I would like to know if I can use "the mind inside" instead of "the mind within" in the following sentence.

Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and delicacy of the mind within.

Cordially,

LP

* Lazypierrot <f288b56b-8325-442d-a746-6527510a5fc2n @googlegroups.com> :
Wrote on Thu, 5 May 2022 22:28:14 -0700 (PDT):

> I would like to know if I can use "the mind inside" instead of "the
> mind within" in the following sentence.

no. the mind isn't "inside" [the cap], but it is "within" [the wearer
[of the cap]]

> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> delicacy of the mind within.

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 1:28:17 AM UTC-4, Lazypierrot wrote:
> I would like to know if I can use "the mind inside" instead of "the mind within" in the following sentence.
>
> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and delicacy of the mind within.
>
> Cordially,

Its good you didn't say the cap was silver. It may have been confused with a "dunce cap".

On 06/05/22 15:28, Lazypierrot wrote:

> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> delicacy of the mind within.

That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.

We are not told why the groom wears black.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On 6/05/2022 5:28 p.m., Lazypierrot wrote:
> I would like to know if I can use "the mind inside" instead of "the mind within" in the following sentence.
>
> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and delicacy of the mind within.
>
>
> Cordially,
>
> LP
>

"Inside" is too concrete; jars with the style.

On 5/10/2022 8:41 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> Lazypierrot wrote:

>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
>> delicacy of the mind within.

> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.

> We are not told why the groom wears black.

White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.

In article <t5g40j$b3e$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/10/2022 8:41 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > Lazypierrot wrote:

> >> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> >> delicacy of the mind within.

> > That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.

> > We are not told why the groom wears black.

> White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.

I went to a funeral yesterday - we were told to wear 'joyful' clothing.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article <t5f0n4$4vh$3@dont-email.me>, peter@pmoylan.org.invalid
says...
>
> On 06/05/22 15:28, Lazypierrot wrote:
>
> > Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> > delicacy of the mind within.
>
> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.

Queen Victoria was one of the first brides to wear a white dress,
which set that fashion in the western world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_dress_of_Queen_Victoria

I wore a shocking pink mini dress

Janet

In article <t5g40j$b3e$1@gioia.aioe.org>, bellemarecd@gmail.com says...
>
> On 5/10/2022 8:41 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > Lazypierrot wrote:
>
> >> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> >> delicacy of the mind within.
>
> > That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.
>
> > We are not told why the groom wears black.
>
> White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.

Except in cultures where white signifies mourning/bereavement.

Janet

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:24:18 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
> In article <t5f0n4$4vh$3...@dont-email.me>, pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid
> says...
> > On 06/05/22 15:28, Lazypierrot wrote:
> > > Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> > > delicacy of the mind within.
> > That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.
>
> Queen Victoria was one of the first brides to wear a white dress,
> which set that fashion in the western world.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_dress_of_Queen_Victoria
>
> I wore a shocking pink mini dress

Janet as Sloane Ranger? (It seems the style is "back," at least as of 2020.)

On 11-May-22 12:22, charles wrote:
> In article <t5g40j$b3e$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/10/2022 8:41 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> Lazypierrot wrote:
>
>>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
>>>> delicacy of the mind within.
>
>>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.
>
>>> We are not told why the groom wears black.
>
>> White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.
>
> I went to a funeral yesterday - we were told to wear 'joyful' clothing.
>
'Informal clothing in loud and clashing colours' was the rig of the day
at a friend's funeral.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 5/11/2022 7:22 AM, charles wrote:
> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> Lazypierrot wrote:

>>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity
>>>> and delicacy of the mind within.

>>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a
>>> wedding.

>>> We are not told why the groom wears black.

>> White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.

> I went to a funeral yesterday - we were told to wear 'joyful'
> clothing.

when you gather to mourn
And you're gladly adorned,
That's O mores!

On 5/11/2022 8:50 AM, Janet wrote:
> bellemarecd@gmail.com says...
>> Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> Lazypierrot wrote:

>>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity
>>>> and delicacy of the mind within.

>>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a
>>> wedding.

>>> We are not told why the groom wears black.

>> White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.

> Except in cultures where white signifies mourning/bereavement.

This was from _The Importance of being Earnest_, maybe only from the
movie version with Dame Edith. I couldn't find the phrase at Gooboo or
I would have used quotation marks.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 06/05/22 15:28, Lazypierrot wrote:
>
> > Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> > delicacy of the mind within.
> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.
>
> We are not told why the groom wears black.

The point is we are not told why non-pure ladies wear white during weddings.

bruce bowser hat am 11.05.2022 um 23:07 geschrieben:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 06/05/22 15:28, Lazypierrot wrote:
>>
>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
>>> delicacy of the mind within.
>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.
>>
>> We are not told why the groom wears black.
>
> The point is we are not told why non-pure ladies wear white during weddings.

How do you know that a lady wearing white is not a virgin?
Is it your f* business at all?

On 2022-05-11 13:10, CDB wrote:
> On 5/11/2022 7:22 AM, charles wrote:
>> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>> Lazypierrot wrote:
>
>>>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity
>>>>> and delicacy of the mind within.
>
>>>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a
>>>> wedding.
>
>>>> We are not told why the groom wears black.
>
>>> White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.
>
>> I went to a funeral yesterday - we were told to wear 'joyful'
>> clothing.
>
> when you gather to mourn
> And you're gladly adorned,
> That's O mores!

https://xkcd.com/1814/

On 2022-05-11 22:11:57 +0000, Silvano said:

> bruce bowser hat am 11.05.2022 um 23:07 geschrieben:
>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> On 06/05/22 15:28, Lazypierrot wrote:
>>>
>>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
>>>> delicacy of the mind within.
>>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.
>>>
>>> We are not told why the groom wears black.
>>
>> The point is we are not told why non-pure ladies wear white during weddings.
>
>
> How do you know that a lady wearing white is not a virgin?
> Is it your f* business at all?

Well, f* is what it's all about.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On Wed, 11 May 2022 23:29:59 -0600
lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2022-05-11 13:10, CDB wrote:
> > On 5/11/2022 7:22 AM, charles wrote:
> >> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Peter Moylan wrote:
> >>>> Lazypierrot wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity
> >>>>> and delicacy of the mind within.
> >
> >>>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a
> >>>> wedding.
> >
> >>>> We are not told why the groom wears black.
> >
> >>> White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.
> >
> >> I went to a funeral yesterday - we were told to wear 'joyful'
> >> clothing.
> >
> > when you gather to mourn
> > And you're gladly adorned,
> > That's O mores!
>
> https://xkcd.com/1814/
>
>
Contrary to my grumpiness about bowsers naked urls, I'm happy with xkcd ones.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 12/05/22 19:26, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2022 23:29:59 -0600 lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca>
> wrote:

>> https://xkcd.com/1814/
>>
> Contrary to my grumpiness about bowsers naked urls, I'm happy with
> xkcd ones.

Likewise. That's because with an xkcd.com link we know in general terms
what we're going to get, whereas with a naked youtube link there seems
to be about an 90% probability that it will lead to something that's
unlikely to interest us.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

In article <t5hcbd$p23$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it
says...
>
> bruce bowser hat am 11.05.2022 um 23:07 geschrieben:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> >> On 06/05/22 15:28, Lazypierrot wrote:
> >>
> >>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> >>> delicacy of the mind within.
> >> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.
> >>
> >> We are not told why the groom wears black.
> >
> > The point is we are not told why non-pure ladies wear white during weddings.
>
>
> How do you know that a lady wearing white is not a virgin?
A hugely swollen belly is often a clue. Or, deploying her offspring as
bridesmaids and pages.

Janet

On 5/11/2022 5:07 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> Peter Moylan wrote:
>> Lazypierrot wrote:

>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity
>>> and delicacy of the mind within.
>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.

>> We are not told why the groom wears black.

> The point is we are not told why non-pure ladies wear white during
> weddings.

Some don't. A relative of mine wore blue (strange what one will
remember - I was seven) because, as I learned later, she and her husband
had set up housekeeping as soon as he returned from the war, and had
married only a year or two later.

CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> writes:
>On 5/11/2022 5:07 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
>>The point is we are not told why non-pure ladies wear white during
>>weddings.
>Some don't. A relative of mine wore blue

Blue! From my logs:

|Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> writes:
|>More to do with the Devil with the the Blue Dress On.
|Web:
||The expression is from the 1920s. It refers to a young
||women you meet in a sweat easy who steals your heart.

, blue babes/girls in different songs:

|Yonder comes my baby all dressed in blue
|Hey baby what you gonna do

,

|You know I met a little girl
|She was all trimmed out in blue

,

|She'll stay in sailor's clothes,
|Her color shall be blue,
|She'll see that seaport town
|Call Canadee-i-o.

.

>(strange what one will remember - I was seven)

An early memory of mine: I was supposed to do something at a
wedding (carry flowers or something), but furiously opposed it.

On 5/12/2022 7:33 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> writes:
>> bruce bowser wrote:

>>> The point is we are not told why non-pure ladies wear white
>>> during weddings.
>> Some don't. A relative of mine wore blue

> Blue! From my logs:

> |Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> writes: |>More to do with the
> Devil with the the Blue Dress On. |Web: ||The expression is from the
> 1920s. It refers to a young ||women you meet in a sweat easy who
> steals your heart.

> , blue babes/girls in different songs:

> |Yonder comes my baby all dressed in blue |Hey baby what you gonna
> do

> |You know I met a little girl |She was all trimmed out in blue

> |She'll stay in sailor's clothes, |Her color shall be blue, |She'll
> see that seaport town |Call Canadee-i-o.

Would it have calmed the atmosphere if I had said her dress was powder-blue?

>> (strange what one will remember - I was seven)

> An early memory of mine: I was supposed to do something at a wedding
> (carry flowers or something), but furiously opposed it.

I was usually an obedient child.

Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

> In article <t5hcbd$p23$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it
> says...
> >
> > bruce bowser hat am 11.05.2022 um 23:07 geschrieben:
> > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > >> On 06/05/22 15:28, Lazypierrot wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity and
> > >>> delicacy of the mind within.
> > >> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a wedding.
> > >>
> > >> We are not told why the groom wears black.
> > >
> > > The point is we are not told why non-pure ladies wear white during
> > > weddings.
> >
> >
> > How do you know that a lady wearing white is not a virgin?
>
> A hugely swollen belly is often a clue. Or, deploying her offspring as
> bridesmaids and pages.

It is possible to do better than that.
Lucrezia Borgia managed to get a legal divorce from the pope
on grounds of being virgo intacta,
while having such a swollen body.

Jan

On 12-May-22 10:26, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2022 23:29:59 -0600
> lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-05-11 13:10, CDB wrote:
>>> On 5/11/2022 7:22 AM, charles wrote:
>>>> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>>>> Lazypierrot wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Usually this cap was white, expressing the conventional purity
>>>>>>> and delicacy of the mind within.
>>>
>>>>>> That is also why the bride traditionally wears white at a
>>>>>> wedding.
>>>
>>>>>> We are not told why the groom wears black.
>>>
>>>>> White for christenings; black for weddings and funerals.
>>>
>>>> I went to a funeral yesterday - we were told to wear 'joyful'
>>>> clothing.
>>>
>>> when you gather to mourn
>>> And you're gladly adorned,
>>> That's O mores!
>>
>> https://xkcd.com/1814/
>>
>>
> Contrary to my grumpiness about bowsers naked urls, I'm happy with xkcd ones.
>
>
I wonder if there is an age cut-off where people don't recognise the
song reference?

--
Sam Plusnet