* Snidely:

> Snidely presented the following explanation :
>
>>> So far, you seem to be the only one who overflows a tub while having a
>>> shower, vs. quite a few AuE members who have been having showers in tubs
>>> for many years in many different tubs, without having the water even reach
>>> their ankles.
>
> For those reading carefully, I have never said the tub overflows. I
> have said that the water can reach the far end of the tub, so perhaps
> 1" depth. This is clearly a result of water being added to the tub
> faster than it is being removed.
>
> The part worse than the splashing is that this situation involves a
> flow rate into the tub (via the shower head) much greater than needed
> for a comfortable shower, and wastes water.
>
> Any ambitious person is welcome to tell me how fast water goes into
> their shower/tub, or how fast it flows out.

I did one, only one test. At full throttle, my shower puts out about 2.5
gallons in a minute. The drain is capable of taking that in.

In practice, I shower with a little less than that setting, and water
doesn't accumulate, unless the outflow is reduced from the strainer, in
the way CDB has described.

--
If men got pregnant, you could get an abortion at an ATM.
-- Selina Mayer, VEEP

On Friday or thereabouts, Quinn C asked ...
> * Snidely:
>
>> Snidely presented the following explanation :
>>
>>>> So far, you seem to be the only one who overflows a tub while having a
>>>> shower, vs. quite a few AuE members who have been having showers in tubs
>>>> for many years in many different tubs, without having the water even reach
>>>> their ankles.
>>
>> For those reading carefully, I have never said the tub overflows. I
>> have said that the water can reach the far end of the tub, so perhaps
>> 1" depth. This is clearly a result of water being added to the tub
>> faster than it is being removed.
>>
>> The part worse than the splashing is that this situation involves a
>> flow rate into the tub (via the shower head) much greater than needed
>> for a comfortable shower, and wastes water.
>>
>> Any ambitious person is welcome to tell me how fast water goes into
>> their shower/tub, or how fast it flows out.
>
> I did one, only one test. At full throttle, my shower puts out about 2.5
> gallons in a minute. The drain is capable of taking that in.
>
> In practice, I shower with a little less than that setting, and water
> doesn't accumulate, unless the outflow is reduced from the strainer, in
> the way CDB has described.

Thanks for this. I have now made an estimate of the maximum rate my
tub can handle without the water rising, and it does seem to be lower
than yours, around the 1-1.5 gpm I shower at. I will make similar
measurements when I reach the hotel again.

/dps

--
Rule #0: Don't be on fire.
In case of fire, exit the building before tweeting about it.
(Sighting reported by Adam F)

On Mon, 9 May 2022, at 17:35:19, Snidely posted:
>On Friday or thereabouts, Quinn C asked ...
>> * Snidely:
>>> Snidely presented the following explanation :
>>>
>>>>> So far, you seem to be the only one who overflows a tub while
>>>>>having a shower, vs. quite a few AuE members who have been having
>>>>>showers in tubs for many years in many different tubs, without
>>>>>having the water even reach their ankles.
>>> For those reading carefully, I have never said the tub overflows. I
>>>have said that the water can reach the far end of the tub, so perhaps
>>>1" depth. This is clearly a result of water being added to the tub
>>>faster than it is being removed.
>>> The part worse than the splashing is that this situation involves a
>>>flow rate into the tub (via the shower head) much greater than needed
>>>for a comfortable shower, and wastes water.
>>> Any ambitious person is welcome to tell me how fast water goes into
>>>their shower/tub, or how fast it flows out.
>>
>> I did one, only one test. At full throttle, my shower puts out about 2.5
>> gallons in a minute. The drain is capable of taking that in.
>> In practice, I shower with a little less than that setting, and water
>> doesn't accumulate, unless the outflow is reduced from the strainer, in
>> the way CDB has described.
>
>Thanks for this. I have now made an estimate of the maximum rate my
>tub can handle without the water rising, and it does seem to be lower
>than yours, around the 1-1.5 gpm I shower at. I will make similar
>measurements when I reach the hotel again.
>
I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or only
on special occasions?
--
Paul

Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:
> On Mon, 9 May 2022, at 17:35:19, Snidely posted:
>>On Friday or thereabouts, Quinn C asked ...
>>> * Snidely:
>>>> Snidely presented the following explanation :
>>>>
>>>>>> So far, you seem to be the only one who overflows a tub while having a
>>>>>> shower, vs. quite a few AuE members who have been having showers in
>>>>>> tubs for many years in many different tubs, without having the water
>>>>>> even reach their ankles.
>>>> For those reading carefully, I have never said the tub overflows. I have
>>>> said that the water can reach the far end of the tub, so perhaps 1"
>>>> depth. This is clearly a result of water being added to the tub faster
>>>> than it is being removed.
>>>> The part worse than the splashing is that this situation involves a flow
>>>> rate into the tub (via the shower head) much greater than needed for a
>>>> comfortable shower, and wastes water.
>>>> Any ambitious person is welcome to tell me how fast water goes into
>>>> their shower/tub, or how fast it flows out.
>>>
>>> I did one, only one test. At full throttle, my shower puts out about 2.5
>>> gallons in a minute. The drain is capable of taking that in.
>>> In practice, I shower with a little less than that setting, and water
>>> doesn't accumulate, unless the outflow is reduced from the strainer, in
>>> the way CDB has described.
>>
>>Thanks for this. I have now made an estimate of the maximum rate my tub can
>> handle without the water rising, and it does seem to be lower than yours,
>> around the 1-1.5 gpm I shower at. I will make similar measurements when I
>> reach the hotel again.
>>
> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed graduated
> measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or only on special
> occasions?

Special occasions. Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
water to use elsewhere, including the garden.

Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the
shower at a point when I can still make my next appointment.

Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the
hydrostatic pressure testing I've done. The second of those tests
requires some improvement in the fabrication before I report the
results, but the initial round of the second test was intriguing.

/dps

--
We’ve learned way more than we wanted to know about the early history
of American professional basketball, like that you could have once
watched a game between teams named the Indianapolis Kautskys and the
Akron Firestone Non-Skids. -- fivethirtyeight.com

Imagine a future 100 years hence when Tucker Carlson has been
completely forgotten (we hope). Someone comes across his name, and
searching takes them to this thread; however, the starting posts have
become corrupted. Will they think that Tuckems was primarily well known
for his ideas on plumbing fixtures?

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

In message <jdv2grFppi5U1@mid.individual.net> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> Imagine a future 100 years hence when Tucker Carlson has been
> completely forgotten

Oh, it won't take 100 years.

> (we hope). Someone comes across his name, and searching takes them to
> this thread; however, the starting posts have become corrupted. Will
> they think that Tuckems was primarily well known for his ideas on
> plumbing fixtures?

If the Internet archives are corrupted, the future is going to be very
very confused.

Might be a lesson for us looking at our own past? Naaaah!

--
"Yes," said the skull. "Quit while you're a head, that's what I say."

On 10-May-22 11:04, Snidely wrote:
> Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:

>> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
>> graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or
>> only on special occasions?
>
> Special occasions.  Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
> cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
> water to use elsewhere, including the garden.
>
> Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the shower
> at a point when I can still make my next appointment.
>
> Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the hydrostatic
> pressure testing I've done.  The second of those tests requires some
> improvement in the fabrication before I report the results, but the
> initial round of the second test was intriguing.

New topic: Measuring the output power of a domestic microwave oven.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 10-May-22 13:01, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> Imagine a future 100 years hence when Tucker Carlson has been completely
> forgotten (we hope). Someone comes across his name, and searching takes
> them to this thread; however, the starting posts have become corrupted.
> Will they think that Tuckems was primarily well known for his ideas on
> plumbing fixtures?
>
I suspect that, if there ever was a "Tucker Carlson", he has long since
been replaced by some deviant Turing machine which mimics right wing &
racist extremism.
However, Fox have failed to allow for the impact of positive[1] feedback
effects, and the OFF switch has been disabled.

[1] If ever there was a misnomer...

--
Sam Plusnet

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> On 10-May-22 11:04, Snidely wrote:
> > Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:
>
> >> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
> >> graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or
> >> only on special occasions?
> >
> > Special occasions. Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
> > cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
> > water to use elsewhere, including the garden.
> >
> > Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the shower
> > at a point when I can still make my next appointment.
> >
> > Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the hydrostatic
> > pressure testing I've done. The second of those tests requires some
> > improvement in the fabrication before I report the results, but the
> > initial round of the second test was intriguing.
>
> New topic: Measuring the output power of a domestic microwave oven.

Someone I know did just that.
Heating water, and measuring temperature increase.
It was part of her high school physics project, which was measuring
what is the most energy-efficient way of heating a liter of water,

Jan
(was by electric kettle, almost the same as directly on the gas, iirc)

On Tue, 10 May 2022 20:40:44 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 10-May-22 11:04, Snidely wrote:
>> Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:
>
>>> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
>>> graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or
>>> only on special occasions?
>>
>> Special occasions.  Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
>> cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
>> water to use elsewhere, including the garden.
>>
>> Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the shower
>> at a point when I can still make my next appointment.
>>
>> Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the hydrostatic
>> pressure testing I've done.  The second of those tests requires some
>> improvement in the fabrication before I report the results, but the
>> initial round of the second test was intriguing.
>
>New topic: Measuring the output power of a domestic microwave oven.

No, no, we have not yet plumbed the depths of possible shower topics.

There are still unknowns.

For example, is there a Coriolus effect on water drainage rate in the
bathtub? Does it drain faster above or below the Equator?

Or, is there a bubble effect on the water drainage rate? Does soapy
water drain slower because it contains bubbles?

Or, elevation/altitude. Will a bathtub of the same size and
configuration, with the same size and configuration of the drain,
drain faster or slower in:

Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 May 2022 20:40:44 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
> >On 10-May-22 11:04, Snidely wrote:
> >> Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:
> >
> >>> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
> >>> graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or
> >>> only on special occasions?
> >>
> >> Special occasions.  Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
> >> cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
> >> water to use elsewhere, including the garden.
> >>
> >> Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the shower
> >> at a point when I can still make my next appointment.
> >>
> >> Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the hydrostatic
> >> pressure testing I've done.  The second of those tests requires some
> >> improvement in the fabrication before I report the results, but the
> >> initial round of the second test was intriguing.
> >
> >New topic: Measuring the output power of a domestic microwave oven.
>
> No, no, we have not yet plumbed the depths of possible shower topics.
>
> There are still unknowns.
>
> For example, is there a Coriolus effect on water drainage rate in the
> bathtub? Does it drain faster above or below the Equator?
>
> Or, is there a bubble effect on the water drainage rate? Does soapy
> water drain slower because it contains bubbles?
>
> Or, elevation/altitude. Will a bathtub of the same size and
> configuration, with the same size and configuration of the drain,
> drain faster or slower in:
>
> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
>
That's really Bad.

If only "Shower" was a common placename.

How about an eco-friendly outdoor one: Waterfall?

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

* Sam Plusnet:

> On 10-May-22 11:04, Snidely wrote:
>> Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:
>
>>> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
>>> graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or
>>> only on special occasions?
>>
>> Special occasions.  Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
>> cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
>> water to use elsewhere, including the garden.
>>
>> Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the shower
>> at a point when I can still make my next appointment.
>>
>> Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the hydrostatic
>> pressure testing I've done.  The second of those tests requires some
>> improvement in the fabrication before I report the results, but the
>> initial round of the second test was intriguing.
>
> New topic: Measuring the output power of a domestic microwave oven.

Years ago I read in the instructions on a frozen meal: "Using microwaves
of different power can result in time shifts." My project to build a
time machine out of different microwave ovens hasn't come to fruition
yet, though. Please donate your unused, but functional microwave oven at
the address on the back of this post.

--
Mrs. Quinn: Is he alright?
Sister Michael: I wouldn't say so, no. He's a priest, like.
-- Derry Girls, series 1, episode 3

On Tue, 10 May 2022 21:43:30 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
>Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 May 2022 20:40:44 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On 10-May-22 11:04, Snidely wrote:
>> >> Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:
>> >
>> >>> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
>> >>> graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or
>> >>> only on special occasions?
>> >>
>> >> Special occasions.  Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
>> >> cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
>> >> water to use elsewhere, including the garden.
>> >>
>> >> Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the shower
>> >> at a point when I can still make my next appointment.
>> >>
>> >> Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the hydrostatic
>> >> pressure testing I've done.  The second of those tests requires some
>> >> improvement in the fabrication before I report the results, but the
>> >> initial round of the second test was intriguing.
>> >
>> >New topic: Measuring the output power of a domestic microwave oven.
>>
>> No, no, we have not yet plumbed the depths of possible shower topics.
>>
>> There are still unknowns.
>>
>> For example, is there a Coriolus effect on water drainage rate in the
>> bathtub? Does it drain faster above or below the Equator?
>>
>> Or, is there a bubble effect on the water drainage rate? Does soapy
>> water drain slower because it contains bubbles?
>>
>> Or, elevation/altitude. Will a bathtub of the same size and
>> configuration, with the same size and configuration of the drain,
>> drain faster or slower in:
>>
>> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
>> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
>> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
>> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
>>
>That's really Bad.
>
>
>If only "Shower" was a common placename.
>
>How about an eco-friendly outdoor one: Waterfall?

I was expecting a response from an Australian saying it was the urst
sugggestion he'd ever seen.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On 10-May-22 21:43, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
> Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
>> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
>> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
>> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
>>
> That's really Bad.
>
>
> If only "Shower" was a common placename.
>
> How about an eco-friendly outdoor one: Waterfall?
>

You live in South Wales, and have not considered the benefits of...

rain?

--
Sam Plusnet

In message <t8gl7h57i03tddipt5haprd313nlcvmmtt@4ax.com> Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2022 20:40:44 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>>On 10-May-22 11:04, Snidely wrote:
>>> Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:
>>
>>>> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
>>>> graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or
>>>> only on special occasions?
>>>
>>> Special occasions.  Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
>>> cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
>>> water to use elsewhere, including the garden.
>>>
>>> Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the shower
>>> at a point when I can still make my next appointment.
>>>
>>> Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the hydrostatic
>>> pressure testing I've done.  The second of those tests requires some
>>> improvement in the fabrication before I report the results, but the
>>> initial round of the second test was intriguing.
>>
>>New topic: Measuring the output power of a domestic microwave oven.

> No, no, we have not yet plumbed the depths of possible shower topics.

> There are still unknowns.

There are mostly only known unknowns, though.

I would like to know the percentage breakdown on:

Yes or no, do you regularly have water up to your ankles when
showering in a bathtub?

> For example, is there a Coriolus effect on water drainage rate in the
> bathtub? Does it drain faster above or below the Equator?

Obviously it drains fastest at the equator because the gravity is
strongest there because the earth bulges, so there is more mass between
you and the emptiness of space. Duh!

> Or, is there a bubble effect on the water drainage rate? Does soapy
> water drain slower because it contains bubbles?

It's balanced out by the lack of surface tension from the soap. The real
question is does the amount of shed skin affect the 'whirlpool' effect?
Do frequent bathers drain faster or slower?

> Or, elevation/altitude. Will a bathtub of the same size and
> configuration, with the same size and configuration of the drain,
> drain faster or slower in:

> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
Bath & Body Works, Denver, CO, US: 1600m/1 mile

--
Disorder is merely the order you were not looking for." Henri Bergson

On 11/05/22 06:43, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
> Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Or, elevation/altitude. Will a bathtub of the same size and
>> configuration, with the same size and configuration of the drain,
>> drain faster or slower in:
>>
>> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
>> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
>> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
>> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
>>
> That's really Bad.

There's more thurst in Bathurst.

> If only "Shower" was a common placename.
>
> How about an eco-friendly outdoor one: Waterfall?

Waterfall, NSW, is about 40 km north-east of Cataract.

If you leave the highway at Waterfall you end up with a pleasant drive
through a national park. Highly recommended for anyone travelling from
Wollongong to Sydney.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On 2022-05-10 14:35, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2022 20:40:44 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10-May-22 11:04, Snidely wrote:
>>> Tuesday, Paul Wolff quipped:
>>
>>>> I can't keep quiet any longer. Do you often take a wide-mouthed
>>>> graduated measuring cylinder and timer into the shower with you, or
>>>> only on special occasions?
>>>
>>> Special occasions.  Although some of the wide-mouth graduated measuring
>>> cylinders also allow me to recover the not-yet-at-operating-temperature
>>> water to use elsewhere, including the garden.
>>>
>>> Timers are often close to hand to assist me in getting out of the shower
>>> at a point when I can still make my next appointment.
>>>
>>> Some fabrication was involved in preparing equipment for the hydrostatic
>>> pressure testing I've done.  The second of those tests requires some
>>> improvement in the fabrication before I report the results, but the
>>> initial round of the second test was intriguing.
>>
>> New topic: Measuring the output power of a domestic microwave oven.
>
> No, no, we have not yet plumbed the depths of possible shower topics.
>
> There are still unknowns.
>
> For example, is there a Coriolus effect on water drainage rate in the
> bathtub? Does it drain faster above or below the Equator?

It might be very difficult to fine someone living on the equator, with a
shower both upstairs and in the basement.

> Or, is there a bubble effect on the water drainage rate? Does soapy
> water drain slower because it contains bubbles?
>
> Or, elevation/altitude. Will a bathtub of the same size and
> configuration, with the same size and configuration of the drain,
> drain faster or slower in:
>
> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
>
>
>
>
>
>

On 11/05/22 05:45, Sam Plusnet wrote:

> However, Fox have failed to allow for the impact of positive[1]
> feedback effects, and the OFF switch has been disabled.
>
> [1] If ever there was a misnomer...

One thing we learn from the theory of automatic control is that positive
feedback is bad and negative feedback is good. I once got an e-mail from
a student at one of the other Australian universities asking for
clarification about this, because his lecturer was teaching the opposite.

By coincidence, it turned out that the teacher was a former colleague of
mine. As nearly as I could judge, she had been misled by the terminology
of pop psychology.

Whatever the reason, it was a clear-cut case of someone being asked to
teach outside her area of expertise.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On 2022-05-10 23:41:40 +0000, Sam Plusnet said:

> On 10-May-22 21:43, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
>> Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
>>> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
>>> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
>>> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
>>>
>> That's really Bad.

Baden Baden, even.
>>
>>
>> If only "Shower" was a common placename.
>>
>> How about an eco-friendly outdoor one: Waterfall?
>>
>
> You live in South Wales, and have not considered the benefits of...
>
> rain?

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On 11/05/2022 7:25 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-05-10 23:41:40 +0000, Sam Plusnet said:
>
>> On 10-May-22 21:43, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
>>> Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
>>>> Bath, New York, US:  Elevation 451m/1,480feet
>>>> Bath, Zeeland, NL:  Elevation 0m/0feet
>>>> Bathurst, NSW, AU:  Elevation 677m/2,221feet
>>>>
>>> That's really Bad.
>
> Baden Baden, even.

Baden Baden Baden, odd.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

On 2022-05-11 06:40:05 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:

> On 11/05/2022 7:25 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2022-05-10 23:41:40 +0000, Sam Plusnet said:
>>
>>> On 10-May-22 21:43, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
>>>> Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
>>>>> Bath, New York, US:  Elevation 451m/1,480feet
>>>>> Bath, Zeeland, NL:  Elevation 0m/0feet
>>>>> Bathurst, NSW, AU:  Elevation 677m/2,221feet
>>>>>
>>>> That's really Bad.
>>
>> Baden Baden, even.
>
> Baden Baden Baden, odd.

I went through Baden Baden once (well, twice, actually -- there and
back) in the train from Marseilles to Frankfurt. I was expecting
something beautiful, or at least impressive, but Baden Baden looked as
grotty as most cities do when seen from the train.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 11:40:09 PM UTC-7, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 11/05/2022 7:25 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> > On 2022-05-10 23:41:40 +0000, Sam Plusnet said:
> >
> >> On 10-May-22 21:43, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
> >>> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
> >>>> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
> >>>> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
> >>>> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
> >>>>
> >>> That's really Bad.
> >
> > Baden Baden, even.

> Baden Baden Baden, odd.
>
Badger, badger, badger, badger, even odder.

On Wed, 11 May 2022 00:41:40 +0100
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> On 10-May-22 21:43, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
> > Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
> >> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
> >> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
> >> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
> >>
> > That's really Bad.
> >
> >
> > If only "Shower" was a common placename.
> >
> > How about an eco-friendly outdoor one: Waterfall?
> >
>
> You live in South Wales, and have not considered the benefits of...
>
> rain?
>
OK for Cold Showers, I spose.

Today it rains!

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Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Wed, 11 May 2022 10:17:46 +1000
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 11/05/22 06:43, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 May 2022 16:35:53 -0400
> > Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Or, elevation/altitude. Will a bathtub of the same size and
> >> configuration, with the same size and configuration of the drain,
> >> drain faster or slower in:
> >>
> >> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet
> >> Bath, New York, US: Elevation 451m/1,480feet
> >> Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation 0m/0feet
> >> Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet
> >>
> > That's really Bad.
>
> There's more thurst in Bathurst.
>
> > If only "Shower" was a common placename.
> >
> > How about an eco-friendly outdoor one: Waterfall?
>
> Waterfall, NSW, is about 40 km north-east of Cataract.
>
> If you leave the highway at Waterfall you end up with a pleasant drive
> through a national park. Highly recommended for anyone travelling from
> Wollongong to Sydney.
>
It is. But I didn't get to see the actual thing; it takes a [great^w] deal longer going that way.

We (UK) use "great deal" for much larger, but not (AFAIK) "a deal" for a larger but not excessive amount. Hmm, I'd not noticed that before.

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Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 5/11/2022 2:40 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet said:
>>> Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>> Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Bath, Somerset, UK: Elevation 24m/79feet Bath, New York, US:
>>>>> Elevation 451m/1,480feet Bath, Zeeland, NL: Elevation
>>>>> 0m/0feet Bathurst, NSW, AU: Elevation 677m/2,221feet

>>>> That's really Bad.

>> Baden Baden, even.

> Baden Baden Baden, odd.

Now you're wallowing.

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