I have lost count of how many times recently I have to had to explain the
meaning of the English term “straw man” to my European allies. That is
because the best living, breathing “straw man” at the moment is the
Kremlin’s claim to be under threat from NATO. In recent weeks the Russian
Defence Minister’s comment that the US is “preparing a provocation with
chemical components in eastern Ukraine” has made that “straw man” even
bigger.

It is obviously the Kremlin’s desire that we all engage with this bogus
allegation, instead of challenging the real agenda of the President of the
Russian Federation. An examination of the facts rapidly puts a match to
the allegations against NATO.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/an-article-by-the-defence-secretary-on-the-situation-in-ukraine

First, NATO is, to its core, defensive in nature. At the heart of the
organisation is Article 5 that obliges all members to come to the aid of a
fellow member if it is under attack. No ifs and no buts. Mutual
self-defence is NATO’s cornerstone. This obligation protects us all.
Allies from as far apart as Turkey and Norway; or as close as Latvia and
Poland all benefit from the pact and are obliged to respond. It is a truly
defensive alliance.

Second, former Soviet states have not been expanded ‘into’ by NATO, but
joined at their own request. The Kremlin attempts to present NATO as a
Western plot to encroach upon its territory, but in reality the growth in
Alliance membership is the natural response of those states to its own
malign activities and threats.

Third, the allegation that NATO is seeking to encircle the Russian
Federation is without foundation. Only five of the thirty allies neighbour
Russia, with just 1/16th of its borders abutted by NATO. If the definition
of being surrounded is 6% of your perimeter being blocked then no doubt
the brave men who fought at Arnhem or Leningrad in the Second World War
would have something strong to say about it.

It is not the disposition of NATO forces but the appeal of its values that
actually threatens the Kremlin. Just as we know that its actions are
really about what President Putin’s interpretation of history is and his
unfinished ambitions for Ukraine.

We know that because last summer he published, via the official Government
website, his own article “On the Historical Unity of Russians and
Ukrainians”. I urge you to read it, if you have time, because while it is
comprehensive on his arguments it is short on accuracy and long on
contradictions.

We should all worry because what flows from the pen of President Putin
himself is a seven-thousand-word essay that puts ethnonationalism at the
heart of his ambitions. Not the narrative now being peddled. Not the straw
man of NATO encroachment. It provides the skewed and selective reasoning
to justify, at best, the subjugation of Ukraine and at worse the forced
unification of that sovereign country.

President Putin’s article completely ignores the wishes of the citizens of
Ukraine, while evoking that same type of ethnonationalism which played out
across Europe for centuries and still has the potential to awaken the same
destructive forces of ancient hatred. Readers will not only be shocked at
the tone of the article but they will also be surprised at how little NATO
is mentioned. After all, is NATO ‘expansionism’ not the fountain of all
the Kremlin’s concerns? In fact, just a single paragraph is devoted to
NATO.

The essay makes in it three claims. One: that the West seeks to use
division to “rule” Russia. Two: that anything other than a single nation
of Great Russia, Little Russia and White Russia (Velikorussians,
Malorussians, Belorussians) in the image advanced in the 17th Century is
an artificial construct and defies the desires of a single people, with a
single language and church. Third, that anyone who disagrees does so out
of a hatred or phobia of Russia.

We can dispense with the first allegation. No one wants to rule Russia. It
is stating the obvious that just like any other state it is for the
citizens of a country to determine their own future. Russia’s own lessons
from such conflicts as Chechnya must surely be that ethnic and sectarian
conflicts cost thousands of innocent lives with the protagonists getting
bogged down in decades of strife.

As for Ukraine, Russia itself recognised the sovereignty of it as an
independent country and guaranteed its territorial integrity, not just by
signing the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 but also its Friendship Treaty
with Ukraine itself in 1997. Yet it is the Kremlin not the West that set
about magnifying divisions in that country and several others in the
Europe. It has been well documented the numerous efforts of the GRU and
other Russian agencies to interfere in democratic elections and domestic
disputes is well documented. The divide and rule cap sits prettiest on
Moscow’s head not NATO’s.

Probably the most important and strongly believed claim that Ukraine is
Russia and Russia is Ukraine is not quite as presented. Ukraine has been
separate from Russia for far longer in its history than it was ever
united. Secondly the charge that all peoples in Belarus, Russia and
Ukraine are descendants of the ‘Ancient Rus’ and are therefore somehow all
Russians. But in reality, according to historian Professor Andrew Wilson
in his excellent essay for RUSI entitled “Russia and Ukraine: ‘One People’
as Putin Claims?” they are at best “kin but not the same people”. In the
same way Britain around 900AD consisted of Mercia, Wessex, York,
Strathclyde and other pre-modern kingdoms, but it was a civic nation of
many peoples, origins and ethnicities that eventually formed the United
Kingdom.

If you start and stop your view of Russian history between 1654 and 1917
then you can fabricate a case for a more expansive Russia, perhaps along
the lines of the motto of the Russian Tsar before the Russian Empire
“Sovereign of all of Rus: the Great, the Little, and the White” – Russia,
Ukraine and Belarus respectively. And crucially you must also forget the
before and after in history. You must ignore the existence of the Soviet
Union, breaking of the Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty, and the
occupation of Crimea. Far more than footnotes in history, I am sure you
will agree.

Ironically, President Putin himself admits in his essay that “things
change: countries and communities are no exception. Of course, some part
of a people in the process of its development, influenced by a number of
reasons and historical circumstances, can become aware of itself as a
separate nation at a certain moment. How should we treat that? There is
only one answer: with respect!” However, he then goes on to discard some
of those “historical circumstances” to fit his own claims.

Dubious to say the least, and not in anyway a perspective that justifies
both the occupation of Crimea (in the same way Russia occupied Crimea in
1783 in defiance of the Russo-Turkish Treaty of Kuchuk-Kainarji in 1774)
or any further invasion of modern Ukraine, as an independent sovereign
country.

The last charge against the West by many in the Russian Government is that
those who disagree with the Kremlin are somehow Russophobes. Leaving aside
that GRU officers deployed nerve agents on British streets or that cyber
hacking and targeted assassinations emanate from the Russian state,
nothing could be further than the truth.

Russia and the UK share a deep and often mutually beneficial history. Our
allegiances helped to finally defeat Napoleon and later Hitler. Outside of
conflict, across the centuries we shared technology, medicine and culture.
During the 18th Century Russia and Britain were deeply tied. Between 1704
to 1854, from age of Peter the Great through Catherine the Great and well
into the 19th Century the British were to be found as admirals, generals,
surgeons, and architects at the highest level of the Russian Court. The
father of the Russian Navy – one Samuel Greig – was born in Inverkeithing
in Fife.

That shared admiration is still true today. The British Government is not
in dispute with Russia and the Russian people – far from it – but it does
take issue with the malign activity of the Kremlin.

So, if one cold January or February night Russian Military forces once
more cross into sovereign Ukraine, ignore the ‘straw man’ narratives and
‘false flag’ stories of NATO aggression and remember the President of
Russia’s own words in that essay from last summer. Remember it and ask
yourself what it means, not just for Ukraine, but for all of us in Europe.
What it means the next time…

### - this apparently being the now 'official' stance of the uk in the
matter which was quietly published yesterday... something which no doubt
justifies the uk gov sending advanced anti-tank weapons (and presumably
the troops to operate them) to ukraine...

it only remaining to be seen then WHICH side calls-out the 'false-flag'
trigger-event first? (the: look what they've done! look what they've done!
type-scenario etc etc, that kicks-off an offensive)

On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 8:40:00 PM UTC-5, slider wrote:
> I have lost count of how many times recently I have to had to explain the
> meaning of the English term “straw man” to my European allies. That is
> because the best living, breathing “straw man” at the moment is the
> Kremlin’s claim to be under threat from NATO. In recent weeks the Russian
> Defence Minister’s comment that the US is “preparing a provocation with
> chemical components in eastern Ukraine” has made that “straw man” even
> bigger.
>
> It is obviously the Kremlin’s desire that we all engage with this bogus
> allegation, instead of challenging the real agenda of the President of the
> Russian Federation. An examination of the facts rapidly puts a match to
> the allegations against NATO.
>
> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/an-article-by-the-defence-secretary-on-the-situation-in-ukraine
>
> First, NATO is, to its core, defensive in nature. At the heart of the
> organisation is Article 5 that obliges all members to come to the aid of a
> fellow member if it is under attack. No ifs and no buts. Mutual
> self-defence is NATO’s cornerstone. This obligation protects us all.
> Allies from as far apart as Turkey and Norway; or as close as Latvia and
> Poland all benefit from the pact and are obliged to respond. It is a truly
> defensive alliance.
>
> Second, former Soviet states have not been expanded ‘into’ by NATO, but
> joined at their own request. The Kremlin attempts to present NATO as a
> Western plot to encroach upon its territory, but in reality the growth in
> Alliance membership is the natural response of those states to its own
> malign activities and threats.
>
> Third, the allegation that NATO is seeking to encircle the Russian
> Federation is without foundation. Only five of the thirty allies neighbour
> Russia, with just 1/16th of its borders abutted by NATO. If the definition
> of being surrounded is 6% of your perimeter being blocked then no doubt
> the brave men who fought at Arnhem or Leningrad in the Second World War
> would have something strong to say about it.
>
> It is not the disposition of NATO forces but the appeal of its values that
> actually threatens the Kremlin. Just as we know that its actions are
> really about what President Putin’s interpretation of history is and his
> unfinished ambitions for Ukraine.
>
> We know that because last summer he published, via the official Government
> website, his own article “On the Historical Unity of Russians and
> Ukrainians”. I urge you to read it, if you have time, because while it is
> comprehensive on his arguments it is short on accuracy and long on
> contradictions.
>
> We should all worry because what flows from the pen of President Putin
> himself is a seven-thousand-word essay that puts ethnonationalism at the
> heart of his ambitions. Not the narrative now being peddled. Not the straw
> man of NATO encroachment. It provides the skewed and selective reasoning
> to justify, at best, the subjugation of Ukraine and at worse the forced
> unification of that sovereign country.
>
> President Putin’s article completely ignores the wishes of the citizens of
> Ukraine, while evoking that same type of ethnonationalism which played out
> across Europe for centuries and still has the potential to awaken the same
> destructive forces of ancient hatred. Readers will not only be shocked at
> the tone of the article but they will also be surprised at how little NATO
> is mentioned. After all, is NATO ‘expansionism’ not the fountain of all
> the Kremlin’s concerns? In fact, just a single paragraph is devoted to
> NATO.
>
> The essay makes in it three claims. One: that the West seeks to use
> division to “rule” Russia. Two: that anything other than a single nation
> of Great Russia, Little Russia and White Russia (Velikorussians,
> Malorussians, Belorussians) in the image advanced in the 17th Century is
> an artificial construct and defies the desires of a single people, with a
> single language and church. Third, that anyone who disagrees does so out
> of a hatred or phobia of Russia.
>
> We can dispense with the first allegation. No one wants to rule Russia. It
> is stating the obvious that just like any other state it is for the
> citizens of a country to determine their own future. Russia’s own lessons
> from such conflicts as Chechnya must surely be that ethnic and sectarian
> conflicts cost thousands of innocent lives with the protagonists getting
> bogged down in decades of strife.
>
> As for Ukraine, Russia itself recognised the sovereignty of it as an
> independent country and guaranteed its territorial integrity, not just by
> signing the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 but also its Friendship Treaty
> with Ukraine itself in 1997. Yet it is the Kremlin not the West that set
> about magnifying divisions in that country and several others in the
> Europe. It has been well documented the numerous efforts of the GRU and
> other Russian agencies to interfere in democratic elections and domestic
> disputes is well documented. The divide and rule cap sits prettiest on
> Moscow’s head not NATO’s.
>
> Probably the most important and strongly believed claim that Ukraine is
> Russia and Russia is Ukraine is not quite as presented. Ukraine has been
> separate from Russia for far longer in its history than it was ever
> united. Secondly the charge that all peoples in Belarus, Russia and
> Ukraine are descendants of the ‘Ancient Rus’ and are therefore somehow all
> Russians. But in reality, according to historian Professor Andrew Wilson
> in his excellent essay for RUSI entitled “Russia and Ukraine: ‘One People’
> as Putin Claims?” they are at best “kin but not the same people”. In the
> same way Britain around 900AD consisted of Mercia, Wessex, York,
> Strathclyde and other pre-modern kingdoms, but it was a civic nation of
> many peoples, origins and ethnicities that eventually formed the United
> Kingdom.
>
> If you start and stop your view of Russian history between 1654 and 1917
> then you can fabricate a case for a more expansive Russia, perhaps along
> the lines of the motto of the Russian Tsar before the Russian Empire
> “Sovereign of all of Rus: the Great, the Little, and the White” – Russia,
> Ukraine and Belarus respectively. And crucially you must also forget the
> before and after in history. You must ignore the existence of the Soviet
> Union, breaking of the Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty, and the
> occupation of Crimea. Far more than footnotes in history, I am sure you
> will agree.
>
> Ironically, President Putin himself admits in his essay that “things
> change: countries and communities are no exception. Of course, some part
> of a people in the process of its development, influenced by a number of
> reasons and historical circumstances, can become aware of itself as a
> separate nation at a certain moment. How should we treat that? There is
> only one answer: with respect!” However, he then goes on to discard some
> of those “historical circumstances” to fit his own claims..
>
> Dubious to say the least, and not in anyway a perspective that justifies
> both the occupation of Crimea (in the same way Russia occupied Crimea in
> 1783 in defiance of the Russo-Turkish Treaty of Kuchuk-Kainarji in 1774)
> or any further invasion of modern Ukraine, as an independent sovereign
> country.
>
> The last charge against the West by many in the Russian Government is that
> those who disagree with the Kremlin are somehow Russophobes. Leaving aside
> that GRU officers deployed nerve agents on British streets or that cyber
> hacking and targeted assassinations emanate from the Russian state,
> nothing could be further than the truth.
>
> Russia and the UK share a deep and often mutually beneficial history. Our
> allegiances helped to finally defeat Napoleon and later Hitler. Outside of
> conflict, across the centuries we shared technology, medicine and culture..
> During the 18th Century Russia and Britain were deeply tied. Between 1704
> to 1854, from age of Peter the Great through Catherine the Great and well
> into the 19th Century the British were to be found as admirals, generals,
> surgeons, and architects at the highest level of the Russian Court. The
> father of the Russian Navy – one Samuel Greig – was born in Inverkeithing
> in Fife.
>
> That shared admiration is still true today. The British Government is not
> in dispute with Russia and the Russian people – far from it – but it does
> take issue with the malign activity of the Kremlin.
>
> So, if one cold January or February night Russian Military forces once
> more cross into sovereign Ukraine, ignore the ‘straw man’ narratives and
> ‘false flag’ stories of NATO aggression and remember the President of
> Russia’s own words in that essay from last summer. Remember it and ask
> yourself what it means, not just for Ukraine, but for all of us in Europe..
> What it means the next time…
>
> ### - this apparently being the now 'official' stance of the uk in the
> matter which was quietly published yesterday... something which no doubt
> justifies the uk gov sending advanced anti-tank weapons (and presumably
> the troops to operate them) to ukraine...
>
> it only remaining to be seen then WHICH side calls-out the 'false-flag'
> trigger-event first? (the: look what they've done! look what they've done!
> type-scenario etc etc, that kicks-off an offensive)
>
> there currently being some chatter re it possibly being about a
> chemical-attack of some description or another, hmm...
>
> better place yer' bets then!
>
> coz they obviously AIN'T gonna leave this shit alone until it ALL boils
> over?
>
> (imho, covid has obviously driven them all even MORE insane than they were
> before!)

This is a good bit, with a Neo-Con getting schooled.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1481099915308769281

On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 7:40:00 PM UTC-6, slider wrote:
> I have lost count of how many times recently I have to had to explain the
> meaning of the English term “straw man” to my European allies. That is
> because the best living, breathing “straw man” at the moment is the
> Kremlin’s claim to be under threat from NATO. In recent weeks the Russian
> Defence Minister’s comment that the US is “preparing a provocation with
> chemical components in eastern Ukraine” has made that “straw man” even
> bigger.
>
> It is obviously the Kremlin’s desire that we all engage with this bogus
> allegation, instead of challenging the real agenda of the President of the
> Russian Federation. An examination of the facts rapidly puts a match to
> the allegations against NATO.
>
> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/an-article-by-the-defence-secretary-on-the-situation-in-ukraine
>
> First, NATO is, to its core, defensive in nature. At the heart of the
> organisation is Article 5 that obliges all members to come to the aid of a
> fellow member if it is under attack. No ifs and no buts. Mutual
> self-defence is NATO’s cornerstone. This obligation protects us all.
> Allies from as far apart as Turkey and Norway; or as close as Latvia and
> Poland all benefit from the pact and are obliged to respond. It is a truly
> defensive alliance.
>
> Second, former Soviet states have not been expanded ‘into’ by NATO, but
> joined at their own request. The Kremlin attempts to present NATO as a
> Western plot to encroach upon its territory, but in reality the growth in
> Alliance membership is the natural response of those states to its own
> malign activities and threats.
>
> Third, the allegation that NATO is seeking to encircle the Russian
> Federation is without foundation. Only five of the thirty allies neighbour
> Russia, with just 1/16th of its borders abutted by NATO. If the definition
> of being surrounded is 6% of your perimeter being blocked then no doubt
> the brave men who fought at Arnhem or Leningrad in the Second World War
> would have something strong to say about it.
>
> It is not the disposition of NATO forces but the appeal of its values that
> actually threatens the Kremlin. Just as we know that its actions are
> really about what President Putin’s interpretation of history is and his
> unfinished ambitions for Ukraine.
>
> We know that because last summer he published, via the official Government
> website, his own article “On the Historical Unity of Russians and
> Ukrainians”. I urge you to read it, if you have time, because while it is
> comprehensive on his arguments it is short on accuracy and long on
> contradictions.
>
> We should all worry because what flows from the pen of President Putin
> himself is a seven-thousand-word essay that puts ethnonationalism at the
> heart of his ambitions. Not the narrative now being peddled. Not the straw
> man of NATO encroachment. It provides the skewed and selective reasoning
> to justify, at best, the subjugation of Ukraine and at worse the forced
> unification of that sovereign country.
>
> President Putin’s article completely ignores the wishes of the citizens of
> Ukraine, while evoking that same type of ethnonationalism which played out
> across Europe for centuries and still has the potential to awaken the same
> destructive forces of ancient hatred. Readers will not only be shocked at
> the tone of the article but they will also be surprised at how little NATO
> is mentioned. After all, is NATO ‘expansionism’ not the fountain of all
> the Kremlin’s concerns? In fact, just a single paragraph is devoted to
> NATO.
>
> The essay makes in it three claims. One: that the West seeks to use
> division to “rule” Russia. Two: that anything other than a single nation
> of Great Russia, Little Russia and White Russia (Velikorussians,
> Malorussians, Belorussians) in the image advanced in the 17th Century is
> an artificial construct and defies the desires of a single people, with a
> single language and church. Third, that anyone who disagrees does so out
> of a hatred or phobia of Russia.
>
> We can dispense with the first allegation. No one wants to rule Russia. It
> is stating the obvious that just like any other state it is for the
> citizens of a country to determine their own future. Russia’s own lessons
> from such conflicts as Chechnya must surely be that ethnic and sectarian
> conflicts cost thousands of innocent lives with the protagonists getting
> bogged down in decades of strife.
>
> As for Ukraine, Russia itself recognised the sovereignty of it as an
> independent country and guaranteed its territorial integrity, not just by
> signing the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 but also its Friendship Treaty
> with Ukraine itself in 1997. Yet it is the Kremlin not the West that set
> about magnifying divisions in that country and several others in the
> Europe. It has been well documented the numerous efforts of the GRU and
> other Russian agencies to interfere in democratic elections and domestic
> disputes is well documented. The divide and rule cap sits prettiest on
> Moscow’s head not NATO’s.
>
> Probably the most important and strongly believed claim that Ukraine is
> Russia and Russia is Ukraine is not quite as presented. Ukraine has been
> separate from Russia for far longer in its history than it was ever
> united. Secondly the charge that all peoples in Belarus, Russia and
> Ukraine are descendants of the ‘Ancient Rus’ and are therefore somehow all
> Russians. But in reality, according to historian Professor Andrew Wilson
> in his excellent essay for RUSI entitled “Russia and Ukraine: ‘One People’
> as Putin Claims?” they are at best “kin but not the same people”. In the
> same way Britain around 900AD consisted of Mercia, Wessex, York,
> Strathclyde and other pre-modern kingdoms, but it was a civic nation of
> many peoples, origins and ethnicities that eventually formed the United
> Kingdom.
>
> If you start and stop your view of Russian history between 1654 and 1917
> then you can fabricate a case for a more expansive Russia, perhaps along
> the lines of the motto of the Russian Tsar before the Russian Empire
> “Sovereign of all of Rus: the Great, the Little, and the White” – Russia,
> Ukraine and Belarus respectively. And crucially you must also forget the
> before and after in history. You must ignore the existence of the Soviet
> Union, breaking of the Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty, and the
> occupation of Crimea. Far more than footnotes in history, I am sure you
> will agree.
>
> Ironically, President Putin himself admits in his essay that “things
> change: countries and communities are no exception. Of course, some part
> of a people in the process of its development, influenced by a number of
> reasons and historical circumstances, can become aware of itself as a
> separate nation at a certain moment. How should we treat that? There is
> only one answer: with respect!” However, he then goes on to discard some
> of those “historical circumstances” to fit his own claims..
>
> Dubious to say the least, and not in anyway a perspective that justifies
> both the occupation of Crimea (in the same way Russia occupied Crimea in
> 1783 in defiance of the Russo-Turkish Treaty of Kuchuk-Kainarji in 1774)
> or any further invasion of modern Ukraine, as an independent sovereign
> country.
>
> The last charge against the West by many in the Russian Government is that
> those who disagree with the Kremlin are somehow Russophobes. Leaving aside
> that GRU officers deployed nerve agents on British streets or that cyber
> hacking and targeted assassinations emanate from the Russian state,
> nothing could be further than the truth.
>
> Russia and the UK share a deep and often mutually beneficial history. Our
> allegiances helped to finally defeat Napoleon and later Hitler. Outside of
> conflict, across the centuries we shared technology, medicine and culture..
> During the 18th Century Russia and Britain were deeply tied. Between 1704
> to 1854, from age of Peter the Great through Catherine the Great and well
> into the 19th Century the British were to be found as admirals, generals,
> surgeons, and architects at the highest level of the Russian Court. The
> father of the Russian Navy – one Samuel Greig – was born in Inverkeithing
> in Fife.
>
> That shared admiration is still true today. The British Government is not
> in dispute with Russia and the Russian people – far from it – but it does
> take issue with the malign activity of the Kremlin.
>
> So, if one cold January or February night Russian Military forces once
> more cross into sovereign Ukraine, ignore the ‘straw man’ narratives and
> ‘false flag’ stories of NATO aggression and remember the President of
> Russia’s own words in that essay from last summer. Remember it and ask
> yourself what it means, not just for Ukraine, but for all of us in Europe..
> What it means the next time…

On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 10:06:40 PM UTC-6, LowRider44M wrote:
> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 8:40:00 PM UTC-5, slider wrote:
> > I have lost count of how many times recently I have to had to explain the
> > meaning of the English term “straw man” to my European allies. That is
> > because the best living, breathing “straw man” at the moment is the
> > Kremlin’s claim to be under threat from NATO. In recent weeks the Russian
> > Defence Minister’s comment that the US is “preparing a provocation with
> > chemical components in eastern Ukraine” has made that “straw man” even
> > bigger.
> >
> > It is obviously the Kremlin’s desire that we all engage with this bogus
> > allegation, instead of challenging the real agenda of the President of the
> > Russian Federation. An examination of the facts rapidly puts a match to
> > the allegations against NATO.
> >
> > https://www.gov.uk/government/news/an-article-by-the-defence-secretary-on-the-situation-in-ukraine
> >
> > First, NATO is, to its core, defensive in nature. At the heart of the
> > organisation is Article 5 that obliges all members to come to the aid of a
> > fellow member if it is under attack. No ifs and no buts. Mutual
> > self-defence is NATO’s cornerstone. This obligation protects us all.
> > Allies from as far apart as Turkey and Norway; or as close as Latvia and
> > Poland all benefit from the pact and are obliged to respond. It is a truly
> > defensive alliance.
> >
> > Second, former Soviet states have not been expanded ‘into’ by NATO, but
> > joined at their own request. The Kremlin attempts to present NATO as a
> > Western plot to encroach upon its territory, but in reality the growth in
> > Alliance membership is the natural response of those states to its own
> > malign activities and threats.
> >
> > Third, the allegation that NATO is seeking to encircle the Russian
> > Federation is without foundation. Only five of the thirty allies neighbour
> > Russia, with just 1/16th of its borders abutted by NATO. If the definition
> > of being surrounded is 6% of your perimeter being blocked then no doubt
> > the brave men who fought at Arnhem or Leningrad in the Second World War
> > would have something strong to say about it.
> >
> > It is not the disposition of NATO forces but the appeal of its values that
> > actually threatens the Kremlin. Just as we know that its actions are
> > really about what President Putin’s interpretation of history is and his
> > unfinished ambitions for Ukraine.
> >
> > We know that because last summer he published, via the official Government
> > website, his own article “On the Historical Unity of Russians and
> > Ukrainians”. I urge you to read it, if you have time, because while it is
> > comprehensive on his arguments it is short on accuracy and long on
> > contradictions.
> >
> > We should all worry because what flows from the pen of President Putin
> > himself is a seven-thousand-word essay that puts ethnonationalism at the
> > heart of his ambitions. Not the narrative now being peddled. Not the straw
> > man of NATO encroachment. It provides the skewed and selective reasoning
> > to justify, at best, the subjugation of Ukraine and at worse the forced
> > unification of that sovereign country.
> >
> > President Putin’s article completely ignores the wishes of the citizens of
> > Ukraine, while evoking that same type of ethnonationalism which played out
> > across Europe for centuries and still has the potential to awaken the same
> > destructive forces of ancient hatred. Readers will not only be shocked at
> > the tone of the article but they will also be surprised at how little NATO
> > is mentioned. After all, is NATO ‘expansionism’ not the fountain of all
> > the Kremlin’s concerns? In fact, just a single paragraph is devoted to
> > NATO.
> >
> > The essay makes in it three claims. One: that the West seeks to use
> > division to “rule” Russia. Two: that anything other than a single nation
> > of Great Russia, Little Russia and White Russia (Velikorussians,
> > Malorussians, Belorussians) in the image advanced in the 17th Century is
> > an artificial construct and defies the desires of a single people, with a
> > single language and church. Third, that anyone who disagrees does so out
> > of a hatred or phobia of Russia.
> >
> > We can dispense with the first allegation. No one wants to rule Russia. It
> > is stating the obvious that just like any other state it is for the
> > citizens of a country to determine their own future. Russia’s own lessons
> > from such conflicts as Chechnya must surely be that ethnic and sectarian
> > conflicts cost thousands of innocent lives with the protagonists getting
> > bogged down in decades of strife.
> >
> > As for Ukraine, Russia itself recognised the sovereignty of it as an
> > independent country and guaranteed its territorial integrity, not just by
> > signing the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 but also its Friendship Treaty
> > with Ukraine itself in 1997. Yet it is the Kremlin not the West that set
> > about magnifying divisions in that country and several others in the
> > Europe. It has been well documented the numerous efforts of the GRU and
> > other Russian agencies to interfere in democratic elections and domestic
> > disputes is well documented. The divide and rule cap sits prettiest on
> > Moscow’s head not NATO’s.
> >
> > Probably the most important and strongly believed claim that Ukraine is
> > Russia and Russia is Ukraine is not quite as presented. Ukraine has been
> > separate from Russia for far longer in its history than it was ever
> > united. Secondly the charge that all peoples in Belarus, Russia and
> > Ukraine are descendants of the ‘Ancient Rus’ and are therefore somehow all
> > Russians. But in reality, according to historian Professor Andrew Wilson
> > in his excellent essay for RUSI entitled “Russia and Ukraine: ‘One People’
> > as Putin Claims?” they are at best “kin but not the same people”. In the
> > same way Britain around 900AD consisted of Mercia, Wessex, York,
> > Strathclyde and other pre-modern kingdoms, but it was a civic nation of
> > many peoples, origins and ethnicities that eventually formed the United
> > Kingdom.
> >
> > If you start and stop your view of Russian history between 1654 and 1917
> > then you can fabricate a case for a more expansive Russia, perhaps along
> > the lines of the motto of the Russian Tsar before the Russian Empire
> > “Sovereign of all of Rus: the Great, the Little, and the White” – Russia,
> > Ukraine and Belarus respectively. And crucially you must also forget the
> > before and after in history. You must ignore the existence of the Soviet
> > Union, breaking of the Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty, and the
> > occupation of Crimea. Far more than footnotes in history, I am sure you
> > will agree.
> >
> > Ironically, President Putin himself admits in his essay that “things
> > change: countries and communities are no exception. Of course, some part
> > of a people in the process of its development, influenced by a number of
> > reasons and historical circumstances, can become aware of itself as a
> > separate nation at a certain moment. How should we treat that? There is
> > only one answer: with respect!” However, he then goes on to discard some
> > of those “historical circumstances” to fit his own claims.
> >
> > Dubious to say the least, and not in anyway a perspective that justifies
> > both the occupation of Crimea (in the same way Russia occupied Crimea in
> > 1783 in defiance of the Russo-Turkish Treaty of Kuchuk-Kainarji in 1774)
> > or any further invasion of modern Ukraine, as an independent sovereign
> > country.
> >
> > The last charge against the West by many in the Russian Government is that
> > those who disagree with the Kremlin are somehow Russophobes. Leaving aside
> > that GRU officers deployed nerve agents on British streets or that cyber
> > hacking and targeted assassinations emanate from the Russian state,
> > nothing could be further than the truth.
> >
> > Russia and the UK share a deep and often mutually beneficial history. Our
> > allegiances helped to finally defeat Napoleon and later Hitler. Outside of
> > conflict, across the centuries we shared technology, medicine and culture.
> > During the 18th Century Russia and Britain were deeply tied. Between 1704
> > to 1854, from age of Peter the Great through Catherine the Great and well
> > into the 19th Century the British were to be found as admirals, generals,
> > surgeons, and architects at the highest level of the Russian Court. The
> > father of the Russian Navy – one Samuel Greig – was born in Inverkeithing
> > in Fife.
> >
> > That shared admiration is still true today. The British Government is not
> > in dispute with Russia and the Russian people – far from it – but it does
> > take issue with the malign activity of the Kremlin.
> >
> > So, if one cold January or February night Russian Military forces once
> > more cross into sovereign Ukraine, ignore the ‘straw man’ narratives and
> > ‘false flag’ stories of NATO aggression and remember the President of
> > Russia’s own words in that essay from last summer. Remember it and ask
> > yourself what it means, not just for Ukraine, but for all of us in Europe.
> > What it means the next time…
> >
> > ### - this apparently being the now 'official' stance of the uk in the
> > matter which was quietly published yesterday... something which no doubt
> > justifies the uk gov sending advanced anti-tank weapons (and presumably
> > the troops to operate them) to ukraine...
> >
> > it only remaining to be seen then WHICH side calls-out the 'false-flag'
> > trigger-event first? (the: look what they've done! look what they've done!
> > type-scenario etc etc, that kicks-off an offensive)
> >
> > there currently being some chatter re it possibly being about a
> > chemical-attack of some description or another, hmm...
> >
> > better place yer' bets then!
> >
> > coz they obviously AIN'T gonna leave this shit alone until it ALL boils
> > over?
> >
> > (imho, covid has obviously driven them all even MORE insane than they were
> > before!)
> Ughmm!
> No mention of the CIA sponsored "Color Revolution"
> https://www.voanews.com/a/kremlin-fears-color-revolution-in-kazakhstan-/6387392.html
>
> I respect your POV, but you ignore the "Criminal Uniparty" USA has become..
> The people left, right, and center know they've been had by a elite criminal class spun out of control.
> People on all sides are pulling back and saying "WTF happened, WTF have we become."
> And the left and right leaders can't face USA is 30 trillion in debt, and has won a war in 75 years.
> If the Brits are on the playing field CIA made a deal with them to serve as the tip of the spear.
> The elites know they have zero support for war from USA citizens.

On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 10:25:51 PM UTC-6, LowRider44M wrote:
> This is a good bit, with a Neo-Con getting schooled.
> https://twitter.com/i/status/1481099915308769281

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