On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:32:39 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:27:51 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:19:24 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:37:24 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 9/19/2022 12:20 PM, jetjock wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:17:54 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 18:44:55 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/18/2022 5:10 PM, jetjock wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 16:03:40 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
>>>>>>>> <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jetjock wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I got sick of Win 8.1 on my old Dell Inspiron 15 and put Win 7
>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate back on it. After deleting all the GPT partitions down to
>>>>>>>>>> one, Windows installed ok. Unfortunately, it is just that; Windows 7!
>>>>>>>>>> There is no Ethernet Controller, Network Controller, PCI Simple
>>>>>>>>>> Communications Controller, SM Bus Controller, Universal Serial Bus
>>>>>>>>>> Controller or USB2.0 Controller.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tried installing WSUS Offline updates, but it said it couldn't
>>>>>>>>>> download things. So much for "offline"! I have tried installing
>>>>>>>>>> drivers for the various ones missing by pointing the device manager
>>>>>>>>>> driver updater at every Intel, x64 and other driver package I have,
>>>>>>>>>> but it keeps telling me that it can't find a driver for the item. A
>>>>>>>>>> couple times it did say that the driver it found might not work
>>>>>>>>>> correctly but I could install it anyway. I choose not to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded the Intel Trusted Execution Engine Interface Driver to
>>>>>>>>>> my desktop from the Dell Website. Tried to install it on the laptop
>>>>>>>>>> and was told that "The procedure entry pointADDDLLDirectory could not
>>>>>>>>>> be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm out of ideas. Paul, (or anyone) can you help me out?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you try the genuine drivers from Dell?
>>>>>>>>> https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/product/inspiron-15-3555-laptop/drivers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not that page, per se, but every driver I got from them for a 3510 (I
>>>>>>>> think that's what mine is) is newer than what's on that page. They all
>>>>>>>> give that same error of not finding the entry point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would work on getting a network driver to the machine, so that
>>>>>>> the rest of the Genuine Drivers can be downloaded directly on the
>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Realtek Ethernet Controller Driver Version 7.94.723.2015, A00
>>>>>> I was finally able to get the correct network driver for my machine
>>>>>>from the Dell Website and am now running WSUS Offline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might want to bring over a Firefox installer (or whatever
>>>>>>> your favorite non-MSFT browser is), so the Dell website will not
>>>>>>> fight you while you work. IE11 or other versions of IE, would
>>>>>>> make a poor "bootstrap" browser right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will install FF as soon as WSUS is finished
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's no chipset driver mentioned on the Dell site.
>>>>>>> A PDF for your machine says it's not an Intel, and uses AMD instead.
>>>>>>> It's like shopping at KMart or the Dollar store, we have to know
>>>>>>> which store we're headed to :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My computer is a Dell 5558 and it does have an Intel Core I7
>>>>>> processor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> System information
>>>>>>> Computer model Inspiron 15-3555
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Processor
>>>>>>> AMD E1-6010 APU with Radeon R2 Graphics
>>>>>>> AMD E2-6110 APU with Radeon R2 Graphics
>>>>>>> AMD A6-6310 APU with Radeon R4 Graphics
>>>>>>> AMD A8-7410 APU with Radeon R5 Graphics
>>>>>>> Chipset Integrated in processor [hah!]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can Google for "A8-7410 chipset driver". Insert actual CPU name.
>>>>>>> I just picked one and ran with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-6-1-win7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 22.6.1 Driver for Windows 7 64-bit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/radeon-software-adrenalin-2020-22.6.1-win7-64bit-june23-2022.exe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of that is the graphics driver (just select the graphics driver part,
>>>>>>> the whole gamer package is overkill for most usages and also gathers metrics
>>>>>>> about your usage, and the metrics waste disk space). There should be tick
>>>>>>> boxes, and you can switch off the sludge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But there is a chipset driver section. That's useful for tidying the
>>>>>>> Device Manager a bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what you're doing, will be hard work. I can't take
>>>>>>> the hardness out of the work, unfortunately. You're in for
>>>>>>> a driver slog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope you installed from Win7 SP1 media, as that's a start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version installed is Win 7 Ultimate x64 with SP 1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the WSUSOffline is still recommended. A network driver, and
>>>>>>> the in-box hard drive storage driver, may be enough to do your
>>>>>>> 170 updates with your WSUSOffline USB stick. WSUSOffline will
>>>>>>> do its best in terms of Windows Update configuration. It does not
>>>>>>> try to install MSFT crapware if it can get by without it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may be looking for a current wsusscn2.cab file. I don't know
>>>>>>> if the signing on that is the best. Which is why WsusOffline has to
>>>>>>> install the SHA2 patches first, so the "calculating updates" phase
>>>>>>> will actually work. It does not just use a dumb "install everything"
>>>>>>> method, it actually computes what is needed, using facilities on
>>>>>>> the machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That .cab file, tools do not generally like to use it, if it is
>>>>>>> more than 24 hours old.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm heading out the door, or I'd do more research...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran WSUS v1.9 but got a "signature verification failure:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:44:56.30 - Info: Starting WSUS Offline Update
>>>>>> download v. 11.9 for w61-x64 glb
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:44:56.33 - Info: Option /includedotnet detected
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:44:56.39 - Info: Option /seconly detected
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:44:56.45 - Info: Option /verify detected
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:44:56.50 - Info: Option /exitonerror detected
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:44:56.81 - Info: Set time zone to LOC7:00
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:44:57.30 - Info: Preserved custom language and
>>>>>> architecture additions and removals
>>>>>> WARNING: cannot verify download.wsusoffline.net's certificate, issued
>>>>>> by 'CN=R3,O=Let\'s Encrypt,C=US':
>>>>>> Unable to locally verify the issuer's authority.
>>>>>> 2022-09-19 10:44:58
>>>>>> URL:https://download.wsusoffline.net/StaticDownloadFiles-modified.txt
>>>>>> [71/71] -> "../static/StaticDownloadFiles-modified.txt" [1]
>>>>>> WARNING: cannot verify download.wsusoffline.net's certificate, issued
>>>>>> by 'CN=R3,O=Let\'s Encrypt,C=US':
>>>>>> Unable to locally verify the issuer's authority.
>>>>>> 2022-09-19 10:44:59
>>>>>> URL:https://download.wsusoffline.net/ExcludeDownloadFiles-modified.txt
>>>>>> [0/0] -> "../exclude/ExcludeDownloadFiles-modified.txt" [1]
>>>>>> WARNING: cannot verify download.wsusoffline.net's certificate, issued
>>>>>> by 'CN=R3,O=Let\'s Encrypt,C=US':
>>>>>> Unable to locally verify the issuer's authority.
>>>>>> 2022-09-19 10:45:00
>>>>>> URL:https://download.wsusoffline.net/StaticUpdateFiles-modified.txt
>>>>>> [0/0] -> "../client/static/StaticUpdateFiles-modified.txt" [1]
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:45:00.40 - Info: Updated static and exclude
>>>>>> definitions for download and update
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:45:00.45 - Info: Restored custom language and
>>>>>> architecture additions and removals
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:45:02.26 - Info: Downloaded/validated mkisofs tool
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:45:03.96 - Info: Downloaded Sysinternals' tools
>>>>>> Autologon, Sigcheck and Streams
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:53:35.23 - Info: Downloaded/validated most recent
>>>>>> Windows Update catalog file
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:54:37.79 - Warning: Deleted unsigned file
>>>>>> 'E:\wsusoffline\client\wsus\wsusscn2.cab'
>>>>>> Mon 09/19/2022 10:54:37.87 - Error: Catalog file
>>>>>> ..\client\wsus\wsusscn2.cab signature verification failure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>
>>>>> Version should have read 11.9--not 1.9
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I suspect we may be talking about more than one computer here.
>>>>
>>>> Info: Starting WSUS Offline Update download
>>>>
>>>>I also think you did not see my other post.
>>>>
>>>>http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Ctg92lc%24110ig%241%40dont-email.me%3E
>>>>
>>>> UpdateGenerator.exe # Needs network, downloads and collects updates, to be used later by you
>>>> # You do this work on your Technician Machine, and
>>>> # before visiting the "desperate" machine with your "catch".
>>>>
>>>> client\UpdateInstaller.exe # Does not need network. Uses the wsusscn2.cab file collected during
>>>> # the other step. When IE11 installs, the IE11 window will open and it
>>>> # will attempt to contact msn.com for the home page (or whatever). This
>>>> # network activity is non-blocking, can be ignored, and IE11 dismissed.
>>>> # UpdateInstaller.exe patches up the "desperate" machine which
>>>> # received the new Win7 installation.
>>>>
>>>>The LetsEncrypt symptoms are reminiscent of a WinXP machine. A few months
>>>>back, a number of WinXP users were almost cut off from the Internet,
>>>>by a problem caused by all the https servers using LetsEncrypt certificates.
>>>>Those are free certificates that even sites like Eternal-September used.
>>>>LetsEncrypt was part of the "HTTPS (TLS) Everywhere" campaign. It is possible
>>>>to patch up Windows XP and make it work again. People who have *one* computer,
>>>>with WinXP on it, if the LetsEncrypt event were to happen today, they'd
>>>>have to use a public library computer and a USB stick, to escape the shackles.
>>>>If you have more than one computer, you should be able to repair Windows XP
>>>>and make the network work (well enough) again.
>>>>
>>>>I think you were on the Technician machine and running UpdateGenerator.exe .
>>>>
>>>>Once Wsusoffline has acquired a file set (could be 7GB worth), you visit
>>>>the destination machine and install using the second command.
>>>>
>>>>Steps:
>>>>
>>>>1) Start your work, on the Technician machine. This is a machine with a
>>>> working OS, with modern facilities on board. A working certificate store
>>>> would be part of a Technician machine OS. WinXP is kinda old for maintenance
>>>> work now.
>>>>
>>>> UpdateGenerator.exe # 7GB of downloads
>>>> # the updates will be stored in the folder the
>>>> # tools are in.
>>>>
>>>>2) Copy the 7GB folder (all of wsusoffline\ ), using a USB stick for carriage.
>>>> A USB stick allows you to walk a network driver over to the target machine
>>>> as well. As even if Wsusoffline install step worked, you still would not
>>>> have a working network.
>>>>
>>>> Once at the target machine, using an account with Administrator privilege
>>>> (the account made when you installed Windows 7). you run
>>>>
>>>> client\UpdateInstaller.exe # Only tick the tick boxes needed
>>>>
>>>>And after five reboots or so, it might be updated to some
>>>>degree of completion. Maybe ten or so (some jumbo) updates left.
>>>>
>>>>The reason WinXP isn't going to be a good Technician Machine, is the
>>>>certificate store on WinXP won't receive updates. Some of the OSes
>>>>check either daily or check weekly, for certificate store changes.
>>>>
>>>>Firefox has its own certificate store. However, the wsusoffline uses
>>>>onboard FOSS tools like "wget.exe" to fetch files, and it might be
>>>>relying on the OS certificate store and SChannel for services or something.
>>>>Not too many tools keep private certificate stores.
>>>>
>>>>What OS is on the Technician Machine, where you are preparing your
>>>>wsusoffline folder with the Windows 7 files expected ?
>>>>
>>>>You have to "fill up" the wsusoffline folder, before taking it over to the
>>>>"machine in desperate need of help". And the reason we're doing this,
>>>>is for the early phases of Wsusoffline, which repairs Windows Update
>>>>and get it working properly, without the user lifting a finger.
>>>
>>>Paul,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the detailed instructions. I was not aware that two
>>>machines were required, I have it running on my desktop (technicians
>>>machine) now and will then try running the downloaded files on the
>>>laptop in question (client machine).
>>>
>>> What boxes would you recommend ticking?
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
>>
>> By the way, I am not running Win XP if that makes any difference to
>>you. Also I am getting a LOT of "Certificate Authority.crl Failed"
>>with "403 Forbidden" during the WSUS download.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Downloads are smokin' along now, but since there are over 350 of
>them, I have to call it a day now. Will try running the updates
>tomorrow.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

I ran the updates (at least I think I did). When I check Windows
Update, it only shows 7 updates installed; 4 Security Updates and 3
Windows Updates. What happened to the 50 other updates that WSUS said
it installed? The log file only shows what WSUS downloaded, not what
it installed.

Computer appears to running fine and is allowing me to install
drivers from Dell, so no complaints so far. Just curiosity.

One more kind of big question for Paul: I have Windows set to start
without a password, and one user, so it should boot directly into
Windows without clicking anything. When WSUS was running, it created a
new user; WouTempAdmin. This required me to have to click on the user
icon every time the computer rebooted, which pretty much negated
unattended installing of updates. I tried clicking the WouTempAdmin
user but it required a password which I didn't have. Is there a way
around this if I ever have to do this again?

Thank you very much for being here, and all the help you give so
freely!!

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<