On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 12:58:00 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-05-04 15:16, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:04:31 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2023-05-02 06:38, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 4:15:37 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:54:39 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 5:00:32 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:07:42 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2023-04-26 16:01, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:16:18 PM UTC-5, Alan
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 2023-04-26 05:58, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 1:31:33 PM UTC-4, Alan
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> [Tom, etc]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> … As for my trip description it's no more
> >>>>>>>>>>>> self-serving than your bragging race narratives.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait to read the next one, if there is one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well as I currently have a hernia awaiting surgery,
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid you'll have to wait until June.
> >>>>>>>>>> … Hernia? I had one repaired a few years back in 2017.
> >>>>>>>>>> It was almost painless and no activity restrictions. It
> >>>>>>>>>> took all of a week from diagnosis to surgery. I was on
> >>>>>>>>>> the way to hospital when the famous CRV incident
> >>>>>>>>>> occurred. But you have health care waiting lines in
> >>>>>>>>>> Canada. :) Too bad. If you lived here you would already
> >>>>>>>>>> have that fixed. :)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If I had your health insurance... ...or was rich.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I happened to see an old associate last night when we were
> >>>>>>>> out for dinner. First time since pre-CoVid. We chatted
> >>>>>>>> briefly; I offered my best wishes for their future back
> >>>>>>>> surgery (a mutual friend had mentioned this to me
> >>>>>>>> recently).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I didn’t go into with him on the second part that I’d been
> >>>>>>>> told, which was that he has two years still to go before
> >>>>>>>> his operation, because he can’t afford US private health
> >>>>>>>> insurance, so he has to wait until age 65 and Medicare.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yup.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I may have waited a couple of more months than I would have
> >>>>>>> liked to get my hernia surgery...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (It really didn't become a definite thing until
> >>>>>>> February/March this year) ...but on the flip side, EVERY
> >>>>>>> Canadian who needs the surgery can get it... ...without going
> >>>>>>> bankrupt.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Unfortunately, middle/upper class Americans who worked for
> >>>>>> decades with employer provided healthcare & no major health
> >>>>>> concerns just do not realize how profoundly bad the American
> >>>>>> healthcare system sucks for people who don’t have that health
> >>>>>> insurance “mafia membership” ID card to control their out of
> >>>>>> pocket costs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course, the joke’s on them when they get onto Medicare after
> >>>>>> age 65 and a few years go past and they need dental work:
> >>>>>> Medicare does not cover it. Receding gums meriting a tissue
> >>>>>> graft rebuild? Figure ~$4K .. per side.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Only those with victim disorder regard health care as broken.
> >>>> Or people who can look beyond the tip of their nose: healthcare
> >>>> costs a third less in Switzerland despite them having a higher cost
> >>>> of living, and they have superior outcomes. Oh, and it’s also a
> >>>> public/private hybrid, so American advocates don’t have that
> >>>> deflection attempt either.
> >>>>> Receding gums are a personal issue?
> >>>> Just because I happen to know market prices? You may not be aware
> >>>> that I’ve been taking care of my parents finances for the past
> >>>> decade.
> >>>>
> >>>> Plus it’s just one example: replacing a cap isn’t cheap without
> >>>> insurance either. IIRC, Mom’s last one as $2K,
> >>>>> In any event, you can buy dental insurance in the U.S.
> >>>> Yup, at additional expense. If I recall correctly, our policy is a
> >>>> supplement to the basic health insurance, so it’s only something
> >>>> like $102/month. Some Medicare Advantage plans available in lieu of
> >>>> classic Medicare offer
> >>>>> dental benefits, but mostly with additional premiums.
> >>>> Which isn’t basic Medicare which was the point.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For BC: If you receive income or disability assistance, you may
> >>>>> be able to have basic dental costs covered. It depends on whether
> >>>>> or not you are receiving public assistance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Everyone who receives assistance can access emergency dental
> >>>>> services to relieve pain."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/family-social-supports/income-assistance/on-assistance/supplements/dental
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At the national level I found this recent article:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "With the new budget having some dental care policies, it appears
> >>>>> the government of Canada is beginning to see teeth as part of the
> >>>>> human body.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> According to the 2022 budget outline, a third of Canadians do not
> >>>>> have dental insurance, and in 2018, more than one in five
> >>>>> Canadians reported avoiding dental care because of the cost.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But that might finally start changing. The budget has proposed
> >>>>> $5.3 billion to Health Canada, so dental care can be provided to
> >>>>> the Canadians who need it most.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The amount will be spread out over five years, and it could begin
> >>>>> late this year or in early 2023. There’s already $1.7 billion in
> >>>>> funding in the works.
> >>>> Sounds like they recognized the problem & are working to fix it.
> >>>> When is the US going to follow suit?
> >>>>
> >>>> -hh
> >>>
> >>> When is the U.S. going to recognize that these programs cost money
> >>> and collect added taxes to pay for them? Part D was never funded.
> >>> Thank George W for that attempt to buy the senior vote.
> >> When are you going to agree that the uptick in the deficit has been
> >> caused by the huge tax break that Trump and the Rethuglicans gave to the
> >> uber-rich?
> >
> > Really????? Uptick? $3 trillion is an "uptick"?
> >
> > Federal tax collections, spending and deficit, 2016-2021.
> >
> > Year Taxes Spending Deficit
> > 2016 $2,457.785 $3,077.942 -$620.157
> > 2017 $2,465.566 $3,180.429 -$714.863
> > 2018 $2,475.160 $3,260.473 -$785.313
> > 2019 $2,549.061 $3,540.339 -$991.278
> > 2020 $2,455.736 $5,598.021 -$3,142.285
> > 2021 $3,094.789 $5,818.602 -$2,723.813
> >
> > I'm no genius, but it looks to me like spending was the real cause.
> >
> > The Biden budget for next year is $6.9 trillion and a deficit approaching $2 trillion.
> Sorry... ...no source = no need to refute.
>
> And you get that there was a HUGE pandemic that began at the beginning
> of 2020...
>
> ...right, Little Shit?

Source: http://www.polidiotic.com/by-the-numbers/us-federal-deficit-by-year/

Got better numbers?

I get the pandemic, which is why tax revenues decreased, not the Trump era tax cuts. I was arguing with the HH assertion that it was tax cuts that caused the deficit increases, CLEARLY not the case, it was spending. Further, post Trump tax cuts, tax receipts were record-high in 2021.