gotten the right software mix so
>>that it worked.
>
>(-:
>>
>>I suppose you have rebooted so that it is now running........
>
>No. I reboot once in a blue moon.
>>
>>My task manager shows AutoHotKey.exe running
>
>Mine doesn't, presumably because of the above error (I'm assuming if the
>.ahk file had "run" without error, I'd find AHK.exe running).
>>
>>Also, 3dyd worked out of the box. I did some informal testing this
>>morning and believe I will stick
>>with ytl-dp for the most part.
>>
>Just trying again - it failed with a twitter page, but this time
>succeeded with a YouTube one! Didn't put it where I wanted, and I can't
>see anywhere to set that (only where to put temporary files). It has
>created a 17M file whereas last time (presumably I used yt-dlp) was an
>11M file (from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnLnwWjrIyk&t=23s); the
>audio and video resolutions are the same, so I can't tell what I'm
>getting for the extra 6M. I think I too will stick with y, but useful to
>know 3 does work sometimes: I'll keep it to try when y doesn't. Or maybe
>for very big files, as I think y may operate fewer streams at once.

At startup i load 2 .ahk files, but the native taskmngr application shows two instances of
autohotkey.exe running as processes -- not the scripts. (I also use the startup folder.)
Autohotkey.exe is where it was originally installed in C:\PROGRAM FILES

---

I also had size differences on youtube downloads between 3dyd and yt-dlp

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On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:34:39 -0500, "Newyana2" <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:

>"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote
>
>| Now having a look at 3DYD. Did you know it forbids accessing
>| pornographic content? (-: [https://www.3dyd.com/terms/, which you agree
>| to during installation!]
>
> I don't remember installing it. There is an EULA in the folder,
>but no sign of porn warnings in it.
>

https://www.3dyd.com/terms/

"Accessing pornographic content or such content that infringes any right in any other way is forbidden.
In case a third party right is already violated by downloading the content, the user bears complete
responsibility for this as he started the processing of the data in question."

must have a site blacklist in the .exe because it just refused a url for xhamster.com and still having
said url on the clipboard, i stuck it into yt-dlp which happily began downloading it until i canceled
with ctrl-c. 3dyd said: "no video found on xhamster.com" or something similar.

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 08:25 UTC

In message <ffih0jp386np962ukne34fe7khqt28ugko@4ax.com> at Sat, 30 Mar
2024 22:49:39, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
[]
>At startup i load 2 .ahk files, but the native taskmngr application
>shows two instances of
>autohotkey.exe running as processes -- not the scripts. (I also use
>the startup folder.)

(Yes, it seemed the obvious place for it.) I guess if it had run without
the error, I _would_ have AHK.exe as a running process. I guess I could
go back to the AHK website and get version 1, but I think I'll just
stick with alt-space E P - I do that by muscle memory now.

>Autohotkey.exe is where it was originally installed in C:\PROGRAM FILES
>
Mine's in C:\Program Files\AutoHotkey\v2\AutoHotkey.exe - where I
presume it installed itself.
>---
>
>I also had size differences on youtube downloads between 3dyd and yt-dlp
>
Interesting!
>
I've left 3dyd installed as a reserve downloader.
>
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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 09:00 UTC

In message <26kh0jt3h5noj38mibbn2g0mg6ha1qrqh8@4ax.com> at Sat, 30 Mar
2024 23:11:22, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:34:39 -0500, "Newyana2" <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>
>>"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote
>>
>>| Now having a look at 3DYD. Did you know it forbids accessing
>>| pornographic content? (-: [https://www.3dyd.com/terms/," rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.3dyd.com/terms/, which you agree
>>| to during installation!]
>>
>> I don't remember installing it. There is an EULA in the folder,
>>but no sign of porn warnings in it.
>>
We draw your attention to clause 8 therein!
>
>https://www.3dyd.com/terms/
>
>"Accessing pornographic content or such content that infringes any
>right in any other way is forbidden.
>In case a third party right is already violated by downloading the
>content, the user bears complete
>responsibility for this as he started the processing of the data in question."
>
>must have a site blacklist in the .exe because it just refused a url
>for xhamster.com and still having

Interesting! [That will cause some people to go to the .exe and examine
it for a list of interesting sites! (-: (Though it's probably encoded.)]

>said url on the clipboard, i stuck it into yt-dlp which happily began
>downloading it until i canceled

Of course you did (-:

>with ctrl-c. 3dyd said: "no video found on xhamster.com" or something similar.
>
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 09:25:17 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

> I think I'll just
>stick with alt-space E P - I do that by muscle memory now.

nice term for what I call "instilled instinct" and I most often apply that term to driving: braking or
obstacle avoidance. That is, a description of something that bypasses conscious thought and decision
making and simply "happens" when presented with the stimulus.

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On 29 Mar 2024 15:38:45 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> In message <ckgb0j5falv6984t9tj69mf9uks1p7lc1c@4ax.com> at Thu, 28 Mar
>> 2024 15:26:48, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>> >On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 22:39:10 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> []
>> >>them. They do most of what I want - i. e. there, I agree: life's too
>> >>short. On the other hand, yt-dlp is IMO excellent at what it does, but
>> >>the odd GUI wrapper for it that I've tried don't cut the mustard, so I
>> >>use its command-line version (mainly without any parameters). I've
>> >>mostly got muscle memory - I leave a command window open, and have got
>> >>used to copying the URL, then "y space alt-space E P" to use it (I've
>> >>renamed it from yt-dlp to just y).
>> >
>> >Using alt-space + E to activate the Window edit menu = clever
>>
>> (Maybe being left-handed [I'm in UK, so don't have right-Alt] makes it
>> easier.)
>> >
>> >(I wrote an Autohotkey script that loads on startup to do the CTRL-V
>> >function on the command line when
>> >called)
>>
>> Ctrl-V for paste doesn't work in the command window under 7, so I'd got
>> used to using the above method. (The Alt-Space menu has been there since
>> at least Windows 3.1, but few know about it these days!) I was
>> continuing to use it under W10 (where it still works) on someone else's
>> machine, though discovered that ^V _does_ work in the command window
>> under 10.
>
> I don't know what exactly you are doing, but if it's about pasting in
>a Command Prompt window, that's also possible with a right-click. I.e.
>copy some text from somewhere and paste it with a right-click.
>
> For that to work, you have to set 'QuickEdit Mode' in the Properties
>of the Command Prompt window (and make it stick).
>
> Windows 10 has indeed a setting to enable Ctrl+Shift+V (note Shift)
>pasting, but right-click pasting has been there since Vista and perhaps
>XP.
>
> N.B. Copying in QuickEdit Mode works by highlighting (I use the
>'mouse' for that) and then pressing the 'enter' key.

Interesting. It works just as you said. I was previously unaware of that.

cmd-window --> properties --> Options -->
check box next to "Quikedit Mode"

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 20:43 UTC

In message <h4gi0jtojcitb9nm3ajpu7l68lvipte7dl@4ax.com> at Sun, 31 Mar
2024 07:03:16, jackpatton@astraweb.com writes
>On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 09:25:17 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>> I think I'll just
>>stick with alt-space E P - I do that by muscle memory now.
>
>nice term for what I call "instilled instinct" and I most often apply
>that term to driving: braking or
>obstacle avoidance. That is, a description of something that bypasses
>conscious thought and decision
>making and simply "happens" when presented with the stimulus.
>
Yes, and a lot of driving with a manual gearbox (transmission) too. I
didn't invent the term: it's one I've seen a lot in the context of
computer stuff, for things that one has done for a long time. Walking is
another one (if you actually try to describe walking, you'll fall over).
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