On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:59:32 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>On 2022-05-05 23:18:14 +0000, Lewis said:
>
>> In message <XnsAE8C848E25C0Ewhhvans@144.76.35.252> HVS
>> <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>>> This may well be an commonplace usage which I've simply not previously
>>> clocked, but I've noticed newspaper reports from Ukraine using
>>> "corpse" where I think I'd opt for "dead body". ("We saw corpses lying
>>> on both sides of the road.")
>>
>> I think corpses is the right word.
>>
>>> There's obviously nothing wrong with "corpse"; it's a perfectly
>>> accurate term. Nonetheless, it strikes me as being more emotive and
>>> gruesome than "body".
>>
>> That is one reason that corpse is the right word.
>>
>>> (Maybe I've watched too many horror movies, where it's definitely the
>>> case that corpses rather than bodies are re- animatead...)
>>
>> Corpse means a dead HUMAN body, exclusively.
>>
>> A dead body is not necessarily human, it would be any animal, from flea
>> on up.
>>
>>> Is this a personal quirk of mine
>>
>> It might just be not knowing the definitions of the two words?
>
>Where does "cadaver" fit into this scheme? It's not a word I use, ever,
>and it's not usual in British English, but I think it does occur in
>American speech.

I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech, but I've often
seen it in novels. But it's almost always in reference to what a post
mortem is being done on.

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> writes:
[cadaver]
>I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech, but I've often
>seen it in novels. But it's almost always in reference to what a post
>mortem is being done on.

Some hits from my text collection (capitalization as in the source):

From dictionaries/thesauruses/slang or associative dictionaries:

|pse corpse corse carcass cadaver bones skeleton dry bones defunct
|portant derivatives are: cadaver, cadence, cascade, case, chance
|: body, corpse, carcass, cadaver. These nouns denote the physical
|rcass in good condition. Cadaver is a corpse used for dissection
|nder, rotter, dog, rake. CADAVER n. stiff, cold meat, dead meat,
|ies. 1. Examination of a cadaver to determine or confirm the caus
|OFFIN, BOX, .006 COFFIN, CADAVER, .006 COFFIN, CLOSE, .006 COFFIN
|RY, BODY, .007 CEMETERY, CADAVER, .007 CEMETERY, COFFIN, .007 CEM
|KET, CACHE, .008 CASKET, CADAVER, .008 CASKET, FLOWER, .008 CASKE

From fiction:

|istic priests. The stale cadaver blocks up the passage ­ the buri
|w my stark and mutilated cadaver stretched upon a slab where cool
|aint at the sight of the cadaver; sank to the ground in a swoon;

From nonfiction:

|he gracious way to let a cadaver cutter, a tax collector, or a ca

On Fri, 06 May 2022 08:37:06 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:59:32 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
><acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>
>>On 2022-05-05 23:18:14 +0000, Lewis said:
>>
>>> In message <XnsAE8C848E25C0Ewhhvans@144.76.35.252> HVS
>>> <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> This may well be an commonplace usage which I've simply not previously
>>>> clocked, but I've noticed newspaper reports from Ukraine using
>>>> "corpse" where I think I'd opt for "dead body". ("We saw corpses lying
>>>> on both sides of the road.")
>>>
>>> I think corpses is the right word.
>>>
>>>> There's obviously nothing wrong with "corpse"; it's a perfectly
>>>> accurate term. Nonetheless, it strikes me as being more emotive and
>>>> gruesome than "body".
>>>
>>> That is one reason that corpse is the right word.
>>>
>>>> (Maybe I've watched too many horror movies, where it's definitely the
>>>> case that corpses rather than bodies are re- animatead...)
>>>
>>> Corpse means a dead HUMAN body, exclusively.
>>>
>>> A dead body is not necessarily human, it would be any animal, from flea
>>> on up.
>>>
>>>> Is this a personal quirk of mine
>>>
>>> It might just be not knowing the definitions of the two words?
>>
>>Where does "cadaver" fit into this scheme? It's not a word I use, ever,
>>and it's not usual in British English, but I think it does occur in
>>American speech.
>
>
>I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech, but I've often
>seen it in novels. But it's almost always in reference to what a post
>mortem is being done on.

Hearing it in speech would be problematical, but if you hung around
police departments you might hear them speak of "cadaver sniffing
dogs".

If you live near the University of Tennessee, you might hear someone
discussing the "Body Farm" at the Forensic Anthropology Center where
cadavers are placed.

If you were around medical students, the subject of cadavers might be
mentioned in conversations. They are not doing post mortems, though.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On 2022-05-06, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> On 2022-05-05 23:18:14 +0000, Lewis said:
>
>> In message <XnsAE8C848E25C0Ewhhvans@144.76.35.252> HVS
>> <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>>> This may well be an commonplace usage which I've simply not previously
>>> clocked, but I've noticed newspaper reports from Ukraine using
>>> "corpse" where I think I'd opt for "dead body". ("We saw corpses lying
>>> on both sides of the road.")
>>
>> I think corpses is the right word.
>>
>>> There's obviously nothing wrong with "corpse"; it's a perfectly
>>> accurate term. Nonetheless, it strikes me as being more emotive and
>>> gruesome than "body".
>>
>> That is one reason that corpse is the right word.
>>
>>> (Maybe I've watched too many horror movies, where it's definitely the
>>> case that corpses rather than bodies are re- animatead...)
>>
>> Corpse means a dead HUMAN body, exclusively.
>>
>> A dead body is not necessarily human, it would be any animal, from flea
>> on up.
>>
>>> Is this a personal quirk of mine
>>
>> It might just be not knowing the definitions of the two words?
>
> Where does "cadaver" fit into this scheme? It's not a word I use, ever,
> and it's not usual in British English, but I think it does occur in
> American speech.

But is it exquisite?

--
And don't forget my dog, fixed and consequent

On 2022-05-06, Stefan Ram wrote:

> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> writes:
> [cadaver]
>>I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech, but I've often
>>seen it in novels. But it's almost always in reference to what a post
>>mortem is being done on.
>
> Some hits from my text collection (capitalization as in the source):
>
> From dictionaries/thesauruses/slang or associative dictionaries:
>
>|pse corpse corse carcass cadaver bones skeleton dry bones defunct
>|portant derivatives are: cadaver, cadence, cascade, case, chance
>|: body, corpse, carcass, cadaver. These nouns denote the physical
>|rcass in good condition. Cadaver is a corpse used for dissection
>|nder, rotter, dog, rake. CADAVER n. stiff, cold meat, dead meat,
>|ies. 1. Examination of a cadaver to determine or confirm the caus
>|OFFIN, BOX, .006 COFFIN, CADAVER, .006 COFFIN, CLOSE, .006 COFFIN
>|RY, BODY, .007 CEMETERY, CADAVER, .007 CEMETERY, COFFIN, .007 CEM
>|KET, CACHE, .008 CASKET, CADAVER, .008 CASKET, FLOWER, .008 CASKE

I see you're doing a keyword in context search, but what in the world
are the last three matches above from, a funerary catalogue?

>
> From fiction:
>
>|istic priests. The stale cadaver blocks up the passage ­ the buri
>|w my stark and mutilated cadaver stretched upon a slab where cool
>|aint at the sight of the cadaver; sank to the ground in a swoon;
>
> From nonfiction:
>
>|he gracious way to let a cadaver cutter, a tax collector, or a ca
>
>

--
It's a tasty world.

Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> writes:
>On 2022-05-06, Stefan Ram wrote:
....
>>|OFFIN, BOX, .006 COFFIN, CADAVER, .006 COFFIN, CLOSE, .006 COFFIN
>>|RY, BODY, .007 CEMETERY, CADAVER, .007 CEMETERY, COFFIN, .007 CEM
>>|KET, CACHE, .008 CASKET, CADAVER, .008 CASKET, FLOWER, .008 CASKE
>I see you're doing a keyword in context search, but what in the world
>are the last three matches above from, a funerary catalogue?

From a "Free Association" dictionary. In my quotation,
clarity was somewhat lost because several different lines
were merged into a single line. Actually those three lines are:

|CASKET, CADAVER, .008
|CEMETERY, CADAVER, .007
|COFFIN, CADAVER, .006

. Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
nonfiction overall.

On Fri, 06 May 2022 12:55:36 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 06 May 2022 08:37:06 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:59:32 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>><acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2022-05-05 23:18:14 +0000, Lewis said:
>>>
>>>> In message <XnsAE8C848E25C0Ewhhvans@144.76.35.252> HVS
>>>> <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> This may well be an commonplace usage which I've simply not previously
>>>>> clocked, but I've noticed newspaper reports from Ukraine using
>>>>> "corpse" where I think I'd opt for "dead body". ("We saw corpses lying
>>>>> on both sides of the road.")
>>>>
>>>> I think corpses is the right word.
>>>>
>>>>> There's obviously nothing wrong with "corpse"; it's a perfectly
>>>>> accurate term. Nonetheless, it strikes me as being more emotive and
>>>>> gruesome than "body".
>>>>
>>>> That is one reason that corpse is the right word.
>>>>
>>>>> (Maybe I've watched too many horror movies, where it's definitely the
>>>>> case that corpses rather than bodies are re- animatead...)
>>>>
>>>> Corpse means a dead HUMAN body, exclusively.
>>>>
>>>> A dead body is not necessarily human, it would be any animal, from flea
>>>> on up.
>>>>
>>>>> Is this a personal quirk of mine
>>>>
>>>> It might just be not knowing the definitions of the two words?
>>>
>>>Where does "cadaver" fit into this scheme? It's not a word I use, ever,
>>>and it's not usual in British English, but I think it does occur in
>>>American speech.
>>
>>
>>I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech, but I've often
>>seen it in novels. But it's almost always in reference to what a post
>>mortem is being done on.
>
>Hearing it in speech would be problematical, but if you hung around
>police departments you might hear them speak of "cadaver sniffing
>dogs".
>
>If you live near the University of Tennessee, you might hear someone
>discussing the "Body Farm" at the Forensic Anthropology Center where
>cadavers are placed.
>
>If you were around medical students, the subject of cadavers might be
>mentioned in conversations. They are not doing post mortems, though.

Additional thoughts...the difference between a dead body and a cadaver
seems to be how long after death the body is described.

A policeman might find a dead body in a house, but if the deceased
died a few months ago and was discovered in the woods, the body would
be a cadaver.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Fri, 06 May 2022 12:55:36 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 06 May 2022 08:37:06 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:59:32 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>><acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2022-05-05 23:18:14 +0000, Lewis said:
>>>
>>>> In message <XnsAE8C848E25C0Ewhhvans@144.76.35.252> HVS
>>>> <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> This may well be an commonplace usage which I've simply not previously
>>>>> clocked, but I've noticed newspaper reports from Ukraine using
>>>>> "corpse" where I think I'd opt for "dead body". ("We saw corpses lying
>>>>> on both sides of the road.")
>>>>
>>>> I think corpses is the right word.
>>>>
>>>>> There's obviously nothing wrong with "corpse"; it's a perfectly
>>>>> accurate term. Nonetheless, it strikes me as being more emotive and
>>>>> gruesome than "body".
>>>>
>>>> That is one reason that corpse is the right word.
>>>>
>>>>> (Maybe I've watched too many horror movies, where it's definitely the
>>>>> case that corpses rather than bodies are re- animatead...)
>>>>
>>>> Corpse means a dead HUMAN body, exclusively.
>>>>
>>>> A dead body is not necessarily human, it would be any animal, from flea
>>>> on up.
>>>>
>>>>> Is this a personal quirk of mine
>>>>
>>>> It might just be not knowing the definitions of the two words?
>>>
>>>Where does "cadaver" fit into this scheme? It's not a word I use, ever,
>>>and it's not usual in British English, but I think it does occur in
>>>American speech.
>>
>>
>>I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech, but I've often
>>seen it in novels. But it's almost always in reference to what a post
>>mortem is being done on.
>
>Hearing it in speech would be problematical, but if you hung around
>police departments you might hear them speak of "cadaver sniffing
>dogs".
>
>If you live near the University of Tennessee, you might hear someone
>discussing the "Body Farm" at the Forensic Anthropology Center where
>cadavers are placed.
>
>If you were around medical students, the subject of cadavers might be
>mentioned in conversations. They are not doing post mortems, though.

Yes, I forgot about medical schools.

Friday, Stefan Ram observed:

> . Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
> fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
> that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
> nonfiction overall.

What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?

Also, "Should I add" is a question formm and I'd expect a question
mark where you have a comma. Or I'd expect "I should add" to start the
question. As it stands, this form of inversion would be incorrect in
English (I'm not worried about confusing HK here).

/dps

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On Fri, 06 May 2022 11:29:23 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 06 May 2022 12:55:36 -0400, Tony Cooper
><tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 May 2022 08:37:06 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:59:32 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>>><acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2022-05-05 23:18:14 +0000, Lewis said:
>>>>
>>>>> In message <XnsAE8C848E25C0Ewhhvans@144.76.35.252> HVS
>>>>> <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> This may well be an commonplace usage which I've simply not previously
>>>>>> clocked, but I've noticed newspaper reports from Ukraine using
>>>>>> "corpse" where I think I'd opt for "dead body". ("We saw corpses lying
>>>>>> on both sides of the road.")
>>>>>
>>>>> I think corpses is the right word.
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's obviously nothing wrong with "corpse"; it's a perfectly
>>>>>> accurate term. Nonetheless, it strikes me as being more emotive and
>>>>>> gruesome than "body".
>>>>>
>>>>> That is one reason that corpse is the right word.
>>>>>
>>>>>> (Maybe I've watched too many horror movies, where it's definitely the
>>>>>> case that corpses rather than bodies are re- animatead...)
>>>>>
>>>>> Corpse means a dead HUMAN body, exclusively.
>>>>>
>>>>> A dead body is not necessarily human, it would be any animal, from flea
>>>>> on up.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this a personal quirk of mine
>>>>>
>>>>> It might just be not knowing the definitions of the two words?
>>>>
>>>>Where does "cadaver" fit into this scheme? It's not a word I use, ever,
>>>>and it's not usual in British English, but I think it does occur in
>>>>American speech.
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech, but I've often
>>>seen it in novels. But it's almost always in reference to what a post
>>>mortem is being done on.
>>
>>Hearing it in speech would be problematical, but if you hung around
>>police departments you might hear them speak of "cadaver sniffing
>>dogs".
>>
>>If you live near the University of Tennessee, you might hear someone
>>discussing the "Body Farm" at the Forensic Anthropology Center where
>>cadavers are placed.
>>
>>If you were around medical students, the subject of cadavers might be
>>mentioned in conversations. They are not doing post mortems, though.
>
>Yes, I forgot about medical schools.

When I was in surgical instrument/equipment sales in Indiana, the
Purchasing Agent at Indiana University Medical Center sent me to the
dissection lab to compile a list of instruments they would need for an
expansion they were planning.

A number of medical students were dissecting cadavers. I went through
the room where the cadavers that were to be used for the next batch of
students were kept. They were in compartments in the floor floating
in some solution to preserve them. The compartments were covered with
thick wooden lids that took two people to lift. I assume the wood
absorbed the fumes.

I finished about noon, but went directly home to change clothes and
shower. I felt that smell of the chemicals (something like or
containing formaldehyde) had left with me.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On 2022-05-06 12:32, Snidely wrote:
> Friday, Stefan Ram observed:
>
>>   . Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
>>   fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
>>   that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
>>   nonfiction overall.
>
> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?
>
>
> Also, "Should I add"  is a question formm and I'd expect a question mark
> where you have a comma.  Or I'd expect "I should add" to start the
> question.  As it stands, this form of inversion would be incorrect in
> English (I'm not worried about confusing HK here).

"I should add" does not start a question.

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:32:27 PM UTC-4, snide...@gmail.com wrote:
> Friday, Stefan Ram observed:

> > . Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
> > fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
> > that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
> > nonfiction overall.
>
> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?

The Excluded Middle.

Snidely scribbled something on Friday the 5/6/2022:
> Friday, Stefan Ram observed:
>
>> . Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
>> fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
>> that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
>> nonfiction overall.
>
> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?
>
>
> Also, "Should I add" is a question formm

mmmmmm
[insert Humming Chorus]

> and I'd expect a question mark
> where you have a comma. Or I'd expect "I should add" to start the question.

Erp .. "to start the sentence", of course, or "to start the statement".

> As it stands, this form of inversion would be incorrect in English (I'm not
> worried about confusing HK here).

/dps

--
"That’s where I end with this kind of conversation: Language is
crucial, and yet not the answer."
Jonathan Rosa, sociocultural and linguistic anthropologist,
Stanford.,2020

* Snidely:

> Friday, Stefan Ram observed:
>
>> . Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
>> fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
>> that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
>> nonfiction overall.
>
> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?

Diaries, letters, news?

At least I'm not usually thinking of news when I hear "nonfiction", but
primarily of "literary nonfiction", i.e. books and essayistic articles.

--
CW: Historical misogyny
Jbzna vf n cnve bs binevrf jvgu n uhzna orvat nggnpurq, jurernf
zna vf n uhzna orvat sheavfurq jvgu n cnve bs grfgrf.
-- Rudolf Virchow

* Stefan Ram:

> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> writes:
> [cadaver]
>>I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech, but I've often
>>seen it in novels. But it's almost always in reference to what a post
>>mortem is being done on.
>
> Some hits from my text collection (capitalization as in the source):
>
> From dictionaries/thesauruses/slang or associative dictionaries:
>
>|pse corpse corse carcass cadaver bones skeleton dry bones defunct
>|portant derivatives are: cadaver, cadence, cascade, case, chance
>|: body, corpse, carcass, cadaver. These nouns denote the physical
>|rcass in good condition. Cadaver is a corpse used for dissection
>|nder, rotter, dog, rake. CADAVER n. stiff, cold meat, dead meat,
>|ies. 1. Examination of a cadaver to determine or confirm the caus
>|OFFIN, BOX, .006 COFFIN, CADAVER, .006 COFFIN, CLOSE, .006 COFFIN
>|RY, BODY, .007 CEMETERY, CADAVER, .007 CEMETERY, COFFIN, .007 CEM
>|KET, CACHE, .008 CASKET, CADAVER, .008 CASKET, FLOWER, .008 CASKE
>
> From fiction:
>
>|istic priests. The stale cadaver blocks up the passage ­ the buri
>|w my stark and mutilated cadaver stretched upon a slab where cool
>|aint at the sight of the cadaver; sank to the ground in a swoon;
>
> From nonfiction:
>
>|he gracious way to let a cadaver cutter, a tax collector, or a ca

In German, a "Kadaver" is normally the dead body of an animal. Using it
for a human body could be interpreted as lack of respect, or it could
express that the body has been treated with lack of respect, e.g. in war
(left on the ground, thrown into a mass grave).

I guess "carcass" is a close English equivalent.

--
CW: Historical misogyny
Jbzna vf n cnve bs binevrf jvgu n uhzna orvat nggnpurq, jurernf
zna vf n uhzna orvat sheavfurq jvgu n cnve bs grfgrf.
-- Rudolf Virchow

On Fri, 6 May 2022 18:36:35 -0400, Quinn C
<lispamateur@crommatograph.info> wrote:

>* Snidely:
>
>> Friday, Stefan Ram observed:
>>
>>> . Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
>>> fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
>>> that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
>>> nonfiction overall.
>>
>> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?
>
>Diaries, letters, news?

And perhaps, most common, speech.

>
>At least I'm not usually thinking of news when I hear "nonfiction", but
>primarily of "literary nonfiction", i.e. books and essayistic articles.

In message <42ga7htk60p8ocv967p1pt73b0au59ubpd@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:59:32 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>>On 2022-05-05 23:18:14 +0000, Lewis said:
>>
>>> In message <XnsAE8C848E25C0Ewhhvans@144.76.35.252> HVS
>>> <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> This may well be an commonplace usage which I've simply not previously
>>>> clocked, but I've noticed newspaper reports from Ukraine using
>>>> "corpse" where I think I'd opt for "dead body". ("We saw corpses lying
>>>> on both sides of the road.")
>>>
>>> I think corpses is the right word.
>>>
>>>> There's obviously nothing wrong with "corpse"; it's a perfectly
>>>> accurate term. Nonetheless, it strikes me as being more emotive and
>>>> gruesome than "body".
>>>
>>> That is one reason that corpse is the right word.
>>>
>>>> (Maybe I've watched too many horror movies, where it's definitely the
>>>> case that corpses rather than bodies are re- animatead...)
>>>
>>> Corpse means a dead HUMAN body, exclusively.
>>>
>>> A dead body is not necessarily human, it would be any animal, from flea
>>> on up.
>>>
>>>> Is this a personal quirk of mine
>>>
>>> It might just be not knowing the definitions of the two words?
>>
>>Where does "cadaver" fit into this scheme? It's not a word I use, ever,
>>and it's not usual in British English, but I think it does occur in
>>American speech.

> I don't remember ever hearing it in American speech

I've definitely hear it spoken in both TV and movies. Not sue I've ever
heard it in conversation with a person I was within 'social distance'
of outside of a role-playing game.

One that I can recall is in the movie Prisoners, "We're deploying
cadaver dogs." If you've seen this movie, I would expect you would
remember this line.

I'm pretty sire the quote is in one of the early Underworld movies, but it
might be one of the Blade movies.

--
Thanks to great leaders such as Ghengis Khan, Joan of Arc, and
Socratic Method, the world is full of history.

In message <mn.32b47e65d1fb425a.127094@snitoo> Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?

Reality.

--
In the velvet darkness of the blackest night Burning bright There's a
guiding star

* Ken Blake <cufa7h1spkn1napdplandbcb8abpainbj7 @4ax.com> :
Wrote on Fri, 06 May 2022 08:34:39 -0700:

> On Fri, 6 May 2022 06:29:07 +0100, Hibou
>
>>Le 04/05/2022 à 16:31, Ken Blake a écrit :
>>> On Wed, 4 May 2022 09:16:15 +0100, Hibou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If I were a journalist, I think I'd opt for 'dead body', because I find
>>>> it more strongly suggests it was recently alive. 'Corpse' evokes a
>>>> mortuary, a slab, and puzzled detectives.
>>>
>>> "Dead body" is redundant. Just "body" would do,
>>
>>I think the default meaning depends on context. After the massacre,
>>there were bodies everywhere. The beach was packed with bodies sunning
>>themselves. She had a beautiful body.

[I think you (H.b)'re misrepresenting HVS original-post a bit.]
Ob. Agatha Christie, she used this pun on "bodies" in the plot (and
execution) of /Evil under the Sun/

> Yes, my point exactly. "Dead body" was redundant in the quoted
> passage..

it wasn't quoted because the passage didn't use it. Instead it used
"corpse" for effect

On 2022-05-06, Snidely wrote:

> Friday, Stefan Ram observed:
>
>> . Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
>> fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
>> that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
>> nonfiction overall.
>
> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?

tertium quid

--
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funny on my machine.

Stefan Ram:
>>> ...the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
>>> nonfiction overall.

"D.P.S.":
>> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?
Adam Funk:
> tertium quid

The question was what's left, not how much it costs!
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Toronto | a real part and an imaginary part."
msb@vex.net | --Andrew Koenig

Le 07/05/2022 à 17:09, Madhu a écrit :
>
> [I think you (H.b)'re misrepresenting HVS original-post a bit.]

I was exploring the default meaning of 'body'. As to the OP's sample
sentence, 'dead' before 'bodies', though not necessary, is a valid
stylistic choice, I think. Or one could write: "We saw the dead lying on
both sides of the road."

On 2022-05-06, Stefan Ram wrote:

> Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> writes:
>>On 2022-05-06, Stefan Ram wrote:
> ...
>>>|OFFIN, BOX, .006 COFFIN, CADAVER, .006 COFFIN, CLOSE, .006 COFFIN
>>>|RY, BODY, .007 CEMETERY, CADAVER, .007 CEMETERY, COFFIN, .007 CEM
>>>|KET, CACHE, .008 CASKET, CADAVER, .008 CASKET, FLOWER, .008 CASKE
>>I see you're doing a keyword in context search, but what in the world
>>are the last three matches above from, a funerary catalogue?
>
> From a "Free Association" dictionary. In my quotation,
> clarity was somewhat lost because several different lines
> were merged into a single line. Actually those three lines are:
>
>|CASKET, CADAVER, .008
>|CEMETERY, CADAVER, .007
>|COFFIN, CADAVER, .006
>
> . Should add that I usually get more hits for most words in
> fiction and nonfiction, so the small number of hits shows
> that the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
> nonfiction overall.

So what is the Free Assocation dictionary that you are using, & what
are the numbers at the end --- scores of some kind?

--
A lot of people never use their intiative because no-one
told them to. ---Banksy

On 2022-05-07, Mark Brader wrote:

> Stefan Ram:
>>>> ...the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
>>>> nonfiction overall.
>
> "D.P.S.":
>>> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?
>
> Adam Funk:
>> tertium quid
>
> The question was what's left, not how much it costs!

In old money you could divide it evenly by 3.

--
I've had a few myself, he said,
but I never quit when I'm ahead

In article <a5vmkix6aa.ln2@news.ducksburg.com>,
Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> On 2022-05-07, Mark Brader wrote:

> > Stefan Ram:
> >>>> ...the word "cadaver" is rarely used in fiction and
> >>>> nonfiction overall.
> >
> > "D.P.S.":
> >>> What's left when fiction and nonfiction have been removed?
> >
> > Adam Funk:
> >> tertium quid
> >
> > The question was what's left, not how much it costs!

> In old money you could divide it evenly by 3.

= 6/8d

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