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by: Lynn McGuire - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:32 UTC

Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:

1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
15. “Going Home” by A. American
16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
19. “The Postman” by David Brin
20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller

Lynn

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by: WolfFan - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:56 UTC

On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
(in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):

> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>
> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber

Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>
> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling

major plot hole due to physics
>
> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo

too many guns
>
> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo

he really loves things that go boom
>
> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>
> Lynn

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by: Andrew McDowell - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:59 UTC

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 1:56:26 PM UTC+1, WolfFan wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1...@dont-email.me>):
> > Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
> >
> > 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
> >
> > 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
> > 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> > 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> > 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> > 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> > 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
> major plot hole due to physics
> >
> > 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> > 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> > 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
> too many guns
> >
> > 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
> he really loves things that go boom
> >
> > 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> > 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> > 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> > 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> > 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> > 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> > 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> > 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> > 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> > 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> > 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> > 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> > 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> > 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> > 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> > 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
> >
> > Lynn
IF you really love things that go boom, I recommend the "Monster Hunter International" series, starting with the book of that name. Full of loving descriptions of guns, which I suspect are also pretty accurate, though I am no expert. Otherwise reasonably entertaining, but nothing special. The spin off Monster Hunter Memoirs: Grunge series is very amusing, and I recommend it. I've just had a look at the free sample on Baen of the new Monster Hunter Memoirs: Fever. It is not by the same collaboration as Grunge and it doesn't have the same feel, but the sample grew on me as I read through it, and I will probably buy it when it comes out fully. I like the line "personally I see having issues with authority a trait that all patriotic Americans should share"

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by: Lynn McGuire - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:24 UTC

On 9/26/2023 7:56 AM, WolfFan wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>
>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>
> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>
>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>
> major plot hole due to physics
>>
>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>
> too many guns
>>
>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>
> he really loves things that go boom
>>
>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>
>> Lynn

I have a very high suspension of disbelief.

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:25 UTC

On 9/26/2023 1:59 PM, Andrew McDowell wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 1:56:26 PM UTC+1, WolfFan wrote:
>> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
>> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1...@dont-email.me>):
>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>
>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>>
>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>> major plot hole due to physics
>>>
>>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>> too many guns
>>>
>>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>> he really loves things that go boom
>>>
>>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>>
>>> Lynn
> IF you really love things that go boom, I recommend the "Monster Hunter International" series, starting with the book of that name. Full of loving descriptions of guns, which I suspect are also pretty accurate, though I am no expert. Otherwise reasonably entertaining, but nothing special. The spin off Monster Hunter Memoirs: Grunge series is very amusing, and I recommend it. I've just had a look at the free sample on Baen of the new Monster Hunter Memoirs: Fever. It is not by the same collaboration as Grunge and it doesn't have the same feel, but the sample grew on me as I read through it, and I will probably buy it when it comes out fully. I like the line "personally I see having issues with authority a trait that all patriotic Americans should share"

I am very tempted to add Monster Hunter International to my Top Ten
list. Great series, not a bad book in the bunch.

Lynn

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by: Tony Nance - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:02 UTC

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:25:33 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 9/26/2023 1:59 PM, Andrew McDowell wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 1:56:26 PM UTC+1, WolfFan wrote:
> >> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
> >> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1...@dont-email.me>):
> >>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
> >>>
> >>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
> >> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
> >>>
> >>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
> >>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> >>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> >>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> >>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> >>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
> >> major plot hole due to physics
> >>>
> >>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> >>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> >>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
> >> too many guns
> >>>
> >>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
> >> he really loves things that go boom
> >>>
> >>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> >>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> >>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> >>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> >>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> >>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> >>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> >>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> >>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> >>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> >>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> >>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> >>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> >>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> >>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> >>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
> >>>
> >>> Lynn
> > IF you really love things that go boom, I recommend the "Monster Hunter International" series, starting with the book of that name. Full of loving descriptions of guns, which I suspect are also pretty accurate, though I am no expert. Otherwise reasonably entertaining, but nothing special. The spin off Monster Hunter Memoirs: Grunge series is very amusing, and I recommend it. I've just had a look at the free sample on Baen of the new Monster Hunter Memoirs: Fever. It is not by the same collaboration as Grunge and it doesn't have the same feel, but the sample grew on me as I read through it, and I will probably buy it when it comes out fully. I like the line "personally I see having issues with authority a trait that all patriotic Americans should share"
>
> I am very tempted to add Monster Hunter International to my Top Ten
> list. Great series, not a bad book in the bunch.
>

I mostly agree. I've enjoyed all of them, except for the one co-written
with Sarah Hoyt (#7 I think? Monster Hunters International: Guardian.)
I strongly recommend flat-out skipping that one.[1]

But the rest are very enjoyable,
Tony
[1] Just a minute...Yeah, here's what I said in this group back in early May 2021:
Monster Hunters International: Guardian - Correia & Hoyt [MHI #7 - the most recent one in the main series] I’m not sure why I’ve enjoyed this series (but I have!). I don’t even remember why I read the first one (but I did!). Anyhow, the first 6 are fun and slight and are good for easy reading that requires very little thinking - they're basically about a clandestine/non-public organization devoted to killing monsters, with some longer term arcs weaved in; the general public does not know monsters exist; enjoyable characters, enjoyable dialogue, enjoyable moments, etc. And every single one of those things was missing here in #7; lazy plotting (e.g. maybe 90-95% of the book is about a new mom trying to rescue her kidnapped kid), predictable and cliched; most of the main characters were off-screen in this one, and the one main character (the protagonist here) was nothing like herself, etc etc etc. If this was the first MHI book I ever read, it would be the last. I’ll certainly investigate #8 pretty deeply before I decide to read it or not.[2]

[2] I did read #8, and it was a good return to form, very much like #1-#6.

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by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 03:09 UTC

On 9/26/2023 5:02 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:25:33 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 9/26/2023 1:59 PM, Andrew McDowell wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 1:56:26 PM UTC+1, WolfFan wrote:
>>>> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
>>>> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1...@dont-email.me>):
>>>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>>> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>>>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>>>>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>>>> major plot hole due to physics
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>>>>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>>>>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>>>> too many guns
>>>>>
>>>>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>>>> he really loves things that go boom
>>>>>
>>>>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>>>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>>>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>>>>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>>>>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>>>>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>>>>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>>>>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>>>>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>>>>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>>>>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>>>>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>>>>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>>>>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>>>>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>>>>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>> IF you really love things that go boom, I recommend the "Monster Hunter International" series, starting with the book of that name. Full of loving descriptions of guns, which I suspect are also pretty accurate, though I am no expert. Otherwise reasonably entertaining, but nothing special. The spin off Monster Hunter Memoirs: Grunge series is very amusing, and I recommend it. I've just had a look at the free sample on Baen of the new Monster Hunter Memoirs: Fever. It is not by the same collaboration as Grunge and it doesn't have the same feel, but the sample grew on me as I read through it, and I will probably buy it when it comes out fully. I like the line "personally I see having issues with authority a trait that all patriotic Americans should share"
>>
>> I am very tempted to add Monster Hunter International to my Top Ten
>> list. Great series, not a bad book in the bunch.
>>
>
> I mostly agree. I've enjoyed all of them, except for the one co-written
> with Sarah Hoyt (#7 I think? Monster Hunters International: Guardian.)
> I strongly recommend flat-out skipping that one.[1]
>
> But the rest are very enjoyable,
> Tony
> [1] Just a minute...Yeah, here's what I said in this group back in early May 2021:
> Monster Hunters International: Guardian - Correia & Hoyt [MHI #7 - the most recent one in the main series] I’m not sure why I’ve enjoyed this series (but I have!). I don’t even remember why I read the first one (but I did!). Anyhow, the first 6 are fun and slight and are good for easy reading that requires very little thinking - they're basically about a clandestine/non-public organization devoted to killing monsters, with some longer term arcs weaved in; the general public does not know monsters exist; enjoyable characters, enjoyable dialogue, enjoyable moments, etc. And every single one of those things was missing here in #7; lazy plotting (e.g. maybe 90-95% of the book is about a new mom trying to rescue her kidnapped kid), predictable and cliched; most of the main characters were off-screen in this one, and the one main character (the protagonist here) was nothing like herself, etc etc etc. If this was the first MHI book I ever read, it would be the last. I’ll certainly investigate #8 pretty deeply before I decide to read it or not.[2]
>
> [2] I did read #8, and it was a good return to form, very much like #1-#6.
I enjoyed #7 and gave it 4 stars. Here is my review:
"Book number seven of an eight book dark fantasy series. There are many
other prequels and sequels in the Monster Hunter Universe. I read the
well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2020. I will
probably purchase and read just about any future books in the series.
If you like dark fantasy then I would advise checking out this series.
The first book is a riot.
Julie Shackleford is a fifth generation monster hunter. Her husband is
Owen Pitt who is on a international mission to close an
inter-dimensional rift on a Russian island, along with the rest of the
active monster hunters of MHI. Julie stayed home to deliver and take of
their baby who is doing well after being delivered by one of the local
Orc midwives. And she takes care of her retired grandfather and manages
the MHI business. But then a monster shows up by the name of Brother
Death and kidnaps her baby, wanting to trade her baby for a powered
artifact that Julie is guarding for the Old Ones. And then Julie's
mother, a master vampire, shows up and wants to trade Brother Death for
her grandson so she can raise him properly."
Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 03:10 UTC

On 9/25/2023 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>
> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>
> Lynn

I am adding 28. "Monster Hunter International" by Larry Carreia

Lynn

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by: a425couple - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:01 UTC

On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>
> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein

You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.

I think a list like this should include:
"Starship Troopers" by Robert Heinlein.
"Rendezvous with Rama" by Arthur C. Clarke
"The Fountains of Paradise" by Arthur C. Clarke
"The Songs of Distant Earth" by Arthur C. Clarke
"2001 a Space Odyssey" (and 2010 and 2061) by Arthur C. Clarke
"Childhoods End" by Arthur C. Clarke
Robert Silverberg deserves inclusion from his number of books,
longevity, and variety of ideas, I'll suggest "Nightwings",
"Hawksbill Station" and "Tower of Glass".
"Seed of Light" by Edmund Cooper

> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>
> Lynn

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by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:11 UTC

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a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>
>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>
>You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>

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by: Tony Nance - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 21:01 UTC

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 11:09:53 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 9/26/2023 5:02 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:25:33 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >> On 9/26/2023 1:59 PM, Andrew McDowell wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 1:56:26 PM UTC+1, WolfFan wrote:
> >>>> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
> >>>> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1...@dont-email.me>):
> >>>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
> >>>> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
> >>>>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
> >>>>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
> >>>>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
> >>>>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
> >>>>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
> >>>> major plot hole due to physics
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
> >>>>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
> >>>>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
> >>>> too many guns
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
> >>>> he really loves things that go boom
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> >>>>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
> >>>>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
> >>>>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
> >>>>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
> >>>>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
> >>>>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
> >>>>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
> >>>>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
> >>>>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
> >>>>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
> >>>>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
> >>>>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
> >>>>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
> >>>>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
> >>>>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lynn
> >>> IF you really love things that go boom, I recommend the "Monster Hunter International" series, starting with the book of that name. Full of loving descriptions of guns, which I suspect are also pretty accurate, though I am no expert. Otherwise reasonably entertaining, but nothing special. The spin off Monster Hunter Memoirs: Grunge series is very amusing, and I recommend it. I've just had a look at the free sample on Baen of the new Monster Hunter Memoirs: Fever. It is not by the same collaboration as Grunge and it doesn't have the same feel, but the sample grew on me as I read through it, and I will probably buy it when it comes out fully. I like the line "personally I see having issues with authority a trait that all patriotic Americans should share"
> >>
> >> I am very tempted to add Monster Hunter International to my Top Ten
> >> list. Great series, not a bad book in the bunch.
> >>
> >
> > I mostly agree. I've enjoyed all of them, except for the one co-written
> > with Sarah Hoyt (#7 I think? Monster Hunters International: Guardian.)
> > I strongly recommend flat-out skipping that one.[1]
> >
> > But the rest are very enjoyable,
> > Tony
> > [1] Just a minute...Yeah, here's what I said in this group back in early May 2021:
> > Monster Hunters International: Guardian - Correia & Hoyt [MHI #7 - the most recent one in the main series] I’m not sure why I’ve enjoyed this series (but I have!). I don’t even remember why I read the first one (but I did!). Anyhow, the first 6 are fun and slight and are good for easy reading that requires very little thinking - they're basically about a clandestine/non-public organization devoted to killing monsters, with some longer term arcs weaved in; the general public does not know monsters exist; enjoyable characters, enjoyable dialogue, enjoyable moments, etc. And every single one of those things was missing here in #7; lazy plotting (e.g. maybe 90-95% of the book is about a new mom trying to rescue her kidnapped kid), predictable and cliched; most of the main characters were off-screen in this one, and the one main character (the protagonist here) was nothing like herself, etc etc etc. If this was the first MHI book I ever read, it would be the last. I’ll certainly investigate #8 pretty deeply before I decide to read it or not.[2]
> >
> > [2] I did read #8, and it was a good return to form, very much like #1-#6.
>
> I enjoyed #7 and gave it 4 stars. Here is my review:
>
> "Book number seven of an eight book dark fantasy series. There are many
> other prequels and sequels in the Monster Hunter Universe. I read the
> well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2020. I will
> probably purchase and read just about any future books in the series.
>
> If you like dark fantasy then I would advise checking out this series.
> The first book is a riot.
>
> Julie Shackleford is a fifth generation monster hunter. Her husband is
> Owen Pitt who is on a international mission to close an
> inter-dimensional rift on a Russian island, along with the rest of the
> active monster hunters of MHI. Julie stayed home to deliver and take of
> their baby who is doing well after being delivered by one of the local
> Orc midwives. And she takes care of her retired grandfather and manages
> the MHI business. But then a monster shows up by the name of Brother
> Death and kidnaps her baby, wanting to trade her baby for a powered
> artifact that Julie is guarding for the Old Ones. And then Julie's
> mother, a master vampire, shows up and wants to trade Brother Death for
> her grandson so she can raise him properly."
>

Nice description!

It's really neat that you enjoyed it. I surely wish I had. Gratefully, #8 was
a return to everything I liked about #1-#6.

Tony

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by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:34 UTC

On 9/27/2023 1:11 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <%5_QM.213899$GHI6.106352@fx17.iad>,
> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>
>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>
>> You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>>
>
> --Increasingly inaccurately named-- is an SF tradition..

My increasingly inaccurately named or the group as a whole ?

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:37 UTC

On 9/27/2023 1:01 PM, a425couple wrote:
> On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>
>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>
> You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>
> I think a list like this should include:
> "Starship Troopers" by Robert Heinlein.
> "Rendezvous with Rama" by Arthur C. Clarke
> "The Fountains of Paradise" by Arthur C. Clarke
> "The Songs of Distant Earth" by Arthur C. Clarke
> "2001 a Space Odyssey" (and 2010 and 2061) by Arthur C. Clarke
> "Childhoods End" by Arthur C. Clarke
> Robert Silverberg deserves inclusion from his number of books,
> longevity, and variety of ideas, I'll suggest "Nightwings",
> "Hawksbill Station" and "Tower of Glass".
> "Seed of Light" by Edmund Cooper
>
>
>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>
>> Lynn

Yup, those are all five star books. Just not six stars for me. Six
stars means that I have read it three times or more. And of course the
xkcd rating rule applies.
https://xkcd.com/1098/

Lynn

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by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:41 UTC

In article <uf2onh$3gkpp$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 9/27/2023 1:11 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article <%5_QM.213899$GHI6.106352@fx17.iad>,
>> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>>
>>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>>
>>> You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>>>
>>
>> --Increasingly inaccurately named-- is an SF tradition..
>
>My increasingly inaccurately named or the group as a whole ?
>
>Lynn
>
>

Items that overflow their numerology. Such as trilogies.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

[Hal Heydt]
it's approxiamately the top e*10 list at this point.

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by: Hamish Laws - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 04:39 UTC

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 10:56:26 PM UTC+10, WolfFan wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1...@dont-email.me>):
> > Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
> >
> > 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...

It's not aiming for hard science fiction...

> > 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
> major plot hole due to physics

When the basic idea of the book is "almost all technnology stops working" don't expect it to fit with real world science.
> >
> > 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
> too many guns

That's a matter of personal taste, I'm not a big guns fan but Ringo does do a good job of starting series that involve a lot of violence and making them reasonable.
Completing the series is another matter, he's dropped a fair few I was interested in and his "of course the SS were elite soldiers and will save Europe" in Wath on the Rhine, a book he cowrote with Kratman, and "only christianity and religious people are worthwhile" in The Tuloriad and Queen of Wands (which as I recall from 1 read back when it was has a main character who's incredibly competent but because she's female she has to obey her husband in all things and he's a clueless arsehole) makes me less likely to read future releases

Also dubious about anybody who chooses to write about 2 main characters who are attracted to the idea of raping people but hold themselves back...
> >
> > 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
> he really loves things that go boom

at a much higher level of booming

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by: Jack Bohn - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 13:28 UTC

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:37:18 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:

[re: suggested list of books]

> Yup, those are all five star books. Just not six stars for me. Six
> stars means that I have read it three times or more. And of course the
> xkcd rating rule applies.
> https://xkcd.com/1098/

Oh, until you mentioned a method, I hadn't noticed the modifier was SIX stars. Now it's too late to make a joke about "Six stars in the increasingly inaccurately named five star ratings!"

Apropos the lower ranges. Since this summer, I've been browsing through a number of movies where the available cast list and summary still left me wondering whether I had seen it before. So I've started a list with a sentence or two to remind me what _I_ saw in it, and a rating: 0-no reason to watch it again. 1-something in it worth rewatching. 2-more than one thing to rewatch it for. I'm guessing a 3, 4, or 5 would make it memorable enough that I don't have to put it on the list.

--
-Jack

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by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 22:37 UTC

On 9/27/2023 10:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <uf2onh$3gkpp$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/27/2023 1:11 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <%5_QM.213899$GHI6.106352@fx17.iad>,
>>> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/25/23 21:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>>>
>>>> You have 27, or 28 in your "top ten" list. OK.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --Increasingly inaccurately named-- is an SF tradition..
>>
>> My increasingly inaccurately named or the group as a whole ?
>
> [Hal Heydt]
> it's approxiamately the top e*10 list at this point.

Heh !

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 01:08 UTC

Didn't Arthur C. Clarke say something about technology ? Oh yeah, "In
1962, in his book “Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of
the Possible”, science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated his
famous Three Laws, of which the third law is the best-known and most
widely cited: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
from magic”."

Lynn

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by: Hamish Laws - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 01:57 UTC

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 11:08:28 AM UTC+10, Lynn McGuire wrote:

> Didn't Arthur C. Clarke say something about technology ? Oh yeah, "In
> 1962, in his book “Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of
> the Possible”, science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated his
> famous Three Laws, of which the third law is the best-known and most
> widely cited: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
> from magic”."
>
with the corollary "any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced"

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by: Joy Beeson - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 01:56 UTC

On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 20:08:18 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

> Didn't Arthur C. Clarke say something about technology ? Oh yeah, "In
> 1962, in his book Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of
> the Possible, science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated his
> famous Three Laws, of which the third law is the best-known and most
> widely cited: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
> from magic."

Lately I've been citing a corollary: Sufficiently advanced
incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at centurylink dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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by: Ahasuerus - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 03:24 UTC

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:56:13 PM UTC-4, Joy Beeson wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 20:08:18 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Didn't Arthur C. Clarke say something about technology ? Oh yeah, "In
> > 1962, in his book “Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of
> > the Possible”, science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated his
> > famous Three Laws, of which the third law is the best-known and most
> > widely cited: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
> > from magic”."
> Lately I've been citing a corollary: Sufficiently advanced
> incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

It sounds like Hanlon's Razor -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

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by: Lynn McGuire - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:11 UTC

On 9/26/2023 10:10 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 9/25/2023 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>
>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>
>> Lynn
>
> I am adding 28. "Monster Hunter International" by Larry Carreia
>
> Lynn

Somebody somewhere told me this is a list of young men's adventure
stories. They were not wrong.

Lynn

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by: Lynn McGuire - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:24 UTC

You can never have too many guns. Just ask General Custer who left his
Gatling guns behind for his last march.

Lynn

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Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>On 9/26/2023 7:56 AM, WolfFan wrote:
>> On Sep 26, 2023, Lynn McGuire wrote
>> (in article <uetmtk$2bjvr$1@dont-email.me>):
>>
>>> Lynn’s six star list (or top ten list) in September 2023:
>>>
>>> 1. “Mutineer’s Moon” by David Weber
>>
>> Giant plot holes with respect to biology, physics, logic...
>>>
>>> 2. “Citizen Of The Galaxy” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 3. “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 4. “The Star Beast” by Robert Heinlein
>>> 5. “Shards Of Honor” by Lois McMaster Bujold
>>> 6. “Jumper” by Steven Gould
>>> 7. “Dies The Fire” by S. M. Stirling
>>
>> major plot hole due to physics
>>>
>>> 8. “Emergence” by David Palmer
>>> 9. “The Tar-Aiym Krang” by Alan Dean Foster
>>> 10. “Under A Graveyard Sky” by John Ringo
>>
>> too many guns
>>>
>>> 11. “Live Free Or Die” by John Ringo
>>
>> he really loves things that go boom
>>>
>>> 12. “Footfall” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>> 13. “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
>>> 14. “The Zero Stone” by Andre Norton
>>> 15. “Going Home” by A. American
>>> 16. “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card
>>> 17. “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline
>>> 18. “The Martian” by Andy Weir
>>> 19. “The Postman” by David Brin
>>> 20. “We Are Legion” by Dennis E. Taylor
>>> 21. “Bitten” by Kelley Armstrong
>>> 22. “Moon Called” by Patrica Briggs
>>> 23. “Red Thunder” by John Varley
>>> 24. "Lightning" by Dean Koontz
>>> 25. "The Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells
>>> 26. "Friday" by Robert Heinlein
>>> 27. "Agent Of Change" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
>>>
>>> Lynn
>
>You can never have too many guns.

Most americans (68%) don't have guns. Don't need guns. And don't want guns.

Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.

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