On 2024-03-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:26:56 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
>>> I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
>>> bites on.
>>> So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.
>>
>>Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand lavender.
>> It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.
>
> I don't mind the smell but I don't need to eat it, just like I
> wouldn't like to eat air freshener.

Yet it's a component of the classic herbs de Provence. Ah, well,
to each their own.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
>>> On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>> I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
>>>> bites on.
>>>> So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.
>>>
>>> Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
>>> lavender.   It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.
>>>
>> I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.
>>
> So do I.
> I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
> deter moths, too.

Are moths even a "thing" anymore, now that we launder our clothing on
a regular basis?

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 09/03/2024 10:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:

>>> I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.
>>>
>> So do I.
>> I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
>> deter moths, too.
>
> Are moths even a "thing" anymore, now that we launder our clothing on
> a regular basis?
>
Yes.
I don't wear much wool in hot weather, and having lost a few really nice
garments to moths, I started doing what my Granny did, and storing
woolens with lavender.
It works.

On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> On 09/03/2024 10:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>> On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>> I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.
>>>>
>>> So do I.
>>> I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
>>> deter moths, too.
>>
>> Are moths even a "thing" anymore, now that we launder our clothing on
>> a regular basis?
>>
> Yes.
> I don't wear much wool in hot weather, and having lost a few really nice
> garments to moths, I started doing what my Granny did, and storing
> woolens with lavender.
> It works.

Ah. I don't wear wool at all. If it can't go in the washing machine
and dryer, I'm not interested.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 3/8/2024 9:11 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
>>> On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>> I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
>>>> bites on.
>>>> So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.
>>>
>>> Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
>>> lavender.   It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.
>>>
>> I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.
>>
> So do I.
> I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
> deter moths, too.
>
I have some lavender water that I spritz on my pillow cases. I don't
care for strong scents but this is very light and I find it helps me
sleep. :)

Jill

On 3/9/2024 5:59 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-09, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> On 09/03/2024 00:01, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
>>>> On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>> I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
>>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
>>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
>>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
>>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
>>>>> bites on.
>>>>> So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.
>>>>
>>>> Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
>>>> lavender.   It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.
>>>>
>>> I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.
>>>
>> So do I.
>> I hang little sachets on my clothes hangers - smells nice, and helps to
>> deter moths, too.
>
> Are moths even a "thing" anymore, now that we launder our clothing on
> a regular basis?
>
It depends on the clothing. I have a couple of wool coats (which, as
you can imagine, I don't need to wear in South Carolina) hanging in the
hall closet. There is some evidence of moth holes. I'll have to spritz
them with lavender water. I didn't know lavender would deter moths.

Jill

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
....
> I prefer my speeds stated as furlongs/fortnight.

heaping wodges.

songbird

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
....
> I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
> essence that I've never tried either.

they pretty much taste about how they smell...

a few bits of lavender in shortbread cookies is unique.
have not repeated them though. so not a massive favorite.
plain or chocolate chips are about as far as i'd go.

one spice a little of where too much can destroy a dish
is nutmeg. cardamom is another...

songbird

On 2024-03-09 10:28 a.m., songbird wrote:
> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> ...
>> I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
>> essence that I've never tried either.
>
> they pretty much taste about how they smell...

There is chewing gum sold in Canada called Thrills. It has an odd taste
that people seem to love or hate. It turns out to be flavoured with
rosewater. That is also used to flavour Turkish delight. That is
something I used to like when I was young. I bought a small amount of it
at the Bulk Barn a couple months ago. I had a couple pieces of it and
was left wondering what the hell I ever saw in that stuff.

> a few bits of lavender in shortbread cookies is unique.
> have not repeated them though. so not a massive favorite.
> plain or chocolate chips are about as far as i'd go.
>
> one spice a little of where too much can destroy a dish
> is nutmeg. cardamom is another...

Nutmeg is something I like in small doses. However, I use only freshly
grated nutmeg. It is infinitely better tasting than the ground stuff.
When recipes call for nutmeg they usually want about 1/4 to 1/2
teaspoon. I grate a fraction of that amount and it works out well.

>

On 3/9/2024 10:28 AM, songbird wrote:
> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> ...
>> I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
>> essence that I've never tried either.
>
> they pretty much taste about how they smell...
>
> a few bits of lavender in shortbread cookies is unique.
> have not repeated them though. so not a massive favorite.
> plain or chocolate chips are about as far as i'd go.
>
> one spice a little of where too much can destroy a dish
> is nutmeg. cardamom is another...
>
>
> songbird

A little too much of any spice can destroy a dish. However, I like
nutmeg. I use it sprinkled on my spinach/feta quiche. Just don't go
overboard.

Jill

On 2024-03-09, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> ...
>> I don't know that I've ever tasted lavender. I "think" there's a rose
>> essence that I've never tried either.
>
> they pretty much taste about how they smell...
>
> a few bits of lavender in shortbread cookies is unique.
> have not repeated them though. so not a massive favorite.
> plain or chocolate chips are about as far as i'd go.
>
> one spice a little of where too much can destroy a dish
> is nutmeg. cardamom is another...

I agree with you on nutmeg. I haven't found the tipping point
for cardamom yet.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 09 Mar 2024 10:58:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-03-08, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:26:56 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>> I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
>>>> bites on.
>>>> So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.
>>>
>>>Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand lavender.
>>> It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me cough.
>>
>> I don't mind the smell but I don't need to eat it, just like I
>> wouldn't like to eat air freshener.
>
>Yet it's a component of the classic herbs de Provence. Ah, well,
>to each their own.

A bit too much and they remind me of shampoo.

jmcquown wrote:

> A little too much of any spice can destroy a dish. However, I like
> nutmeg. I use it sprinkled on my spinach/feta quiche. Just don't go
> overboard.

> Jill

Many, many years ago I invited b/f at that time over for dinner.
One of the vegetable dishes was broccoli and the recipe I used
called for a smidge of nutmeg in the dish. It was immediately
apparent in the first taste and it was a tiny bit; neither of
us cared for that flavoring in the dish. That dish has never
been repeated.

I LOVE nutmeg in sweets/baked goods, but I thought it was awful
in what I'd call a savory dish.

On 2024-03-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> A little too much of any spice can destroy a dish. However, I like
>> nutmeg. I use it sprinkled on my spinach/feta quiche. Just don't go
>> overboard.
>
>> Jill
>
> Many, many years ago I invited b/f at that time over for dinner.
> One of the vegetable dishes was broccoli and the recipe I used
> called for a smidge of nutmeg in the dish. It was immediately
> apparent in the first taste and it was a tiny bit; neither of
> us cared for that flavoring in the dish. That dish has never
> been repeated.
>
> I LOVE nutmeg in sweets/baked goods, but I thought it was awful
> in what I'd call a savory dish.

If you can taste it, it's too much. I grate a few shavings of
nutmeg into bechamel (before it becomes something else--mornay or
scalloped potatoes, for example).

--
Cindy Hamilton

ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> A little too much of any spice can destroy a dish.  However, I like
>> nutmeg.  I use it sprinkled on my spinach/feta quiche.  Just don't go
>> overboard.
>
>> Jill
>
> Many, many years ago I invited b/f at that time over for dinner. One of the
> vegetable dishes was broccoli and the recipe I used
> called for a smidge of nutmeg in the dish.  It was immediately
> apparent in the first taste and it was a tiny bit; neither of
> us cared for that flavoring in the dish.  That dish has never
> been repeated.
>
> I LOVE nutmeg in sweets/baked goods, but I thought it was awful
> in what I'd call a savory dish.

Yes, a horrible flavor for any savory vittles.

Cinnamon too, but the asians use it a lot.

jmcquown wrote:
> I have some lavender water that I spritz on my pillow cases.  I don't
> care for strong scents but this is very light and I find it helps me
> sleep. :)
>
> Jill
>
>
Try this sometime -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJzp4ljVDi0

songbird wrote:

> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> ...
> > I prefer my speeds stated as furlongs/fortnight.
>
> heaping wodges.
>
>
> songbird

That abouts yonder yonder (double yonder means 'fur piece')

jmcquown wrote:

> On 3/8/2024 6:26 PM, Justisaur wrote:
> > On 3/7/2024 7:54 PM, Graham wrote:
> > > I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
> > > a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
> > > but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
> > > sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
> > > but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
> > > bites on.
> > > So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start
> > > again.
> >
> > Not that it matters one whit to anyone else, but I can't stand
> > lavender.  It smells like rotting roadkill to me and makes me
> > cough.
> >
> I don't want to eat lavender but I find the scent very soothing.
>
> Jill

Actually I used the flowers in po-purri but the leaves are very like
strong rosemary.

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:44:24 +0000, "cshenk"
<cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

>songbird wrote:
>
>> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> ...
>> > I prefer my speeds stated as furlongs/fortnight.
>>
>> heaping wodges.
>>
>>
>> songbird
>
>That abouts yonder yonder (double yonder means 'fur piece')

I'll leave this one to Cindy.

On 2024-03-08 2:28 p.m., Janet wrote:
> In article <S4LGN.407639$Ama9.154393@fx12.iad>,

>
> When I was in primary school, the inside back cover of
> every excercise book was printed with the imperial
> measures, like this
>
> https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/299982025154725677/
>
> we learned the ones for weight, length, area by heart and
> could chant them by rote, just like multiplication tables.
> Mental arithmetic featured questions like
>
> "Bob walked five furlongs to town, how many yards did he
> travel?His speed was 3 miles per hour, how long did it
> take? At the shop he bought six ounces of sugar. Sugar
> costs 1s/10d per pound, how much change did he get from
> half a crown."
>
>
> Janet UK
>
And we were still taught words like "byre".

On 2024-03-07 10:58 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

>
>> You never know.  Give them a taste.
>
> I agree, let them taste it and ask them to be brutally honest.  But if
> you see them running to the trash can to spit it out, no need to ask,
> "how is it?"
No! I've been eating it and it's not nearly up to par!

On 2024-03-08 4:31 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article <65ea9eb0$0$2187659
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...
>>
>> On 2024-03-07 9:30 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>> Graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
>>>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
>>>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
>>>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
>>>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
>>>> bites on.
>>>> So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.
>>>
>>> Well, that's a shame and that's a LOT of marmalade to go into the trash.
>>
>> I'll eat some of it but I have friends who raved about some I made
>> 2 years ago and several jars were intended for them but this batch is
>> certainly not gift-worthy.
>> "Oh, well" as Ned Kelly said as he was about to be hanged:-(
>
> sieve a few spoon fulls free of lavender, and serve it
> as a sauce on icecream or pancakes ?
>
> Janet
There's just too much!

On 2024-03-08 4:29 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article <65ea8bde$2$3158698
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, g.stereo@shaw.ca says...
>>
>> I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
>> but that was waaaaay too much.
>
> !!!!I reckon that was a typo for 5gm (about a
> teaspoonful).
>
>
> Between 5 and 10 would have been
>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
>> bites on.
>> So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.
>
> I might tie most of the lavender in muslin,( like I do
> for the pips of Seville oranges), then discard later. Just
> have a few buds visible in the jars. I buy muslin squares
> from Lakeland.
>
> Janet UK
>
>
That's a good idea! I had the pips in a muslin bag during the cooking.
BTW I use temperature to determine the setting point. Where you live,
close to sea level, the setting temperature for jams is about 105/106C.
Here, water boils at 96C so jam setting point is about 101/102C.
I've never had much luck with the wrinkle test on a cold plate.

On 2024-03-08 6:47 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-03-07 10:54 p.m., Graham wrote:
>> I made a batch of lemon and lavender marmalade today, following
>> a recipe to the letter. It specified 50grams of lavender flowers
>> but that was waaaaay too much. Between 5 and 10 would have been
>> sufficient. The flavour is OK, if a bit strong from the lavender
>> but the main problem is all the lavender buds than one constantly
>> bites on.
>> So it looks like I'll have to discard all 3.75 litres and start again.
>
>
> Ouch. That is a shame. That can be a problem with had aromatics to
> things. Sometimes the taste is too much. I have that problem when I use
> rosemary. I like a little but but it doesn't take much to overwhelm it.
> Then there is thyme, which I have come to accept that I just don't care
> for at all.
>
After multiple tastings, The flavour is just too strong - and I like
lavender!

On 2024-03-08 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-03-08 11:30 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 14:38:16 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:
>>
>
>>> Remember - here in the States even our currency is emblazoned with
>>> "In God We Trust"...!!!
>>>
>>> ;-D
>>
>> No, when I hear the so-called saintly sorts a la Jimmy Bakker, I know
>> if there really is anything after death, I would hate to join them. Be
>> far more fun in hell.
>
>
> One day I was channel surfing and stopped at a religious program when I
> spotted that slimey creep. He had recently been released from jail and
> he introduced some young black guy he met in the bowels of the prison.
> The guy had had a troubled life and had endured privation as a child and
> ended up in a life of crime. He ministered to the guy and helped him
> find Jesus and salvation. Then he explained how he had come to
> understand why God had put him through that ordeal. God had been
> instrumental in getting Jimmy into the depths of that prison to find
> this guy and help him find Jesus.  I almost puked at that.
>
One look at the heavily painted Tammy Faye was enough to make anyone puke.