On 11/7/2023 1:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 11:57:25 -0500, Michael Trew
> <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On 11/6/2023 2:24 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/2023 1:03 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a different kind of mental defective the like likes of
>>>>> which I don't recall we've seen here before. It seems pointlessly
>>>>> stupid and chickenshit, so if this is leading somewhere you need
>>>>> to step it up a a bit.
>>>>
>>>> I exaggerated a bit; sue me! You're a hypochondriac, and everyone
>>>> here knows it. No one else commented, because they are bored of your
>>>> stories.
>>>
>>> I think he's just lonely.
>>
>> It upsets him that people here mostly ignore his shenanigans, and don't
>> suck up to him like the people on Reddit do. Heh, I guess my diagnosis
>> of him makes me "mentally defective".
>
> Sometimes you're a very bad judge of character (Greg, Bryan) but
> sometimes you're a good one (the Sqwertz child)

"Treat people the way that you'd like to be treated"

Although, don't let them walk all over you.

On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 11:57:25 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:

> It upsets him that people here mostly ignore his shenanigans, and don't
> suck up to him like the people on Reddit do. Heh, I guess my diagnosis
> of him makes me "mentally defective".

And there you do it.... AGAIN! You just love lying. Maybe time
for road trip myself...

Nobody sucks up to anybody on reddit, especially not me. Each post
is taken afresh at it's own face value. It's not like there's
only a dozen participants/contributors to keep track of.

How about dinner and a nightcapping at your house, Mikey? Send
your daughter to Mommy's that night.

-sw

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 15:17:53 -0000, Janet wrote:

> Neither have I, until last year's, when they were
> administered on the same day, opposite arms. My husband,
> same shots on same day, had no side effects at all. I felt
> very unwell for 48 hours.
>
> This year I've arranged to have them separately; flu
> shot done three weeks ago, covid this week.

Yeah, this was the combo shot. We're still blinded as to wether it
was split between two arms or all in one arm, but obviously I was
in the later group - judging by the pain in the one arm and
absolutely nothing in the other arm (placebo).

They advertise on TV getting them each the same day (in different
arms). But combining them into a single shot still isn't FDA
approved yet. Which is where I come into this...

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 11:57:25 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>> It upsets him that people here mostly ignore his shenanigans, and don't
>> suck up to him like the people on Reddit do. Heh, I guess my diagnosis
>> of him makes me "mentally defective".
>
> And there you do it.... AGAIN! You just love lying. Maybe time
> for road trip myself...
>
> -sw
>
>
You could mail yourself there in a shoe box, dwarf.
--
GM

On 2023-11-08 9:39 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 15:17:53 -0000, Janet wrote:
>
>> This year I've arranged to have them separately; flu
>> shot done three weeks ago, covid this week.
>
> Yeah, this was the combo shot. We're still blinded as to wether it
> was split between two arms or all in one arm, but obviously I was
> in the later group - judging by the pain in the one arm and
> absolutely nothing in the other arm (placebo).
>
> They advertise on TV getting them each the same day (in different
> arms). But combining them into a single shot still isn't FDA
> approved yet. Which is where I come into this...
>

I'm done for a while. I had thought I was getting my flu and Covid19
booster at the same time on Friday but their communication had been
confusing. As it turned out they had me scheduled only for the flu shot
and did not have any others scheduled for Covid. I got the flu shot in
the left arm and she booked me for the Covid19 booster on Monday. I got
that one in the right arm. The flu shot had not hurt at all. The Covid19
shot was a little painful later on and a little tender yesterday. It's
fine today, and I have had no other issues.... no sniffles, no coughing,
no upset guts, no fever.

This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones who
has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some more than
once. One guy has had it 5 times.

On 11/8/2023 10:47 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

> I'm done for a while. I had thought I was getting my flu and Covid19
> booster at the same time on Friday but their communication had been
> confusing. As it turned out they had me scheduled only for the flu shot
> and did not have any others scheduled for Covid. I got the flu shot in
> the left arm and she booked me for the Covid19 booster on Monday. I got
> that one in the right arm. The flu shot had not hurt at all. The Covid19
> shot was a little painful later on and a little tender yesterday. It's
> fine today, and I have had no other issues.... no sniffles, no coughing,
> no upset guts, no fever.

Mostly, the pain comes from the way it was injected, not the particular
chemistry of the shot. Your muscle mass comes into play, as well as how
much pressure in pushing on the syringe.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:47:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-11-08 9:39 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 15:17:53 -0000, Janet wrote:
> >
> >> This year I've arranged to have them separately; flu
> >> shot done three weeks ago, covid this week.
> >
> > Yeah, this was the combo shot. We're still blinded as to wether it
> > was split between two arms or all in one arm, but obviously I was
> > in the later group - judging by the pain in the one arm and
> > absolutely nothing in the other arm (placebo).
> >
> > They advertise on TV getting them each the same day (in different
> > arms). But combining them into a single shot still isn't FDA
> > approved yet. Which is where I come into this...
> >
> I'm done for a while. I had thought I was getting my flu and Covid19
> booster at the same time on Friday but their communication had been
> confusing. As it turned out they had me scheduled only for the flu shot
> and did not have any others scheduled for Covid. I got the flu shot in
> the left arm and she booked me for the Covid19 booster on Monday. I got
> that one in the right arm. The flu shot had not hurt at all. The Covid19
> shot was a little painful later on and a little tender yesterday. It's
> fine today, and I have had no other issues.... no sniffles, no coughing,
> no upset guts, no fever.
>
> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones who
> has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some more than
> once. One guy has had it 5 times.

My doc prescribed some Ozempic to get a little better handle on my A1C. Boy, was that an ordeal. You take it once a week which is a pretty good deal but it made me nauseous and dizzy. The good news, I suppose, is that I only vomited once. I can handle muscular pain alright but I didn't emerge from the house for a couple of days and stayed flat on my back. I'm still a little shaky. I'm glad I tried the drug - it's always better to know than to not know. Or is it?

On 2023-11-08 12:48 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:47:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>> On 2023-11-08 9:39 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 15:17:53 -0000, Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>> This year I've arranged to have them separately; flu shot done
>>>> three weeks ago, covid this week.
>>>
>>> Yeah, this was the combo shot. We're still blinded as to wether
>>> it was split between two arms or all in one arm, but obviously I
>>> was in the later group - judging by the pain in the one arm and
>>> absolutely nothing in the other arm (placebo).
>>>
>>> They advertise on TV getting them each the same day (in
>>> different arms). But combining them into a single shot still
>>> isn't FDA approved yet. Which is where I come into this...
>>>
>> I'm done for a while. I had thought I was getting my flu and
>> Covid19 booster at the same time on Friday but their communication
>> had been confusing. As it turned out they had me scheduled only for
>> the flu shot and did not have any others scheduled for Covid. I got
>> the flu shot in the left arm and she booked me for the Covid19
>> booster on Monday. I got that one in the right arm. The flu shot
>> had not hurt at all. The Covid19 shot was a little painful later on
>> and a little tender yesterday. It's fine today, and I have had no
>> other issues.... no sniffles, no coughing, no upset guts, no
>> fever.
>>
>> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones
>> who has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some
>> more than once. One guy has had it 5 times.
>
> My doc prescribed some Ozempic to get a little better handle on my
> A1C. Boy, was that an ordeal. You take it once a week which is a
> pretty good deal but it made me nauseous and dizzy. The good news, I
> suppose, is that I only vomited once. I can handle muscular pain
> alright but I didn't emerge from the house for a couple of days and
> stayed flat on my back. I'm still a little shaky. I'm glad I tried
> the drug - it's always better to know than to not know. Or is it?

The last I heard that stuff was hard to get because so many people are
using it for weight loss that the supply can't keep up with the demand.
I know a guy who had to lose weight to have a hernia operation.
Meanwhile he was diagnosed with diabetes. He started taking Ozempic and
dropped 50 lb.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:44:25 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-11-08 12:48 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:47:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> >> On 2023-11-08 9:39 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 15:17:53 -0000, Janet wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This year I've arranged to have them separately; flu shot done
> >>>> three weeks ago, covid this week.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, this was the combo shot. We're still blinded as to wether
> >>> it was split between two arms or all in one arm, but obviously I
> >>> was in the later group - judging by the pain in the one arm and
> >>> absolutely nothing in the other arm (placebo).
> >>>
> >>> They advertise on TV getting them each the same day (in
> >>> different arms). But combining them into a single shot still
> >>> isn't FDA approved yet. Which is where I come into this...
> >>>
> >> I'm done for a while. I had thought I was getting my flu and
> >> Covid19 booster at the same time on Friday but their communication
> >> had been confusing. As it turned out they had me scheduled only for
> >> the flu shot and did not have any others scheduled for Covid. I got
> >> the flu shot in the left arm and she booked me for the Covid19
> >> booster on Monday. I got that one in the right arm. The flu shot
> >> had not hurt at all. The Covid19 shot was a little painful later on
> >> and a little tender yesterday. It's fine today, and I have had no
> >> other issues.... no sniffles, no coughing, no upset guts, no
> >> fever.
> >>
> >> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones
> >> who has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some
> >> more than once. One guy has had it 5 times.
> >
> > My doc prescribed some Ozempic to get a little better handle on my
> > A1C. Boy, was that an ordeal. You take it once a week which is a
> > pretty good deal but it made me nauseous and dizzy. The good news, I
> > suppose, is that I only vomited once. I can handle muscular pain
> > alright but I didn't emerge from the house for a couple of days and
> > stayed flat on my back. I'm still a little shaky. I'm glad I tried
> > the drug - it's always better to know than to not know. Or is it?
> The last I heard that stuff was hard to get because so many people are
> using it for weight loss that the supply can't keep up with the demand.
> I know a guy who had to lose weight to have a hernia operation.
> Meanwhile he was diagnosed with diabetes. He started taking Ozempic and
> dropped 50 lb.

It might be a wonder drug but it's not for me. My understanding is that one problem is that when you're off the drug, your desire for food gets to be insatiable. I was a bit like that last week but my lack of appetite has returned. That's a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaGtDJo5R5o

On 2023-11-08 5:57 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:44:25 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>> On 2023-11-08 12:48 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:47:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-08 9:39 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 15:17:53 -0000, Janet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This year I've arranged to have them separately; flu shot
>>>>>> done three weeks ago, covid this week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, this was the combo shot. We're still blinded as to
>>>>> wether it was split between two arms or all in one arm, but
>>>>> obviously I was in the later group - judging by the pain in
>>>>> the one arm and absolutely nothing in the other arm
>>>>> (placebo).
>>>>>
>>>>> They advertise on TV getting them each the same day (in
>>>>> different arms). But combining them into a single shot still
>>>>> isn't FDA approved yet. Which is where I come into this...
>>>>>
>>>> I'm done for a while. I had thought I was getting my flu and
>>>> Covid19 booster at the same time on Friday but their
>>>> communication had been confusing. As it turned out they had me
>>>> scheduled only for the flu shot and did not have any others
>>>> scheduled for Covid. I got the flu shot in the left arm and she
>>>> booked me for the Covid19 booster on Monday. I got that one in
>>>> the right arm. The flu shot had not hurt at all. The Covid19
>>>> shot was a little painful later on and a little tender
>>>> yesterday. It's fine today, and I have had no other issues....
>>>> no sniffles, no coughing, no upset guts, no fever.
>>>>
>>>> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky
>>>> ones who has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it,
>>>> some more than once. One guy has had it 5 times.
>>>
>>> My doc prescribed some Ozempic to get a little better handle on
>>> my A1C. Boy, was that an ordeal. You take it once a week which is
>>> a pretty good deal but it made me nauseous and dizzy. The good
>>> news, I suppose, is that I only vomited once. I can handle
>>> muscular pain alright but I didn't emerge from the house for a
>>> couple of days and stayed flat on my back. I'm still a little
>>> shaky. I'm glad I tried the drug - it's always better to know
>>> than to not know. Or is it?
>> The last I heard that stuff was hard to get because so many people
>> are using it for weight loss that the supply can't keep up with the
>> demand. I know a guy who had to lose weight to have a hernia
>> operation. Meanwhile he was diagnosed with diabetes. He started
>> taking Ozempic and dropped 50 lb.
>
> It might be a wonder drug but it's not for me. My understanding is
> that one problem is that when you're off the drug, your desire for
> food gets to be insatiable. I was a bit like that last week but my
> lack of appetite has returned. That's a good thing.

That may be, but it may not be much different from other diets. I have
dieted in the past and lost weight and did just fine until I had some
sugar, and then my conscience disappeared and I was well on my way to
making up for all the sugar I had deprived myself of for weeks.

Bruce wrote:
....
> This is the first post I see in 5.5 hours and it was not the American
> night. I think Eternal September still has a problem.

it's been mostly cross-posts to some other group which
i've mostly ignored.

songbird

Michael Trew wrote:
....
> "Treat people the way that you'd like to be treated"
>
> Although, don't let them walk all over you.

i like the more personal version instead which goes
"Treat people how they would like to be treated."

as then it implies that you actually get to know
them before assuming things about them.

not that i always live up to that, but it's a way
of getting out of my own limited view and asking people
what's up.

songbird

On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:35:23 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:

>Michael Trew wrote:
>...
>> "Treat people the way that you'd like to be treated"
>>
>> Although, don't let them walk all over you.
>
> i like the more personal version instead which goes
>"Treat people how they would like to be treated."
>
> as then it implies that you actually get to know
>them before assuming things about them.
>
> not that i always live up to that, but it's a way
>of getting out of my own limited view and asking people
>what's up.

This is the first post I see in 5.5 hours and it was not the American
night. I think Eternal September still has a problem.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2023-11-08 9:39 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 15:17:53 -0000, Janet wrote:
> >
> >> This year I've arranged to have them separately; flu
> > > shot done three weeks ago, covid this week.
> >
> > Yeah, this was the combo shot. We're still blinded as to wether it
> > was split between two arms or all in one arm, but obviously I was
> > in the later group - judging by the pain in the one arm and
> > absolutely nothing in the other arm (placebo).
> >
> > They advertise on TV getting them each the same day (in different
> > arms). But combining them into a single shot still isn't FDA
> > approved yet. Which is where I come into this...
> >
>
> I'm done for a while. I had thought I was getting my flu and Covid19
> booster at the same time on Friday but their communication had been
> confusing. As it turned out they had me scheduled only for the flu
> shot and did not have any others scheduled for Covid. I got the flu
> shot in the left arm and she booked me for the Covid19 booster on
> Monday. I got that one in the right arm. The flu shot had not hurt at
> all. The Covid19 shot was a little painful later on and a little
> tender yesterday. It's fine today, and I have had no other issues....
> no sniffles, no coughing, no upset guts, no fever.
>
> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones who
> has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some more than
> once. One guy has had it 5 times.

Don and I are scheduled to have both (5th Covid) on the 22nd. Neither
of us have had Covid, best we can tell.

On 2023-11-09 2:52 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

>> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones who
>> has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some more than
>> once. One guy has had it 5 times.
>
> Don and I are scheduled to have both (5th Covid) on the 22nd. Neither
> of us have had Covid, best we can tell.

Since so many people have had it, some of them not seriously ill, I have
to wonder if perhaps I may have had it but symptoms were so very mild I
missed them.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 15:10:56 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-11-09 2:52 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones who
>>> has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some more than
>>> once. One guy has had it 5 times.
>>
>> Don and I are scheduled to have both (5th Covid) on the 22nd. Neither
>> of us have had Covid, best we can tell.
>
>Since so many people have had it, some of them not seriously ill, I have
>to wonder if perhaps I may have had it but symptoms were so very mild I
>missed them.
>
I haven't had it, but someone who did, told me that, for a few days,
she felt a bit tired, had a mild headache and her baby cried more than
normal. That was all. Easy to miss.

On 2023-11-09 1:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-11-09 2:52 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones who
>>> has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some more than
>>> once. One guy has had it 5 times.
>>
>> Don and I are scheduled to have both (5th Covid) on the 22nd.  Neither
>> of us have had Covid, best we can tell.
>
> Since so many people have had it, some of them not seriously ill, I have
> to wonder if perhaps I may have had it but symptoms were so very mild I
> missed them.

That thought has certainly crossed my mind. During the first year of the
pandemic, I had a sore throat (one of the covid symptoms) for about a
day. I've often wondered if that was a mild attack.
However, although I had the sixth shot last April (2nd bivalent) I had a
full-on bout of covid in September - presumably the new variant.
I'll get another booster after xmas.

On 11/9/2023 3:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-11-09 2:52 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones who
>>> has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some more than
>>> once. One guy has had it 5 times.
>>
>> Don and I are scheduled to have both (5th Covid) on the 22nd.  Neither
>> of us have had Covid, best we can tell.
>
> Since so many people have had it, some of them not seriously ill, I have
> to wonder if perhaps I may have had it but symptoms were so very mild I
> missed them.

I know 3 people with it in the past couple of months and it was mild for
them. Fortunately, it has changed quite a bit. Still people die from
it though.

What are the 3 new Covid symptoms?
3 New COVID-19 Symptoms to Watch For
On June 30, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention added three
symptoms to its COVID-19 list: Congestion/stuffy nose, nausea and
diarrhea. Those three new conditions now join other symptoms identified
by the CDC: Fever

On 2023-11-09 4:31 p.m., Ed P wrote:
> On 11/9/2023 3:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> Since so many people have had it, some of them not seriously ill, I
>> have to wonder if perhaps I may have had it but symptoms were so very
>> mild I missed them.
>
> I know 3 people with it in the past couple of months and it was mild for
> them.   Fortunately, it has changed quite a bit. Still people die from
> it though.

My friend and his wife were probably the most careful throughout the
pandemic but managed to get it. In September they went on a river cruise
in France and caught again over there. They both tested positive but
symptoms were mild enough that they were able to carry on. They were
just a little under the weather for a couple days.

>
> What are the 3 new Covid symptoms?
> 3 New COVID-19 Symptoms to Watch For
> On June 30, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention added three
> symptoms to its COVID-19 list: Congestion/stuffy nose, nausea and
> diarrhea. Those three new conditions now join other symptoms identified
> by the CDC: Fever

Weren't those the symptoms of Covid for the last three years?

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 17:28:21 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-11-09 4:31 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>> On 11/9/2023 3:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> Since so many people have had it, some of them not seriously ill, I
>>> have to wonder if perhaps I may have had it but symptoms were so very
>>> mild I missed them.
>>
>> I know 3 people with it in the past couple of months and it was mild for
>> them.   Fortunately, it has changed quite a bit. Still people die from
>> it though.
>
>My friend and his wife were probably the most careful throughout the
>pandemic but managed to get it. In September they went on a river cruise
>in France and caught again over there. They both tested positive but
>symptoms were mild enough that they were able to carry on. They were
>just a little under the weather for a couple days.

Going on a river cruise in a country you need to fly to, is hardly
what I'd call "most careful". On the contrary, it's asking for it.

On 2023-11-09 3:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-11-09 4:31 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>> On 11/9/2023 3:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> Since so many people have had it, some of them not seriously ill, I
>>> have to wonder if perhaps I may have had it but symptoms were so very
>>> mild I missed them.
>>
>> I know 3 people with it in the past couple of months and it was mild
>> for them.   Fortunately, it has changed quite a bit. Still people die
>> from it though.
>
> My friend and his wife were probably the most careful throughout the
> pandemic but managed to get it. In September they went on a river cruise
> in France and caught again over there. They both tested positive but
> symptoms were mild enough that they were able to carry on. They were
> just a little under the weather for a couple days.
>

In my case, it was like a bad cold but without the excessive snot.

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 17:28:21 -0500, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> >My friend and his wife were probably the most careful throughout the
> >pandemic but managed to get it. In September they went on a river cruise
> >in France and caught again over there. They both tested positive but
> >symptoms were mild enough that they were able to carry on. They were
> >just a little under the weather for a couple days.
> >
> Going on a river cruise in a country you need to fly to, is hardly
> what I'd call "most careful". On the contrary, it's asking for it.
>
It would be no different than going on a guided tour. But there's no panic now
as was in the first month/year of Covid, so why not go??

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 15:09:11 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
<itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 17:28:21 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >My friend and his wife were probably the most careful throughout the
>> >pandemic but managed to get it. In September they went on a river cruise
>> >in France and caught again over there. They both tested positive but
>> >symptoms were mild enough that they were able to carry on. They were
>> >just a little under the weather for a couple days.
>> >
>> Going on a river cruise in a country you need to fly to, is hardly
>> what I'd call "most careful". On the contrary, it's asking for it.
>>
>It would be no different than going on a guided tour. But there's no panic now
>as was in the first month/year of Covid, so why not go??

Yes, now it's different, I guess.

Bruce wrote:
....
> Going on a river cruise in a country you need to fly to, is hardly
> what I'd call "most careful". On the contrary, it's asking for it.

just being in an airport and then on a plane.

songbird

In article <k1b3N.12$%p%e.5@fx43.iad>,
adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
>
> On 2023-11-09 2:52 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> This was Covid19 shot number 6 for me. I am one of the lucky ones who
> >> has avoided it. A lot of people around me have had it, some more than
> >> once. One guy has had it 5 times.
> >
> > Don and I are scheduled to have both (5th Covid) on the 22nd. Neither
> > of us have had Covid, best we can tell.
>
> Since so many people have had it, some of them not seriously ill, I have
> to wonder if perhaps I may have had it but symptoms were so very mild I
> missed them.

A year back (fully vaccinated) we both had something
we identified as a mild and short-lived "summer cold"
without suspecting it was covid. A couple of days later
our regular monthly blood and throat covid research
samples came back positive for covid.

We'd picked it up in a succession of crowded airports
where we wore masks/took all precautions but others did
not.

Janet UK