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by: Raul TW - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 07:25 UTC

On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 12:05:09 AM UTC-7, Raul TW wrote:
>

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-military-deaths-facd75c2311ed7be660342698cf6a409
Published July 9, 2023

BRUSSELS (AP) — Nearly 50,000 Russian men have died in the war in Ukraine, according to the first independent statistical analysis of Russia’s war dead.

Two independent Russian media outlets, Mediazona and Meduza, working with a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University, used Russian government data to shed light on one of Moscow’s closest-held secrets — the true human cost of its invasion of Ukraine.

To do so, they relied on a statistical concept popularized during the COVID-19 pandemic called excess mortality. Drawing on inheritance records and official mortality data, they estimated how many more men under age 50 died between February 2022 and May 2023 than normal.

Neither Moscow nor Kyiv gives timely data on military losses, and each is at pains to amplify the other side’s casualties. Russia has publicly acknowledged the deaths of just over 6,000 soldiers. Reports about military losses have been repressed in Russian media, activists and independent journalists say. Documenting the dead has become an act of defiance; those who do so face harassment and potential criminal charges.

Despite such challenges, Mediazona and the BBC’s Russian Service, working with a network of volunteers, have used social media postings and photographs of cemeteries across Russia to build a database of confirmed war deaths. As of July 7, they had identified 27,423 dead Russian soldiers.

“These are only soldiers who we know by name, and their deaths in each case are verified by multiple sources,” said Dmitry Treshchanin, an editor at Mediazona who helped oversee the investigation. “The estimate we did with Meduza allows us to see the ‘hidden’ deaths, deaths the Russian government is so obsessively and unsuccessfully trying to hide.”

To come up with a more comprehensive tally, journalists from Mediazona and Meduza obtained records of inheritance cases filed with the Russian authorities. Their data from the National Probate Registry contained information about more than 11 million people who died between 2014 and May 2023.

According to their analysis, 25,000 more inheritance cases were opened in 2022 for males aged 15 to 49 than expected. By May 27, 2023, the number of excess cases had shot up to 47,000.

That surge is roughly in line with a May assessment by the White House that more than 20,000 Russians had been killed in Ukraine since December, though lower than U.S. and U.K. intelligence assessments of overall Russian deaths.

In February, the U.K. Ministry of Defense said approximately 40,000 to 60,000 Russians had likely been killed in the war. A leaked assessment from the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency put the number of Russians killed in action in the first year of the war at 35,000 to 43,000.

“Their figures might be accurate, or they might not be,” Treshchanin, the Mediazona editor, said in an email. “Even if they have sources in the Russian Ministry of Defense, its own data could be incomplete. It’s extremely difficult to pull together all of the casualties from the army, Rosgvardia, Akhmat battalion, various private military companies, of which Wagner is the largest, but not the only one. Casualties among inmates, first recruited by Wagner and now by the MoD, are also a very hazy subject, with a lot of potential for manipulation. Statistics could actually give better results.”

Many Russian fatalities - as well as amputations - could have been prevented with better front-line first aid, the U.K. Ministry of Defense said in an intelligence assessment published Monday. Russia has suffered an average of around 400 casualties a day for 17 months, creating a “crisis” in combat medical care that is likely undermining medical services for civilians in border regions near Ukraine, the ministry said.

Independently, Dmitry Kobak, a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University who has published work on excess COVID-19 deaths in Russia, obtained mortality data broken down by age and sex for 2022 from Rosstat, Russia’s official statistics agency.

He found that 24,000 more men under age 50 died in 2022 than expected, a figure that aligns with the analysis of inheritance data.

Asked by the Associated Press on Monday about the Meduza and Mediazona study, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said during a conference call with reporters he wasn’t aware of it as the Kremlin had “stopped monitoring” Meduza. Peskov also refused to comment on the number of deaths mentioned in the study, saying only that “the Defense Ministry gives the numbers, and they’re the only ones who have that prerogative.”

Meduza is an independent Russian media outlet that has been operating in exile for eight years, with headquarters in Riga, Latvia. In April 2021, Russian authorities designated Meduza a “foreign agent,” making it harder to generate advertising income, and in January 2023, the Kremlin banned Meduza as an illegal “undesirable organization.”

Moscow has also labeled independent outlet Mediazona as a “foreign agent” and blocked its website after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>
>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>
>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>
> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.

Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...

>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>>>>>>>>>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>
>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>
>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>
>>> I DO NOT HAVE THE URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>
>> I found it through a third-party site...
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>
>> 2479 total
>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>
> 2482,
> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.

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by: Raul TW - Thu, 20 Jul 2023 08:00 UTC

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:31:11 AM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:

>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>
>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>> to post the statistical sequence.

> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:

Ukraine is claiming that 240,000 Russian soldiers have been killed.
But everyone should be clear that British and U.S. sources have the Russian death toll at less than 50,000.

And given that there is a long history of countries exaggerating the enemy death numbers to suit their purposes, do not really see the point of posting these inflated Ukranian numbers that are not corroborated by any independent sources.

I see no reason not to trust the U.S. intelligence on the Russian deaths, particularly as the U.S. is financing and very closely monitoring this war..

Google:
As of July 20, 2023, the latest U.S. intelligence estimates of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine are between 35,000 and 43,000. This number is based on a variety of sources, including satellite imagery, intercepted communications, and on-the-ground reporting.

245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>
>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>
>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>
> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>>>>>>>>>>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>
>>>> I DO NOT HAVE THE URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>
>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>
>>> 2479 total
>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>
>> 2482,
>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>
> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
> 67 colonels,
> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
> 323 majors,
> 452 captains.
>
> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
> Russian sources).

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Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>
>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>
>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>
>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>
>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>
>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>
> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>
>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>
>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I DO NOT HAVE THE URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>
>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>
>>>> 2482,
>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>
>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>> 67 colonels,
>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>> 323 majors,
>>> 452 captains.
>>>
>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>> Russian sources).
>>
>> 2586 total,
>> 69 colonels,
>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>> 328 majors,
>> 457 captains.
>
> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.

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Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>
>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>
>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>
>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>
>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>
>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/

255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>
>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2482,
>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>
>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>>> 323 majors,
>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>
>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>> Russian sources).
>>>
>>> 2586 total,
>>> 69 colonels,
>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>> 328 majors,
>>> 457 captains.
>>
>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>
> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)

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260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>
>>>> 2586 total,
>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>> 328 majors,
>>>> 457 captains.
>>>
>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>
>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>
> 2668 total,
> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.

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265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>>>
>
> And August 31 to 2751,it gets hard to track...
> I am mainly updating from the Googledoc.
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2586 total,
>>>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>>>> 328 majors,
>>>>>> 457 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>>>
>>>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>>>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>>>
>>> 2668 total,
>>> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.
>>
>> 2713 total,
>> 71 colonels,342 majors,473 captains (no new lieutenant colonels this time).
>
> Now 2753,so 40 more since that update.
> LtCols are up to 176,Majors to 345,Captains to 476.
> Only difference from the graphic update is 2 more Senior Lieutenants(798).

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additions and some of these a year in arrears before being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified),392 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>>>>
>>
>> And August 31 to 2751,it gets hard to track...
>> I am mainly updating from the Googledoc.
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 145 LtCols,279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>>>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2586 total,
>>>>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>>>>> 328 majors,
>>>>>>> 457 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>>>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>>>>
>>>>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>>>>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>>>>
>>>> 2668 total,
>>>> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.
>>>
>>> 2713 total,
>>> 71 colonels,342 majors,473 captains (no new lieutenant colonels this time).
>>
>> Now 2753,so 40 more since that update.
>> LtCols are up to 176,Majors to 345,Captains to 476.
>> Only difference from the graphic update is 2 more Senior Lieutenants(798).
>
> 2756 with 346 majors.

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Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:

>>. . .

>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/

What is the real number thought to be, double?

Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?

I think you mean half?
> Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
> see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?

I am reporting the Ukrainian government numbers for dead Russians,
and the Czech-based @KilledInUkraine group's numbers of identified,
dated deaths of Russian officers.One number is likely high and the
other low compared to reality but I'm preserving the statistical
sequences.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

In article <ueocdr$rck$2@reader2.panix.com>,
Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>
>>>>. . .
>>
>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>
>> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>
>I think you mean half?

If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.

But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
wouldn't lie, would they?

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Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:

>>>>>. . .

>>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/

>>>What is the real number thought to be, double?

>>I think you mean half?

>If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
>real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
>recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
>might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.

>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>wouldn't lie, would they?

I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
invasion by a foreign army?

In article <ueq0da$1fjjq$2@dont-email.me>,
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
....
>>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>>wouldn't lie, would they?
>
>I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>invasion by a foreign army?

I sincerely have no idea where this question is coming from. I'm assuming,
perhaps incorrectly, that it is directed towards me and that you, for some
reason, think I am anti-Ukraine (and anti-US aid to Ukraine).

I'll just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and leave it at
that.

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crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in
TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in
bonuses, and paid no taxes? Yeah, me neither."

Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>...
>>>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>>>wouldn't lie, would they?

>>I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>>invasion by a foreign army?

>I sincerely have no idea where this question is coming from. I'm assuming,
>perhaps incorrectly, that it is directed towards me and that you, for some
>reason, think I am anti-Ukraine (and anti-US aid to Ukraine).

>I'll just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and leave it at
>that.

You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
what I am questioning.

It's a generally held position that defending against an invasion is
expected behavior and that there's nothing controversial about it and
certainly not against international law. It's not just my belief.

Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <ueocdr$rck$2@reader2.panix.com>,
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>. . .
>>>
>>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>>
>>> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>>
>>I think you mean half?
>
> If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
> real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
> recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
> might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.
>
> But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
> wouldn't lie, would they?

They're certainly the good guys,but may have incentive to propagandize
just as the Russians do.
In any case the officer-deaths numbers are as likely to err on the
low side as the total-deaths numbers are to err on the high.
The Ukrainian total-death numbers are released daily (I only post
when a 5,000 multiple is passed) and are presumably current,the
officer-death numbers gleaned from Russian sources can be months
after the fact.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

In article <ueqebu$kav$1@reader2.panix.com>,
Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
....
>> But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>> wouldn't lie, would they?

>They're certainly the good guys,but may have incentive to propagandize
>just as the Russians do.

Exactly. You understood the gist of my post. Well done.

In article <ueqdk0$1ht4b$1@dont-email.me>,
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
....
>You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
>could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
>what I am questioning.

Well, I doubt they are considered the good guys by the Russian
state/military apparatus...

But, yeah, most of the rest of the world does so consider them.

Except for a lot of whackos in the US GOP, of course!

--
2023: The hottest summer of your life (so far...)

2023: (Also) The coolest summer of the rest of your life.

Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>...
>>You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
>>could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
>>what I am questioning.

>Well, I doubt they are considered the good guys by the Russian
>state/military apparatus...

>But, yeah, most of the rest of the world does so consider them.

>Except for a lot of whackos in the US GOP, of course!

Fair enough

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>
>>>. . .
>
>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>
> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>
> Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
> see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?

Russian media are claiming that 33,236 have died,
and officially 234 officers:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/29/7422028/
(The Russian govenrment only admits to something over 6000
but doesn't issue formal reports any more)

The Ukrainians say the number is 277,660:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/29/7421894/

The latest KIU number of Russian officers dead
verified from Russian sources and named is 2,898,
1 2-star general
5 1-star generals
74 colonels
178 lieutenant-colonels
356 majors
497 captains
843 senior lieutenants
515 lieutenants
52 junior lieutenants
144 reserve/retired senior officers
147 reserve/retired junior officers
86 "other rank and unknown rank"

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted, than American losses in Vietnam,though less than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Russians lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>>>>>
>>>> 260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
>>>
>>> 265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
>>
>> 270,000 deaths were reached on day 567:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419575/
>
> 275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/

280,000 deaths were reached on day 589:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/5/7422709/
(a notable slowing of pace)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additions and some of these a year in arrears before being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified),392 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And August 31 to 2751,it gets hard to track...
>>>> I am mainly updating from the Googledoc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 145 LtCols,279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>>>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>>>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>>>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another
>>>>>>>>>> was reclassified),
>>>>>>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>>>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>>>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2586 total,
>>>>>>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>>>>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>>>>>>> 328 majors,
>>>>>>>>> 457 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>>>>>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>>>>>>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2668 total,
>>>>>> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2713 total,
>>>>> 71 colonels,342 majors,473 captains (no new lieutenant colonels this time).
>>>>
>>>> Now 2753,so 40 more since that update.
>>>> LtCols are up to 176,Majors to 345,Captains to 476.
>>>> Only difference from the graphic update is 2 more Senior Lieutenants(798).
>>>
>>> 2756 with 346 majors.
>>
>> 2802 with
>> 73 colonels,177 lt-cols,349 majors,483 captains.
>
> 2857 with
> 74 colonels,178 lt-cols,353 majors,490 captains.

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