On 4/11/2022 7:31 PM, T wrote:
> On 4/11/22 16:09, Red wrote:
>> On 4/11/2022 4:30:18 PM, T wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> And it is having a lot of success.
>>>
>>> And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
>>> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
>>> and cause additional deaths as they did with
>>> Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
>>>
>>> Paxlovid
>>>
>>> https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
>>>
>>>
>>>       Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
>>>       hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
>>>       been given to more than 6,000 patients
>>>       already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
>>>
>>>
>>> And here is some of the science behind it:
>>>
>>> https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ritonavir-boosted-nirmatrelvir--paxlovid-/
>>>
>>>
>>> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nirmatrelvir#section=2D-Structure
>>>
>>>
>>> There are a lot more hits over at pub med.
>>>
>>> -T
>>
>>
>> It's great to have safe choices (in red states).
>>
>> Ivermectin on its way to becoming available without prescription in
>> Tennessee
>>
>> https://www.wsmv.com/2022/04/09/ivermectin-its-way-becoming-available-without-prescription-tennessee/
>
>
>
> Wonderful news!
>
>

I can walk into the farm supply here in Arkansas and buy a tube over
the counter ...
--
Snag
My rights don't end
where your fears begin .

On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:

>
> What kind of sick animal are your that you
> would withhold treatments for sick people
> to score political point?
>

What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven
not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?

Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot
see truth over your idol.

Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.

On 4/11/2022 4:30 PM, T wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> And it is having a lot of success.
>
> And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
> and cause additional deaths as they did with
> Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
>
> Paxlovid
>
> https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
>
>
>      Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
>      hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
>      been given to more than 6,000 patients
>      already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
>
>
> And here is some of the science behind it:
>
> https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ritonavir-boosted-nirmatrelvir--paxlovid-/
>
>
> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nirmatrelvir#section=2D-Structure
>
> There are a lot more hits over at pub med.
>
> -T

Your great revelation about the existence and utility of Paxlovid is way
behind the times. Been around, FDA and CDC approved, for months. Your
comment on Trump not mentioning it is because it didn't exist when he
was in the White House!

On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> And it is having a lot of success.
>
> And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
> and cause additional deaths as they did with
> Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
>
> Paxlovid
>
> https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
>
> Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
> hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
> been given to more than 6,000 patients
> already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
>

The above is from the guy that accuses most of the rest of us here
of having a "narrative". Yet he uses this simple story about a drug the
UK approved for Covid for another Trumptard narrative. And compares
it to ivermectin, where while there were some studies that showed it
worked, most showed it did not and there were no clinical trials that
would lead to approval. If ivermectin is so great and comparable,
why isn't it also approved in the UK? Because of Trump? Good grief.

Here's some breaking news for the oracle of information. Paxlovid was
approved in the United States in December. It's the combination of the
widely reported two new Covid oral drugs. Drugs made by the same
companies that Mr. T claims are part of the evil drug company cabal.

And what else cuts hospital admissions by an even higher amount?
VACCINES, but Mr. T constantly rants against those. That just about
covers this one.

On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 7:10:28 PM UTC-4, Red wrote:
> On 4/11/2022 4:30:18 PM, T wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > And it is having a lot of success.
> >
> > And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
> > Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
> > and cause additional deaths as they did with
> > Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
> >
> > Paxlovid
> >
> > https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
> >
> > Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
> > hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
> > been given to more than 6,000 patients
> > already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
> >
> >
> > And here is some of the science behind it:
> >
> > https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ritonavir-boosted-nirmatrelvir--paxlovid-/
> >
> > https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nirmatrelvir#section=2D-Structure
> >
> > There are a lot more hits over at pub med.
> >
> > -T
> It's great to have safe choices (in red states).
>
> Ivermectin on its way to becoming available without prescription in Tennessee
>
> https://www.wsmv.com/2022/04/09/ivermectin-its-way-becoming-available-without-prescription-tennessee/

Then states like that can't understand why they are the subject of jokes
about being populated with Neanderthals. Why should ivermectin be available
without a prescription? It's a prescription drug that has shown no
effectiveness against Covid and we have new, approved oral drugs
not that are highly effective against Covid. What kind of moron would
take ivermectin, instead of the drugs that have been tested and shown
to work? Me, I'm vaccinated and boosted. If I get Covid, I'm going to get
Paxlovid, not take some cult drug.

On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 8:35:00 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/11/22 16:35, danny burstein wrote:
> > In <rz25K.26824$sMg....@fx06.ams1> Red <r...@conservative.usa> writes:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >> It's great to have safe choices (in red states).
> >
> >> Ivermectin on its way to becoming available without prescription in Tennessee
> >
> > Damn, you're dumb. Instead of paying for Ivemectin
> > how's about just buying a bus ticket to the David
> > Koresh compound and joining them?
> >
> Why are you helping the Fascists?
>
> How many more Placebo Controlled Doubled Blinded
> Clinical Trials do you need before you stop putting
> peoples' lives at risk? Where is your morality?
> What serves "the" Cause is Moral?

You means studies like this, that recently came out:

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/ivermectin-didn-t-curb-covid-19-hospitalizations-in-largest-study-to-date.html

In a trial of nearly 1,400 COVID-19 patients, those who received the antiparasitic drug ivermectin didn't fare better than those who received a placebo, The Wall Street Journal reported March 18.

It's the largest trial yet to evaluate the drug's effect on the coronavirus.. The findings are awaiting publication in a peer-reviewed medical journal and are set to be presented March 18 at a forum sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, Edward Mills, PhD, one of the study's lead researchers, told the Journal.

"There was no indication that ivermectin was clinically useful," Dr. Mills said. He is a professor of health sciences at Canada's McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario.

It was done in Canada. I'm sure you'll just ignore this latest study
like the others that showed ivermectin did not work, accuse them of
being anti-Trump and continue on with your rant. And it's not 2020
anymore either. We have Paxlovid available, it's an oral drug that
has passed testing and actually works. WTF is wrong with you?

On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 10:13:44 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/11/2022 6:12 PM, T wrote:
> > On 4/11/22 14:20, danny burstein wrote:
> >> In <t3234r$kgm$1...@dont-email.me> T <T...@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>> Paxlovid
> >>
> >> damn you're dumb. Paxlovid _is_ readily available
> >> and _routinely_ provided, at least in the more
> >> civilized portions of the US, like, oh, NYC.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Damn you don't read. It is the results that
> > are coming out that I was pointing out.
> Right, but you had to add in some other comments for your own agenda and
> mention the useless worm medication. Half the post was good
> information, the other half your your nutso right wing narrative.
> Just state the facts.

Nice part is that it's Mr. T that always accuses us of having a
narrative when we point out some factual information. Here he
immediately turns the UK use of Paxlovid into his crazy narrative.
Best part is that he embarrassed himself, hoping that it would be
approved and used in the US, that the anti-Trump people would not
block it, when it was approved in December and is already being used.
Then he goes on to rant on about ivermectin, when we have Paxlovid,
that has been tested, works and is approved. What a total meat head.

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 12:34:35 AM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/11/22 19:13, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/11/2022 6:12 PM, T wrote:
> >> On 4/11/22 14:20, danny burstein wrote:
> >>> In <t3234r$kgm$1...@dont-email.me> T <T...@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >>>
> >>> [snip]
> >>>
> >>>> Paxlovid
> >>>
> >>> damn you're dumb. Paxlovid _is_ readily available
> >>> and _routinely_ provided, at least in the more
> >>> civilized portions of the US, like, oh, NYC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Damn you don't read. It is the results that
> >> are coming out that I was pointing out.
> >
> > Right, but you had to add in some other comments for your own agenda and
> > mention the useless worm medication. Half the post was good
> > information, the other half your your nutso right wing narrative.
> > Just state the facts.
> Hi Ed,
>
> I still see you are talking to me.
>
> "useless worm medication"? I see you are still
> swimming in lies. Your are confusing actual
> xcience with political science.
>
> Use of Ivermectin Is Associated With Lower Mortality in Hospitalized
> Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019: The Ivermectin in COVID Nineteen
> Study
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33065103/
>
> Ivermectin treatment was associated with
> lower mortality during treatment of
> COVID-19, especially in patients with
> severe pulmonary involvement.
>
>
> Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin
> in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34375047/
>
> Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized
> controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in
> COVID-19 have found large, statistically
> significant reductions in mortality, time to
> clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.
> Furthermore, results from numerous controlled
> prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced
> risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular
> use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples
> of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading
> to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity
> and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective
> in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
>
> Now, jab or no jab, when you catch Covid, MAKE SUSE you do
> no use any therapy Trump touted. It is better for you
> to die than have Trump be right about ANYTHING.
>
> Or you could just take the stuff and lie about it.
>
> -T

As I have pointed out to you many times now, that meta-analysis
was biased because it included the results from the ivermectin study
that started the big interest in the drug. It was done by a doctor in Egypt
and that study reported extraordinary results, showing remarkable
efficacy. Couple of months later, a med student in the UK read the
study, recognized parts of it that seemed familiar and quickly found
that whole sections had been plagiarized from other studies. That lead
to further investigation, which showed that the data wasn't right either,
eg some patient info showed them receiving ivermectin when they had
already died of Covid before that date. The peer reviewed journal pulled
the study.

But don't let the truth get in the way of your crazy cult narrative.
Danny is right, this is now Jim Jones cult level crazy.

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 12:34:35 AM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/11/22 19:13, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/11/2022 6:12 PM, T wrote:
> >> On 4/11/22 14:20, danny burstein wrote:
> >>> In <t3234r$kgm$1...@dont-email.me> T <T...@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >>>
> >>> [snip]
> >>>
> >>>> Paxlovid
> >>>
> >>> damn you're dumb. Paxlovid _is_ readily available
> >>> and _routinely_ provided, at least in the more
> >>> civilized portions of the US, like, oh, NYC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Damn you don't read. It is the results that
> >> are coming out that I was pointing out.
> >
> > Right, but you had to add in some other comments for your own agenda and
> > mention the useless worm medication. Half the post was good
> > information, the other half your your nutso right wing narrative.
> > Just state the facts.
> Hi Ed,
>
> I still see you are talking to me.
>
> "useless worm medication"? I see you are still
> swimming in lies. Your are confusing actual
> xcience with political science.
>
> Use of Ivermectin Is Associated With Lower Mortality in Hospitalized
> Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019: The Ivermectin in COVID Nineteen
> Study
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33065103/
>
> Ivermectin treatment was associated with
> lower mortality during treatment of
> COVID-19, especially in patients with
> severe pulmonary involvement.
>
>
> Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin
> in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34375047/
>
> Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized
> controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in
> COVID-19 have found large, statistically
> significant reductions in mortality, time to
> clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.
> Furthermore, results from numerous controlled
> prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced
> risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular
> use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples
> of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading
> to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity
> and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective
> in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
>
> Now, jab or no jab, when you catch Covid, MAKE SUSE you do
> no use any therapy Trump touted. It is better for you
> to die than have Trump be right about ANYTHING.
>
> Or you could just take the stuff and lie about it.
>
> -T

If it's all about people refusing anything that Trump had to do with,
why are the libs and others that despise Trump mostly vaccinated?
And why is it that people in the red states are behind in vaccination
rates compared to the blue states? Why do you ignore the fact that
even Trump has finally endorsed the vaccines, the ones that he tried
to take credit for creating?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/04/23/its-a-real-lifesaver-trump-gives-strongest-endorsement-of-covid-19-vaccines-yet/?sh=f127b7d4cf6a

In his first public media effort dedicated solely to endorsing the vaccine, Trump said he’s “all in favor” of the shot, adding it’s a “great thing” that people “should take advantage of.”

The former president has endorsed the vaccine several times—he advocated for the shot during two separate interviews with Fox News and once during a Conservative Political Action Conference speech in February—but this marks the first time he has given an interview focused specifically on encouraging Americans to get immunized.

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 1:42:12 AM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/11/22 19:19, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/11/2022 7:09 PM, Red wrote:
> >> On 4/11/2022 4:30:18 PM, T wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> And it is having a lot of success.
> >>>
> >>> And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
> >>> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
> >>> and cause additional deaths as they did with
> >>> Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
> >>>
> >>> Paxlovid
> >>>
> >>> https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
> >>> hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
> >>> been given to more than 6,000 patients
> >>> already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And here is some of the science behind it:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ritonavir-boosted-nirmatrelvir--paxlovid-/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nirmatrelvir#section=2D-Structure
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There are a lot more hits over at pub med.
> >>>
> >>> -T
> >>
> >>
> >> It's great to have safe choices (in red states).
> >>
> >> Ivermectin on its way to becoming available without prescription in
> >> Tennessee
> >>
> >> https://www.wsmv.com/2022/04/09/ivermectin-its-way-becoming-available-without-prescription-tennessee/
> >>
> >
> > Ivermectin is good stuff. None of the Covid patients that used it
> > became infected with worms.
> >
> > Works on colds too. People with colds often have symptoms for two weeks
> > but taking Ivermectin they are gone in only 14 days.
> Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin
> in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34375047/
>
> Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized
> controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in
> COVID-19 have found large, statistically
> significant reductions in mortality, time to
> clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.
> Furthermore, results from numerous controlled
> prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced
> risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular
> use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples
> of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading
> to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity
> and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective
> in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
> EITHTEEN Randomized controlled treatment trials of
> ivermectin proves it works.
>
> What kind of sick animal are your that you
> would withhold treatments for sick people
> to score political point?

You keep leaving out the part that the above meta analsis, which
isn't anything like a clinical trial, included data from the study that
started the ivermectin interest. It was done in Egypt, showed huge
positive results. Few months later a UK med student showed that
sections of it had been plagiarized from other studies. Further investigation
revealed problems with the actual data too, eg patients that were dead
at the time the study claimed they were being treated. That one study
skewed the results. And the meta study was done long ago, more actual
clinical studies since have show it doesn't work. Like this:

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/ivermectin-didn-t-curb-covid-19-hospitalizations-in-largest-study-to-date.html

Ivermectin didn't curb COVID-19 hospitalizations in largest study to date

You come here spewing forth about science and the scientific method,
yet you just cherry pick studies and ignore all the ones that show ivermectin
doesn't work. And there are more of those than the ones that show some
effectiveness. It's not 2020 anymore. We have oral drugs now that have
been tested and shown to work. If anyone is killing people, it's you, by
continuing your BS, leading people away from what doesn't work to some
drug hyped up by a crazed cult.

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 8:35:19 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>
> >
> > What kind of sick animal are your that you
> > would withhold treatments for sick people
> > to score political point?
> >
> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven
> not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
>
> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot
> see truth over your idol.
>
> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.

Exactly. It's not 2020 anymore, we have safe, effective oral drugs that
work against Covid. It's people like Mr. T that are still killing people by
promoting ivermectin and similar that don't work. He cherry picks studies,
only uses the ones that show what he wants, ignores the larger number that
show ivermectin does not work. Yet he lectures us about "the scientific
method".

On 4/12/22 05:18, Snag wrote:
> On 4/11/2022 11:34 PM, T wrote:
>> On 4/11/22 19:13, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2022 6:12 PM, T wrote:
>>>> On 4/11/22 14:20, danny burstein wrote:
>>>>> In <t3234r$kgm$1@dont-email.me> T <T@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>> Paxlovid
>>>>>
>>>>> damn you're dumb.  Paxlovid _is_ readily available
>>>>> and _routinely_ provided, at least in the more
>>>>> civilized portions of the US, like, oh, NYC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Damn you don't read.  It is the results that
>>>> are coming out that I was pointing out.
>>>
>>> Right, but you had to add in some other comments for your own agenda
>>> and mention the useless worm medication.  Half the post was good
>>> information, the other half your your nutso right wing narrative.
>>> Just state the facts.
>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> I still see you are talking to me.
>>
>> "useless worm medication"? I see you are still
>> swimming in lies.  Your are confusing actual
>> xcience with political science.
>>
>> Use of Ivermectin Is Associated With Lower Mortality in Hospitalized
>> Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019: The Ivermectin in COVID
>> Nineteen Study
>>
>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33065103/
>>
>>        Ivermectin treatment was associated with
>>        lower mortality during treatment of
>>        COVID-19, especially in patients with
>>        severe pulmonary involvement.
>>
>>
>> Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of
>> Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
>>
>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34375047/
>>
>>        Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized
>>        controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in
>>        COVID-19 have found large, statistically
>>        significant reductions in mortality, time to
>>        clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.
>>        Furthermore, results from numerous controlled
>>        prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced
>>        risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular
>>        use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples
>>        of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading
>>        to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity
>>        and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective
>>        in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
>>
>> Now, jab or no jab, when you catch Covid, MAKE SUSE you do
>> no use any therapy Trump touted.  It is better for you
>> to die than have Trump be right about ANYTHING.
>>
>> Or you could just take the stuff and lie about it.
>>
>> -T
>
> You mean like a lot of our congress-critters and other high gov't
> officials did ? "Cures for me but not for thee."

That anyone would deny medical treatment to anyone for political
purposes FRIES ME!
<sarcasm>
Gee Wiz, I wonder who the biggest $$$ lobbiest to
congress is?? Oh No, Never Gib Pharma. CAN'T BE!!!
</sarcasm>

On 4/12/22 05:25, Snag wrote:
> On 4/11/2022 7:31 PM, T wrote:
>> On 4/11/22 16:09, Red wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2022 4:30:18 PM, T wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> And it is having a lot of success.
>>>>
>>>> And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
>>>> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
>>>> and cause additional deaths as they did with
>>>> Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
>>>>
>>>> Paxlovid
>>>>
>>>> https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
>>>>       hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
>>>>       been given to more than 6,000 patients
>>>>       already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And here is some of the science behind it:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ritonavir-boosted-nirmatrelvir--paxlovid-/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nirmatrelvir#section=2D-Structure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are a lot more hits over at pub med.
>>>>
>>>> -T
>>>
>>>
>>> It's great to have safe choices (in red states).
>>>
>>> Ivermectin on its way to becoming available without prescription in
>>> Tennessee
>>>
>>> https://www.wsmv.com/2022/04/09/ivermectin-its-way-becoming-available-without-prescription-tennessee/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wonderful news!
>>
>>
>
>   I can walk into the farm supply here in Arkansas and buy a tube over
> the counter ...
Oh and what American Pravda won't tell you is
that that tube comes with a nauseant to make
sure you don't accidentally overdose the
critter. Too much and they puke.
It is probably best to work with a (competent)
allopath if using this or any other drug.
The same drugs are certainly FAR cheaper at the
farm supply store. See if you can get him to let
you get the stuff from them.

On 4/12/22 05:35, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>
>>
>> What kind of sick animal are your that you
>> would withhold treatments for sick people
>> to score political point?
>>
>
> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven
> not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
>
> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot
> see truth over your idol.
>
> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.

YOU LYING BASTARD! E-I-G-H-T-E-E-N double blinded
studies and counting prove it. THERE IS NOT DOUBT
IT WORKS.

WHERE IS YOUR MORTALITY? Politics all that matter
to you? Screw human life??

Make 1984 FICTION AGAIN
LGB

On 4/12/22 01:42, micky wrote:

> I have a friend, 78yo or more, who was getting tested once or twice a
> week. She finally tested positive, doesn't know where she got it.
>
> She's not in the US. The testing place notified her doctor who called
> her and prescribed Paxlovid. Three pills in the morning and 3 in the
> evening. She also was quarantined and in practice couldn't leave the
> house for a week. Had mild to moderate symptoms for 3 days, I forget
> what they were. She feels fine now about 2 or 3 weeks later. Said
> Paxlovid wasnt available 6 months ago.

Best of luck to your friend

On 4/12/22 06:57, Retirednoguilt wrote:
> On 4/11/2022 4:30 PM, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> And it is having a lot of success.
>>
>> And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
>> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
>> and cause additional deaths as they did with
>> Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
>>
>> Paxlovid
>>
>> https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
>>
>>
>>       Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
>>       hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
>>       been given to more than 6,000 patients
>>       already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
>>
>>
>> And here is some of the science behind it:
>>
>> https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ritonavir-boosted-nirmatrelvir--paxlovid-/
>>
>>
>> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nirmatrelvir#section=2D-Structure
>>
>>
>> There are a lot more hits over at pub med.
>>
>> -T
>
> Your great revelation about the existence and utility of Paxlovid is way
> behind the times.  Been around, FDA and CDC approved, for months.  Your
> comment on Trump not mentioning it is because it didn't exist when he
> was in the White House!
My "great revelation" was the effectiveness numbers
coming out on it in the UK.
And good news about Trump not mentioning it
becasue he was not in the white house or the
Leftist Fascists would be pulling the same
crap they are pulling on Ivermectin at the
cost of how many lives?
That anyone would attempt to withhold
treatments to anyone in trouble for
political purposed FRIES ME!

On 4/12/22 03:36, Red wrote:
> On 4/11/2022 7:35:07 PM, danny burstein wrote:
>> In <rz25K.26824$sMg.1415@fx06.ams1> Red <red@conservative.usa> writes:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> It's great to have safe choices (in red states).
>>
>>> Ivermectin on its way to becoming available without prescription in
>>> Tennessee
>>
>> Damn, you're dumb.  Instead of paying for Ivemectin
>> how's about just buying a bus ticket to the David
>> Koresh compound and joining them?
>>
>
>
> And you should go get your booster shot-of-the-month to show your
> support for your wealthy overlords.
> I'm not sure a guy could retire on 42 million so maybe you could start a
> go-fund-me page for Meline?
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2022/04/11/moderna-finance-chief-steps-down-after-two-years-but-lands-deal-for-42-million-stock-options/
>

Follow the money.
Make 1984 fiction again
LGB

On 4/12/22 01:45, micky wrote:
>> " hopefully the
>> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it"

> By Leftist he means people smart enough to not believe trump's lies and
> not dumb enough to use his pseudo medical advice.

By Leftist Conformist Fascists I mean those
BASTARDS that refuse to believe E-I-G-H-T-E-E-N
and counting placebo controlled double blinded
randomized clinical trial that PROVE beyond
any douabt that Ivermectin works. AND FOR
POLITICAL PURPOSES DENY FOLKS IN TROUBLE
TREATMENT. AND THESE BASTARDS CLAIM THEY ARE
"SCIENCE".

Sound like anyone you know?

Make 1984 fiction again
LGB

On 4/12/2022 10:48:11 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 8:35:19 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What kind of sick animal are your that you
>>> would withhold treatments for sick people
>>> to score political point?
>>>
>> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven
>> not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
>>
>> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot
>> see truth over your idol.
>>
>> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.
>
> Exactly. It's not 2020 anymore, we have safe, effective oral drugs that
> work against Covid. It's people like Mr. T that are still killing people by
> promoting ivermectin and similar that don't work. He cherry picks studies,
> only uses the ones that show what he wants, ignores the larger number that
> show ivermectin does not work. Yet he lectures us about "the scientific
> method".

If we have safe effective oral drugs, why are we putting people at risk of severe injury and/or death with the experimental clot-shots?
And remember, the clot-shots don't stop you from spreading, they don't stop you from getting and the dubious claim that it reduces the severity of infection is probably a lie too.

Pfizer Tries To Hide 2.4K Full-Time Hires Handling Vax Injuries

https://www.oann.com/pfizer-tries-to-hide-2-4k-full-time-hires-handling-vax-injuries/

On 4/12/22 05:14, Snag wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 6:18 AM, Karen wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 4:45:46 AM, micky wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> By Leftist he means people smart enough to not believe trump's lies and
>>> not dumb enough to use his pseudo medical advice.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You Cannot Boost Your Way Through COVID
>>
>> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
>>
>
>   Oh let the silly assholes have their boosters . The rest of us are
> better off without them anyway .
Ya, especially now that Covid is preferring those
with the jabs. But it is far more important to
them to be members of the Volksgenossen.
I shocked a Leftist a couple of months back
when he said the government and their institutions
(CDC, etc.) would not lie to us. I told him
the government lies all the time. He was
scandalized.

On 4/12/22 22:17, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 10:48:11 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 8:35:19 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What kind of sick animal are your that you
>>>> would withhold treatments for sick people
>>>> to score political point?
>>>>
>>> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven
>>> not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
>>>
>>> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot
>>> see truth over your idol.
>>>
>>> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.
>>
>> Exactly.  It's not 2020 anymore, we have safe, effective oral drugs that
>> work against Covid.   It's people like Mr. T that are still killing
>> people by
>> promoting ivermectin and similar that don't work.   He cherry picks
>> studies,
>> only uses the ones that show what he wants, ignores the larger number
>> that
>> show ivermectin does not work.  Yet he lectures us about "the scientific
>> method".
>
>
>
> If we have safe effective oral drugs, why are we putting people at risk
> of severe injury and/or death with the experimental clot-shots?
> And remember, the clot-shots don't stop you from spreading, they don't
> stop you from getting and the dubious claim that it reduces the severity
> of infection is probably a lie too.
>
>
> Pfizer Tries To Hide 2.4K Full-Time Hires Handling Vax Injuries
>
> https://www.oann.com/pfizer-tries-to-hide-2-4k-full-time-hires-handling-vax-injuries/
It is about politics. Trump has to be wrong, no matter
how many people are hurt. It is about conformity
and being members of the Volksgenossen. No care
whatsoever about human suffering. Just about
their own power.
I'd better shut up for a while or I am going start
throwing around the bastard word again.

On 4/12/2022 10:36:56 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> If it's all about people refusing anything that Trump had to do with,
> why are the libs and others that despise Trump mostly vaccinated?
> And why is it that people in the red states are behind in vaccination
> rates compared to the blue states? Why do you ignore the fact that
> even Trump has finally endorsed the vaccines, the ones that he tried
> to take credit for creating?

I've not taken the clot-shots. Borla still gets paid whether I take them or not so why risk myocarditis?

I vaguely remember sneezing once or twice in the last two years but
other than that, I'm doing fine.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx

On 4/12/2022 11:59 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 10:36:56 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>> If it's all about people refusing anything that Trump had to do with,
>> why are the libs and others that despise Trump mostly vaccinated?
>> And why is it that people in the red states are behind in vaccination
>> rates compared to the blue states?   Why do you ignore the fact that
>> even Trump has finally endorsed the vaccines, the ones that he tried
>> to take credit for creating?
>
>
> I've not taken the clot-shots. Borla still gets paid whether I take them
> or not so why risk myocarditis?
>
> I vaguely remember sneezing once or twice in the last two years but
> other than that, I'm doing fine.
>
>
> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
>

But your covid brain fog is clearly evident.

On 4/12/2022 5:52 PM, T wrote:
> On 4/12/22 05:35, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What kind of sick animal are your that you
>>> would withhold treatments for sick people
>>> to score political point?
>>>
>>
>> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven
>> not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
>>
>> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that
>> cannot see truth over your idol.
>>
>> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.
>
> YOU LYING BASTARD!  E-I-G-H-T-E-E-N double blinded
> studies and counting prove it.  THERE IS NOT DOUBT
> IT WORKS.
>
> WHERE IS YOUR MORTALITY?  Politics all that matter
> to you?  Screw human life??
>
> Make 1984 FICTION AGAIN
> LGB

Your god you worship suggested bleach injections. I'd try that.

On 4/12/2022 8:49:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 5:52 PM, T wrote:
>> On 4/12/22 05:35, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What kind of sick animal are your that you
>>>> would withhold treatments for sick people
>>>> to score political point?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
>>>
>>> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot see truth over your idol.
>>>
>>> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.
>>
>> YOU LYING BASTARD!  E-I-G-H-T-E-E-N double blinded
>> studies and counting prove it.  THERE IS NOT DOUBT
>> IT WORKS.
>>
>> WHERE IS YOUR MORTALITY?  Politics all that matter
>> to you?  Screw human life??
>>
>> Make 1984 FICTION AGAIN
>> LGB
>
> Your god you worship suggested bleach injections.  I'd try that.

We inject bleach into our municipal water systems.

And injecting bleach is not that different from injecting chemotherapy chemicals.

It's a moot point though. If bleach actually worked, the vaccine company's government puppets would block it.