micky wrote:

> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 05:28:20 -0500, VanguardLH
> <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>>micky wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Samsung with accidental touch protection. That's good, but
>>> when it turns on, it says Swipe to continue, and I swipe up and down,
>>> front and back, in and out and it's still there. I can't do other
>>> things.
>>>
>>> How do I get out of it?
>>
>>My guess on the unidentified smartphone (typical of your posts) is that
>
> I said it was a Samsung. I'm sure all the Samsungs use the same method,
> (although new releases of the software might change the system, for all
> of them.)

Oh, Samsung ... who has only produced a single model ... uh huh. And
across every version of Android they've had and have on that one phone.
Tell me, when you go to Samsung's web site, do they list only one model
of phone? If nothing changed across major versions of Android, why are
there versions of Android?

I've had Samsung phones before (with older Android versions), and there
was no swipe protection option. I wasn't going to waste time to see if
all currently supported Samsung phone has the option under all versions
of Android which they come bundled.

>> you chose a particular *pattern* to swipe to unlock, not just a
>> general swipe in any direction. You need to replicate the pattern
>> when swiping your finger across the screen to unlock the phone.
>
> It shows arrows to the left and right. I didn't go into this becaue
> I don't expect people without some experience with Samsungs to be
> likely to answer the question. Or better put, they already know
> this.

Those arrows, from what I've seen described online, are to the side of a
padlock icon. So, are you placing your finger on the icon, and then
dragging it to swipe across the screen? Or, are you swiping elsewhere
on the screen?

Besides the swipe protection setting, which type of unlock action did
you pick to unlock the phone? None, swipe (anywhere), pattern, PIN, or
something else?

>> My other guess is you don't just swipe anywhere on the screen. You
>> have to start the swipe from a specific location or using a specific
>> icon to
>
> Yes, there is a circle in the center of the display, and I start there.
> The multi-headed arrows point to the left and right, and I swipe to the
> left and right, and nothing happens.

Ah, sounds like you do what I read to do.

>> move it (swipe). When the phone is locked, does something appear on
>> the screen that wasn't there before you enabled swipe protection?
>
> Terminology confuses me. I guess I have a lock screen, but I have no
> password or fingerprint or other requirement.

You say you have screen lock enabled, but then say no method is chosen
for unlock. Under the Android settings, like Lock Screen & Security
(different versions of Android, especially with different customizations
by different phone makers will have different navpaths into Settings),
for the Lock Screen setting, what is configured there? None, swipe,
knock code, pattern, pin, password? If fingerprints is disabled, that
option should be grayed out (deselected).

> I'm not sure what you mean by swipe protection. The protection in the
> subject line is for touch protection when the phone is in the dark,
> like one's pocket.

Yep, but that's to disable touch sensing when the phone is in the dark,
not when you take the phone out of your pocket to use it in the light.
If you take the phone out of the dark, and then try to use it in the
dark (just using the phone's screen for illumination to see it), that's
not using the screen in the light. You're in a car. Do you turn a
dome/overhead light on at night when in the car, or tested swipe
protection during the day when there's plenty of sunlight entering the
car through the windows?

> I always** turn the screen dark before I put it in my pocket** so maybe
> I don't need this accidental protectino. **Though it frequently turns
> back on again. :-( A problem for another thread. (I've googled and none
> of hte suggestions apply to me.)

An option is to double-tap the screen to lock it. Another option is to
tap the fingerprint reader to lock the screen. You then need to use
whatever method was specified to exit locked screen mode. Just "turning
the screen dark" (reducing brightness) does not lock the screen hence
the appearance of the swipe protection option. Guess Google decided too
many users were butt-dialing from their phones in their pockets. I
don't use pockets for phones, but use a belt holster which gives added
protection, especially from scratching the screen's glass (pocket lint
has silica which is harder than glass). A pocket is the worst place to
stow a phone for carry. Not only is lint harmful to glass, but you're
bending all your pants pockets to stress the phone, and shirt pockets
don't grip to ensure the phone doesn't drop out. Cargo pants with side
pockets would be better, but you're still banging the phone into
anything your thigh hits with just a thin layer of fabric between phone
and impact source. If I carried my phone that way, its screen would be
turned inward (toward the thigh), not outward.

> **Wait.... I used to until 3 days ago. Lately, when I'm taking pictures
> I sometimes leave everything on when I put it in my pocket. It keeps
> switching to Portrait (which doesn't allow zooming) but I think I must
> do that when it's out of my pocket. The Xiaomi phone I have doesn't
> require going through the lock (or whatever screen) when bringing the
> screen back up.
>
> I think this accidental touch protection was enabled by default.
>
>>https://www.samsung.com/levant/support/mobile-devices/how-to-block-accidental-touches-on-your-galaxy-smartphone/
>
> Thanks. This is on the right topic, but it tells how to turn on the
> feature, not how to turn it off each time, that is, how to get out of
> protection, once it has activated.
>
> I'm going to try turning it off altogehter and see if I miss the
> protection.

Besides the unlock options on how to unlock the phone once locked, you
might want to visit the screen timeout options. If you use the phone
when out of your pocket, there won't be a timeout, so maybe a short
timeout would be appropriate for you. That would lock the phone after a
short timeout, and accidental screen presses, like swipes, wouldn't be a
problem. Many users choose the longest timetout available, because they
want to put down the phone to do something else, but have the phone
unlocked when they return to the phone (which is peculiar why they even
enable the screen lock option). Since, unlike you, I added fingerprints
to the security options, unlocking the phone is very easy: just lay one
of the fingers on the fingerprint sensor. I have the index and middle
fingers of both hands recorded, so I can use either hand, and a choice
of a couple fingers on each in case there's a bandaid on one of the
fingers on the hand I want to use.

Before I put away or put down my phone, I tap the Power button to
instantly lock it. Way too much data accessible via my phone to have
someone sneak away or use my phone, so it is locked whenever not in use.
I also have the double-tap option enabled to instantly lock the phone.
Since I use a holster to stow the phone when mobile, I use the Power tap
to lock, and have only used the double-tap lock when the phone sits in a
cradle at work or home. My phone locks when it goes dark (stowed in the
holster) because of the short idle timeout: the phone's screen goes dark
when stowed, just like it does when placed near your ear, as part of the
battery saving features, and the screen saver engages in 1 minute which
locks the phone.

Have you ever noticed your phone making a call or loading an app when it
was stowed in your pocket? Even an accidental swipe probably won't do
much other than relight the display. With the screen saver set to 1
minute and the same idle expiration for screen lock, the window of
opportunity is small for an accidental swipe. I have to wonder if
anyone actually requested the feature, or if the developers had some
spare time and spent it on this new feature rather than address old
issues or bugs which don't (shouldn't) generate a new major version of
the software, and don't get the glitz effect on users.

Sounds like you can still enable the phone after removing from your
pocket when using the swipe protection feature. With the icon w/arrows
presented on the screen, how are you getting past it to use the phone?
Else, how are you going to get into Settings to disable the option?

"In a dark place" doesn't really say how dark. Any chance you can put
the phone in an opaque bag, but open just enough to peek inside with one
eye while in a dark room, or at night in the car with no lights on, to
see if the screen went completely black, or if the icon w/arrows is
displayed on an otherwise blank screen? That is, can you sneak a peek
to check if the refrigerator light goes off when the door is almost
closed? The old Samsungs that I had did not have this security option,
so I don't have your unidentified model to peak at the screen when "in a
dark place".

The reason I ask is to check if the light sensor is working to have the
screen blank out when in the dark. A different sensor for proximity
blanks the screen when placed near your ear. If the light sensor isn't
working, the phone won't blank out when in the dark.