On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 10:56:33 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 26/04/22 02:43, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 6:05:59 PM UTC-4, Anders D. Nygaard
> > wrote:
> >> Den 24-04-2022 kl. 21:51 skrev Peter T. Daniels:
> >>> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 12:24:33 PM UTC-4, Kerr-Mudd, John
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 14:23:00 +0100 Richard Heathfield
> >>>> <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

> >>>>> Quite. Regardless of their age, anyone who feels it necessary
> >>>>> to prove masculinity by peeing standing up has yet to reach
> >>>>> adulthood.
> >>>> I often see^w hear it the other way around; a lot of men seem
> >>>> reluctant to use the urinal, they go into a cubicle to pee.
> >>>> Still standing up, but wasting a flush.
> >>> Don't you flush the urinal? (Or step away from the sensor so it
> >>> flushes itself as you leave?)
> >> Waterless urinals haven't crossed the pond?
> > Uh -- don't they smell?
>
> Not in my experience. They are designed to conduct liquid away without
> leaving a residue. A big improvement over the older designs.

Must be some Space-Age materials! Perhaps involving fluorine
compounds!

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:16:26 AM UTC-4, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT)
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 1:56:41 PM UTC-4, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 18:07:44 +0100
> > > charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > > > In article <56932f73-ce60-4651...@googlegroups.com>, Peter
> > > > T. Daniels <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > > > > So it goes on flushing every N minutes, whether it's ben used in between
> > > > > or not?
> > > > They certainly used to, but most have an occupancy sensor these days. (for
> > > > at least the last 30 years). People started getting worried about waste of
> > > > water.
> > > I guess in New Jersey they don't worry about wasting water.
> > Do you even look at what you're responding to before you type an asinine
> > comment? You precisely echoed my concern about your urinals that
>
> Do you ever wonder that people "start" fights with you?

I certainly wonder in this case, where you pretended you were
"correcting" me when you stated exactly the same thing.

> > merrily flush away every N minutes regardless of how much or little
> > they are used
> > US urinals are (should be) flushed by the user after they are used
> > (or by machinery that knows when a user departs).
>
> Ah, the thing is you see, we don't have that system; some things aren't the same all over the world:
> "a pint's a pound the world around" is, to use your phrase, "a lie".

A urinal that doesn't waste water is better than one that does.
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:19:30 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
> On 4/25/2022 12:49 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> > That's the second question in this subthread that will doubtless go
> unanswered.
>
> Tony may have found a new way to madden you.

Eh? He's not even n this subthread.

But he's been ignoring questions about fact for years.

On 4/26/2022 9:30 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>> CDB wrote:
>>>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:

>>>>> Doubtless most people have observed (willy-nilly) the
>>>>> different postures of male and female canines doing their
>>>>> business on the sidewalk.
>>>> Two of my male dogs stopped lifting the leg when they got old.
>>>> Convenience again. My brother had a female great Pyrenees who
>>>> did lift hers about half the time. A terrible bully she was,
>>>> too.
>>> A trans bitch, maybe?

>> No, just a typical Great Pyrenees. they were bred to guard the
>> flocks from wolves.

> That explains both the alternating pose and the bullying?

I suspect that it takes extra testosterone to face down a hungry wolf.
In other respects, though, Sophie was a girly girl.

>>> I thought "willy-nilly" was sort-of clever -- intended
>>> etymologically, but also invoking the BrE "willy." (But not
>>> intended in the current sense.)

>> Yes; I missed it because I had started to wonder who would wish or
>> nish to observe such a common canine habit.

> It meant they would see it whether they wanted to or not

Willy nilly, wish nish.

On 4/26/2022 9:31 AM, lar3ryca wrote:

[perving]

>>>> Why did the non-practice of "bra-burning" attract so much
>>>> attention back when it didn't happen? Because it threatened the
>>>> male libido!

>> My eyes are up here, Buster.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7DniRWRA7s

A cameraman's lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL4z-nKmTgI

[...]

But my favourite is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFQmw-A3bDo

And now I'm asking myself if "tasted all the Summer's pride" is a
presentiment of the coming Fall.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:08:09 -0400, CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 4/25/2022 5:13 PM, Quinn C wrote:
>> Peter T. Daniels:
>>> Quinn C wrote:
>>>> Peter T. Daniels:
>>>>> Quinn C wrote:
>
>>>>>> Wearing a bra is part of the woman things I do, and I do it
>>>>>> just like women do.
>>>>> Do they? Again you're clinging to the 20th-century mode of
>>>>> dress for women that was designed to encourage the desire for
>>>>> women in heterosexual men. The place I most often see women IRL
>>>>> these days is on the local news and on Colbert. The women on
>>>>> Colbert are usually celebrities with plenty of disposable
>>>>> income, and they generally wear what's appropriate for a fairly
>>>>> formal occasion. Even the very well endowed seem rarely to
>>>>> wear a bra.
>
>>>> Are you sure you can judge that? I'm not so sure I can. Plus,
>>>> celebrities aren't a typical sample.
>
>>> Jeez. They're nearly popping out of their decolletage.
>
>>> Celebrity garb provides the model that filters down to the
>>> watchers. I didn't cite, for instance, the Met Gala.
>
>> Ok, I'm probably guilty of studiously avoiding celebrity coverage
>> (or uncoverage).
>
>>>>> But if you don't have large breasts, such that it would be
>>>>> uncomfortable for them not to be supported, then there can be
>>>>> no reason for wearing a bra other than conforming to the *Mad
>>>>> Men* sort of stereotype of female "attractiveness."
>
>>>> They didn't even have push-up bras back then, so ideas on
>>>> attractiveness have changed many times since then and aren't
>>>> perceived as men's expectations any more.
>
>>> ! What's "any more" got to do with it? At least one of your "waves"
>>> must have pointed out that the only purpose of mammaries is to
>>> nourish babies, and enhancing their prominence serves no purpose
>>> other than inflaming the "male gaze," a hot topic these days.
>
>> One reason to wear a bra is to keep the male gaze away from one's
>> nipples.
>
>In high school I wore a T-shirt under my buttoned shirt to keep
>everybody's eyes away from my nipples. So did most of my male classmates.

I, too, wore a tee shirt under my buttoned shirt in high school. For
reasons of conforming to style, though. Nipple notice was not a
consideration.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:40:25 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:19:30 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
>> On 4/25/2022 12:49 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>
>> > That's the second question in this subthread that will doubtless go
>> unanswered.
>>
>> Tony may have found a new way to madden you.
>
>Eh? He's not even n this subthread.
>
>But he's been ignoring questions about fact for years.

I never know if I should answer your questions. You often pose a
question, I reply with the answer to the question, and you indignently
respond that your question was rhetorical and obviously wasn't a
question.

As far as I can tell, one of the unanswered questions in this
subthread is "So it goes on flushing every N minutes, whether it's ben
used in between or not?"

I don't have an answer to that. I have plumbed my knowledge base on
the workings of urinals and come up dry.

The other still-unanswered question seems to be "Don't you flush the
urinal? (Or step away from the sensor so it flushes itself as you
leave?)"

The "you" in that case was Richard Heathfield. I declined to answer
that one on the basis of not being in a position to know Richard's
urinal habits. Even if was in position, I would follow the
conventional practice of men at the urinals in public toilets
studiously avoiding looking at other men at the urinals.

Frankly, I think there are more important questions to be asked on
this subject. Why, for example, do the British pronounce the word
"your rhine all" instead of the correct way of "yourin ell"? Assuming,
of course, that our way is the right way, and I'm sure you're
simpatico to that. No nation without a written Constitution can be
said to be doing things right.

Another important question would be abut pre-flush habits. I unzip my
fly with my right hand and pull out and hold my penis with my left
hand. Is this because I'm left-handed, and do right-handed people do
it opposite?

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On 2022-04-26 08:13, CDB wrote:
> On 4/26/2022 9:31 AM, lar3ryca wrote:
>
> [perving]
>
>>>>> Why did the non-practice of "bra-burning" attract so much
>>>>> attention back when it didn't happen? Because it threatened the
>>>>> male libido!
>
>>> My eyes are up here, Buster.
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7DniRWRA7s
>
> A cameraman's lot.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL4z-nKmTgI
>
> [...]
>
> But my favourite is
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFQmw-A3bDo
>
> And now I'm asking myself if "tasted all the Summer's pride" is a
> presentiment of the coming Fall.

I had most of their albums. I do remember that version, but they also
had a faster version. Can't remember what album it was on. I know they
made several versions of their first album, and perhaps I had one of them.

At one point in my life, I enjoyed The Fugs and The Holy Modal Rounders
a lot.

On 2022-04-26 09:48, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:40:25 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:19:30 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
>>> On 4/25/2022 12:49 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>
>>>> That's the second question in this subthread that will doubtless go
>>> unanswered.
>>>
>>> Tony may have found a new way to madden you.
>>
>> Eh? He's not even n this subthread.
>>
>> But he's been ignoring questions about fact for years.
>
> I never know if I should answer your questions. You often pose a
> question, I reply with the answer to the question, and you indignently
> respond that your question was rhetorical and obviously wasn't a
> question.
>
> As far as I can tell, one of the unanswered questions in this
> subthread is "So it goes on flushing every N minutes, whether it's ben
> used in between or not?"
>
> I don't have an answer to that. I have plumbed my knowledge base on
> the workings of urinals and come up dry.
>
> The other still-unanswered question seems to be "Don't you flush the
> urinal? (Or step away from the sensor so it flushes itself as you
> leave?)"
>
> The "you" in that case was Richard Heathfield. I declined to answer
> that one on the basis of not being in a position to know Richard's
> urinal habits. Even if was in position, I would follow the
> conventional practice of men at the urinals in public toilets
> studiously avoiding looking at other men at the urinals.

Two guys at adjacent urinals.
One says, "Wow, I see you are holding it with all 4 fingers."
He answers, "No biggie. You are too."
First guy says, "Well, I'm actually pissing on 3 of them."

> Frankly, I think there are more important questions to be asked on
> this subject. Why, for example, do the British pronounce the word
> "your rhine all" instead of the correct way of "yourin ell"? Assuming,
> of course, that our way is the right way, and I'm sure you're
> simpatico to that. No nation without a written Constitution can be
> said to be doing things right.
>
> Another important question would be abut pre-flush habits. I unzip my
> fly with my right hand and pull out and hold my penis with my left
> hand. Is this because I'm left-handed, and do right-handed people do
> it opposite?

Unzipping the fly with the right hand is (I think) pretty much universal
in North America, and perhaps elsewhere, because of the position of the
flap that covers the fly.

I hold the hose with my right hand. I am right handed.

On 26/04/2022 4:48 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:40:25 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:19:30 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
>>> On 4/25/2022 12:49 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>
>>>> That's the second question in this subthread that will doubtless go
>>> unanswered.
>>>
>>> Tony may have found a new way to madden you.
>>
>> Eh? He's not even n this subthread.
>>
>> But he's been ignoring questions about fact for years.
>
> I never know if I should answer your questions. You often pose a
> question, I reply with the answer to the question, and you indignently
> respond that your question was rhetorical and obviously wasn't a
> question.
>
> As far as I can tell, one of the unanswered questions in this
> subthread is "So it goes on flushing every N minutes, whether it's ben
> used in between or not?"
>
> I don't have an answer to that. I have plumbed my knowledge base on
> the workings of urinals and come up dry.
>
> The other still-unanswered question seems to be "Don't you flush the
> urinal? (Or step away from the sensor so it flushes itself as you
> leave?)"
>
> The "you" in that case was Richard Heathfield. I declined to answer
> that one on the basis of not being in a position to know Richard's
> urinal habits.

Quite why it matters I really don't wish to enquire but, if you must
know, in the UK urinals are self-flushing, and have been for as far back
as I can remember. In that respect, they're rather like killfiles; they
dispense of superfluous nonsense such as PTD outpourings without any
need to give them any further thought.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:17:46 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

>> Another important question would be abut pre-flush habits. I unzip my
>> fly with my right hand and pull out and hold my penis with my left
>> hand. Is this because I'm left-handed, and do right-handed people do
>> it opposite?
>
>Unzipping the fly with the right hand is (I think) pretty much universal
>in North America, and perhaps elsewhere, because of the position of the
>flap that covers the fly.
>
>I hold the hose with my right hand. I am right handed.
>
All things lead to gender identifiers.

The fly flap on men's trousers covers on the left and opens on the
right. A woman's blouse's flap over the buttons covers on the right
and opens on the left.

Coincidence?

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:14:03 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
> On 4/26/2022 9:31 AM, lar3ryca wrote:
[no, he did not]
> [perving]
> >>>> Why did the non-practice of "bra-burning" attract so much
> >>>> attention back when it didn't happen? Because it threatened the
> >>>> male libido!
> >> My eyes are up here, Buster.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7DniRWRA7s
>
> A cameraman's lot.

?

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL4z-nKmTgI
>
> [...]
>
> But my favourite is

Your favorite Fugs (new to me) song? It doesn't seem to have to
do with boobs. What was Ginsberg's contribution to the album?

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFQmw-A3bDo
>
> And now I'm asking myself if "tasted all the Summer's pride" is a
> presentiment of the coming Fall.

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:40:46 PM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 26/04/2022 4:48 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:40:25 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> > <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:19:30 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
> >>> On 4/25/2022 12:49 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >>>> That's the second question in this subthread that will doubtless go
> >>> unanswered.
> >>> Tony may have found a new way to madden you.
> >> Eh? He's not even n this subthread.
> >> But he's been ignoring questions about fact for years.
> > I never know if I should answer your questions. You often pose a
> > question, I reply with the answer to the question, and you indignently
> > respond that your question was rhetorical and obviously wasn't a
> > question.
> > As far as I can tell, one of the unanswered questions in this
> > subthread is "So it goes on flushing every N minutes, whether it's ben
> > used in between or not?"
> > I don't have an answer to that. I have plumbed my knowledge base on
> > the workings of urinals and come up dry.
> > The other still-unanswered question seems to be "Don't you flush the
> > urinal? (Or step away from the sensor so it flushes itself as you
> > leave?)"
> > The "you" in that case was Richard Heathfield. I declined to answer
> > that one on the basis of not being in a position to know Richard's
> > urinal habits.

I'm not displeased that TC wasted several minutes typing all that
logorrhea to say absolutely nothing. Well, so long as he "entertained"
himself.

> Quite why it matters I really don't wish to enquire but, if you must
> know, in the UK urinals are self-flushing, and have been for as far back
> as I can remember. In that respect, they're rather like killfiles; they
> dispense of superfluous nonsense such as PTD outpourings without any
> need to give them any further thought.

Obviously he typed that with no further thought. Or consideration of
what had already been included in the thread.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:37:20 -0700 (PDT)
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:16:26 AM UTC-4, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT)
> > "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 1:56:41 PM UTC-4, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 18:07:44 +0100
> > > > charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > > > > In article <56932f73-ce60-4651...@googlegroups.com>, Peter
> > > > > T. Daniels <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > So it goes on flushing every N minutes, whether it's ben used in between
> > > > > > or not?
> > > > > They certainly used to, but most have an occupancy sensor these days. (for
> > > > > at least the last 30 years). People started getting worried about waste of
> > > > > water.
> > > > I guess in New Jersey they don't worry about wasting water.
> > > Do you even look at what you're responding to before you type an asinine
> > > comment? You precisely echoed my concern about your urinals that
> >
> > Do you ever wonder that people "start" fights with you?
>
> I certainly wonder in this case, where you pretended you were
> "correcting" me when you stated exactly the same thing.

But you could have pointed it out nicely, instead you chose 'asinine'.
I refer you to:
"Do you ever wonder that people "start" fights with you?"
>
> > > merrily flush away every N minutes regardless of how much or little
> > > they are used
> > > US urinals are (should be) flushed by the user after they are used
> > > (or by machinery that knows when a user departs).
> >
> > Ah, the thing is you see, we don't have that system; some things aren't the same all over the world:
> > "a pint's a pound the world around" is, to use your phrase, "a lie".
>
> A urinal that doesn't waste water is better than one that does.

Hurrah, on this much, we agree.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:44:30 -0400
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:17:46 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
> >> Another important question would be abut pre-flush habits. I unzip my
> >> fly with my right hand and pull out and hold my penis with my left
> >> hand. Is this because I'm left-handed, and do right-handed people do
> >> it opposite?
> >
> >Unzipping the fly with the right hand is (I think) pretty much universal
> >in North America, and perhaps elsewhere, because of the position of the
> >flap that covers the fly.
> >
> >I hold the hose with my right hand. I am right handed.

Gosh. I've been doing it Wrong all these years.

Let's celebrate our differences, eh?
(Y-fronts and underpants are up next)

> >
> All things lead to gender identifiers.
>
> The fly flap on men's trousers covers on the left and opens on the
> right. A woman's blouse's flap over the buttons covers on the right
> and opens on the left.
>
> Coincidence?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida
>
> I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 11:39:25 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 10:14:03 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
>> On 4/26/2022 9:31 AM, lar3ryca wrote:
>
>[no, he did not]
>> [perving]
>> >>>> Why did the non-practice of "bra-burning" attract so much
>> >>>> attention back when it didn't happen? Because it threatened the
>> >>>> male libido!
>> >> My eyes are up here, Buster.
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7DniRWRA7s
>>
>> A cameraman's lot.
>
>?
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL4z-nKmTgI
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> But my favourite is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL4z-nKmTgI
>
>Your favorite Fugs (new to me) song? It doesn't seem to have to
>do with boobs.

It helps to listen to lyrics. They are:

Do you like boobs a lot?
(Yes, I like boobs a lot)
Why d'you like boobs a lot?
(You gotta like boobs a lot)
Do you like boobs a lot?
(Yes, I like boobs a lot)
Why d'you like boobs a lot?
(You gotta like boobs a lot)

>What was Ginsberg's contribution to the album?

Will it offend you if tell you that finger-activated research answers
that question?

The answer is howling clear if you do.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On 2022-04-26 11:44, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:17:46 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>>> Another important question would be abut pre-flush habits. I unzip my
>>> fly with my right hand and pull out and hold my penis with my left
>>> hand. Is this because I'm left-handed, and do right-handed people do
>>> it opposite?
>>
>> Unzipping the fly with the right hand is (I think) pretty much universal
>> in North America, and perhaps elsewhere, because of the position of the
>> flap that covers the fly.
>>
>> I hold the hose with my right hand. I am right handed.
>>
> All things lead to gender identifiers.
>
> The fly flap on men's trousers covers on the left and opens on the
> right. A woman's blouse's flap over the buttons covers on the right
> and opens on the left.

Not so much any more. As I mentioned elsethread, clothing manufactured
in some, if not all Asian producers pay no attention to those conventions.

> Coincidence?

On 2022-04-26 12:55, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:44:30 -0400
> Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:17:46 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>> Another important question would be abut pre-flush habits. I unzip my
>>>> fly with my right hand and pull out and hold my penis with my left
>>>> hand. Is this because I'm left-handed, and do right-handed people do
>>>> it opposite?
>>>
>>> Unzipping the fly with the right hand is (I think) pretty much universal
>>> in North America, and perhaps elsewhere, because of the position of the
>>> flap that covers the fly.
>>>
>>> I hold the hose with my right hand. I am right handed.
>
> Gosh. I've been doing it Wrong all these years.

I thought at first you were referring to the holding of the spout. Were
you referring to the opening ov the cover?

> Let's celebrate our differences, eh?
> (Y-fronts and underpants are up next)

I had to look y-fronts up. I don't think I have ever worn them, and
possibly have never seen them. I currently wear either briefs or
boxer-briefs.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:55:20 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:44:30 -0400
>Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:17:46 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >> Another important question would be abut pre-flush habits. I unzip my
>> >> fly with my right hand and pull out and hold my penis with my left
>> >> hand. Is this because I'm left-handed, and do right-handed people do
>> >> it opposite?
>> >
>> >Unzipping the fly with the right hand is (I think) pretty much universal
>> >in North America, and perhaps elsewhere, because of the position of the
>> >flap that covers the fly.
>> >
>> >I hold the hose with my right hand. I am right handed.
>
>Gosh. I've been doing it Wrong all these years.
>
>Let's celebrate our differences, eh?
>(Y-fronts and underpants are up next)

Isn't the term "y-front" used to refer to a type of underpants?

On 4/26/2022 10:50 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Quinn C wrote:
>>> Peter T. Daniels:
>>>> Quinn C wrote:
>>>>> Peter T. Daniels:
>>>>>> Quinn C wrote:

>>>>>>> Wearing a bra is part of the woman things I do, and I do
>>>>>>> it just like women do.
>>>>>> Do they? Again you're clinging to the 20th-century mode of
>>>>>> dress for women that was designed to encourage the desire
>>>>>> for women in heterosexual men. The place I most often see
>>>>>> women IRL these days is on the local news and on Colbert.
>>>>>> The women on Colbert are usually celebrities with plenty of
>>>>>> disposable income, and they generally wear what's
>>>>>> appropriate for a fairly formal occasion. Even the very
>>>>>> well endowed seem rarely to wear a bra.

>>>>> Are you sure you can judge that? I'm not so sure I can.
>>>>> Plus, celebrities aren't a typical sample.

>>>> Jeez. They're nearly popping out of their decolletage.

>>>> Celebrity garb provides the model that filters down to the
>>>> watchers. I didn't cite, for instance, the Met Gala.

>>> Ok, I'm probably guilty of studiously avoiding celebrity
>>> coverage (or uncoverage).

>>>>>> But if you don't have large breasts, such that it would be
>>>>>> uncomfortable for them not to be supported, then there can
>>>>>> be no reason for wearing a bra other than conforming to the
>>>>>> *Mad Men* sort of stereotype of female "attractiveness."

>>>>> They didn't even have push-up bras back then, so ideas on
>>>>> attractiveness have changed many times since then and aren't
>>>>> perceived as men's expectations any more.

>>>> ! What's "any more" got to do with it? At least one of your
>>>> "waves" must have pointed out that the only purpose of
>>>> mammaries is to nourish babies, and enhancing their prominence
>>>> serves no purpose other than inflaming the "male gaze," a hot
>>>> topic these days.

>>> One reason to wear a bra is to keep the male gaze away from
>>> one's nipples.

>> In high school I wore a T-shirt under my buttoned shirt to keep
>> everybody's eyes away from my nipples. So did most of my male
>> classmates.

> I, too, wore a tee shirt under my buttoned shirt in high school.
> For reasons of conforming to style, though. Nipple notice was not a
> consideration.

Some people's get stiff, like duck bumps but bigger.

I suppose it was more of a welcome effect than a motive.

--
Gander pimples?

On 26-Apr-22 4:06, Peter Moylan wrote:

> When I wash my hands at home, I adjust the tap for the smallest possible
> stream of water. That lets me add water only gradually as needed. A
> side benefit is that I need far less soap that way. Many people fail to
> understand the logic here, so they wash away the soap before it's had a
> chance to do its job.

We have soft water so a very little soap goes a long way.
My wife turns the tap full on, leaves it running, gets a huge squirt of
(liquid) soap and puts her hands into the flow - thus washing off 95% of
the soap she just collected - and then washes her hands.
>
> I agree that the sensor-controlled taps are faulty in that respect.
> However, the trend for the last many years has been to avoid the need
> for anyone to touch the equipment in public facilities, because user
> controls are a common way of transmitting disease. That's why
> user-operated flushing controls on urinals were abandoned (at least in
> this country) decades ago.
>
Taps need a more controllable controller - something akin to a Theramin.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 2022-04-26 10:02, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-04-26 08:13, CDB wrote:
>> On 4/26/2022 9:31 AM, lar3ryca wrote:
>>
>> [perving]
>>
>>>>>> Why did the non-practice of "bra-burning" attract so much
>>>>>> attention back when it didn't happen? Because it threatened the
>>>>>> male libido!
>>
>>>> My eyes are up here, Buster.
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7DniRWRA7s
>>
>> A cameraman's lot.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL4z-nKmTgI
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> But my favourite is
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFQmw-A3bDo
>>
>> And now I'm asking myself if "tasted all the Summer's pride" is a
>> presentiment of the coming Fall.
>
> I had most of their albums. I do remember that version, but they also
> had a faster version. Can't remember what album it was on. I know they
> made several versions of their first album, and perhaps I had one of them.

Found it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrNaH7Lxpc

I think it may have been in an earlier release of the album.
The version you posted is definitely better.

On 4/26/2022 2:39 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> lar3ryca wrote:

> [no, he did not]

>> [perving]

Maybe I meant
[Why did the non-practice of "bra-burning" attract so much
attention back when it didn't happen? Because it threatened the
male libido!]

>>>> My eyes are up here, Buster.

>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7DniRWRA7s

>> A cameraman's lot.

> ?

Didn't listen, eh? Wise decision: "Boobsalot".

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL4z-nKmTgI

>> [...]

>> But my favourite is

> Your favorite Fugs (new to me) song? It doesn't seem to have to do
> with boobs.

At thirteen, (thirteen!) Billy was barely off them?

> What was Ginsberg's contribution to the album?

The version I posted was a lot easier to listen to than the one on my
"Fugs First Album". Maybe that was his influence.

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFQmw-A3bDo

>> And now I'm asking myself if "tasted all the Summer's pride" is a
>> presentiment of the coming Fall.

On 26-Apr-22 19:50, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:37:20 -0700 (PDT)
> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>> A urinal that doesn't waste water is better than one that does.
>
> Hurrah, on this much, we agree.
>

Don't forget that its main purpose is to take the piss out of men.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 2022-04-26 13:45, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 26-Apr-22 4:06, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
>> When I wash my hands at home, I adjust the tap for the smallest possible
>> stream of water. That lets me add water only gradually as needed. A
>> side benefit is that I need far less soap that way. Many people fail to
>> understand the logic here, so they wash away the soap before it's had a
>> chance to do its job.
>
> We have soft water so a very little soap goes a long way.
> My wife turns the tap full on, leaves it running, gets a huge squirt of
> (liquid) soap and puts her hands into the flow - thus washing off 95% of
> the soap she just collected - and then washes her hands.
>>
>> I agree that the sensor-controlled taps are faulty in that respect.
>> However, the trend for the last many years has been to avoid the need
>> for anyone to touch the equipment in public facilities, because user
>> controls are a common way of transmitting disease. That's why
>> user-operated flushing controls on urinals were abandoned (at least in
>> this country) decades ago.
>>
> Taps need a more controllable controller - something akin to a Theramin.

Did you ever get that feeling that you have invented something, only to
find out that someone else has already invented it?

You should have that feeling right now, but I have no idea if it's
already patented and/or in production. That's a GREAT idea!